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Republicans really don't want to protect e******ns, they only want to seem like it.
Sep 22, 2022 06:07:03   #
336Robin Loc: North Carolina
 
If Republicans are serious about e******n protection, then they will want to "really" protect the t******r of p***r and geolleeee, they don't appear to want to in the Senate. There is a reason for that. They want to play with the t******r of p***r.
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Associated Press

House passes e******n law overhaul in response to J*** 6 :

MARY CLARE JALONICK
Wed, September 21, 2022 at 12:03 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) — The House has passed legislation to overhaul the rules for certifying the results of a p**********l e******n as lawmakers accelerate their response to the J*** 6, 2021, i**********n and Donald Trump’s failed attempt to remain in power.

The bill, which is similar to bipartisan legislation moving through the Senate, would overhaul an arcane 1800s-era statute known as the E*******l Count Act that governs, along with the U.S. Constitution, how states and Congress certify e*****rs and declare p**********l e******n winners.

While that process has long been routine and ceremonial, Trump and a group of his aides and lawyers unsuccessfully tried to exploit loopholes in the law in an attempt to overturn his defeat to Joe Biden in the 2020 e******n. Democrats are pushing to pass the bill before the end of the year and ahead of the 2024 e******n cycle as Trump is considering another run.

While at least 10 GOP senators have signed on to the Senate version, the House v**e fell mostly along party lines. House Republicans — most of whom are still aligned with Trump — argued that the legislation shouldn't be a priority and that it is a political vehicle for Democrats ahead of November's midterm e******ns.

The final v**e was 229-203, with nine Republicans joining all Democrats in v****g for the bill. None of the nine Republicans is returning to Congress next year.

The legislation would set new parameters around the J*** 6 joint session of Congress that happens every four years after a p**********l e******n. The day turned violent last year after hundreds of Trump’s supporters interrupted the proceedings, broke into the building and threatened the lives of then-Vice President Mike Pence and members of Congress. The r****rs echoed Trump’s false claims of widespread fraud and wanted Pence to block Biden’s victory as he presided over the joint session.

The legislation intends to ensure that future J*** 6 sessions are “as the constitution envisioned, a ministerial day,” said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, a Republican who co-sponsored the legislation with House Administration Committee Chairwoman Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif. Both Cheney and Lofgren are also members of the House committee investigating the J*** 6 attack.

Ahead of the v**e, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the legislation is necessary as there have been attempts in states across the country to change e******n laws to make it easier to nullify future results.

“Now we have a solemn duty to ensure that future efforts to undermine our e******ns cannot succeed,” Pelosi said.

The bill would clarify in the law that the vice president’s role presiding over the count is only ceremonial and that he or she cannot change the results. It also sets out that each state can only send one certified set of e*****rs after Trump's allies had unsuccessfully tried to put together alternate slates of illegitimate pro-Trump e*****rs in swing states where Biden won.

“This bill will make it harder to convince people that they have the right to o*******w an e******n,” Lofgren said.

The legislation would increase the threshold for individual lawmakers’ objections to any state's e*******l v**es, requiring a third of the House and a third of the Senate to object to trigger v**es on the results in both chambers. Currently, only one lawmaker in the House and one lawmaker in the Senate has to object. The House bill would set out very narrow grounds for those objections, an attempt to thwart baseless or politically motivated challenges.

In addition, the bill would require courts to get involved if state or local officials want to delay a p**********l v**e or refuse to certify the results.

The House v**e comes as the Senate is moving on a similar track with enough Republican support to virtually ensure passage before the end of the year. After months of talks, House Democrats introduced their legislation Monday and held the quick v**e two days later in order to send the bill across the Capitol and start to resolve differences. A bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation this summer and a Senate committee is expected to v**e on it next week.

While the House bill is more expansive than the Senate version, the two bills cover similar ground and members in both chambers are optimistic that they can work out the differences. And despite the mostly party-line v**e in the House, supporters are encouraged by the bipartisan effort in the Senate.

“Both sides have an incentive to want a set of clear rules, and this is an antiquated law that no one understands,” said Benjamin Ginsburg, a longtime GOP lawyer who consulted with lawmakers as they wrote the bill. “All parties benefit from clarity.”

House GOP leaders encouraged their members to v**e against the legislation. They said the involvement of courts could d**g out e******ns and said the bill would take rights away from states.

The bill is an “attempt to federalize our e******ns,” Rep. Guy Reschenthaler, R-Pa., said on the House floor. He argued that v**ers are more focused on the economy and other issues than e******ns law.

“In my area of Pennsylvania, nobody is talking about this," Reschenthaler said.

Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, Lofgren’s GOP counterpart on the House Administration Committee, said Democrats are “desperately trying to talk about their favorite topic, and that is former President Donald Trump."

Democrats said the bill was not only a response to Trump, but also a way to prevent objections and mischief from all candidates in the future.

“If you think that this legislation is an attack on President Trump, you simply haven’t read the legislation because there’s nothing in there attacking President Trump,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., another member of the J*** 6 panel. “This is about reforming the E*******l Count Act so it works for the American people.”

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., was blunter. He criticized Republicans who have defended Trump's actions that day and who have downplayed the seriousness of the former president's attempts to overturn the results of the e******n.

Hoyer called the Republican opposition a “rationalization of what I believe is treason. ... It was rationalized then, and sadly it is being rationalized now.”

The nine Republicans who v**ed in support of the legislation are all either retiring or were defeated for ree******n in their GOP primaries this year. Eight of the nine v**ed for Trump's impeachment immediately after the i**********n.

The nine Republicans are Cheney and Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan, Peter Meijer of Michigan, Tom Rice of South Carolina, Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, John Katko of New York and Chris Jacobs of New York.

___

AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.

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Sep 22, 2022 06:28:10   #
Liberty Tree
 
336Robin wrote:
If Republicans are serious about e******n protection, then they will want to "really" protect the t******r of p***r and geolleeee, they don't appear to want to in the Senate. There is a reason for that. They want to play with the t******r of p***r.
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Associated Press

House passes e******n law overhaul in response to J*** 6 :

MARY CLARE JALONICK
Wed, September 21, 2022 at 12:03 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) — The House has passed legislation to overhaul the rules for certifying the results of a p**********l e******n as lawmakers accelerate their response to the J*** 6, 2021, i**********n and Donald Trump’s failed attempt to remain in power.

The bill, which is similar to bipartisan legislation moving through the Senate, would overhaul an arcane 1800s-era statute known as the E*******l Count Act that governs, along with the U.S. Constitution, how states and Congress certify e*****rs and declare p**********l e******n winners.

While that process has long been routine and ceremonial, Trump and a group of his aides and lawyers unsuccessfully tried to exploit loopholes in the law in an attempt to overturn his defeat to Joe Biden in the 2020 e******n. Democrats are pushing to pass the bill before the end of the year and ahead of the 2024 e******n cycle as Trump is considering another run.

While at least 10 GOP senators have signed on to the Senate version, the House v**e fell mostly along party lines. House Republicans — most of whom are still aligned with Trump — argued that the legislation shouldn't be a priority and that it is a political vehicle for Democrats ahead of November's midterm e******ns.

The final v**e was 229-203, with nine Republicans joining all Democrats in v****g for the bill. None of the nine Republicans is returning to Congress next year.

The legislation would set new parameters around the J*** 6 joint session of Congress that happens every four years after a p**********l e******n. The day turned violent last year after hundreds of Trump’s supporters interrupted the proceedings, broke into the building and threatened the lives of then-Vice President Mike Pence and members of Congress. The r****rs echoed Trump’s false claims of widespread fraud and wanted Pence to block Biden’s victory as he presided over the joint session.

The legislation intends to ensure that future J*** 6 sessions are “as the constitution envisioned, a ministerial day,” said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, a Republican who co-sponsored the legislation with House Administration Committee Chairwoman Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif. Both Cheney and Lofgren are also members of the House committee investigating the J*** 6 attack.

Ahead of the v**e, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the legislation is necessary as there have been attempts in states across the country to change e******n laws to make it easier to nullify future results.

“Now we have a solemn duty to ensure that future efforts to undermine our e******ns cannot succeed,” Pelosi said.

The bill would clarify in the law that the vice president’s role presiding over the count is only ceremonial and that he or she cannot change the results. It also sets out that each state can only send one certified set of e*****rs after Trump's allies had unsuccessfully tried to put together alternate slates of illegitimate pro-Trump e*****rs in swing states where Biden won.

“This bill will make it harder to convince people that they have the right to o*******w an e******n,” Lofgren said.

The legislation would increase the threshold for individual lawmakers’ objections to any state's e*******l v**es, requiring a third of the House and a third of the Senate to object to trigger v**es on the results in both chambers. Currently, only one lawmaker in the House and one lawmaker in the Senate has to object. The House bill would set out very narrow grounds for those objections, an attempt to thwart baseless or politically motivated challenges.

In addition, the bill would require courts to get involved if state or local officials want to delay a p**********l v**e or refuse to certify the results.

The House v**e comes as the Senate is moving on a similar track with enough Republican support to virtually ensure passage before the end of the year. After months of talks, House Democrats introduced their legislation Monday and held the quick v**e two days later in order to send the bill across the Capitol and start to resolve differences. A bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation this summer and a Senate committee is expected to v**e on it next week.

While the House bill is more expansive than the Senate version, the two bills cover similar ground and members in both chambers are optimistic that they can work out the differences. And despite the mostly party-line v**e in the House, supporters are encouraged by the bipartisan effort in the Senate.

“Both sides have an incentive to want a set of clear rules, and this is an antiquated law that no one understands,” said Benjamin Ginsburg, a longtime GOP lawyer who consulted with lawmakers as they wrote the bill. “All parties benefit from clarity.”

House GOP leaders encouraged their members to v**e against the legislation. They said the involvement of courts could d**g out e******ns and said the bill would take rights away from states.

The bill is an “attempt to federalize our e******ns,” Rep. Guy Reschenthaler, R-Pa., said on the House floor. He argued that v**ers are more focused on the economy and other issues than e******ns law.

“In my area of Pennsylvania, nobody is talking about this," Reschenthaler said.

Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, Lofgren’s GOP counterpart on the House Administration Committee, said Democrats are “desperately trying to talk about their favorite topic, and that is former President Donald Trump."

Democrats said the bill was not only a response to Trump, but also a way to prevent objections and mischief from all candidates in the future.

“If you think that this legislation is an attack on President Trump, you simply haven’t read the legislation because there’s nothing in there attacking President Trump,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., another member of the J*** 6 panel. “This is about reforming the E*******l Count Act so it works for the American people.”

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., was blunter. He criticized Republicans who have defended Trump's actions that day and who have downplayed the seriousness of the former president's attempts to overturn the results of the e******n.

Hoyer called the Republican opposition a “rationalization of what I believe is treason. ... It was rationalized then, and sadly it is being rationalized now.”

The nine Republicans who v**ed in support of the legislation are all either retiring or were defeated for ree******n in their GOP primaries this year. Eight of the nine v**ed for Trump's impeachment immediately after the i**********n.

The nine Republicans are Cheney and Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan, Peter Meijer of Michigan, Tom Rice of South Carolina, Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, John Katko of New York and Chris Jacobs of New York.

___

AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.
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Any e******n law passed by Democrats will be to their advantage to manipulate the results or they would not do it.

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Sep 22, 2022 06:53:31   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
336Robin wrote:
If Republicans are serious about e******n protection, then they will want to "really" protect the t******r of p***r and geolleeee, they don't appear to want to in the Senate. There is a reason for that. They want to play with the t******r of p***r.
: I



Associated Press

House passes e******n law overhaul in response to J*** 6 :

MARY CLARE JALONICK
Wed, September 21, 2022 at 12:03 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) — The House has passed legislation to overhaul the rules for certifying the results of a p**********l e******n as lawmakers accelerate their response to the J*** 6, 2021, i**********n and Donald Trump’s failed attempt to remain in power.

The bill, which is similar to bipartisan legislation moving through the Senate, would overhaul an arcane 1800s-era statute known as the E*******l Count Act that governs, along with the U.S. Constitution, how states and Congress certify e*****rs and declare p**********l e******n winners.

While that process has long been routine and ceremonial, Trump and a group of his aides and lawyers unsuccessfully tried to exploit loopholes in the law in an attempt to overturn his defeat to Joe Biden in the 2020 e******n. Democrats are pushing to pass the bill before the end of the year and ahead of the 2024 e******n cycle as Trump is considering another run.

While at least 10 GOP senators have signed on to the Senate version, the House v**e fell mostly along party lines. House Republicans — most of whom are still aligned with Trump — argued that the legislation shouldn't be a priority and that it is a political vehicle for Democrats ahead of November's midterm e******ns.

The final v**e was 229-203, with nine Republicans joining all Democrats in v****g for the bill. None of the nine Republicans is returning to Congress next year.

The legislation would set new parameters around the J*** 6 joint session of Congress that happens every four years after a p**********l e******n. The day turned violent last year after hundreds of Trump’s supporters interrupted the proceedings, broke into the building and threatened the lives of then-Vice President Mike Pence and members of Congress. The r****rs echoed Trump’s false claims of widespread fraud and wanted Pence to block Biden’s victory as he presided over the joint session.

The legislation intends to ensure that future J*** 6 sessions are “as the constitution envisioned, a ministerial day,” said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, a Republican who co-sponsored the legislation with House Administration Committee Chairwoman Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif. Both Cheney and Lofgren are also members of the House committee investigating the J*** 6 attack.

Ahead of the v**e, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the legislation is necessary as there have been attempts in states across the country to change e******n laws to make it easier to nullify future results.

“Now we have a solemn duty to ensure that future efforts to undermine our e******ns cannot succeed,” Pelosi said.

The bill would clarify in the law that the vice president’s role presiding over the count is only ceremonial and that he or she cannot change the results. It also sets out that each state can only send one certified set of e*****rs after Trump's allies had unsuccessfully tried to put together alternate slates of illegitimate pro-Trump e*****rs in swing states where Biden won.

“This bill will make it harder to convince people that they have the right to o*******w an e******n,” Lofgren said.

The legislation would increase the threshold for individual lawmakers’ objections to any state's e*******l v**es, requiring a third of the House and a third of the Senate to object to trigger v**es on the results in both chambers. Currently, only one lawmaker in the House and one lawmaker in the Senate has to object. The House bill would set out very narrow grounds for those objections, an attempt to thwart baseless or politically motivated challenges.

In addition, the bill would require courts to get involved if state or local officials want to delay a p**********l v**e or refuse to certify the results.

The House v**e comes as the Senate is moving on a similar track with enough Republican support to virtually ensure passage before the end of the year. After months of talks, House Democrats introduced their legislation Monday and held the quick v**e two days later in order to send the bill across the Capitol and start to resolve differences. A bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation this summer and a Senate committee is expected to v**e on it next week.

While the House bill is more expansive than the Senate version, the two bills cover similar ground and members in both chambers are optimistic that they can work out the differences. And despite the mostly party-line v**e in the House, supporters are encouraged by the bipartisan effort in the Senate.

“Both sides have an incentive to want a set of clear rules, and this is an antiquated law that no one understands,” said Benjamin Ginsburg, a longtime GOP lawyer who consulted with lawmakers as they wrote the bill. “All parties benefit from clarity.”

House GOP leaders encouraged their members to v**e against the legislation. They said the involvement of courts could d**g out e******ns and said the bill would take rights away from states.

The bill is an “attempt to federalize our e******ns,” Rep. Guy Reschenthaler, R-Pa., said on the House floor. He argued that v**ers are more focused on the economy and other issues than e******ns law.

“In my area of Pennsylvania, nobody is talking about this," Reschenthaler said.

Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, Lofgren’s GOP counterpart on the House Administration Committee, said Democrats are “desperately trying to talk about their favorite topic, and that is former President Donald Trump."

Democrats said the bill was not only a response to Trump, but also a way to prevent objections and mischief from all candidates in the future.

“If you think that this legislation is an attack on President Trump, you simply haven’t read the legislation because there’s nothing in there attacking President Trump,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., another member of the J*** 6 panel. “This is about reforming the E*******l Count Act so it works for the American people.”

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., was blunter. He criticized Republicans who have defended Trump's actions that day and who have downplayed the seriousness of the former president's attempts to overturn the results of the e******n.

Hoyer called the Republican opposition a “rationalization of what I believe is treason. ... It was rationalized then, and sadly it is being rationalized now.”

The nine Republicans who v**ed in support of the legislation are all either retiring or were defeated for ree******n in their GOP primaries this year. Eight of the nine v**ed for Trump's impeachment immediately after the i**********n.

The nine Republicans are Cheney and Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan, Peter Meijer of Michigan, Tom Rice of South Carolina, Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, John Katko of New York and Chris Jacobs of New York.

___

AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.
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Do you mind if I touch myself inappropriately while I read this i***tic garbage? Good!!! Cuz I'm gonna anyway.
Thinking of ya......... know that.

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Sep 22, 2022 06:57:56   #
Bevvy
 
336Robin wrote:
If Republicans are serious about e******n protection, then they will want to "really" protect the t******r of p***r and geolleeee, they don't appear to want to in the Senate. There is a reason for that. They want to play with the t******r of p***r.
: I



Associated Press

House passes e******n law overhaul in response to J*** 6 :

MARY CLARE JALONICK
Wed, September 21, 2022 at 12:03 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) — The House has passed legislation to overhaul the rules for certifying the results of a p**********l e******n as lawmakers accelerate their response to the J*** 6, 2021, i**********n and Donald Trump’s failed attempt to remain in power.

The bill, which is similar to bipartisan legislation moving through the Senate, would overhaul an arcane 1800s-era statute known as the E*******l Count Act that governs, along with the U.S. Constitution, how states and Congress certify e*****rs and declare p**********l e******n winners.

While that process has long been routine and ceremonial, Trump and a group of his aides and lawyers unsuccessfully tried to exploit loopholes in the law in an attempt to overturn his defeat to Joe Biden in the 2020 e******n. Democrats are pushing to pass the bill before the end of the year and ahead of the 2024 e******n cycle as Trump is considering another run.

While at least 10 GOP senators have signed on to the Senate version, the House v**e fell mostly along party lines. House Republicans — most of whom are still aligned with Trump — argued that the legislation shouldn't be a priority and that it is a political vehicle for Democrats ahead of November's midterm e******ns.

The final v**e was 229-203, with nine Republicans joining all Democrats in v****g for the bill. None of the nine Republicans is returning to Congress next year.

The legislation would set new parameters around the J*** 6 joint session of Congress that happens every four years after a p**********l e******n. The day turned violent last year after hundreds of Trump’s supporters interrupted the proceedings, broke into the building and threatened the lives of then-Vice President Mike Pence and members of Congress. The r****rs echoed Trump’s false claims of widespread fraud and wanted Pence to block Biden’s victory as he presided over the joint session.

The legislation intends to ensure that future J*** 6 sessions are “as the constitution envisioned, a ministerial day,” said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, a Republican who co-sponsored the legislation with House Administration Committee Chairwoman Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif. Both Cheney and Lofgren are also members of the House committee investigating the J*** 6 attack.

Ahead of the v**e, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the legislation is necessary as there have been attempts in states across the country to change e******n laws to make it easier to nullify future results.

“Now we have a solemn duty to ensure that future efforts to undermine our e******ns cannot succeed,” Pelosi said.

The bill would clarify in the law that the vice president’s role presiding over the count is only ceremonial and that he or she cannot change the results. It also sets out that each state can only send one certified set of e*****rs after Trump's allies had unsuccessfully tried to put together alternate slates of illegitimate pro-Trump e*****rs in swing states where Biden won.

“This bill will make it harder to convince people that they have the right to o*******w an e******n,” Lofgren said.

The legislation would increase the threshold for individual lawmakers’ objections to any state's e*******l v**es, requiring a third of the House and a third of the Senate to object to trigger v**es on the results in both chambers. Currently, only one lawmaker in the House and one lawmaker in the Senate has to object. The House bill would set out very narrow grounds for those objections, an attempt to thwart baseless or politically motivated challenges.

In addition, the bill would require courts to get involved if state or local officials want to delay a p**********l v**e or refuse to certify the results.

The House v**e comes as the Senate is moving on a similar track with enough Republican support to virtually ensure passage before the end of the year. After months of talks, House Democrats introduced their legislation Monday and held the quick v**e two days later in order to send the bill across the Capitol and start to resolve differences. A bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation this summer and a Senate committee is expected to v**e on it next week.

While the House bill is more expansive than the Senate version, the two bills cover similar ground and members in both chambers are optimistic that they can work out the differences. And despite the mostly party-line v**e in the House, supporters are encouraged by the bipartisan effort in the Senate.

“Both sides have an incentive to want a set of clear rules, and this is an antiquated law that no one understands,” said Benjamin Ginsburg, a longtime GOP lawyer who consulted with lawmakers as they wrote the bill. “All parties benefit from clarity.”

House GOP leaders encouraged their members to v**e against the legislation. They said the involvement of courts could d**g out e******ns and said the bill would take rights away from states.

The bill is an “attempt to federalize our e******ns,” Rep. Guy Reschenthaler, R-Pa., said on the House floor. He argued that v**ers are more focused on the economy and other issues than e******ns law.

“In my area of Pennsylvania, nobody is talking about this," Reschenthaler said.

Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, Lofgren’s GOP counterpart on the House Administration Committee, said Democrats are “desperately trying to talk about their favorite topic, and that is former President Donald Trump."

Democrats said the bill was not only a response to Trump, but also a way to prevent objections and mischief from all candidates in the future.

“If you think that this legislation is an attack on President Trump, you simply haven’t read the legislation because there’s nothing in there attacking President Trump,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., another member of the J*** 6 panel. “This is about reforming the E*******l Count Act so it works for the American people.”

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., was blunter. He criticized Republicans who have defended Trump's actions that day and who have downplayed the seriousness of the former president's attempts to overturn the results of the e******n.

Hoyer called the Republican opposition a “rationalization of what I believe is treason. ... It was rationalized then, and sadly it is being rationalized now.”

The nine Republicans who v**ed in support of the legislation are all either retiring or were defeated for ree******n in their GOP primaries this year. Eight of the nine v**ed for Trump's impeachment immediately after the i**********n.

The nine Republicans are Cheney and Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan, Peter Meijer of Michigan, Tom Rice of South Carolina, Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, John Katko of New York and Chris Jacobs of New York.

___

AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.
B If Republicans are serious about e******n pr... (show quote)


The nine Republicans who v**ed in support of the legislation are all either retiring or were defeated for ree******n in their GOP primaries this year.

I need to know NO more than Cheney v****g for this trash to know it is nothing but trash . Cheney has never been a republican

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Sep 22, 2022 11:49:27   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
336Robin wrote:
If Republicans are serious about e******n protection, then they will want to "really" protect the t******r of p***r and geolleeee, they don't appear to want to in the Senate. There is a reason for that. They want to play with the t******r of p***r.
: I



Associated Press

House passes e******n law overhaul in response to J*** 6 :

MARY CLARE JALONICK
Wed, September 21, 2022 at 12:03 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) — The House has passed legislation to overhaul the rules for certifying the results of a p**********l e******n as lawmakers accelerate their response to the J*** 6, 2021, i**********n and Donald Trump’s failed attempt to remain in power.

The bill, which is similar to bipartisan legislation moving through the Senate, would overhaul an arcane 1800s-era statute known as the E*******l Count Act that governs, along with the U.S. Constitution, how states and Congress certify e*****rs and declare p**********l e******n winners.

While that process has long been routine and ceremonial, Trump and a group of his aides and lawyers unsuccessfully tried to exploit loopholes in the law in an attempt to overturn his defeat to Joe Biden in the 2020 e******n. Democrats are pushing to pass the bill before the end of the year and ahead of the 2024 e******n cycle as Trump is considering another run.

While at least 10 GOP senators have signed on to the Senate version, the House v**e fell mostly along party lines. House Republicans — most of whom are still aligned with Trump — argued that the legislation shouldn't be a priority and that it is a political vehicle for Democrats ahead of November's midterm e******ns.

The final v**e was 229-203, with nine Republicans joining all Democrats in v****g for the bill. None of the nine Republicans is returning to Congress next year.

The legislation would set new parameters around the J*** 6 joint session of Congress that happens every four years after a p**********l e******n. The day turned violent last year after hundreds of Trump’s supporters interrupted the proceedings, broke into the building and threatened the lives of then-Vice President Mike Pence and members of Congress. The r****rs echoed Trump’s false claims of widespread fraud and wanted Pence to block Biden’s victory as he presided over the joint session.

The legislation intends to ensure that future J*** 6 sessions are “as the constitution envisioned, a ministerial day,” said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, a Republican who co-sponsored the legislation with House Administration Committee Chairwoman Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif. Both Cheney and Lofgren are also members of the House committee investigating the J*** 6 attack.

Ahead of the v**e, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the legislation is necessary as there have been attempts in states across the country to change e******n laws to make it easier to nullify future results.

“Now we have a solemn duty to ensure that future efforts to undermine our e******ns cannot succeed,” Pelosi said.

The bill would clarify in the law that the vice president’s role presiding over the count is only ceremonial and that he or she cannot change the results. It also sets out that each state can only send one certified set of e*****rs after Trump's allies had unsuccessfully tried to put together alternate slates of illegitimate pro-Trump e*****rs in swing states where Biden won.

“This bill will make it harder to convince people that they have the right to o*******w an e******n,” Lofgren said.

The legislation would increase the threshold for individual lawmakers’ objections to any state's e*******l v**es, requiring a third of the House and a third of the Senate to object to trigger v**es on the results in both chambers. Currently, only one lawmaker in the House and one lawmaker in the Senate has to object. The House bill would set out very narrow grounds for those objections, an attempt to thwart baseless or politically motivated challenges.

In addition, the bill would require courts to get involved if state or local officials want to delay a p**********l v**e or refuse to certify the results.

The House v**e comes as the Senate is moving on a similar track with enough Republican support to virtually ensure passage before the end of the year. After months of talks, House Democrats introduced their legislation Monday and held the quick v**e two days later in order to send the bill across the Capitol and start to resolve differences. A bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation this summer and a Senate committee is expected to v**e on it next week.

While the House bill is more expansive than the Senate version, the two bills cover similar ground and members in both chambers are optimistic that they can work out the differences. And despite the mostly party-line v**e in the House, supporters are encouraged by the bipartisan effort in the Senate.

“Both sides have an incentive to want a set of clear rules, and this is an antiquated law that no one understands,” said Benjamin Ginsburg, a longtime GOP lawyer who consulted with lawmakers as they wrote the bill. “All parties benefit from clarity.”

House GOP leaders encouraged their members to v**e against the legislation. They said the involvement of courts could d**g out e******ns and said the bill would take rights away from states.

The bill is an “attempt to federalize our e******ns,” Rep. Guy Reschenthaler, R-Pa., said on the House floor. He argued that v**ers are more focused on the economy and other issues than e******ns law.

“In my area of Pennsylvania, nobody is talking about this," Reschenthaler said.

Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, Lofgren’s GOP counterpart on the House Administration Committee, said Democrats are “desperately trying to talk about their favorite topic, and that is former President Donald Trump."

Democrats said the bill was not only a response to Trump, but also a way to prevent objections and mischief from all candidates in the future.

“If you think that this legislation is an attack on President Trump, you simply haven’t read the legislation because there’s nothing in there attacking President Trump,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., another member of the J*** 6 panel. “This is about reforming the E*******l Count Act so it works for the American people.”

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., was blunter. He criticized Republicans who have defended Trump's actions that day and who have downplayed the seriousness of the former president's attempts to overturn the results of the e******n.

Hoyer called the Republican opposition a “rationalization of what I believe is treason. ... It was rationalized then, and sadly it is being rationalized now.”

The nine Republicans who v**ed in support of the legislation are all either retiring or were defeated for ree******n in their GOP primaries this year. Eight of the nine v**ed for Trump's impeachment immediately after the i**********n.

The nine Republicans are Cheney and Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan, Peter Meijer of Michigan, Tom Rice of South Carolina, Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, John Katko of New York and Chris Jacobs of New York.

___

AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.
B If Republicans are serious about e******n pr... (show quote)


If all v****g, except for military members, was in person with identification,....there WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.
But youz just can't have a honest game.
You have to be the banker in c***ters monopoly. It's THAT SIMPLE!!

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Sep 23, 2022 08:08:01   #
elledee
 
336Robin wrote:
If Republicans are serious about e******n protection, then they will want to "really" protect the t******r of p***r and geolleeee, they don't appear to want to in the Senate. There is a reason for that. They want to play with the t******r of p***r.
: I



Associated Press

House passes e******n law overhaul in response to J*** 6 :

MARY CLARE JALONICK
Wed, September 21, 2022 at 12:03 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) — The House has passed legislation to overhaul the rules for certifying the results of a p**********l e******n as lawmakers accelerate their response to the J*** 6, 2021, i**********n and Donald Trump’s failed attempt to remain in power.

The bill, which is similar to bipartisan legislation moving through the Senate, would overhaul an arcane 1800s-era statute known as the E*******l Count Act that governs, along with the U.S. Constitution, how states and Congress certify e*****rs and declare p**********l e******n winners.

While that process has long been routine and ceremonial, Trump and a group of his aides and lawyers unsuccessfully tried to exploit loopholes in the law in an attempt to overturn his defeat to Joe Biden in the 2020 e******n. Democrats are pushing to pass the bill before the end of the year and ahead of the 2024 e******n cycle as Trump is considering another run.

While at least 10 GOP senators have signed on to the Senate version, the House v**e fell mostly along party lines. House Republicans — most of whom are still aligned with Trump — argued that the legislation shouldn't be a priority and that it is a political vehicle for Democrats ahead of November's midterm e******ns.

The final v**e was 229-203, with nine Republicans joining all Democrats in v****g for the bill. None of the nine Republicans is returning to Congress next year.

The legislation would set new parameters around the J*** 6 joint session of Congress that happens every four years after a p**********l e******n. The day turned violent last year after hundreds of Trump’s supporters interrupted the proceedings, broke into the building and threatened the lives of then-Vice President Mike Pence and members of Congress. The r****rs echoed Trump’s false claims of widespread fraud and wanted Pence to block Biden’s victory as he presided over the joint session.

The legislation intends to ensure that future J*** 6 sessions are “as the constitution envisioned, a ministerial day,” said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, a Republican who co-sponsored the legislation with House Administration Committee Chairwoman Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif. Both Cheney and Lofgren are also members of the House committee investigating the J*** 6 attack.

Ahead of the v**e, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the legislation is necessary as there have been attempts in states across the country to change e******n laws to make it easier to nullify future results.

“Now we have a solemn duty to ensure that future efforts to undermine our e******ns cannot succeed,” Pelosi said.

The bill would clarify in the law that the vice president’s role presiding over the count is only ceremonial and that he or she cannot change the results. It also sets out that each state can only send one certified set of e*****rs after Trump's allies had unsuccessfully tried to put together alternate slates of illegitimate pro-Trump e*****rs in swing states where Biden won.

“This bill will make it harder to convince people that they have the right to o*******w an e******n,” Lofgren said.

The legislation would increase the threshold for individual lawmakers’ objections to any state's e*******l v**es, requiring a third of the House and a third of the Senate to object to trigger v**es on the results in both chambers. Currently, only one lawmaker in the House and one lawmaker in the Senate has to object. The House bill would set out very narrow grounds for those objections, an attempt to thwart baseless or politically motivated challenges.

In addition, the bill would require courts to get involved if state or local officials want to delay a p**********l v**e or refuse to certify the results.

The House v**e comes as the Senate is moving on a similar track with enough Republican support to virtually ensure passage before the end of the year. After months of talks, House Democrats introduced their legislation Monday and held the quick v**e two days later in order to send the bill across the Capitol and start to resolve differences. A bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation this summer and a Senate committee is expected to v**e on it next week.

While the House bill is more expansive than the Senate version, the two bills cover similar ground and members in both chambers are optimistic that they can work out the differences. And despite the mostly party-line v**e in the House, supporters are encouraged by the bipartisan effort in the Senate.

“Both sides have an incentive to want a set of clear rules, and this is an antiquated law that no one understands,” said Benjamin Ginsburg, a longtime GOP lawyer who consulted with lawmakers as they wrote the bill. “All parties benefit from clarity.”

House GOP leaders encouraged their members to v**e against the legislation. They said the involvement of courts could d**g out e******ns and said the bill would take rights away from states.

The bill is an “attempt to federalize our e******ns,” Rep. Guy Reschenthaler, R-Pa., said on the House floor. He argued that v**ers are more focused on the economy and other issues than e******ns law.

“In my area of Pennsylvania, nobody is talking about this," Reschenthaler said.

Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, Lofgren’s GOP counterpart on the House Administration Committee, said Democrats are “desperately trying to talk about their favorite topic, and that is former President Donald Trump."

Democrats said the bill was not only a response to Trump, but also a way to prevent objections and mischief from all candidates in the future.

“If you think that this legislation is an attack on President Trump, you simply haven’t read the legislation because there’s nothing in there attacking President Trump,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., another member of the J*** 6 panel. “This is about reforming the E*******l Count Act so it works for the American people.”

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., was blunter. He criticized Republicans who have defended Trump's actions that day and who have downplayed the seriousness of the former president's attempts to overturn the results of the e******n.

Hoyer called the Republican opposition a “rationalization of what I believe is treason. ... It was rationalized then, and sadly it is being rationalized now.”

The nine Republicans who v**ed in support of the legislation are all either retiring or were defeated for ree******n in their GOP primaries this year. Eight of the nine v**ed for Trump's impeachment immediately after the i**********n.

The nine Republicans are Cheney and Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan, Peter Meijer of Michigan, Tom Rice of South Carolina, Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, John Katko of New York and Chris Jacobs of New York.

___

AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.
B If Republicans are serious about e******n pr... (show quote)


Yes the AP a division of the demonrat party

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Sep 23, 2022 09:28:27   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
336Robin wrote:
If Republicans are serious about e******n protection, then they will want to "really" protect the t******r of p***r and geolleeee, they don't appear to want to in the Senate. There is a reason for that. They want to play with the t******r of p***r.
: I



Associated Press

House passes e******n law overhaul in response to J*** 6 :

MARY CLARE JALONICK
Wed, September 21, 2022 at 12:03 AM


WASHINGTON (AP) — The House has passed legislation to overhaul the rules for certifying the results of a p**********l e******n as lawmakers accelerate their response to the J*** 6, 2021, i**********n and Donald Trump’s failed attempt to remain in power.

The bill, which is similar to bipartisan legislation moving through the Senate, would overhaul an arcane 1800s-era statute known as the E*******l Count Act that governs, along with the U.S. Constitution, how states and Congress certify e*****rs and declare p**********l e******n winners.

While that process has long been routine and ceremonial, Trump and a group of his aides and lawyers unsuccessfully tried to exploit loopholes in the law in an attempt to overturn his defeat to Joe Biden in the 2020 e******n. Democrats are pushing to pass the bill before the end of the year and ahead of the 2024 e******n cycle as Trump is considering another run.

While at least 10 GOP senators have signed on to the Senate version, the House v**e fell mostly along party lines. House Republicans — most of whom are still aligned with Trump — argued that the legislation shouldn't be a priority and that it is a political vehicle for Democrats ahead of November's midterm e******ns.

The final v**e was 229-203, with nine Republicans joining all Democrats in v****g for the bill. None of the nine Republicans is returning to Congress next year.

The legislation would set new parameters around the J*** 6 joint session of Congress that happens every four years after a p**********l e******n. The day turned violent last year after hundreds of Trump’s supporters interrupted the proceedings, broke into the building and threatened the lives of then-Vice President Mike Pence and members of Congress. The r****rs echoed Trump’s false claims of widespread fraud and wanted Pence to block Biden’s victory as he presided over the joint session.

The legislation intends to ensure that future J*** 6 sessions are “as the constitution envisioned, a ministerial day,” said Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney, a Republican who co-sponsored the legislation with House Administration Committee Chairwoman Zoe Lofgren, D-Calif. Both Cheney and Lofgren are also members of the House committee investigating the J*** 6 attack.

Ahead of the v**e, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the legislation is necessary as there have been attempts in states across the country to change e******n laws to make it easier to nullify future results.

“Now we have a solemn duty to ensure that future efforts to undermine our e******ns cannot succeed,” Pelosi said.

The bill would clarify in the law that the vice president’s role presiding over the count is only ceremonial and that he or she cannot change the results. It also sets out that each state can only send one certified set of e*****rs after Trump's allies had unsuccessfully tried to put together alternate slates of illegitimate pro-Trump e*****rs in swing states where Biden won.

“This bill will make it harder to convince people that they have the right to o*******w an e******n,” Lofgren said.

The legislation would increase the threshold for individual lawmakers’ objections to any state's e*******l v**es, requiring a third of the House and a third of the Senate to object to trigger v**es on the results in both chambers. Currently, only one lawmaker in the House and one lawmaker in the Senate has to object. The House bill would set out very narrow grounds for those objections, an attempt to thwart baseless or politically motivated challenges.

In addition, the bill would require courts to get involved if state or local officials want to delay a p**********l v**e or refuse to certify the results.

The House v**e comes as the Senate is moving on a similar track with enough Republican support to virtually ensure passage before the end of the year. After months of talks, House Democrats introduced their legislation Monday and held the quick v**e two days later in order to send the bill across the Capitol and start to resolve differences. A bipartisan group of senators introduced legislation this summer and a Senate committee is expected to v**e on it next week.

While the House bill is more expansive than the Senate version, the two bills cover similar ground and members in both chambers are optimistic that they can work out the differences. And despite the mostly party-line v**e in the House, supporters are encouraged by the bipartisan effort in the Senate.

“Both sides have an incentive to want a set of clear rules, and this is an antiquated law that no one understands,” said Benjamin Ginsburg, a longtime GOP lawyer who consulted with lawmakers as they wrote the bill. “All parties benefit from clarity.”

House GOP leaders encouraged their members to v**e against the legislation. They said the involvement of courts could d**g out e******ns and said the bill would take rights away from states.

The bill is an “attempt to federalize our e******ns,” Rep. Guy Reschenthaler, R-Pa., said on the House floor. He argued that v**ers are more focused on the economy and other issues than e******ns law.

“In my area of Pennsylvania, nobody is talking about this," Reschenthaler said.

Illinois Rep. Rodney Davis, Lofgren’s GOP counterpart on the House Administration Committee, said Democrats are “desperately trying to talk about their favorite topic, and that is former President Donald Trump."

Democrats said the bill was not only a response to Trump, but also a way to prevent objections and mischief from all candidates in the future.

“If you think that this legislation is an attack on President Trump, you simply haven’t read the legislation because there’s nothing in there attacking President Trump,” said Rep. Jamie Raskin, D-Md., another member of the J*** 6 panel. “This is about reforming the E*******l Count Act so it works for the American people.”

House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., was blunter. He criticized Republicans who have defended Trump's actions that day and who have downplayed the seriousness of the former president's attempts to overturn the results of the e******n.

Hoyer called the Republican opposition a “rationalization of what I believe is treason. ... It was rationalized then, and sadly it is being rationalized now.”

The nine Republicans who v**ed in support of the legislation are all either retiring or were defeated for ree******n in their GOP primaries this year. Eight of the nine v**ed for Trump's impeachment immediately after the i**********n.

The nine Republicans are Cheney and Reps. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, Fred Upton of Michigan, Peter Meijer of Michigan, Tom Rice of South Carolina, Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington, Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio, John Katko of New York and Chris Jacobs of New York.

___

AP Congressional Correspondent Lisa Mascaro contributed to this report.
B If Republicans are serious about e******n pr... (show quote)

Protect e******ns defeat demonrats! Audit the v**e!

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Sep 23, 2022 09:30:08   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Any e******n law passed by Democrats will be to their advantage to manipulate the results or they would not do it.


Exactly! They rename their blatant previous attempts to manipulate the v**e and pretent like it’s a new approach!

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Sep 23, 2022 09:31:36   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
Bevvy wrote:
The nine Republicans who v**ed in support of the legislation are all either retiring or were defeated for ree******n in their GOP primaries this year.

I need to know NO more than Cheney v****g for this trash to know it is nothing but trash . Cheney has never been a republican

Exactly they are just getting even! Disgruntled employees!!!

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