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Nov 26, 2022 00:42:08   #
JuristBooks Loc: North Carolina
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
Hawaii was so pristine before they were forced to become a state. Now there's hotels from one end to the other. That was probably the reason why the g*******ts pushed to make Hawaii a state.


And they probably slowly poisoned the last Queen to get her out of the way. She was dynamic. Died too young.

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Nov 26, 2022 01:12:16   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
JuristBooks wrote:
And they probably slowly poisoned the last Queen to get her out of the way. She was dynamic. Died too young.



https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/-h-our-history-lesson-liliuokalani-hawaii-s-last-queen.htm

excerpts:

As a princess, Liliuokalani met with foreign dignitaries and worked for charitable organizations. Her greatest passion appears to have been the Liliuokalani Educational Society, which provided schooling for impoverished Hawaiian girls.4 During King Kalākaua’s reign, a small but powerful group of European and American landowners began to plot against the Hawaiian monarchy. They wanted more political power in order to change Hawaiian laws to help their businesses. In 1887, a group of white foreigners known as the Hawaiian League attempted a c**p (a violent o*******w of the government). Liliuokalani was shocked by the Hawaiian League’s “ingratitude” toward the King.5

“This r*******n against constituted authority had been brought about by the very persons for whose prosperity His Majesty Kalakaua had made such exertions, and by those to whom he had shown the greatest favors,” she wrote.6

The Hawaiian League forced King Kalākaua to sign a new constitution that gave foreign landowners more power in Hawaii. This document was known as the “Bayonet Constitution.”

King Kalākaua died in 1891 and Liliuokalani became Queen. As Queen Liliuokalani, she was determined to restore power to the weakened Hawaiian monarchy.7 Indigenous Hawaiians overwhelmingly supported her. Many had v**ed in e******ns under the monarchy and wanted to protect those democratic processes from a small group of white foreigners. Yet as import rates on sugar from Hawaii increased, politicians in the United States began to more seriously consider o*******wing the Hawaiian government.8 If they could make the islands part of the United States, it would be easier for American companies to import Hawaiian goods.

In 1893, a group of foreign landowners conspired with the United States Marines to stage another c**p against the Hawaiian monarchy. The Hawaiian League removed all of the queen’s powers and installed a government made up of w***e A******ns. Liliuokalani continued to advocate for the Indigenous Hawaiian government, arguing that she was the legitimate leader of Hawaii. Her mental health suffered under the “terrible strain” of an unknown future.9

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Many Indigenous Hawaiians today still protest the United States’ colonization of their islands. Liliuokalani spent the rest of her life advocating for Hawaiian sovereignty, even suing the United States. When she died in 1917 at the age of 79, she was buried as Hawaiian royalty.

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Nov 26, 2022 02:36:00   #
JuristBooks Loc: North Carolina
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/-h-our-history-lesson-liliuokalani-hawaii-s-last-queen.htm

excerpts:

As a princess, Liliuokalani met with foreign dignitaries and worked for charitable organizations. Her greatest passion appears to have been the Liliuokalani Educational Society, which provided schooling for impoverished Hawaiian girls.4 During King Kalākaua’s reign, a small but powerful group of European and American landowners began to plot against the Hawaiian monarchy. They wanted more political power in order to change Hawaiian laws to help their businesses. In 1887, a group of white foreigners known as the Hawaiian League attempted a c**p (a violent o*******w of the government). Liliuokalani was shocked by the Hawaiian League’s “ingratitude” toward the King.5

“This r*******n against constituted authority had been brought about by the very persons for whose prosperity His Majesty Kalakaua had made such exertions, and by those to whom he had shown the greatest favors,” she wrote.6

The Hawaiian League forced King Kalākaua to sign a new constitution that gave foreign landowners more power in Hawaii. This document was known as the “Bayonet Constitution.”

King Kalākaua died in 1891 and Liliuokalani became Queen. As Queen Liliuokalani, she was determined to restore power to the weakened Hawaiian monarchy.7 Indigenous Hawaiians overwhelmingly supported her. Many had v**ed in e******ns under the monarchy and wanted to protect those democratic processes from a small group of white foreigners. Yet as import rates on sugar from Hawaii increased, politicians in the United States began to more seriously consider o*******wing the Hawaiian government.8 If they could make the islands part of the United States, it would be easier for American companies to import Hawaiian goods.

In 1893, a group of foreign landowners conspired with the United States Marines to stage another c**p against the Hawaiian monarchy. The Hawaiian League removed all of the queen’s powers and installed a government made up of w***e A******ns. Liliuokalani continued to advocate for the Indigenous Hawaiian government, arguing that she was the legitimate leader of Hawaii. Her mental health suffered under the “terrible strain” of an unknown future.9

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Many Indigenous Hawaiians today still protest the United States’ colonization of their islands. Liliuokalani spent the rest of her life advocating for Hawaiian sovereignty, even suing the United States. When she died in 1917 at the age of 79, she was buried as Hawaiian royalty.
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/-h-our-history-le... (show quote)


Now I remember why I thought she died young. All I recall are photos of her when she was a young woman/princess.

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Nov 26, 2022 23:58:52   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
JuristBooks wrote:
Now I remember why I thought she died young. All I recall are photos of her when she was a young woman/princess.


Now we know the rest of the story. 👍

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Nov 27, 2022 07:54:48   #
Radiance3
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
https://civildeadline.com/27-counties-in-blue-state-pass-referendums-to-explore-secession-from-state/

There is no denying the disaster that is Cook County. The majority of Illinois' crime is committed in the Democrat-run county, which also frequently v**es to increase taxes on the rest of the state.

As a result, throughout each e******n cycle, the remainder of Illinois is held hostage. Enough is enough! Currently, a number of Illinois counties are attempting to secede and create their own state.

V**ers in 27 counties in the state approved non-binding referendums on e******n day 2022 requesting elected officials to take part in discussions aimed towards severing ties with the State of Illinois.

New Illinois is a nonprofit organization that educates Illinois citizens about their right to pursue the creation of new state from the State of Illinois. They are seeking a state split, following the process provided in the U.S. Constitution (Article IV, Sec. 3). This is the same way that West Virginia split from Virginia. This divide is not between Democrats and Republicans—it is urban vs. rural, small town and suburban.

The solution to this problem is a state split. By splitting Illinois into two states, urban and rural areas can govern themselves according to their own needs and values. This would free up rural communities from being forced to subsidize Chicago's problems, and it would allow Chicago to enact its own policies without having to worry about how they will impact the rest of the state. A state split is the only way to solve this problem once and for all. I actually think that several states need to do this.

It's time for a change in Illinois. We cannot continue to be held hostage by Cook County any longer. A state split is the only solution that will allow us to govern ourselves according to our own needs and values.

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They're doing something similar in Oregon. I would like to it happen to California & Washington State, too.
https://civildeadline.com/27-counties-in-blue-stat... (show quote)

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If this could only be done. It would be a huge solution to C*******t-Democrats' fraud and corruption . Conservatives could have more of E*******l College v**es.

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Nov 27, 2022 15:50:31   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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If this could only be done. It would be a huge solution to C*******t-Democrats' fraud and corruption . Conservatives could have more of E*******l College v**es.


But there's a right way and a wrong way to secede. The right way is constitutional, and the wrong way is not.

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Nov 27, 2022 21:45:16   #
Radiance3
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
But there's a right way and a wrong way to secede. The right way is constitutional, and the wrong way is not.


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Let us to the right way. Thru Congress .

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Nov 27, 2022 22:44:45   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Let us to the right way. Thru Congress .


Congress won't allow it.

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Nov 28, 2022 15:46:34   #
Radiance3
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
Congress won't allow it.


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The law starts from Congress . So, if GOP could only have 2/3 of Congress and 60 of the Senate. GOP could do all. Even when Biden vetoes.

Without a******n, GOP could have higher v**es. Both Senate and House.

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Nov 28, 2022 15:47:15   #
Radiance3
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
But there's a right way and a wrong way to secede. The right way is constitutional, and the wrong way is not.


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What is the wrong way?

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