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Nov 9, 2014 20:05:26   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
I love this columnist's advice for the parents of a young gay person. Set an example of how clearly orientation is a choice by changing yourself for a year or so.



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Nov 9, 2014 20:10:50   #
dennisimoto Loc: Washington State (West)
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I love this columnist's advice for the parents of a young gay person. Set an example of how clearly orientation is a choice by changing yourself for a year or so.


Nothing to it eh? A simple matter of a "lifestyle choice."

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Nov 9, 2014 20:56:54   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
http://i.imgur.com/1JnfhWV.jpg

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Nov 9, 2014 21:14:29   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I love this columnist's advice for the parents of a young gay person. Set an example of how clearly orientation is a choice by changing yourself for a year or so.


Maybe the fact that you have ignored his very existence for a number of years is what should be changed, don't you think.? To the extent that environment is influential in sexual orientation, what you have done in your treatment of your boy has a great deal to do with his behavior at this point, and your anger and further rejection of him when he is seeking love from the man in his life (his father) is the worst thing you could have done, and you are still doing . He should be ashamed of you and your horrible non effort at being a loving parent, not the other way around.

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Nov 9, 2014 22:55:58   #
L8erToots
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I love this columnist's advice for the parents of a young gay person. Set an example of how clearly orientation is a choice by changing yourself for a year or so.


I think you totally missed the point of her advice to the parent, or possibly stopped reading at that point. Read it again, especially the sentence after she says to "try it for a year" and you'll see that she was merely trying to invoke some much needed empathy into this parent and help them understand that being gay is not a choice, it's who his son is.

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Nov 9, 2014 23:30:00   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
L8erToots wrote:
I think you totally missed the point of her advice to the parent, or possibly stopped reading at that point. Read it again, especially the sentence after she says to "try it for a year" and you'll see that she was merely trying to invoke some much needed empathy into this parent and help them understand that being gay is not a choice, it's who his son is.


L8er - Your point is the one I was trying to make...seems my short stab at irony/sarcasm didn't execute well. But I'm very much encouraged that you seem to understand the issue.

I myself am gay, and have been for as long as I was aware of such things. It is not a choice at all, as this columnist makes clear.

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Nov 9, 2014 23:33:28   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Maybe the fact that you have ignored his very existence for a number of years is what should be changed, don't you think.? To the extent that environment is influential in sexual orientation, what you have done in your treatment of your boy has a great deal to do with his behavior at this point, and your anger and further rejection of him when he is seeking love from the man in his life (his father) is the worst thing you could have done, and you are still doing . He should be ashamed of you and your horrible non effort at being a loving parent, not the other way around.
Maybe the fact that you have ignored his very exis... (show quote)


NPP - I'm really unclear at what you are trying to say; maybe you can elaborate?

What I was trying to point out in this post is that sexual orientation is not a choice. If it were then any heterosexual would be able to choose to be gay - say for a year or so to illustrate to their child how easy it is to change. But everyone knows a heterosexual cannot just decide to be gay. So why think a gay person's ability to change is any different?

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Nov 9, 2014 23:45:06   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Why Risk Destroying Everything To 'Prove' Anything By L*****t Propaganda Rules.

'HA ! HA !! Everybody, Just Kidding !!'
Who Are You Anne Heche ??

I Believe Many Are 'Born That Way'
But Prove That It Is A Commonality Because Of Physiology Across The Broad Spectrum
And Not A Result Of Mental Factors, Abuse, Environment Or Predatory 'G***ming'

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Nov 9, 2014 23:55:58   #
Grugore
 
We may not have any choice about our sexual orientation, but we do have a choice about whether or not we act on those feelings. Homosexual behavior is destructive to the individual and society as a whole. The majority of new aids victims are homosexual. Then you have bisexuals, who spread the disease even further. Many homosexuals have hundreds of sexual partners over their lifetime. It's time we put a stop to this plague.

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Nov 10, 2014 01:41:06   #
PaulPisces Loc: San Francisco
 
Grugore wrote:
We may not have any choice about our sexual orientation, but we do have a choice about whether or not we act on those feelings. Homosexual behavior is destructive to the individual and society as a whole. The majority of new aids victims are homosexual. Then you have bisexuals, who spread the disease even further. Many homosexuals have hundreds of sexual partners over their lifetime. It's time we put a stop to this plague.


Grugore - I don't know how anyone manages to hold onto such medieval ideas as you've expressed. In fact the majority of newly infected AIDS patients worldwide are heterosexual women. And in case you have not heard, the disease is spread by a v***s, not by any sexual act per se. There are many people who have significant numbers of partners, but because they practice safer sex, remain uninfected.

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Nov 10, 2014 02:48:10   #
L8erToots
 
PaulPisces wrote:
L8er - Your point is the one I was trying to make...seems my short stab at irony/sarcasm didn't execute well. But I'm very much encouraged that you seem to understand the issue.

I myself am gay, and have been for as long as I was aware of such things. It is not a choice at all, as this columnist makes clear.


I honestly wasn't sure if your comment was sarcastic or not - maybe a :wink: would help? Of course I understand the issue; one of my sons is gay. Just because I'm a fiscal conservative doesn't mean I'm a h**eful homophobe and having a gay son has nothing to do with it either- I'm just a h**er of h**e and always have been :-D Well, I'm a h**er of Islam, but only because it's earned it :D

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Nov 10, 2014 05:15:36   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
PaulPisces wrote:
I love this columnist's advice for the parents of a young gay person. Set an example of how clearly orientation is a choice by changing yourself for a year or so.


Who reads that tripe other than bored housewives and homosexuals?

"Changing your sexuality" is Liberalish for doing perverse and abominable behaviors. At 17, you are way past the age of accountability and mommy and daddy's tutelage. If t***h could be told, I rather picture FEELING BETRAYED as some former swayback girl of ill repute, that gave sonny boy a zip, nada, zero moral code or, more importantly sonny is just living by the example set for him by, "FB".

I never heard a "church group" yanking anyone's kid out of the fire. Her concern is being made fun of? I can see nothing from the pulpit stuck in her thick skull.

Sonny at 17 won't listen to reason and stop being gay :XD: :XD: :XD: because, sonny knows a hypocrite when he sees one and, just wanted to pinch mommy's nose.

Now "Amy Dickinson (born November 6, 1959) is an American newspaper columnist who writes the syndicated advice column, Ask Amy. Dickinson has appeared as a social commentator on ABC's Good Morning America and NBC's The Today Show."

There's a real source of godly wisdom for ya. Wonder why FB didn't take the q***r kid matter up with her pastor and wrote Amy instead? Oh right, embarrassment how could I forget.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :XD: :XD: :XD:

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Nov 10, 2014 05:18:11   #
cant beleve Loc: Planet Kolob
 
L8erToots wrote:
I honestly wasn't sure if your comment was sarcastic or not - maybe a :wink: would help? Of course I understand the issue; one of my sons is gay. Just because I'm a fiscal conservative doesn't mean I'm a h**eful homophobe and having a gay son has nothing to do with it either- I'm just a h**er of h**e and always have been :-D Well, I'm a h**er of Islam, but only because it's earned it :D


Good point..but this guy wants to "educate" us when we knowt what we know..and he's not gonna change nothing. Just stir the pot up :XD:

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Nov 10, 2014 05:20:41   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
L8erToots wrote:
I think you totally missed the point of her advice to the parent, or possibly stopped reading at that point. Read it again, especially the sentence after she says to "try it for a year" and you'll see that she was merely trying to invoke some much needed empathy into this parent and help them understand that being gay is not a choice, it's who his son is.


Being male is not a choice. Being female, not a choice. Being black, Hispanic, Chinese, Japanese... still NOT A CHOICE.

Being willfully ignorant and a homo... the choice is all yours!

:roll: :roll: :roll:

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Nov 10, 2014 05:23:16   #
RockKnutne Loc: Valhöll
 
PaulPisces wrote:
L8er - Your point is the one I was trying to make...seems my short stab at irony/sarcasm didn't execute well. But I'm very much encouraged that you seem to understand the issue.

I myself am gay, and have been for as long as I was aware of such things. It is not a choice at all, as this columnist makes clear.


If you were able to tell me all about yourself in complete confidence and with brutal honesty and sincerity... I could tell you why you are a homo.

I'll wait, they say Hell may freeze over this winter.

:roll: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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