John 12:32 "I will draw ALL people unto me"
Nov 29, 2022 06:53:43 #
Even though the teaching of God’s all-inclusive love has been opposed and suppressed by more powerful churches teaching a God of eternal torment. It is as if despite man’s most strenuous efforts to stop it, the Holy Spirit keeps on reminding people that Jesus came to earth to bring Good News.
The main purpose of Jesus Christ coming to this world was to proclaim and reveal a God who loves all people with a parental love, who will never give up on any soul, and who has a plan for the reconciliation of all things.
When Jesus spoke of God’s judgment upon the wicked, he did so with words that implied a limited, corrective punishment. Specifically, he referred to divine judgment as aionios kolasis, meaning age-long chastisement.
Jesus explicitly prophesied that after his death on the cross and resurrection, he will “draw all people to myself.” (John 12:32).
Over time, alternative doctrines about the fate of sinners grew more popular, such as annihilationism and eternal conscious torment. These doctrines were often held by Christians who could not read the New Testament in the original Greek language in which it was written, and who interpreted the Bible through the lens of barbaric forms of paganism.
There are too many significant figures in the 18th and 19th century American Universalist movement to discuss them all. Some of the most influential or notable people include George de Benneville, Elhanan Winchester, Benjamin Rush, Thomas Potter, John Murray, Hosea Ballou, John Wesley Hanson, Hannah Whitall Smith, and Olympia Brown. Many famous Americans of this era believed in Universalism, including such household names as Abraham Lincoln, president of the United States; Clara Barton, founder of the Red Cross; and Florence Nightingale, pioneer of modern nursing.
Most people do not know that Lincoln wrote an essay in 1833 arguing for “predestinated universal salvation in criticism of the orthodox doctrine of endless punishment.”
The main purpose of Jesus Christ coming to this world was to proclaim and reveal a God who loves all people with a parental love, who will never give up on any soul, and who has a plan for the reconciliation of all things.
When Jesus spoke of God’s judgment upon the wicked, he did so with words that implied a limited, corrective punishment. Specifically, he referred to divine judgment as aionios kolasis, meaning age-long chastisement.
Jesus explicitly prophesied that after his death on the cross and resurrection, he will “draw all people to myself.” (John 12:32).
Over time, alternative doctrines about the fate of sinners grew more popular, such as annihilationism and eternal conscious torment. These doctrines were often held by Christians who could not read the New Testament in the original Greek language in which it was written, and who interpreted the Bible through the lens of barbaric forms of paganism.
There are too many significant figures in the 18th and 19th century American Universalist movement to discuss them all. Some of the most influential or notable people include George de Benneville, Elhanan Winchester, Benjamin Rush, Thomas Potter, John Murray, Hosea Ballou, John Wesley Hanson, Hannah Whitall Smith, and Olympia Brown. Many famous Americans of this era believed in Universalism, including such household names as Abraham Lincoln, president of the United States; Clara Barton, founder of the Red Cross; and Florence Nightingale, pioneer of modern nursing.
Most people do not know that Lincoln wrote an essay in 1833 arguing for “predestinated universal salvation in criticism of the orthodox doctrine of endless punishment.”
Nov 30, 2022 02:31:58 #
Alan,
The gospel is the "good news." No one is forgetting that.
The literal meaning of The English noun "gospel" comes from the Anglo-Saxon term godspell, meaning "glad tidings"/"Good News."
When the Apostle John wrote his Gospel of John, the fourth of the four canonical gospels, he wrote it without marking it into divisions of chapters and verses. The Bible was divided into present-day chapters by Stephen Langton about 1200 CE. Verses were then separated and numbered by Robert Stephanus in 1557 CE.
This made it impossible for readers of the Scriptures during those earlier centuries to arbitrarily pluck a single verse from within a chapter, and write a dissertation zeroing in on it, while ignoring that which John wrote preceding it, as you just did with John 12:32.
Earlier in John’s gospel, Jesus had said, “Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes may have eternal life in Him” (John 3:14–15).
Had you included this qualifier in your post, it would have been impossible for you to conclude, with any legitimacy, that Jesus was advocating "Universalism," - the Salvation of all men.
Unless or until you study the whole council of God, you will continue to reach faulty conclusions. You see God is God, and you are not. He is not required to conform Himself to the standards of supposed "inclusivity" you are attempting to impose upon Him.
John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life."
God is love, He is also righteousness, and justice. He sent His beloved Son to earth to die in anguish, and rise to new life in His glorified resurrected body that we might believe and spiritually receive new life.
"I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." (Galatians 2:20)
Those who reject Him cannot and will not receive His Salvation against their will.
"Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said: “Who is this that questions My wisdom by words without knowledge?" (Job 38:2)
The gospel is the "good news." No one is forgetting that.
The literal meaning of The English noun "gospel" comes from the Anglo-Saxon term godspell, meaning "glad tidings"/"Good News."
When the Apostle John wrote his Gospel of John, the fourth of the four canonical gospels, he wrote it without marking it into divisions of chapters and verses. The Bible was divided into present-day chapters by Stephen Langton about 1200 CE. Verses were then separated and numbered by Robert Stephanus in 1557 CE.
This made it impossible for readers of the Scriptures during those earlier centuries to arbitrarily pluck a single verse from within a chapter, and write a dissertation zeroing in on it, while ignoring that which John wrote preceding it, as you just did with John 12:32.
Earlier in John’s gospel, Jesus had said, “Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes may have eternal life in Him” (John 3:14–15).
Had you included this qualifier in your post, it would have been impossible for you to conclude, with any legitimacy, that Jesus was advocating "Universalism," - the Salvation of all men.
Unless or until you study the whole council of God, you will continue to reach faulty conclusions. You see God is God, and you are not. He is not required to conform Himself to the standards of supposed "inclusivity" you are attempting to impose upon Him.
John 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life."
God is love, He is also righteousness, and justice. He sent His beloved Son to earth to die in anguish, and rise to new life in His glorified resurrected body that we might believe and spiritually receive new life.
"I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me." (Galatians 2:20)
Those who reject Him cannot and will not receive His Salvation against their will.
"Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind and said: “Who is this that questions My wisdom by words without knowledge?" (Job 38:2)
Alan Finch wrote:
Even though the teaching of God’s all-inclusive lo... (show quote)
Jan 10, 2023 14:23:03 #
Zemirah wrote:
Alan, br br The gospel is the "good news.&q... (show quote)
Very concise and thorough gutting of false teaching!
Thank you.
Jan 13, 2023 06:44:12 #
Marty 2020 wrote:
Very concise and thorough gutting of false teaching!
Thank you.
Thank you.
Jude 3
Jan 13, 2023 09:55:46 #
Zemirah wrote:
Jude 3
I did a little devotion about Jude during the mens breakfast at church a month ago.
Very important doctrine in Jude.
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