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How E******n Integrity has Been Destroyed in Arizona – And Elsewhere
Nov 11, 2022 16:18:21   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Many Arizonans have wondered and scratched their heads as to why a fundamentally “red” state ends up with “blue” politicians. Such was the case during the 2020 e******n when Donald Trump was overwhelmingly popular and yet lost the state. Such is the case right now with the Governor’s race between Kari Lake and Katie Hobbs. Now I know the answer.

Republicans seek v**ers, Democrats seek b****ts.

This is so simple and obvious that it has escaped everyone’s attention, including mine. According to this article, “when b****ts are more important than v**es – the e******n will always favor the former.”

Republican candidate Kari Lake has stumped throughout Arizona and won the hearts of our citizens. Her Democrat opponent, Katie Hobbs, has hidden herself from public exposure, refusing to even be seen with Lake on a stage or anywhere else. As a candidate, in fact, Hobbs could rightly be described as reclusive.

Here is the heart of matter: Lake is seeking v**ers while Hobbs is seeking b****ts. The same could be said for the Senate race between Republican Blake Masters and Democrat Mark Kelly. Further, this is true across all major races in Arizona. Republicans seek v**ers while Democrats seek b****ts.

What happened in Arizona? On e******n day, b****ts were collected as many people v**ed in person. Mailed in and dropped off b****ts were also collected. Next, the whole collection of b****ts was brought to a central location (in each county). In Maricopa County, Sheriff’s deputies barricaded the counting facility and posted armed sentinels on the roof. The counting process was going to take a long time, they said. Days later, they are still not finished.

Kari Lake’s work to secure v**es was done when the polling centers closed on Tuesday. Conversely, Katie Hobbs work was just beginning. Behind closed doors, it will continue until the b****ts can be arranged, manipulated and “adjusted”, until she can be declared the winner. It will not be a case of who got the most v**es, but who got the most b****ts. Can you see the difference?

In the 2020 e******n cycle, 2.3 million mail-in b****ts were received in Arizona, compared to 4.28 million registered v**ers. Not all of those registered cast a b****t, early or otherwise. Only a relatively small minority v**ed in person while all the rest were loose b****ts that mostly came back through the mail or drop-off boxes.

According to one astute political analyst:

The system of b****t distribution and collection is far more susceptible to control than the traditional system of v**es cast at precincts.

A v**e cannot be cast by a person who is no longer alive, or no longer lives in the area. However, a b****t can be sent, completed and returned regardless of the status of the initially attributed and/or registered individual.

While b****ts and v**es originate in two totally different processes, the end result of both “b****ts” and “v**es,” weighing on the presented e******n outcome, is identical.

While initially the b****t form of e******n control was tested in Deep Blue states, through the process of mail-in returns under the guise and justification of “expanding democracy,” a useful tool for those who are vested in the distinction, I think we are now starting to see what happens on a national level when the process is expanded.

The controversial 2020 e******n showed the result of making ‘b****ts’ the strategy for e*******l success. Under the justification of C****-** mitigation, mail-in b****ts took center stage. B****t harvesting by Democrat operations was one term for the outcome.

Democrat party officials and political activist groups knew how to exploit the opportunities within the new system of b****t distribution and collection, and when you combine that with a massive legal pressure campaign to accept any and all forms of b****ts, well, you can see how they are dependent.

Now that b****t collection has been shown to be a much more effective way to maintain political power, Democrats in a general sense are less focused on winning v**es and more focused on gathering b****ts.

When ‘b****t organization’ becomes more important than ‘v**e winning,’ you modify your e*******l campaign approaches accordingly. It might sound simplistic, but inside the distinct difference between b****ts and v**es you will find why refusing debates is a successful strategy.


There is only one possible solution to this perversion of the v****g system. That is, restoring in-person v****g on e******n day. Let the candidates compete for v**es, not b****ts.

Nobody knows yet if Kari Lake will be the next Governor of Arizona, but we do know that she was and still is the most popular candidate and by a wide margin. Unfortunately, in the end the b****t may outweigh the v**e.

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Nov 11, 2022 16:32:21   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Parky60 wrote:
Many Arizonans have wondered and scratched their heads as to why a fundamentally “red” state ends up with “blue” politicians. Such was the case during the 2020 e******n when Donald Trump was overwhelmingly popular and yet lost the state. Such is the case right now with the Governor’s race between Kari Lake and Katie Hobbs. Now I know the answer.

Republicans seek v**ers, Democrats seek b****ts.

This is so simple and obvious that it has escaped everyone’s attention, including mine. According to this article, “when b****ts are more important than v**es – the e******n will always favor the former.”

Republican candidate Kari Lake has stumped throughout Arizona and won the hearts of our citizens. Her Democrat opponent, Katie Hobbs, has hidden herself from public exposure, refusing to even be seen with Lake on a stage or anywhere else. As a candidate, in fact, Hobbs could rightly be described as reclusive.

Here is the heart of matter: Lake is seeking v**ers while Hobbs is seeking b****ts. The same could be said for the Senate race between Republican Blake Masters and Democrat Mark Kelly. Further, this is true across all major races in Arizona. Republicans seek v**ers while Democrats seek b****ts.

What happened in Arizona? On e******n day, b****ts were collected as many people v**ed in person. Mailed in and dropped off b****ts were also collected. Next, the whole collection of b****ts was brought to a central location (in each county). In Maricopa County, Sheriff’s deputies barricaded the counting facility and posted armed sentinels on the roof. The counting process was going to take a long time, they said. Days later, they are still not finished.

Kari Lake’s work to secure v**es was done when the polling centers closed on Tuesday. Conversely, Katie Hobbs work was just beginning. Behind closed doors, it will continue until the b****ts can be arranged, manipulated and “adjusted”, until she can be declared the winner. It will not be a case of who got the most v**es, but who got the most b****ts. Can you see the difference?

In the 2020 e******n cycle, 2.3 million mail-in b****ts were received in Arizona, compared to 4.28 million registered v**ers. Not all of those registered cast a b****t, early or otherwise. Only a relatively small minority v**ed in person while all the rest were loose b****ts that mostly came back through the mail or drop-off boxes.

According to one astute political analyst:

The system of b****t distribution and collection is far more susceptible to control than the traditional system of v**es cast at precincts.

A v**e cannot be cast by a person who is no longer alive, or no longer lives in the area. However, a b****t can be sent, completed and returned regardless of the status of the initially attributed and/or registered individual.

While b****ts and v**es originate in two totally different processes, the end result of both “b****ts” and “v**es,” weighing on the presented e******n outcome, is identical.

While initially the b****t form of e******n control was tested in Deep Blue states, through the process of mail-in returns under the guise and justification of “expanding democracy,” a useful tool for those who are vested in the distinction, I think we are now starting to see what happens on a national level when the process is expanded.

The controversial 2020 e******n showed the result of making ‘b****ts’ the strategy for e*******l success. Under the justification of C****-** mitigation, mail-in b****ts took center stage. B****t harvesting by Democrat operations was one term for the outcome.

Democrat party officials and political activist groups knew how to exploit the opportunities within the new system of b****t distribution and collection, and when you combine that with a massive legal pressure campaign to accept any and all forms of b****ts, well, you can see how they are dependent.

Now that b****t collection has been shown to be a much more effective way to maintain political power, Democrats in a general sense are less focused on winning v**es and more focused on gathering b****ts.

When ‘b****t organization’ becomes more important than ‘v**e winning,’ you modify your e*******l campaign approaches accordingly. It might sound simplistic, but inside the distinct difference between b****ts and v**es you will find why refusing debates is a successful strategy.


There is only one possible solution to this perversion of the v****g system. That is, restoring in-person v****g on e******n day. Let the candidates compete for v**es, not b****ts.

Nobody knows yet if Kari Lake will be the next Governor of Arizona, but we do know that she was and still is the most popular candidate and by a wide margin. Unfortunately, in the end the b****t may outweigh the v**e.
Many Arizonans have wondered and scratched their h... (show quote)


Unfortunately, when we lose confidence in f**r e******ns it seems to me we only have two options left, r*******n or submission.

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Nov 11, 2022 17:05:06   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
Parky60 wrote:
Many Arizonans have wondered and scratched their heads as to why a fundamentally “red” state ends up with “blue” politicians. Such was the case during the 2020 e******n when Donald Trump was overwhelmingly popular and yet lost the state. Such is the case right now with the Governor’s race between Kari Lake and Katie Hobbs. Now I know the answer.

Republicans seek v**ers, Democrats seek b****ts.

This is so simple and obvious that it has escaped everyone’s attention, including mine. According to this article, “when b****ts are more important than v**es – the e******n will always favor the former.”

Republican candidate Kari Lake has stumped throughout Arizona and won the hearts of our citizens. Her Democrat opponent, Katie Hobbs, has hidden herself from public exposure, refusing to even be seen with Lake on a stage or anywhere else. As a candidate, in fact, Hobbs could rightly be described as reclusive.

Here is the heart of matter: Lake is seeking v**ers while Hobbs is seeking b****ts. The same could be said for the Senate race between Republican Blake Masters and Democrat Mark Kelly. Further, this is true across all major races in Arizona. Republicans seek v**ers while Democrats seek b****ts.

What happened in Arizona? On e******n day, b****ts were collected as many people v**ed in person. Mailed in and dropped off b****ts were also collected. Next, the whole collection of b****ts was brought to a central location (in each county). In Maricopa County, Sheriff’s deputies barricaded the counting facility and posted armed sentinels on the roof. The counting process was going to take a long time, they said. Days later, they are still not finished.

Kari Lake’s work to secure v**es was done when the polling centers closed on Tuesday. Conversely, Katie Hobbs work was just beginning. Behind closed doors, it will continue until the b****ts can be arranged, manipulated and “adjusted”, until she can be declared the winner. It will not be a case of who got the most v**es, but who got the most b****ts. Can you see the difference?

In the 2020 e******n cycle, 2.3 million mail-in b****ts were received in Arizona, compared to 4.28 million registered v**ers. Not all of those registered cast a b****t, early or otherwise. Only a relatively small minority v**ed in person while all the rest were loose b****ts that mostly came back through the mail or drop-off boxes.

According to one astute political analyst:

The system of b****t distribution and collection is far more susceptible to control than the traditional system of v**es cast at precincts.

A v**e cannot be cast by a person who is no longer alive, or no longer lives in the area. However, a b****t can be sent, completed and returned regardless of the status of the initially attributed and/or registered individual.

While b****ts and v**es originate in two totally different processes, the end result of both “b****ts” and “v**es,” weighing on the presented e******n outcome, is identical.

While initially the b****t form of e******n control was tested in Deep Blue states, through the process of mail-in returns under the guise and justification of “expanding democracy,” a useful tool for those who are vested in the distinction, I think we are now starting to see what happens on a national level when the process is expanded.

The controversial 2020 e******n showed the result of making ‘b****ts’ the strategy for e*******l success. Under the justification of C****-** mitigation, mail-in b****ts took center stage. B****t harvesting by Democrat operations was one term for the outcome.

Democrat party officials and political activist groups knew how to exploit the opportunities within the new system of b****t distribution and collection, and when you combine that with a massive legal pressure campaign to accept any and all forms of b****ts, well, you can see how they are dependent.

Now that b****t collection has been shown to be a much more effective way to maintain political power, Democrats in a general sense are less focused on winning v**es and more focused on gathering b****ts.

When ‘b****t organization’ becomes more important than ‘v**e winning,’ you modify your e*******l campaign approaches accordingly. It might sound simplistic, but inside the distinct difference between b****ts and v**es you will find why refusing debates is a successful strategy.


There is only one possible solution to this perversion of the v****g system. That is, restoring in-person v****g on e******n day. Let the candidates compete for v**es, not b****ts.

Nobody knows yet if Kari Lake will be the next Governor of Arizona, but we do know that she was and still is the most popular candidate and by a wide margin. Unfortunately, in the end the b****t may outweigh the v**e.
Many Arizonans have wondered and scratched their h... (show quote)


C***ting in any way possible, plausible deniability and shoe-staring republicans without the backbone to stand up is generating the desired result.

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Nov 11, 2022 18:38:02   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
padremike wrote:
Unfortunately, when we lose confidence in f**r e******ns it seems to me we only have two options left, r*******n or submission.


When we refuse to understand
what “f**r e******ns” represents we lose track of reality .
No one has labeled any past e******ns as unfair or illegal.
Except the trumpstars. Brought on by trumpys big lie itself.
There was nothing wrong with these e******ns . The people with the most v**es won. As is always the case since time began. Whoever gets the most white marbles in the jar wins. Period. There’s nothing to argue.
Why is this so difficult for trumpys to understand. This inane fighting against the reality of the v**es is tiresome.
The most white marbles wins.
The pawing , fawning and pleading offered by the losers to please change the v**e so they can win is plain sickening.
Children who don’t understand the finality of the v**e shouldn’t be allowed to v**e.
Papers should be signed by all v**ers stating they will accept the final v**e Tally’s.
Objections may offered to a panel to investigate.
Anything else shall be deemed unlawful.

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Nov 11, 2022 19:08:37   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Milosia2 wrote:
When we refuse to understand
what “f**r e******ns” represents we lose track of reality .
No one has labeled any past e******ns as unfair or illegal.
Except the trumpstars. Brought on by trumpys big lie itself.
There was nothing wrong with these e******ns . The people with the most v**es won. As is always the case since time began. Whoever gets the most white marbles in the jar wins. Period. There’s nothing to argue.
Why is this so difficult for trumpys to understand. This inane fighting against the reality of the v**es is tiresome.
The most white marbles wins.
The pawing , fawning and pleading offered by the losers to please change the v**e so they can win is plain sickening.
Children who don’t understand the finality of the v**e shouldn’t be allowed to v**e.
Papers should be signed by all v**ers stating they will accept the final v**e Tally’s.
Objections may offered to a panel to investigate.
Anything else shall be deemed unlawful.
When we refuse to understand br what “f**r e*****... (show quote)


Heads up. A dumbazz like you does not have the common sense to make any objective assessment of a f**r e******n especially when the results are weighted in you favor. The same delaying tactics that affected previous e******ns results have amazingly risen again. Furthermore, Democrats (Marxist) are the epitome of the type of evil that destroys nations and there is nothing in the arsenals of deceit that they won't employ to gain their objectives. Exit polls show that 75% of the people that v**ed said America was going in the wrong direction. Something is very wrong here.

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Nov 12, 2022 04:22:13   #
Ricktloml
 
WinkyTink wrote:
C***ting in any way possible, plausible deniability and shoe-staring republicans without the backbone to stand up is generating the desired result.




Amen. I am so tired of the spineless/self-serving response from the Republican Party to fraud/c***ting by the Democrat/C*******t Party.

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Nov 12, 2022 04:24:18   #
Ricktloml
 
padremike wrote:
Unfortunately, when we lose confidence in f**r e******ns it seems to me we only have two options left, r*******n or submission.




What's appalling is the number of useful i***ts in America who would willingly choose submission...as long as they are fed lies/empty promises

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Nov 12, 2022 19:55:30   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Milosia2 wrote:
When we refuse to understand
what “f**r e******ns” represents we lose track of reality .
No one has labeled any past e******ns as unfair or illegal.
Except the trumpstars. Brought on by trumpys big lie itself.
There was nothing wrong with these e******ns . The people with the most v**es won. As is always the case since time began. Whoever gets the most white marbles in the jar wins. Period. There’s nothing to argue.
Why is this so difficult for trumpys to understand. This inane fighting against the reality of the v**es is tiresome.
The most white marbles wins.
The pawing , fawning and pleading offered by the losers to please change the v**e so they can win is plain sickening.
Children who don’t understand the finality of the v**e shouldn’t be allowed to v**e.
Papers should be signed by all v**ers stating they will accept the final v**e Tally’s.
Objections may offered to a panel to investigate.
Anything else shall be deemed unlawful.
When we refuse to understand br what “f**r e*****... (show quote)


Àll we are asking for is a f**r e******n

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Nov 12, 2022 20:11:30   #
maryjane
 
"No one has labeled any past e******ns as unfair or illegal...." In the past, several times e******ns were labeled exactly that by the DEMOCRATS including the Trump/Clinton e******n. In fact, ", stolen, illegal" was al, we heard from the Democrat crowd after Clinton lost. In Georgia, the loser in the 2020 governor's race, Abrams, called that e******n illegal/stolen and continued that story right up until she lost the e******n a second time this month. I am so tired of democrats condemning Republicans for the very same things they themselves do often. I am beginning to wonder just how few American v**ers today have any commonsense OR critical thinking ability. Seems not to be very many, but the numbers easily brainwashed/manipulated appear to be huge.

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Nov 13, 2022 08:19:29   #
Weswill
 
Milosia2 wrote:
When we refuse to understand
what “f**r e******ns” represents we lose track of reality .
No one has labeled any past e******ns as unfair or illegal.
Except the trumpstars. Brought on by trumpys big lie itself.
There was nothing wrong with these e******ns . The people with the most v**es won. As is always the case since time began. Whoever gets the most white marbles in the jar wins. Period. There’s nothing to argue.
Why is this so difficult for trumpys to understand. This inane fighting against the reality of the v**es is tiresome.
The most white marbles wins.
The pawing , fawning and pleading offered by the losers to please change the v**e so they can win is plain sickening.
Children who don’t understand the finality of the v**e shouldn’t be allowed to v**e.
Papers should be signed by all v**ers stating they will accept the final v**e Tally’s.
Objections may offered to a panel to investigate.
Anything else shall be deemed unlawful.
When we refuse to understand br what “f**r e*****... (show quote)


You put fair e******n in quotation marks. You must think f**r e******ns are just made up or that there is no such thing as a f**r e******n.
No one has labeled any past e******ns as unfair or illegal. Really?? You really must.have your head in the sand. What about Bush-Gorein Florida about Chad's and that e******n was challenged. And of course Hillary declaring Trump an ill********e p*******t and one more , Stacy Abrams in Georgia said she won the e******n. Please get your head out of the sand long enough to at least recognize this sort of stuff happens on both sides of the isle. And neither party has a monopoly on this denying e******n results.
Trumpys big lie. Very good talking point for democrats. All you have to do is look at all the states that changed or.made up e******n law unconstitutionally, therefore illegal. These actions by some states if it were allowed to litigated , would have been enough to overturn the 2020 e******n.
So please stop advocating that there was nothing wrong with the 2020 e******n., when we all can see that there was something wrong.
You talk about your white marbles. But what if one jar started out with 100 marbles and the other started with no marbles. At the wnd of the day you are correct that the jar with the most marbles win. But how did thos
e marbles get into the jar that won.??
I can agree that there is too much bickering on just about everything.
And so now you are wanting to rewrite our constitution to do away with any type of questioning of all e******ns. There is a system in place through our constitution that shows us the steps to object to an e******n result. And that was what Trump was doing. Using the constitution to challenge an e******n. Most democrats keep saying that Trump was destroying the constitution when in actuality, Trump was.doing what the constitution said he could do. It is all a bunch of talking points that accuse Trump of things that can't be proved. Plus just an enormous amount of h**e, literal h**e for Trump and any one who tries to defend or get the whole picture. It is sad for sure.

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Nov 13, 2022 08:38:43   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Parky60 wrote:
Many Arizonans have wondered and scratched their heads as to why a fundamentally “red” state ends up with “blue” politicians. Such was the case during the 2020 e******n when Donald Trump was overwhelmingly popular and yet lost the state. Such is the case right now with the Governor’s race between Kari Lake and Katie Hobbs. Now I know the answer.

Republicans seek v**ers, Democrats seek b****ts.

This is so simple and obvious that it has escaped everyone’s attention, including mine. According to this article, “when b****ts are more important than v**es – the e******n will always favor the former.”

Republican candidate Kari Lake has stumped throughout Arizona and won the hearts of our citizens. Her Democrat opponent, Katie Hobbs, has hidden herself from public exposure, refusing to even be seen with Lake on a stage or anywhere else. As a candidate, in fact, Hobbs could rightly be described as reclusive.

Here is the heart of matter: Lake is seeking v**ers while Hobbs is seeking b****ts. The same could be said for the Senate race between Republican Blake Masters and Democrat Mark Kelly. Further, this is true across all major races in Arizona. Republicans seek v**ers while Democrats seek b****ts.

What happened in Arizona? On e******n day, b****ts were collected as many people v**ed in person. Mailed in and dropped off b****ts were also collected. Next, the whole collection of b****ts was brought to a central location (in each county). In Maricopa County, Sheriff’s deputies barricaded the counting facility and posted armed sentinels on the roof. The counting process was going to take a long time, they said. Days later, they are still not finished.

Kari Lake’s work to secure v**es was done when the polling centers closed on Tuesday. Conversely, Katie Hobbs work was just beginning. Behind closed doors, it will continue until the b****ts can be arranged, manipulated and “adjusted”, until she can be declared the winner. It will not be a case of who got the most v**es, but who got the most b****ts. Can you see the difference?

In the 2020 e******n cycle, 2.3 million mail-in b****ts were received in Arizona, compared to 4.28 million registered v**ers. Not all of those registered cast a b****t, early or otherwise. Only a relatively small minority v**ed in person while all the rest were loose b****ts that mostly came back through the mail or drop-off boxes.

According to one astute political analyst:

The system of b****t distribution and collection is far more susceptible to control than the traditional system of v**es cast at precincts.

A v**e cannot be cast by a person who is no longer alive, or no longer lives in the area. However, a b****t can be sent, completed and returned regardless of the status of the initially attributed and/or registered individual.

While b****ts and v**es originate in two totally different processes, the end result of both “b****ts” and “v**es,” weighing on the presented e******n outcome, is identical.

While initially the b****t form of e******n control was tested in Deep Blue states, through the process of mail-in returns under the guise and justification of “expanding democracy,” a useful tool for those who are vested in the distinction, I think we are now starting to see what happens on a national level when the process is expanded.

The controversial 2020 e******n showed the result of making ‘b****ts’ the strategy for e*******l success. Under the justification of C****-** mitigation, mail-in b****ts took center stage. B****t harvesting by Democrat operations was one term for the outcome.

Democrat party officials and political activist groups knew how to exploit the opportunities within the new system of b****t distribution and collection, and when you combine that with a massive legal pressure campaign to accept any and all forms of b****ts, well, you can see how they are dependent.

Now that b****t collection has been shown to be a much more effective way to maintain political power, Democrats in a general sense are less focused on winning v**es and more focused on gathering b****ts.

When ‘b****t organization’ becomes more important than ‘v**e winning,’ you modify your e*******l campaign approaches accordingly. It might sound simplistic, but inside the distinct difference between b****ts and v**es you will find why refusing debates is a successful strategy.


There is only one possible solution to this perversion of the v****g system. That is, restoring in-person v****g on e******n day. Let the candidates compete for v**es, not b****ts.

Nobody knows yet if Kari Lake will be the next Governor of Arizona, but we do know that she was and still is the most popular candidate and by a wide margin. Unfortunately, in the end the b****t may outweigh the v**e.
Many Arizonans have wondered and scratched their h... (show quote)


That is exactly how it happens. My brother and I both got v***r r**********n cards for our dead parents from the Beto campaign here in Texas. All we has to do was fill them out and send them in, request a mail in b****t and done, both both dead parents could have v**ed.

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Nov 15, 2022 08:23:26   #
Ricktloml
 
maryjane wrote:
"No one has labeled any past e******ns as unfair or illegal...." In the past, several times e******ns were labeled exactly that by the DEMOCRATS including the Trump/Clinton e******n. In fact, ", stolen, illegal" was al, we heard from the Democrat crowd after Clinton lost. In Georgia, the loser in the 2020 governor's race, Abrams, called that e******n illegal/stolen and continued that story right up until she lost the e******n a second time this month. I am so tired of democrats condemning Republicans for the very same things they themselves do often. I am beginning to wonder just how few American v**ers today have any commonsense OR critical thinking ability. Seems not to be very many, but the numbers easily brainwashed/manipulated appear to be huge.
"No one has labeled any past e******ns as unf... (show quote)




I too am appalled at the number of American useful i***ts. It is a sad illustration of how easy it is to dupe people...even people who have benefitted all their lives from the individual liberty/freedom of speech that this country (one of the very few,) affords them. The left/Democrat/C*******t Party doles out known lies/empty promises---useful i***ts eagerly drool/slobber over the same lies/empty promises that have ens***ed citizens to the almighty state for decades.

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