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Nov 2, 2022 18:55:22   #
PeterS
 
So Abbott has a billion dollars for a border wall and he hasn't spent spit on it? And this is an article from 2021 and sadly with regard to the wall, it's still accurate!

I wonder how hard it would be to walk around 900 feet of border wall...and why hasn't Abbott used the money Texas allocated to build the wall? Is he pulling a Trump and only building a fraction of the wall? But then didn't Trump build 21 miles of the wall for 3 billion? Well, shouldn't Abbott have built one-third of the wall that Trump built? How do you cons like your having your taxes raised for a wall that was never going to be built? Ah, you guys are loaded so what's a little more in Taxes for you? What-a-rip!
Gov. Greg Abbott unveiled nearly 900 feet of newly constructed border barrier on state-owned land near the Rio Grande in Starr County, six months after he promised to finish what President Donald Trump started.

It was the first section of what’s expected to be a nearly 2-mile stretch of wall, and it followed a series of smaller-scale state attempts to block immigrants with chain-link fences, a row of shipping containers and even a boat blockade on the river.

But after the Trump administration managed to build just 21 miles of new border barrier on the 1,254-mile Texas-Mexico border over four years (and also replaced 34 miles of older barrier), the state hasn’t publicly disclosed some basic information about Abbott’s wall-building plans.

Texas has set aside $1.05 billion for border barriers but hasn’t revealed where it plans to build them, how much each mile will cost or how it’s addressing the challenge of acquiring enough private land to fulfill Abbott’s promise.

“We’re going to spend as much as it takes to build as much wall as we possibly can,” Abbott said at his Saturday press conference in Starr County.

For such a high-profile publicly financed project, the Texas wall effort is unusually secretive, said Scott Amey, general counsel of the Project on Government Oversight, a watchdog group in Washington, D.C.

Amey said such information was posted online when the federal government was building border barriers.

“I’m unsure there are valid justifications for not releasing information,” Amey said. “It doesn’t seem as if it’s a big secret when the federal government was building the wall.”

Abbott’s office directed questions to the Texas Facilities Commission, the state agency overseeing the border wall project.

The barrier being erected in Starr County offers the first insights into how the state will carry out Abbott’s wall project. In November, the Facilities Commission awarded a $162 million contract to New York-based Posillico Civil Inc. to build 8 miles of border barrier, including the 1.7-mile stretch in Starr County that the Facilities Commission said will cost $34.5 million.

That’s just over $20 million a mile. By comparison, border wall construction under the Trump administration ranged from $6 million to $34 million per mile, according to a Texas Tribune analysis.

Abbott has said that 733 miles of the Texas-Mexico border may need some type of barrier. Roughly 1,000 miles have no barrier.

With the $1.05 billion the state has for construction — most of it taxpayer money, but it includes $54 million in private donations, as of Dec. 13 — Texas could build just over 52 miles of border barrier at that price per mile.

Unlike the border in California, Arizona or New Mexico, which is largely federal land, much of the Texas-Mexico border is privately owned. According to a 2020 Government Accountability Office report, it took the Trump administration 21 to 30 months to seize privately owned land in South Texas for wall construction. The report said comparable land acquisitions in other parts of the country took a year.

Texas will need a large amount of private land to build Abbott’s wall. The governor has said state officials are in talks with private property owners along the border who are willing to donate their land so the state can build barriers on their property.

The state manages 497,075 acres of land within 25 miles of the border, said Matt Atwood, a spokesperson for Texas Land Commissioner George P. Bush, who has sued the Biden administration for halting construction of the border wall in South Texas.

In Starr County, Posillico Civil plans to build an additional 1.2 miles on private property next to the 1.7-mile stretch, but no agreement has been reached with nearby landowners, said Francoise Luca, a Facilities Commission spokesperson. The location of the remaining 5.1 miles outlined in the Posillico contract has not been determined, Luca said.

During a Texas Facilities Commission meeting last month, John Raff, the deputy executive director, said the agency has found 23 landowners who would be willing to have a border wall built on their property. He didn’t say where that property is or how many miles of barrier could be built on those tracts.

The commission has not said when it plans to award additional contracts to build other parts of the wall or how much the contracts will be worth.

“The work is in progress and so there are no final costs,” Luca said. “Factors that may impact cost can include terrain, floodplains, waterways, subsurface conditions, materials and easements, to name a few.”

She said the locations of border barriers depend on what the Texas Department of Public Safety determines are the highest-priority areas.

Charles Tiefer, a professor of government contracting law at the University of Baltimore, said there’s a lot of opposition to a border wall from environmentalists and immigrant rights groups, so Texas may be withholding details about its wall project to avoid bad publicity and lawsuits.

“Texas government’s refusal to provide the public with the land route is delaying and suppressing lawsuits by environmental organizations who can’t sue because they don’t yet know where the wall will be,” he said.




https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/21/texas-border-wall-abbott-secrecy/

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Nov 2, 2022 19:02:27   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
So Abbott has a billion dollars for a border wall and he hasn't spent spit on it? And this is an article from 2021 and sadly with regard to the wall, it's still accurate!

Gov. Greg Abbott unveiled nearly 900 feet of newly constructed border barrier on state-owned land near the Rio Grande in Starr County, six months after he promised to finish what President Donald Trump started.

It was the first section of what’s expected to be a nearly 2-mile stretch of wall, and it followed a series of smaller-scale state attempts to block immigrants with chain-link fences, a row of shipping containers and even a boat blockade on the river.

But after the Trump administration managed to build just 21 miles of new border barrier on the 1,254-mile Texas-Mexico border over four years (and also replaced 34 miles of older barrier), the state hasn’t publicly disclosed some basic information about Abbott’s wall-building plans.

Texas has set aside $1.05 billion for border barriers but hasn’t revealed where it plans to build them, how much each mile will cost or how it’s addressing the challenge of acquiring enough private land to fulfill Abbott’s promise.

“We’re going to spend as much as it takes to build as much wall as we possibly can,” Abbott said at his Saturday press conference in Starr County.

For such a high-profile publicly financed project, the Texas wall effort is unusually secretive, said Scott Amey, general counsel of the Project on Government Oversight, a watchdog group in Washington, D.C.

Amey said such information was posted online when the federal government was building border barriers.

“I’m unsure there are valid justifications for not releasing information,” Amey said. “It doesn’t seem as if it’s a big secret when the federal government was building the wall.”

Abbott’s office directed questions to the Texas Facilities Commission, the state agency overseeing the border wall project.

The barrier being erected in Starr County offers the first insights into how the state will carry out Abbott’s wall project. In November, the Facilities Commission awarded a $162 million contract to New York-based Posillico Civil Inc. to build 8 miles of border barrier, including the 1.7-mile stretch in Starr County that the Facilities Commission said will cost $34.5 million.

That’s just over $20 million a mile. By comparison, border wall construction under the Trump administration ranged from $6 million to $34 million per mile, according to a Texas Tribune analysis.

Abbott has said that 733 miles of the Texas-Mexico border may need some type of barrier. Roughly 1,000 miles have no barrier.

With the $1.05 billion the state has for construction — most of it taxpayer money, but it includes $54 million in private donations, as of Dec. 13 — Texas could build just over 52 miles of border barrier at that price per mile.

Unlike the border in California, Arizona or New Mexico, which is largely federal land, much of the Texas-Mexico border is privately owned. According to a 2020 Government Accountability Office report, it took the Trump administration 21 to 30 months to seize privately owned land in South Texas for wall construction. The report said comparable land acquisitions in other parts of the country took a year.

Texas will need a large amount of private land to build Abbott’s wall. The governor has said state officials are in talks with private property owners along the border who are willing to donate their land so the state can build barriers on their property.

The state manages 497,075 acres of land within 25 miles of the border, said Matt Atwood, a spokesperson for Texas Land Commissioner George P. Bush, who has sued the Biden administration for halting construction of the border wall in South Texas.

In Starr County, Posillico Civil plans to build an additional 1.2 miles on private property next to the 1.7-mile stretch, but no agreement has been reached with nearby landowners, said Francoise Luca, a Facilities Commission spokesperson. The location of the remaining 5.1 miles outlined in the Posillico contract has not been determined, Luca said.

During a Texas Facilities Commission meeting last month, John Raff, the deputy executive director, said the agency has found 23 landowners who would be willing to have a border wall built on their property. He didn’t say where that property is or how many miles of barrier could be built on those tracts.

The commission has not said when it plans to award additional contracts to build other parts of the wall or how much the contracts will be worth.

“The work is in progress and so there are no final costs,” Luca said. “Factors that may impact cost can include terrain, floodplains, waterways, subsurface conditions, materials and easements, to name a few.”

She said the locations of border barriers depend on what the Texas Department of Public Safety determines are the highest-priority areas.

Charles Tiefer, a professor of government contracting law at the University of Baltimore, said there’s a lot of opposition to a border wall from environmentalists and immigrant rights groups, so Texas may be withholding details about its wall project to avoid bad publicity and lawsuits.

“Texas government’s refusal to provide the public with the land route is delaying and suppressing lawsuits by environmental organizations who can’t sue because they don’t yet know where the wall will be,” he said.


I wonder how hard it would be to walk around 900 feet of fence.

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/12/21/texas-border-wall-abbott-secrecy/
So Abbott has a billion dollars for a border wall ... (show quote)


Do you have a point ?

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Nov 2, 2022 19:11:00   #
PeterS
 
son of witless wrote:
Do you have a point ?

Yeah, what-a-rip!

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Nov 2, 2022 19:21:44   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, what-a-rip!


Then you are good with the Democrats importing millions of future v**ers ?

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Nov 2, 2022 20:50:28   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
son of witless wrote:
Then you are good with the Democrats importing millions of future v**ers ?



Oh that..... that's not happening, the border is secure.... just ask petey.

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Nov 2, 2022 22:02:52   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
PeterS wrote:
Yeah, what-a-rip!

Since it is republicans awarding the contract at the local level you know that a lot of corruption is taking place.

The lack of t***sparency is a tell.

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Nov 2, 2022 22:25:54   #
American Vet
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Since it is republicans awarding the contract at the local level you know that a lot of corruption is taking place.

The lack of t***sparency is a tell.


Uh oh - better take your meds. You are back to making non-sensical comments.

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Nov 3, 2022 00:18:06   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Since it is republicans awarding the contract at the local level you know that a lot of corruption is taking place.

The lack of t***sparency is a tell.


Oh I quite sure that democrats are fully capable of corruption also. Your statement made you look like an ass. As usual.

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Nov 3, 2022 02:18:38   #
PeterS
 
son of witless wrote:
Then you are good with the Democrats importing millions of future v**ers ?

They are only future Democratic v**ers because you cons refuse to demand that men like Abbott build the GD wall after he's taxing Texans to do so. And for your information, I want a wall. I just want the GD thing built when I'm taxed for it to be built! Why is that such a hard principle to get through the heads of you fricking conservatives??? And why is it you guys keep crying about Democrats coming over the wall when neither Trump nor a Republican House and a Republican Senate failed at passing legislation that would have secured the funding for the wall? And don't blame Democrats because there were Republicans who v**ed against it too. Trump couldn't even get his own party to secure the v**e...now Abbott fails too? How do you think you can ever get a wall built when you don't have the people in office to do it?

And my bet, Abbott has his wheels set for running for president in 2024. I say that because you read his ads he does a better job of pushing Republican hot-button issues than Trump did. That's probably because Abbott actually is a conservative. Trump only ran as a Conservative because he knew if he pushed your hot-button issues you would fall in line like the puppets you are. And it worked...all you red-hatted MAGA puppets fell in line one by one, and you even bragged about it as if we weren't puppets because we didn't go to mindless rallies as you did. We fill a stadium full of i***ts for Trump and Democrats don't so that means the MAGA morons are going to outv**e them...unless the bluebills turn out to v**e! Oops, that one slipped by you didn't it?

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Nov 3, 2022 02:34:52   #
PeterS
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Oh I quite sure that democrats are fully capable of corruption also. Your statement made you look like an ass. As usual.

Oh come now, you fell for one of the biggest lies of the century and in over 60 cases you cons couldn't find a single court of law, even ones you owned, to agree to hear your case.

As for corrupt Democrats, you are welcome to look them up, but you're never going to find the millions who you cons claim were corrupted by the 2020 e******n. Can you find even 20? I would be surprised if you did...

As for corrupt Republicans trying to overturn the e******n I know of at least 10,000 plus who stormed the Capitol on January the 6th! So we have 20 Democrats vs 10,000 plus Republican s******nists. So who do you think has more?

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Nov 3, 2022 03:02:08   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Since it is republicans awarding the contract at the local level you know that a lot of corruption is taking place.

The lack of t***sparency is a tell.



Shut up

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Nov 3, 2022 03:03:29   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh come now, you fell for one of the biggest lies of the century and in over 60 cases you cons couldn't find a single court of law, even ones you owned, to agree to hear your case.

As for corrupt Democrats, you are welcome to look them up, but you're never going to find the millions who you cons claim were corrupted by the 2020 e******n. Can you find even 20? I would be surprised if you did...

As for corrupt Republicans trying to overturn the e******n I know of at least 10,000 plus who stormed the Capitol on January the 6th! So we have 20 Democrats vs 10,000 plus Republican s******nists. So who do you think has more?
Oh come now, you fell for one of the biggest lies ... (show quote)




Us..... is probably why it's best you shut your chittlin hole.

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Nov 3, 2022 03:04:41   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Since it is republicans awarding the contract at the local level you know that a lot of corruption is taking place.

The lack of t***sparency is a tell.




Somewhere in the fairy land of oz some town is missing its most ignorant gnome.

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Nov 3, 2022 04:58:49   #
albertk
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Since it is republicans awarding the contract at the local level you know that a lot of corruption is taking place.

The lack of t***sparency is a tell.



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Nov 3, 2022 07:17:54   #
American Vet
 
PeterS wrote:
They are only future Democratic v**ers because you cons refuse to demand that men like Abbott build the GD wall after he's taxing Texans to do so. And for your information, I want a wall. I just want the GD thing built when I'm taxed for it to be built! Why is that such a hard principle to get through the heads of you fricking conservatives??? And why is it you guys keep crying about Democrats coming over the wall when neither Trump nor a Republican House and a Republican Senate failed at passing legislation that would have secured the funding for the wall? And don't blame Democrats because there were Republicans who v**ed against it too. Trump couldn't even get his own party to secure the v**e...now Abbott fails too? How do you think you can ever get a wall built when you don't have the people in office to do it?

And my bet, Abbott has his wheels set for running for president in 2024. I say that because you read his ads he does a better job of pushing Republican hot-button issues than Trump did. That's probably because Abbott actually is a conservative. Trump only ran as a Conservative because he knew if he pushed your hot-button issues you would fall in line like the puppets you are. And it worked...all you red-hatted MAGA puppets fell in line one by one, and you even bragged about it as if we weren't puppets because we didn't go to mindless rallies as you did. We fill a stadium full of i***ts for Trump and Democrats don't so that means the MAGA morons are going to outv**e them...unless the bluebills turn out to v**e! Oops, that one slipped by you didn't it?
They are only future Democratic v**ers because you... (show quote)


Quite a rant. Did you wipe the foam off the keyboard when you were finished?

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