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Sep 12, 2022 12:06:25   #
PeterS
 
I just love what's capitalism and what's socialism to you cons and why you love one but have so much trouble with the other...



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Sep 12, 2022 12:12:34   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
PeterS wrote:
I just love what's capitalism and what's socialism to you cons and why you love one but have so much trouble with the other...


All are crony-capitalism and I'm against all of it.

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Sep 12, 2022 12:14:08   #
maureenthannon
 
Have you forgotten that it was the DEMOCRATS, during the Obama administration that said they had to give money to businesses that were "TOO BIG TO FAIL"? And POUS Obama received record amounts of MULT-MILLION DOLLAR POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS. These did NOT come from the Middle Class or poor. They came from MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES. In the last few decades, the DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS BECOME THE PARTY OF THE ULTRA-RICH. REPUBLICANS receive a much higher number of SOFT MONEY CONTRIBUTIONS ( $200 or less).

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Sep 12, 2022 12:27:31   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
PeterS wrote:
I just love what's capitalism and what's socialism to you cons and why you love one but have so much trouble with the other...


Your trouble it that you cann't see the difference between 'Cons'. I'm a conservative. To me, the 'cons' you seem to refer to are Conservatives. I didn't like any of those bailouts. I doubt many do. The other 'cons' are convicts which I believe all to many socialist politicians and few Conservatives should be. They and your ilk are robbing America of what it truly should be, or it is no longer a leader. And the democrats are leading us/you down that rat hole led by biden

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Sep 12, 2022 12:28:56   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
JFlorio wrote:
All are crony-capitalism and I'm against all of it.


Un Regulated Capitalism is
Pure Theft.
Where is the Free Market????

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Sep 12, 2022 13:47:18   #
PeterS
 
PeterS wrote:
I just love what's capitalism and what's socialism to you cons and why you love one but have so much trouble with the other...

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Sep 12, 2022 15:07:47   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Your trouble it that you cann't see the difference between 'Cons'. I'm a conservative. To me, the 'cons' you seem to refer to are Conservatives. I didn't like any of those bailouts. I doubt many do. The other 'cons' are convicts which I believe all to many socialist politicians and few Conservatives should be. They and your ilk are robbing America of what it truly should be, or it is no longer a leader. And the democrats are leading us/you down that rat hole led by biden


A conservative ???
A conservative what ?
Conservatives have written and passed zero bills. They don’t really represent a party anymore as the conservatives have all been expelled from the GOP .
So , the conservative idea that so clutchingly gets brought into anything Republican.
Well, “I’m a conservative” as though this will stop everything in its tracks.
Just by blurting it out. It’s never define exactly wtf a conservative is.
It’s only an abstract defense for lying republicans.
Well , I’m a conservative !
Wh**ever,
That means.

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Sep 12, 2022 21:54:05   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
maureenthannon wrote:
Have you forgotten that it was the DEMOCRATS, during the Obama administration that said they had to give money to businesses that were "TOO BIG TO FAIL"? And POUS Obama received record amounts of MULT-MILLION DOLLAR POLITICAL CONTRIBUTIONS. These did NOT come from the Middle Class or poor. They came from MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES. In the last few decades, the DEMOCRATIC PARTY HAS BECOME THE PARTY OF THE ULTRA-RICH. REPUBLICANS receive a much higher number of SOFT MONEY CONTRIBUTIONS ( $200 or less).
Have you forgotten that it was the DEMOCRATS, duri... (show quote)


The businesses you refer to were taken over by the government and every penny that was given to them has been repaid.
It was done to also save the jobs and to keep people working.
Why would youz be against that ?

And too big to fail was Reagan .
And his Voodoo economics program .
He essentially abolished the
Sherman Anti Trust Act .
This act was to prevent companies from becoming too big to fail.
Why is why our problems today are do much bigger. Too big to fail commands larger bail out checks from the government.

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Sep 13, 2022 09:42:39   #
currahee506
 
Politicians have no money to give anybody. Their promises of any "bailout" is really a promise to v**e on policies for the "inclusive-capitalistic and international-minded lobbyist" that are colluding with the owners of the central bank to print currency that will be in circulation to pollute the value of "the fiat dollar (an IOU piece of paper with interest). The "c**p d' gra" to the free market was August 1, l971, when President Nixon announced that "gold will no longer be attached to the dollar. The FED now owns the "free market" completely. The entire West has been a s***e to Marx's economic (Keynesian) system for a long time. Trump has attempted "constitutionally to reverse this situation of s***ery. But the Manhattan propaganda machine has ginned-up lies and hatred against him throughout the Western World, The elitist of Europe and the Rockafeller-Blackrock-Soros backed CFR are saying, "How dare anyone go against us as the American Revolutionaries went against King George in the Eighteenth Century?" Follow the money and you will know what's happening.

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Sep 13, 2022 10:40:59   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
currahee506 wrote:
Politicians have no money to give anybody. Their promises of any "bailout" is really a promise to v**e on policies for the "inclusive-capitalistic and international-minded lobbyist" that are colluding with the owners of the central bank to print currency that will be in circulation to pollute the value of "the fiat dollar (an IOU piece of paper with interest). The "c**p d' gra" to the free market was August 1, l971, when President Nixon announced that "gold will no longer be attached to the dollar. The FED now owns the "free market" completely. The entire West has been a s***e to Marx's economic (Keynesian) system for a long time. Trump has attempted "constitutionally to reverse this situation of s***ery. But the Manhattan propaganda machine has ginned-up lies and hatred against him throughout the Western World, The elitist of Europe and the Rockafeller-Blackrock-Soros backed CFR are saying, "How dare anyone go against us as the American Revolutionaries went against King George in the Eighteenth Century?" Follow the money and you will know what's happening.
Politicians have no money to give anybody. Their ... (show quote)



Stay in the dark there, pal.
There’s no crime in that !

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Sep 13, 2022 15:28:15   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Un Regulated Capitalism is
Pure Theft.
Where is the Free Market????


That is the free market

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Sep 13, 2022 15:35:49   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Milosia2 wrote:
A conservative ???
A conservative what ?
Conservatives have written and passed zero bills. They don’t really represent a party anymore as the conservatives have all been expelled from the GOP .
So , the conservative idea that so clutchingly gets brought into anything Republican.
Well, “I’m a conservative” as though this will stop everything in its tracks.
Just by blurting it out. It’s never define exactly wtf a conservative is.
It’s only an abstract defense for lying republicans.
Well , I’m a conservative !
Wh**ever,
That means.
A conservative ??? br A conservative what ? br Co... (show quote)


con·serv·a·tive

adjective
1. averse to change or innovation and holding traditional values: "they were very conservative in their outlook" Similar traditionalist, traditional, conventional, orthodox, stable, ... moreOpposite radical
2. (in a political context) favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas. Similar right-wing, traditionalist, reactionary, establishmentarian, neoliberal, ... moreOpposite left-wing, liberal, socialist

noun
1. a person who is averse to change and holds traditional values: "he was considered a conservative in his approach to Catholic teachings"
2. a person favoring free enterprise, private ownership, and socially traditional ideas. "many conservatives remain opposed to mandates"

conservative: [adjective] of or relating to a philosophy of conservatism. of or constituting a political party professing the principles of conservatism:

conservative / ( kənˈsɜːvətɪv) / adjective favouring the preservation of established customs, values, etc, and opposing innovation of, characteristic of, or relating to conservatism tending to be moderate or cautious a conservative estimate noun a person who is reluctant to change or consider new ideas;

conservative noun a person whose political beliefs are centered on tradition and keeping things the way they are proposed

The conservative movement or body of opinion can accommodate a considerable diversity of views on a good many subjects, there being no Test Act or Thirty-Nine Articles of the conservative creed.

Conservatism in the United States is a political and social philosophy based on limited government, traditionalism, republicanism, and limited federal governmental power in relation to U.S. states.

Political philosophy focused on retaining traditional social institutions

Conservatism is a cultural, social, and political philosophy that seeks to promote and to preserve traditional social institutions and practices. The central tenets of conservatism may vary in relation to the status quo of the culture and civilization in which it appears. In Western culture, conservatives seek to preserve a range of institutions such as organized religion,

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Sep 13, 2022 17:13:40   #
PeterS
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Your trouble it that you cann't see the difference between 'Cons'. I'm a conservative. To me, the 'cons' you seem to refer to are Conservatives. I didn't like any of those bailouts. I doubt many do. The other 'cons' are convicts which I believe all to many socialist politicians and few Conservatives should be. They and your ilk are robbing America of what it truly should be, or it is no longer a leader. And the democrats are leading us/you down that rat hole led by biden

It doesn't matter if you liked the bailouts--they are what keeps our economy going. And when Trump was in office he ran at least a trillion dollar deficit each and every year except the last when he blew the lid off of it. I don't know of a single conservative who cared about how much money Trump spent, nor that his borrow and spend habits amounted to 5% of a yearly GDP that never produced more than 3.3%. So if not for government borrowing Trump's economy would have tanked, he would have blamed Democrats, and you...being logically correct...would have agreed with any words that came out of his mouth...

As for the rest, I don't care. When it comes to government and the economy under Republicans. Reagan was borrow and spend. George Jr was borrow and spend. Trump definitely borrow and spend. Poppy Bush was the only Republican who stood up to debt and you cons crucified him and gave the presidency to democrats for the next 8 years...served you right.

The lot that makes up today's Cons are hypocrites. You scream when a Democrat spends money and you look the other way when a Republican spends money and you sure as hell don't care when your Capitalist Economy is propped up, again and again and again, by the American Government. All that debt that you are crying about is the only thing that's kept your capitalistic economy going since Ronald Reagan. Take it away and we would be in a depression like none other ever experienced...you cons would blame us...and the political top would go on spinning just as before...

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Sep 19, 2022 00:52:44   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
PeterS wrote:
It doesn't matter if you liked the bailouts--they are what keeps our economy going. And when Trump was in office he ran at least a trillion dollar deficit each and every year except the last when he blew the lid off of it. I don't know of a single conservative who cared about how much money Trump spent, nor that his borrow and spend habits amounted to 5% of a yearly GDP that never produced more than 3.3%. So if not for government borrowing Trump's economy would have tanked, he would have blamed Democrats, and you...being logically correct...would have agreed with any words that came out of his mouth...

As for the rest, I don't care. When it comes to government and the economy under Republicans. Reagan was borrow and spend. George Jr was borrow and spend. Trump definitely borrow and spend. Poppy Bush was the only Republican who stood up to debt and you cons crucified him and gave the presidency to democrats for the next 8 years...served you right.

The lot that makes up today's Cons are hypocrites. You scream when a Democrat spends money and you look the other way when a Republican spends money and you sure as hell don't care when your Capitalist Economy is propped up, again and again and again, by the American Government. All that debt that you are crying about is the only thing that's kept your capitalistic economy going since Ronald Reagan. Take it away and we would be in a depression like none other ever experienced...you cons would blame us...and the political top would go on spinning just as before...
It doesn't matter if you liked the bailouts--they ... (show quote)


You keep accusing me in your long winded rant full of bull s**t. I don't condone excessive borrowing and excessive spending. And the democrats are worse at the game. So F. O.

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