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Dec 14, 2022 18:25:22   #
kemmer
 
son of witless wrote:
If you decline to answer, I understand.

Perhaps you can be more specific with a question?

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Dec 14, 2022 20:57:20   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
kemmer wrote:
I cannot believe it is God’s wish for me to live a solitary and lonely life, or to ruin my life and a woman’s by pretending to be someone I’m not. I’ve seen too much of that.


I hear you, and I understand. Being born gay is not a sin. Acting on it??? I do not have the answer. Nor do I begrudge you and your partner happiness.
I DO resent (not you personally) the L+ vocal crowd demanding that I accept the things they do as normal and natural when it isn't. And I deeply begrudge them trying to normalize it in the eyes of children. Are they trying to 'recruit' children? They say no, but it looks like it to me.
Kemmer, I wish you the best. Have a Merry Christmas, and enjoy life. Both of us are entering our own personal 'last days', or at least last decade or two, in this world. Soon enough we will face God and have our questions answered. I very much hope to meet you in front of the Throne of God. Be well.

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Dec 14, 2022 20:57:40   #
Ricktloml
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I should think that "Christians" who do not understand that God can be both are trying to make God into what THEY want or need or prefer rather than striving to be what their Creator and King instructs them to be.


God is the same yesterday/today/forever. He is the same all-knowing/all-seeing God of both the Old/New Testaments who creates/protects the righteous, and destroys the wicked according to His righteous Word/His Will.

A perfect example of a smorgasbord Christian. Rejecting the parts of God's word he doesn't like...why? because he decided he knows better, after all the world has set standards that must be followed...and if the world and it's requirements contradicts the Word of God, well you can reject/dismiss those inconvenient edicts from God Almighty/the Creator of the Universe in lieu of what you consider to be right.

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Dec 14, 2022 21:02:35   #
Drue-Marie
 
RandyBrian wrote:
The restaurant had every right to deny them service. Just a I have every right to support the group financially and any other way I can, and to do my best to dissuade any future clients from going to the Metzger’s Bar and Butchery in Richmond, Virginia. EVER!
So please remember the name: Metzger’s Bar and Butchery in Richmond, Virginia.


How many people do you think this post will reach? I'm going to guess... some people on OPP will not see it, so... not very many.

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Dec 14, 2022 21:06:21   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
bluefish wrote:
How many people do you think this post will reach? I'm going to guess... some people on OPP will not see it, so... not very many.


I am sure you are right. What of it? Do you have a point?

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Dec 14, 2022 21:12:25   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
bluefish wrote:
How many people do you think this post will reach? I'm going to guess... some people on OPP will not see it, so... not very many.


And by the way, have you been following this thread? If so, then you know the reason for the cancelled reservation WAS indeed discrimination. Metzgers admitted it in their statement. After ACCEPTING the reservations, they waited until an hour and a half before to cancel it because they do not like the groups supposed anti L+ and supposed anti women goals. Pure political and religious discrimination.
I don't know about Virginia, but in many states this is against the law. And even if it isn't, the group has an excellent case for breach of contract. at least on the face of it.

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Dec 14, 2022 21:29:27   #
Drue-Marie
 
woodguru wrote:
Bingo, that is apparently exactly what they want.

Keep religious views to yourself, they have nothing to do with anyone else



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Dec 14, 2022 22:57:15   #
Drue-Marie
 
RandyBrian wrote:
And by the way, have you been following this thread? If so, then you know the reason for the cancelled reservation WAS indeed discrimination. Metzgers admitted it in their statement. After ACCEPTING the reservations, they waited until an hour and a half before to cancel it because they do not like the groups supposed anti L+ and supposed anti women goals. Pure political and religious discrimination.
I don't know about Virginia, but in many states this is against the law. And even if it isn't, the group has an excellent case for breach of contract. at least on the face of it.
And by the way, have you been following this threa... (show quote)


Your message, and your audience are two different things. It's not about WHAT you said. It's about the point of posting here, on OPP. How many people are on OPP or lurking in the vicinity of OPP? That's my point.

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Dec 14, 2022 23:29:05   #
kemmer
 
Ricktloml wrote:
God is the same yesterday/today/forever. He is the same all-knowing/all-seeing God of both the Old/New Testaments who creates/protects the righteous, and destroys the wicked according to His righteous Word/His Will.

A perfect example of a smorgasbord Christian. Rejecting the parts of God's word he doesn't like...why? because he decided he knows better, after all the world has set standards that must be followed...and if the world and it's requirements contradicts the Word of God, well you can reject/dismiss those inconvenient edicts from God Almighty/the Creator of the Universe in lieu of what you consider to be right.
God is the same yesterday/today/forever. He is the... (show quote)

Thank you for your understanding. 😂

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Dec 14, 2022 23:36:35   #
kemmer
 
RandyBrian wrote:

I DO resent (not you personally) the L+ vocal crowd demanding that I accept the things they do as normal and natural when it isn't.

We’ve been accepting yours as normal for centuries. Now we have 2 normals. 👍🏼
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Are they trying to 'recruit' children? They say no, but it looks like it to me.

It’s impossible to “recruit” someone from one orientation to another.
Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous New Year.

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Dec 15, 2022 10:49:28   #
son of witless
 
kemmer wrote:
Perhaps you can be more specific with a question?




Since you rejected all Old Testament miracle events, I want to know if you separate out the miracles attributed to Jesus, from his teachings ? In other words to be consistent, you must reject that Jesus turned water into wine, walked on water, raised Lazarus from the dead. I left out the most important one.

Christianity is based solely on the Resurrection of Christ 3 days after his death. That he is the actual Son of God. If you do not believe that really happened you are not a Christian, and it sounds to me that you think Jesus was a really nice guy who wrote some interesting philosophy you believe is worth following, but raised from the dead, and sitting beside God up in Heaven, waiting to welcome us one day, come on.

Either Jesus is Divine or he is not Divine. If he is not Divine, then is he like the Buddha, a mortal who attained higher consciousness ? If that is all Jesus is to you, then why don't you switch to some other Faith ?

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Dec 15, 2022 12:07:10   #
kemmer
 
son of witless wrote:
Since you rejected all Old Testament miracle events,

And I asked exactly what miracles you were referring to.
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In other words to be consistent, you must reject that Jesus turned water into wine, walked on water, raised Lazarus from the dead.

I don’t understand how you can continue to leap from one dubious assumption to the next despite everything I have already said.
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it sounds to me that you think Jesus was a really nice guy who wrote some interesting philosophy you believe is worth following,

Jesus wrote nothing that we’re aware of.



but raised from the dead, and sitting beside God up in Heaven, waiting to welcome us one day, come on.
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If that is all Jesus is to you, then why don't you switch to some other Faith ?

It’s as though you haven’t read a thing I’ve written.

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Dec 15, 2022 14:14:56   #
son of witless
 
kemmer wrote:
It’s as though you haven’t read a thing I’ve written.


This was your chance to set the record straight and you punted. It's okay. You went further than any of your l*****t compadres ever go. It's very hard to deal with core conflicts.

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Dec 15, 2022 14:31:58   #
kemmer
 
son of witless wrote:
This was your chance to set the record straight

Which evidently you ignored.

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Dec 15, 2022 14:47:12   #
son of witless
 
kemmer wrote:
Which evidently you ignored.


Have a good day.

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