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Nov 2, 2022 16:04:40   #
EmilyD
 
TommyRadd wrote:
Seems you aren’t very biblically literate. Here, let me help you out…



“1“Most certainly, I tell you, one who doesn’t enter by the door into the sheep fold, but climbs up some other way, is a thief and a robber.” John 10:1

“25Agree with your adversary quickly while you are with him on the way; lest perhaps the prosecutor deliver you to the judge, and the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be cast into prison. 26Most certainly I tell you, you shall by no means get out of there until you have paid the last penny.” Matthew 5:25-26

“3Be careful. If your brother sins against you, rebuke him. If he repents, forgive him.” John 17:3

“5“But if a man is just, and does that which is lawful and right, 6and has not eaten on the mountains, hasn’t lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hasn’t defiled his neighbor’s wife, hasn’t come near a woman in her impurity, 7and has not wronged any, but has restored to the debtor his pledge, has taken nothing by robbery, has given his bread to the hungry, and has covered the naked with a garment; 8he who hasn’t lent to them with interest, hasn’t taken any increase from them, who has withdrawn his hand from iniquity, has executed true justice between man and man, 9has walked in my statutes, and has kept my ordinances, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live,” says the Lord Yahweh.” Ezekiel 18:5-9

“24“But when the righteous turns away from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, and does according to all the a*********ns that the wicked man does, should he live? None of his righteous deeds that he has done will be remembered. In his trespass that he has trespassed, and in his sin that he has sinned, in them he shall die. 25“Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not equal.’ Hear now, house of Israel: Is my way not equal? Aren’t your ways unequal? 26When the righteous man turns away from his righteousness, and commits iniquity, and dies in it, then he dies in his iniquity that he has done. 27Again, when the wicked man turns away from his wickedness that he has committed, and does that which is lawful and right, he will save his soul alive. 28Because he considers, and turns away from all his t***sgressions that he has committed, he shall surely live. He shall not die. 29Yet the house of Israel says, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ House of Israel, aren’t my ways fair? Aren’t your ways unfair?” Ezekiel 18:24-29

You are an unfair man, PeterS.
Seems you aren’t very biblically literate. Here, l... (show quote)


Isn't it amazing that people who have no faith are always quoting the Bible out of context....or saying the Bible doesn't cover something but never read it.

Good post, by the way...🙂

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Nov 2, 2022 16:05:24   #
EmilyD
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Excellent analysis! Violating laws of the land IS treasonous but, naturally, left is totally silent. What if Trump would’ve opened the borders?

He'd probably be in jail.

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Nov 2, 2022 18:29:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Why do Conservative Christians think Christ rejects i*****l i*******ts......plus the babies of illegal pregnant women, plus the babies i******s have already given birth to? Where in the bible are such claims made?

You should be ashamed of yourself, Peter, such profoundly ignorant questions are self-humiliating.
The world was very different 2000 years ago.
At the time of Jesus, the Roman Empire ruled the Holy Land.
The emperor, his governors, pretorians, and consuls determined immigration policies.
If you didn't fit in, you either packed your bags or you were nailed to a cross.
Jesus did not come to administer and enforce Roman policies.
His Kingdom is not of this world, doncha know?

Get on your knees, Pete, ask Jesus to forgive you.



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Nov 2, 2022 20:56:30   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
PeterS wrote:
...plus the babies of illegal pregnant women, plus the babies i******s have already given birth to? Where in the bible are such claims made?


Guess what happened to all the babies and pregnant women among the Midianites???

You'd be shocked concerning God's regard for children when it comes to borders

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Nov 2, 2022 21:24:16   #
David L Loc: Central Wisconsin
 
PeterS wrote:
...plus the babies of illegal pregnant women, plus the babies i******s have already given birth to? Where in the bible are such claims made?


Speaking of babies, what about the countless number of children that are seriously hurt and even k**led because of Bidens lawless border.

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Nov 2, 2022 22:32:12   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
David L wrote:
Speaking of babies, what about the countless number of children that are seriously hurt and even k**led because of Bidens lawless border.


Also children are being raped, and abandoned in the desert. Border patrol just rescued several.

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Nov 3, 2022 00:53:37   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
PeterS wrote:
...plus the babies of illegal pregnant women, plus the babies i******s have already given birth to? Where in the bible are such claims made?


Well, PeterS, either you are being like St. Peter talking with Christ or you just got drunk on the Koolaide of the far left.

By the comments I read on this thread, it seems that you didn't read the Bible for understanding but rather picked out something to troll about.

But if you want some wisdom about the situation you bring up, here goes:

A human being is a human being. And all human beings belong to the great family of humanity. Now that's as simple as it gets, now when a person enters into a country against the authority of that country, and they do it in a chaotic fashion, breaking that country's laws of order, then we call that person illegal, because instead of following the proper order, that was passed by Congress, and agreed to by the people of that country, about the orderly fashion of entry, that person then insults and defies the laws of the host country(this country).

Try to do that in Russia, Ukraine, Iran or China, and you would probably be k**led on site, especially if they find out you are an American citizen.

Now, if the immigrant does it by the proper channels then, all is good and they may stay.

But then if millions are invading the southwest, the only fair solution is to keep them out, while processing them. Stay in Mexico, policy for example. Once the government approved the immigrant they are welcomed.

None of what I said herein is against Christianity or the natural law. The entrance and survival of any community must be done orderly.

Since stay in Mexico, was undermined, and if you are in California, Arizona, New Mexico or Texas, where do you put the overflow?

Ron Desantis tried to send them to Martha's Vineyard, and they, with in 24 hours, deported 50 i*****l i*******ts. So if it works for that community, it should in theory work for all communities, that is if we abide by biblical teaching.

This little op-ed destroys the premise of your analogy. Since the constitution was based on biblical teaching but is not biblical, then the constitution contains mistakes where the bible and the teachings of Christ do not.

Therefore the response from Christ probably would be to admonish the hypothetical analogy because the analogy is a sin against thy neighbor.

Look at it this way, consider your house as a country. Would you allow uninvited guests and strangers into your home, with your children and wife and rest of your family present? Not knowing the character of the uninvited guest or stranger? Wouldn't you at least vet such a guest? For the safety of your family?

Same applies to the immigrant.

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Nov 3, 2022 04:31:13   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
Ranger7374 wrote:
Well, PeterS, either you are being like St. Peter talking with Christ or you just got drunk on the Koolaide of the far left.

By the comments I read on this thread, it seems that you didn't read the Bible for understanding but rather picked out something to troll about.

But if you want some wisdom about the situation you bring up, here goes:

A human being is a human being. And all human beings belong to the great family of humanity. Now that's as simple as it gets, now when a person enters into a country against the authority of that country, and they do it in a chaotic fashion, breaking that country's laws of order, then we call that person illegal, because instead of following the proper order, that was passed by Congress, and agreed to by the people of that country, about the orderly fashion of entry, that person then insults and defies the laws of the host country(this country).

Try to do that in Russia, Ukraine, Iran or China, and you would probably be k**led on site, especially if they find out you are an American citizen.

Now, if the immigrant does it by the proper channels then, all is good and they may stay.

But then if millions are invading the southwest, the only fair solution is to keep them out, while processing them. Stay in Mexico, policy for example. Once the government approved the immigrant they are welcomed.

None of what I said herein is against Christianity or the natural law. The entrance and survival of any community must be done orderly.

Since stay in Mexico, was undermined, and if you are in California, Arizona, New Mexico or Texas, where do you put the overflow?

Ron Desantis tried to send them to Martha's Vineyard, and they, with in 24 hours, deported 50 i*****l i*******ts. So if it works for that community, it should in theory work for all communities, that is if we abide by biblical teaching.

This little op-ed destroys the premise of your analogy. Since the constitution was based on biblical teaching but is not biblical, then the constitution contains mistakes where the bible and the teachings of Christ do not.

Therefore the response from Christ probably would be to admonish the hypothetical analogy because the analogy is a sin against thy neighbor.

Look at it this way, consider your house as a country. Would you allow uninvited guests and strangers into your home, with your children and wife and rest of your family present? Not knowing the character of the uninvited guest or stranger? Wouldn't you at least vet such a guest? For the safety of your family?

Same applies to the immigrant.
Well, PeterS, either you are being like St. Peter ... (show quote)


Excellent job explaining it, Ranger. I am curious how Peter replies....if he does. Be aware that Peter has had this explained to him before, but like Keyvn or Milosia, Peter is very set in his hatred of of anything to the right of Joy Behar, and habitually ignores, distorts, or attacks anything that does not fit his narrative.
Thank you for a really good effort. No telling who else you may have gotten through to.

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Nov 3, 2022 06:48:29   #
Big Kahuna
 
PeterS wrote:
...plus the babies of illegal pregnant women, plus the babies i******s have already given birth to? Where in the bible are such claims made?


If you read the Bible, your questions would be very obvious. Try reading it and start with the book of John.

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Nov 3, 2022 06:52:45   #
Big Kahuna
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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You really are not only dumb but stupid! Don't you know that everything must have guidelines to follow how to live in peace and orderly manner?Even God has laws for His people to obey. That's the "Ten Commandments". And God also requires us to follow the laws of our country in order to live in peace and orderly manner. Our laws are the Constitution.

Jesus knew that it was important to obey the laws of the land. In the country where He lived, Caesar was the ruler. When the people asked Jesus if they should obey the law, He told the people to “render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s” (Matt. 22:21). In other words, Jesus taught us to obey and honor both the laws of the land, or nation, we live in, and God’s laws. That law is the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

Joe Biden violates that law on immigration, required in the Constitution! It's treason!
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Joe and his party also violate God's Commandment, "Thou shalt not murder" as they love a******n and the murdering of the unborn. Joe and his party also broke God’s Commandment as to not lie, STEAL and c***t when they stole the 2020 e******n.

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Nov 3, 2022 06:59:22   #
Big Kahuna
 
Forkbassman wrote:
Excellent analysis! Violating laws of the land IS treasonous but, naturally, left is totally silent. What if Trump would’ve opened the borders?


The dems always want to restrict White Europeans from immigrating to our country but endorse all i******s from 3rd world, l*****t leaning countries. Trump should have opened the borders to W****s only from Europe and the dems would have gone absolutely crazy.

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Nov 3, 2022 07:57:54   #
Big dog
 
PeterS wrote:
...plus the babies of illegal pregnant women, plus the babies i******s have already given birth to? Where in the bible are such claims made?


Where do you pull this propaganda out of?
Oh, never mind.



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Nov 3, 2022 08:45:13   #
Radiance3
 
EmilyD wrote:
It's in our Constitution. Citizens of this Country are either born here, or naturalized. Otherwise they are either guests or i*****l a***n trespassers.


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ttps://www.thecentersquare.com/national/nearly-5-million-foreign-nationals-have-entered-the-u-s-illegally-since-biden-took-office/article_dfaa6376-1e25-11ed-b23d-77891ec8afbf.html

These 5 million don't include those who were not caught but escaped into the US mainland, About 1.5 million of them. We feed them despite of our sufferings at present due to highest inflation. Many of our families could not afford to put food on their table. Yet we feed 6.5 million more of i******s.

How about unaccompanied children?
For 2021 alone there are 122,000 children. Not included here is the 2022. What about the prior years?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-122000-unaccompanied-migrant-children-us-shelters-2021/

These children are raped, abused and sold to bad people by the Drug cartels. But why do those stupid countries put up their kids in these inhuman conditions?

These unlawful disasters brought in by Obama and Joe Biden are disastrous to our country. However, I think they have different goals why they are multiplying these i******s into the United States. The purpose is to multiply their people in order to win the power system of Marxist rule of government over the present Constitutional-Republic that US have. What they are doing is a Constitutional violation!!

Obama and Biden's goal is to change the US government system for Totalitarian which they have already started it. They violate the Constitution, and replaced with their Dictatorial power that presently govern us.

Biden the demented is only the puppet of Barack Obama. I think Biden is the 3rd term of Barack.

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Nov 3, 2022 08:49:52   #
Radiance3
 
Big Kahuna wrote:
Joe and his party also violate God's Commandment, "Thou shalt not murder" as they love a******n and the murdering of the unborn. Joe and his party also broke God’s Commandment as to not lie, STEAL and c***t when they stole the 2020 e******n.

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The Totalitarian system of Barack and Joe has NO God. Check the Public Schools now. Kids are indoctrinated to various Godless behavior. They removed God from the Schools.

That is why their system is filled with violence and corruptions. They have removed God from the government system. They ruler becomes the ruler as well as the gods.

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Nov 3, 2022 08:57:12   #
Radiance3
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
You should be ashamed of yourself, Peter, such profoundly ignorant questions are self-humiliating.
The world was very different 2000 years ago.
At the time of Jesus, the Roman Empire ruled the Holy Land.
The emperor, his governors, pretorians, and consuls determined immigration policies.
If you didn't fit in, you either packed your bags or you were nailed to a cross.
Jesus did not come to administer and enforce Roman policies.
His Kingdom is not of this world, doncha know?

Get on your knees, Pete, ask Jesus to forgive you.
You should be ashamed of yourself, Peter, such pro... (show quote)

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