American Vet

So a BJ in the Oval Office is "honorable"?

Lying under oath is "honorable"?

Calling the police stupid is "honorable"?

That explains a lot......

EmilyD

The Trumps watched the FBI raid their home on the security cameras while they were in New York....you know, the security cameras that the FBI told the staff at Mar-a-Lago to turn off (but didn't because Eric Trump demanded to see where it was written in the warrant that that had to be done)? They saw what happened first hand. YOU did not. You sound like a fool making the argument that she didn't like them touching her intimate things. No woman that I know would like to see those men pawing all over their bras and panties and then put them on - even after washing them! If you like that sort of thing, good for you - but don't project that onto other women!!!

American Vet

I get it quite well - you are simply parsing words to defend your indefensible position.

You implied it - and I pointed out that is pretty stupid.

American Vet

And I stated/asked what is obvious: Is a BJ in the Oval Office "honorable"?

And they are your opinions....however biased they may be.

EmilyD

You like high prices? Great because you will LOVE what FJB is going to do after the e******n. And paying for all those i*****l a***ns should be fun, right? The more the merrier! Who cares if our taxes double (again) in order to pay for their housing, food, education, health care, clothing and wh**ever else they cost us...

EmilyD

straightUp is a master at twisting and parsing (good word) people's words whose viewpoints she doesn't like.

She must have studied Saul Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" book in detail.

agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa

ABSOLUTELY !

EmilyD

I won't be surprised if her answer is that Bill's BJ was just him being frisky, and there was no harm done. Let's wait for it.......

moldyoldy

If trump had even a hint of impropriety he would be showing it at every rally and blasting it on Fox News.

EmilyD

He CAN'T! That's what I tried to tell you - his lawyers have the videos and are scrutinizing them. He would jeopardize his law suit if he released those videos to the public....believe me, he probably wants desperately to do that!! If you don't understand this, then you have no business talking about it.

moldyoldy

The lawyers have copies and trump has a history of threats about made up grievances. Nothing happened, anyone who has been watching trump knows his MO.

straightUp Loc: California

I'm not selling anything... In that post I was only presenting the facts so people can form their own opinions. The fact that you responded the way you did tells me that on some level that's what the facts are telling you.

As for my opinion... I think calling one group "better" than the other without being specific about what they are supposedly better at doing, is nonsense. That being said, I think people who studied to get law degrees are better at governing a land of laws than people looking for good times at parties.


I don't think Monica was blowing him in front of an audience of children, Emily. I don't think getting a blow job was more important to him than his job either. Was it honorable? No. But then again, every president has taken a sh.t on a White House toilet too - do we call that honorable?

By honor, I was referring to the roles and the responsibilities of the first family such as welcoming the new first family to the White House, which every first family has done as a show of respect... except for the Trump's who were too pissed off because they lost the e******n.


I wouldn't care any more than I did when Bill did it. I'm not an uptight conservative prude, remember? As far as I am concerned, politicians can get blow jobs all the time (and I'm sure many of them do), without interfering with their responsibilities.

I just laugh at the hypocrisy on the right... ready to impeach a Democratic president because of a blow job, but willing to make excuses for a Republican who had to pay off a prostitute to keep her mouth shut.

BIRDMAN

I think it’s you that likes golden showers

EmilyD

Oh...nothing happened, now!! You were there? You saw the videos?

I guess I shouldn't expect Rats to be t***hful, but proclaiming that you know what happened while the FBI raided the Trumps' home is pretty out there!

Yes, children heard all about the blow job that Bill got in the oval office. It will be in their history books for many years to come. He was impeached for it - this is a piece of history that nothing you say will erase.

straightUp Loc: California

YOU didn't either.


That wasn't MY argument. That argument comes from the original post by you pal OldSailor65. In fact here's the statement, verbatim.

Melania Trump was apparently concerned about unknown men touching her underwear following the raid, according to Radar Online, citing a friend of the former First Lady.


Oh, really? Just after you said I sound like a fool for making the argument that she didn't like them touching her intimate things?


Oh, I think I know who's doing the projecting here. ;)

Here's a tip - don't accuse someone of acting a fool for making the argument that you yourself are going to make in the very next sentence. Maybe take a break and try not to respond when your so angry that you can't think straight.