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Nov 6, 2014 06:22:03   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
November 5, 2014 by John Myers – Personal Liberty Digest
“I’m proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me.” — Apple CEO Tim Cook, October 2014

The headline above is borrowed from Proverbs 16:18, so I take no p***e in having written it. Yet p***e has been discussed much this past week, mostly gay p***e because of Tim Cook’s statement about something very personal. It got me to thinking: What can I be really p***eful of or, more importantly, why are some people so p***eful for no other reason than they are simply different?

Let’s start with superfluous, and what could be wasted, p***e that I harbor. I won a footrace once and was proud of that until the next week, when at the regionals I finished second last. I was named captain of our junior varsity football team that then went on to lose every game that season. Also, I graduated from an OK university but have an older brother with three degrees with distinction, all from better universities. I am a proud father and even a proud grandfather. It is such p***e as this that is so universal I probably share it with almost a billion men on the planet.

I never invented anything, I never joined the army and the closest I came to combat was watching CBS’s Dan Rather cover the Vietnam War. Except for getting a kitten out of a tree, I’ve never saved a life. I have always taken p***e in my work; but taking p***e in one’s vocation, family and heritage is different than being p***eful. Among those who are p***eful are the braggarts in the investment arena, where people shine because they harp on every winner they ever called but have amnesia over their many blunders.

I take p***e in being an American — far more because of what America used to represent half a century ago than what it represents today. We are at a point in time where the nation has $17 trillion in federal debt; we occupy one country and will likely become involved in combat in two other countries; and it’s very possible an economic recession may arrive soon.

In the end, I want to believe America eventually does the right thing. But being a proud American is different from the “self-p***e” that brims up in minority groups, especially those that feel they have been wronged. There is gay p***e, black p***e, white p***e. You name a group that feels disconnected from the mainstream, and you will find people “belong” to it with p***e.

My gay p***e ride
The subtitle above is just a tease. The only time I come out of the closet is when I have grabbed some clean clothes. But I was driving downtown a year ago and was caught in the city’s gay p***e parade. Ahead of me in the heart of downtown Calgary was a pink Cadillac convertible bedecked with men in dresses and lingerie that were far too revealing for even attractive women to be wearing in public. One looked like a combination of Lucille Ball and Ricky Ricardo. They had fixed a giant banner to the back bumper that read: “CELEBRATING GAY P***E!”

I am a Libertarian. You will never find me go off on a rant on homosexuals because of how they express their sexuality behind closed doors. I will argue for the rights of all consenting adults to do wh**ever they wish with a modicum of discretion, just as we straight teenage boys had to act when we introduced a girl who was a close friend to our parents. That said, I couldn’t stop gawking at the men acting shamelessly. I laughed and thought how proud their mothers must be.

But based on brains, ability and personal wealth, I have been trumped on my Victorian-like dismissal of what gay p***e means. Cook, no less than the CEO of Apple and the man at the helm of one of the most innovative companies in the world, has declared he is gay and damn proud of it. Given all the credits that must fill his resume, this would hardly make it on most people’s list — especially since being gay or straight is something most people acknowledge as a non-choice but rather the way we are born.

My question is this: If the gay lobby and the medical community are correct and people are born to fall in love with people of the same sex, why then are they proud? I was born to fall in love with people of the opposite sex. So random is that event in which I had zero influence that I have more p***e regarding that footrace I won as a kid than I do regarding my being a heterosexual.

P***e: The vilest of the seven deadly sins
It was p***e that created Satan, who had once been God’s greatest creation. And to this day, not much good comes from p***e, especially p***e stemming from a group that creates separateness from other members of society. You see it with a great many groups, and it indicates a fracturing of America.

People used to take p***e in their accomplishments and not in themselves. I think the men and women who built America’s industrial pre-eminence must have felt a lot of p***e, not perhaps so much in what they did as individuals but rather with what they helped build with others. It was a collective p***e, not an individual p***e.

What is America creating these days besides more debt and more fiat dollars? It is hard to be proud of only that. Perhaps that is why so many people fill up with a false p***e, which only further divides the nation and forces America to accumulate ever greater debts and print ever more money. And around it goes until there is nothing at all left to be proud of.

Yours in good times and bad,
–John Myers

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Nov 6, 2014 06:39:27   #
stan3186
 
mwdegutis wrote:
November 5, 2014 by John Myers – Personal Liberty Digest
“I’m proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me.” — Apple CEO Tim Cook, October 2014

The headline above is borrowed from Proverbs 16:18, so I take no p***e in having written it. Yet p***e has been discussed much this past week, mostly gay p***e because of Tim Cook’s statement about something very personal. It got me to thinking: What can I be really p***eful of or, more importantly, why are some people so p***eful for no other reason than they are simply different?

Let’s start with superfluous, and what could be wasted, p***e that I harbor. I won a footrace once and was proud of that until the next week, when at the regionals I finished second last. I was named captain of our junior varsity football team that then went on to lose every game that season. Also, I graduated from an OK university but have an older brother with three degrees with distinction, all from better universities. I am a proud father and even a proud grandfather. It is such p***e as this that is so universal I probably share it with almost a billion men on the planet.

I never invented anything, I never joined the army and the closest I came to combat was watching CBS’s Dan Rather cover the Vietnam War. Except for getting a kitten out of a tree, I’ve never saved a life. I have always taken p***e in my work; but taking p***e in one’s vocation, family and heritage is different than being p***eful. Among those who are p***eful are the braggarts in the investment arena, where people shine because they harp on every winner they ever called but have amnesia over their many blunders.

I take p***e in being an American — far more because of what America used to represent half a century ago than what it represents today. We are at a point in time where the nation has $17 trillion in federal debt; we occupy one country and will likely become involved in combat in two other countries; and it’s very possible an economic recession may arrive soon.

In the end, I want to believe America eventually does the right thing. But being a proud American is different from the “self-p***e” that brims up in minority groups, especially those that feel they have been wronged. There is gay p***e, black p***e, white p***e. You name a group that feels disconnected from the mainstream, and you will find people “belong” to it with p***e.

My gay p***e ride
The subtitle above is just a tease. The only time I come out of the closet is when I have grabbed some clean clothes. But I was driving downtown a year ago and was caught in the city’s gay p***e parade. Ahead of me in the heart of downtown Calgary was a pink Cadillac convertible bedecked with men in dresses and lingerie that were far too revealing for even attractive women to be wearing in public. One looked like a combination of Lucille Ball and Ricky Ricardo. They had fixed a giant banner to the back bumper that read: “CELEBRATING GAY P***E!”

I am a Libertarian. You will never find me go off on a rant on homosexuals because of how they express their sexuality behind closed doors. I will argue for the rights of all consenting adults to do wh**ever they wish with a modicum of discretion, just as we straight teenage boys had to act when we introduced a girl who was a close friend to our parents. That said, I couldn’t stop gawking at the men acting shamelessly. I laughed and thought how proud their mothers must be.

But based on brains, ability and personal wealth, I have been trumped on my Victorian-like dismissal of what gay p***e means. Cook, no less than the CEO of Apple and the man at the helm of one of the most innovative companies in the world, has declared he is gay and damn proud of it. Given all the credits that must fill his resume, this would hardly make it on most people’s list — especially since being gay or straight is something most people acknowledge as a non-choice but rather the way we are born.

My question is this: If the gay lobby and the medical community are correct and people are born to fall in love with people of the same sex, why then are they proud? I was born to fall in love with people of the opposite sex. So random is that event in which I had zero influence that I have more p***e regarding that footrace I won as a kid than I do regarding my being a heterosexual.

P***e: The vilest of the seven deadly sins
It was p***e that created Satan, who had once been God’s greatest creation. And to this day, not much good comes from p***e, especially p***e stemming from a group that creates separateness from other members of society. You see it with a great many groups, and it indicates a fracturing of America.

People used to take p***e in their accomplishments and not in themselves. I think the men and women who built America’s industrial pre-eminence must have felt a lot of p***e, not perhaps so much in what they did as individuals but rather with what they helped build with others. It was a collective p***e, not an individual p***e.

What is America creating these days besides more debt and more fiat dollars? It is hard to be proud of only that. Perhaps that is why so many people fill up with a false p***e, which only further divides the nation and forces America to accumulate ever greater debts and print ever more money. And around it goes until there is nothing at all left to be proud of.

Yours in good times and bad,
–John Myers
b November 5, 2014 by John Myers – Personal Liber... (show quote)


Of all the things he listed the ONLY thing to take p***e in is his children and grandchildren. I am assuming that he helped to raise those children to be righteous and to do the right things and to treat people with respect. Everything else is happenstance mostly. Some accomplishments can make a person p***eful but for the most part, it is happenstance. Right place, right time, just plain lucky. Maybe being able to recognize an opportunity and take advantage of it, but nothing one really did to be particularly p***eful of. Take p***e in your children if they do well, but take p***e in them even if they don't. They, after all, are the only things that you can be actually p***eful of that were of your influence more than anything else.

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Nov 6, 2014 08:03:07   #
MarvinSussman
 
mwdegutis wrote:
November 5, 2014 by John Myers – Personal Liberty Digest
“I’m proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me.” — Apple CEO Tim Cook, October 2014

The headline above is borrowed from Proverbs 16:18, so I take no p***e in having written it. Yet p***e has been discussed much this past week, mostly gay p***e because of Tim Cook’s statement about something very personal. It got me to thinking: What can I be really p***eful of or, more importantly, why are some people so p***eful for no other reason than they are simply different?

Let’s start with superfluous, and what could be wasted, p***e that I harbor. I won a footrace once and was proud of that until the next week, when at the regionals I finished second last. I was named captain of our junior varsity football team that then went on to lose every game that season. Also, I graduated from an OK university but have an older brother with three degrees with distinction, all from better universities. I am a proud father and even a proud grandfather. It is such p***e as this that is so universal I probably share it with almost a billion men on the planet.

I never invented anything, I never joined the army and the closest I came to combat was watching CBS’s Dan Rather cover the Vietnam War. Except for getting a kitten out of a tree, I’ve never saved a life. I have always taken p***e in my work; but taking p***e in one’s vocation, family and heritage is different than being p***eful. Among those who are p***eful are the braggarts in the investment arena, where people shine because they harp on every winner they ever called but have amnesia over their many blunders.

I take p***e in being an American — far more because of what America used to represent half a century ago than what it represents today. We are at a point in time where the nation has $17 trillion in federal debt; we occupy one country and will likely become involved in combat in two other countries; and it’s very possible an economic recession may arrive soon.

In the end, I want to believe America eventually does the right thing. But being a proud American is different from the “self-p***e” that brims up in minority groups, especially those that feel they have been wronged. There is gay p***e, black p***e, white p***e. You name a group that feels disconnected from the mainstream, and you will find people “belong” to it with p***e.

My gay p***e ride
The subtitle above is just a tease. The only time I come out of the closet is when I have grabbed some clean clothes. But I was driving downtown a year ago and was caught in the city’s gay p***e parade. Ahead of me in the heart of downtown Calgary was a pink Cadillac convertible bedecked with men in dresses and lingerie that were far too revealing for even attractive women to be wearing in public. One looked like a combination of Lucille Ball and Ricky Ricardo. They had fixed a giant banner to the back bumper that read: “CELEBRATING GAY P***E!”

I am a Libertarian. You will never find me go off on a rant on homosexuals because of how they express their sexuality behind closed doors. I will argue for the rights of all consenting adults to do wh**ever they wish with a modicum of discretion, just as we straight teenage boys had to act when we introduced a girl who was a close friend to our parents. That said, I couldn’t stop gawking at the men acting shamelessly. I laughed and thought how proud their mothers must be.

But based on brains, ability and personal wealth, I have been trumped on my Victorian-like dismissal of what gay p***e means. Cook, no less than the CEO of Apple and the man at the helm of one of the most innovative companies in the world, has declared he is gay and damn proud of it. Given all the credits that must fill his resume, this would hardly make it on most people’s list — especially since being gay or straight is something most people acknowledge as a non-choice but rather the way we are born.

My question is this: If the gay lobby and the medical community are correct and people are born to fall in love with people of the same sex, why then are they proud? I was born to fall in love with people of the opposite sex. So random is that event in which I had zero influence that I have more p***e regarding that footrace I won as a kid than I do regarding my being a heterosexual.

P***e: The vilest of the seven deadly sins
It was p***e that created Satan, who had once been God’s greatest creation. And to this day, not much good comes from p***e, especially p***e stemming from a group that creates separateness from other members of society. You see it with a great many groups, and it indicates a fracturing of America.

People used to take p***e in their accomplishments and not in themselves. I think the men and women who built America’s industrial pre-eminence must have felt a lot of p***e, not perhaps so much in what they did as individuals but rather with what they helped build with others. It was a collective p***e, not an individual p***e.

What is America creating these days besides more debt and more fiat dollars? It is hard to be proud of only that. Perhaps that is why so many people fill up with a false p***e, which only further divides the nation and forces America to accumulate ever greater debts and print ever more money. And around it goes until there is nothing at all left to be proud of.

Yours in good times and bad,
–John Myers
b November 5, 2014 by John Myers – Personal Liber... (show quote)


I agree that we should be proud of our own accomplishments and not of our parents' accomplishments: our births and development toward functioning citizenship. However, looking around for a word to replace "p***e" in the phrase "gay p***e", I come up short trying to express this very natural yearning for e******y and authenticity. There are other words but they don't seem to do the job as well.

This could be my fault. Why don't you give it a try?

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Nov 6, 2014 08:26:01   #
imbobbyc Loc: Montana
 
mwdegutis wrote:
November 5, 2014 by John Myers – Personal Liberty Digest
“I’m proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me.” — Apple CEO Tim Cook, October 2014

The headline above is borrowed from Proverbs 16:18, so I take no p***e in having written it. Yet p***e has been discussed much this past week, mostly gay p***e because of Tim Cook’s statement about something very personal. It got me to thinking: What can I be really p***eful of or, more importantly, why are some people so p***eful for no other reason than they are simply different?

Let’s start with superfluous, and what could be wasted, p***e that I harbor. I won a footrace once and was proud of that until the next week, when at the regionals I finished second last. I was named captain of our junior varsity football team that then went on to lose every game that season. Also, I graduated from an OK university but have an older brother with three degrees with distinction, all from better universities. I am a proud father and even a proud grandfather. It is such p***e as this that is so universal I probably share it with almost a billion men on the planet.

I never invented anything, I never joined the army and the closest I came to combat was watching CBS’s Dan Rather cover the Vietnam War. Except for getting a kitten out of a tree, I’ve never saved a life. I have always taken p***e in my work; but taking p***e in one’s vocation, family and heritage is different than being p***eful. Among those who are p***eful are the braggarts in the investment arena, where people shine because they harp on every winner they ever called but have amnesia over their many blunders.

I take p***e in being an American — far more because of what America used to represent half a century ago than what it represents today. We are at a point in time where the nation has $17 trillion in federal debt; we occupy one country and will likely become involved in combat in two other countries; and it’s very possible an economic recession may arrive soon.

In the end, I want to believe America eventually does the right thing. But being a proud American is different from the “self-p***e” that brims up in minority groups, especially those that feel they have been wronged. There is gay p***e, black p***e, white p***e. You name a group that feels disconnected from the mainstream, and you will find people “belong” to it with p***e.

My gay p***e ride
The subtitle above is just a tease. The only time I come out of the closet is when I have grabbed some clean clothes. But I was driving downtown a year ago and was caught in the city’s gay p***e parade. Ahead of me in the heart of downtown Calgary was a pink Cadillac convertible bedecked with men in dresses and lingerie that were far too revealing for even attractive women to be wearing in public. One looked like a combination of Lucille Ball and Ricky Ricardo. They had fixed a giant banner to the back bumper that read: “CELEBRATING GAY P***E!”

I am a Libertarian. You will never find me go off on a rant on homosexuals because of how they express their sexuality behind closed doors. I will argue for the rights of all consenting adults to do wh**ever they wish with a modicum of discretion, just as we straight teenage boys had to act when we introduced a girl who was a close friend to our parents. That said, I couldn’t stop gawking at the men acting shamelessly. I laughed and thought how proud their mothers must be.

But based on brains, ability and personal wealth, I have been trumped on my Victorian-like dismissal of what gay p***e means. Cook, no less than the CEO of Apple and the man at the helm of one of the most innovative companies in the world, has declared he is gay and damn proud of it. Given all the credits that must fill his resume, this would hardly make it on most people’s list — especially since being gay or straight is something most people acknowledge as a non-choice but rather the way we are born.

My question is this: If the gay lobby and the medical community are correct and people are born to fall in love with people of the same sex, why then are they proud? I was born to fall in love with people of the opposite sex. So random is that event in which I had zero influence that I have more p***e regarding that footrace I won as a kid than I do regarding my being a heterosexual.

P***e: The vilest of the seven deadly sins
It was p***e that created Satan, who had once been God’s greatest creation. And to this day, not much good comes from p***e, especially p***e stemming from a group that creates separateness from other members of society. You see it with a great many groups, and it indicates a fracturing of America.

People used to take p***e in their accomplishments and not in themselves. I think the men and women who built America’s industrial pre-eminence must have felt a lot of p***e, not perhaps so much in what they did as individuals but rather with what they helped build with others. It was a collective p***e, not an individual p***e.

What is America creating these days besides more debt and more fiat dollars? It is hard to be proud of only that. Perhaps that is why so many people fill up with a false p***e, which only further divides the nation and forces America to accumulate ever greater debts and print ever more money. And around it goes until there is nothing at all left to be proud of.

Yours in good times and bad,
–John Myers
b November 5, 2014 by John Myers – Personal Liber... (show quote)


Proverbs 16:18

“P***e goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.”

(King James Version)

Not the same as above.

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Nov 6, 2014 08:35:14   #
mcmlx
 
Homosexuals are equal, if not more because of their agenda. Nothing authentic about them, either. They've taken the word gay and tried to make it into something it's not. They have taken GOD'S rainbow and used it for a sign of their perverted lifestyle.
How about they call their p***e an a*********n?

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Nov 7, 2014 15:43:12   #
Neal
 
mcmlx wrote:
Homosexuals are equal, if not more because of their agenda. Nothing authentic about them, either. They've taken the word gay and tried to make it into something it's not. They have taken GOD'S rainbow and used it for a sign of their perverted lifestyle.
How about they call their p***e an a*********n?


Ooooooo! - another fundametalist . . .

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Nov 7, 2014 15:54:54   #
Neal
 
mwdegutis wrote:
November 5, 2014 by John Myers – Personal Liberty Digest
“I’m proud to be gay, and I consider being gay among the greatest gifts God has given me.” — Apple CEO Tim Cook, October 2014

The headline above is borrowed from Proverbs 16:18, so I take no p***e in having written it. Yet p***e has been discussed much this past week, mostly gay p***e because of Tim Cook’s statement about something very personal. It got me to thinking: What can I be really p***eful of or, more importantly, why are some people so p***eful for no other reason than they are simply different?

Let’s start with superfluous, and what could be wasted, p***e that I harbor. I won a footrace once and was proud of that until the next week, when at the regionals I finished second last. I was named captain of our junior varsity football team that then went on to lose every game that season. Also, I graduated from an OK university but have an older brother with three degrees with distinction, all from better universities. I am a proud father and even a proud grandfather. It is such p***e as this that is so universal I probably share it with almost a billion men on the planet.

I never invented anything, I never joined the army and the closest I came to combat was watching CBS’s Dan Rather cover the Vietnam War. Except for getting a kitten out of a tree, I’ve never saved a life. I have always taken p***e in my work; but taking p***e in one’s vocation, family and heritage is different than being p***eful. Among those who are p***eful are the braggarts in the investment arena, where people shine because they harp on every winner they ever called but have amnesia over their many blunders.

I take p***e in being an American — far more because of what America used to represent half a century ago than what it represents today. We are at a point in time where the nation has $17 trillion in federal debt; we occupy one country and will likely become involved in combat in two other countries; and it’s very possible an economic recession may arrive soon.

In the end, I want to believe America eventually does the right thing. But being a proud American is different from the “self-p***e” that brims up in minority groups, especially those that feel they have been wronged. There is gay p***e, black p***e, white p***e. You name a group that feels disconnected from the mainstream, and you will find people “belong” to it with p***e.

My gay p***e ride
The subtitle above is just a tease. The only time I come out of the closet is when I have grabbed some clean clothes. But I was driving downtown a year ago and was caught in the city’s gay p***e parade. Ahead of me in the heart of downtown Calgary was a pink Cadillac convertible bedecked with men in dresses and lingerie that were far too revealing for even attractive women to be wearing in public. One looked like a combination of Lucille Ball and Ricky Ricardo. They had fixed a giant banner to the back bumper that read: “CELEBRATING GAY P***E!”

I am a Libertarian. You will never find me go off on a rant on homosexuals because of how they express their sexuality behind closed doors. I will argue for the rights of all consenting adults to do wh**ever they wish with a modicum of discretion, just as we straight teenage boys had to act when we introduced a girl who was a close friend to our parents. That said, I couldn’t stop gawking at the men acting shamelessly. I laughed and thought how proud their mothers must be.

But based on brains, ability and personal wealth, I have been trumped on my Victorian-like dismissal of what gay p***e means. Cook, no less than the CEO of Apple and the man at the helm of one of the most innovative companies in the world, has declared he is gay and damn proud of it. Given all the credits that must fill his resume, this would hardly make it on most people’s list — especially since being gay or straight is something most people acknowledge as a non-choice but rather the way we are born.

My question is this: If the gay lobby and the medical community are correct and people are born to fall in love with people of the same sex, why then are they proud? I was born to fall in love with people of the opposite sex. So random is that event in which I had zero influence that I have more p***e regarding that footrace I won as a kid than I do regarding my being a heterosexual.

P***e: The vilest of the seven deadly sins
It was p***e that created Satan, who had once been God’s greatest creation. And to this day, not much good comes from p***e, especially p***e stemming from a group that creates separateness from other members of society. You see it with a great many groups, and it indicates a fracturing of America.

People used to take p***e in their accomplishments and not in themselves. I think the men and women who built America’s industrial pre-eminence must have felt a lot of p***e, not perhaps so much in what they did as individuals but rather with what they helped build with others. It was a collective p***e, not an individual p***e.

What is America creating these days besides more debt and more fiat dollars? It is hard to be proud of only that. Perhaps that is why so many people fill up with a false p***e, which only further divides the nation and forces America to accumulate ever greater debts and print ever more money. And around it goes until there is nothing at all left to be proud of.

Yours in good times and bad,
–John Myers
b November 5, 2014 by John Myers – Personal Liber... (show quote)


I dunno, John. Seems to me you're looking at too slender a slice of time commenting on 'gay p***e.' That expression is merely a multipurpose motto used by gay and lesbian society to further their cause. They want equal treatment with the rest of society, and now that they've made significant progress toward that goal, the motto will die out in a few years.

There are certain issues that have to be interpreted over a longish timetable to truly appreciate their complexities.

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