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Blue Walker 3...Satellites So Bright They Screw Up The Sky For Star Watching
Sep 11, 2022 19:48:58   #
woodguru
 
So the question here is how you feel about the rights of any company to completely screw up the night sky as far as dark moonless nights that are great for star watching?

This affects both professional and amateur astronomers who look for dark nights to watch stars because a bright moon destroys the ability to see stars.

It affects people who live in the country where there is no light pollution from cities that obscures stars. So imagine a satellite so bright that it screws up your night vision to where you can't see the faint stars you would be able to otherwise.

I don't know about you, but we enjoy sitting out on our deck on dark nights, we turn house lights off that face the front so we can let our eyes adjust to the dark, which takes about five minutes...it would piss me off to have a super bright satellite screwing up out night vision to where we can't see all the stars we should be able to, or fainter shooting stars.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2337336-huge-satellite-could-outshine-all-stars-and-planets-in-the-night-sky/

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Sep 11, 2022 21:18:32   #
Kevyn
 
woodguru wrote:
So the question here is how you feel about the rights of any company to completely screw up the night sky as far as dark moonless nights that are great for star watching?

This affects both professional and amateur astronomers who look for dark nights to watch stars because a bright moon destroys the ability to see stars.

It affects people who live in the country where there is no light pollution from cities that obscures stars. So imagine a satellite so bright that it screws up your night vision to where you can't see the faint stars you would be able to otherwise.

I don't know about you, but we enjoy sitting out on our deck on dark nights, we turn house lights off that face the front so we can let our eyes adjust to the dark, which takes about five minutes...it would piss me off to have a super bright satellite screwing up out night vision to where we can't see all the stars we should be able to, or fainter shooting stars.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2337336-huge-satellite-could-outshine-all-stars-and-planets-in-the-night-sky/
So the question here is how you feel about the rig... (show quote)

This sort of nonsense needs to be strictly regulated by an international body like the UN

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Sep 11, 2022 22:38:01   #
Roamin' Catholic Loc: luxurious exile
 
So an object the size of a squash court (I didn't even bother Googling squash court, this article is so ridiculous) about 300 miles away or more is going to affect viewing the night sky? With an albedo less than that of the Moon?

This article is a preposterous insult to the intelligence of any astronomer!

It's a big nothing burger. It will be extremely faint even if you know exactly where to look with powerful equipment.

So don't worry, enjoy the beauty! It's fascinating to put a star map on your phone, learn the constellations and then read about the astonishing stars you are seeing!

And then take note of how unique our so-called "ordinary" main sequence sun really is! If E.T. is visiting, it's not surprising. We are extremely rare.

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Sep 11, 2022 22:48:05   #
American Vet
 
Kevyn wrote:
This sort of nonsense needs to be strictly regulated by an international body like the UN


Of course it does. The world is in dire need of an authoritarian body to insure peace and tranquility - of course, that’s only if you obey. And we all know that an august body such as the UN can be trusted with our freedoms. For example, China and Cuba are members of the Human Rights Council.

ROTFLMAO!!!

You must have topped off your stupid tank this afternoon.

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Sep 11, 2022 23:37:53   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
So the question here is how you feel about the rights of any company to completely screw up the night sky as far as dark moonless nights that are great for star watching?

This affects both professional and amateur astronomers who look for dark nights to watch stars because a bright moon destroys the ability to see stars.

It affects people who live in the country where there is no light pollution from cities that obscures stars. So imagine a satellite so bright that it screws up your night vision to where you can't see the faint stars you would be able to otherwise.

I don't know about you, but we enjoy sitting out on our deck on dark nights, we turn house lights off that face the front so we can let our eyes adjust to the dark, which takes about five minutes...it would piss me off to have a super bright satellite screwing up out night vision to where we can't see all the stars we should be able to, or fainter shooting stars.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2337336-huge-satellite-could-outshine-all-stars-and-planets-in-the-night-sky/
So the question here is how you feel about the rig... (show quote)
I've been a sky watcher and amateur astronomer since I was a kid. Astronomy and space science has been a lifelong avocation.

Since the last week in July, I have been watching the meteor showers nearly every night, moon and no moon.
Not just one meteor shower, but many.
The Tau Aquarids,
North and South Delta Aquarids,
North and South Iota Aquarids,
Alpha and K Cygnids,
July Pegasids,
Perseids,
Alpha and Sigma Capricornids.

And all the while, I've been tracking the moon, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn and M31 (the Andromeda Galaxy).

And, thanks to my Sky Walk app I've been able to locate and track any satellite, including the Hubble telescope and the ISS whenever one comes over on a clear night.

I don't think this thing is gonna be much of a problem.
I don't think this thing is gonna be much of a pro...

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Sep 12, 2022 03:13:03   #
woodguru
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:
So an object the size of a squash court (I didn't even bother Googling squash court, this article is so ridiculous) about 300 miles away or more is going to affect viewing the night sky? With an albedo less than that of the Moon?

This article is a preposterous insult to the intelligence of any astronomer!

It's a big nothing burger. It will be extremely faint even if you know exactly where to look with powerful equipment.

So don't worry, enjoy the beauty! It's fascinating to put a star map on your phone, learn the constellations and then read about the astonishing stars you are seeing!

And then take note of how unique our so-called "ordinary" main sequence sun really is! If E.T. is visiting, it's not surprising. We are extremely rare.
So an object the size of a squash court (I didn't ... (show quote)


Your ignorance is profound

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Sep 12, 2022 03:59:37   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Roamin' Catholic wrote:

So an object the size of a squash court (I didn't even bother Googling squash court, this article is so ridiculous) about 300 miles away or more is going to affect viewing the night sky? With an albedo less than that of the Moon?

This article is a preposterous insult to the intelligence of any astronomer!

It's a big nothing burger. It will be extremely faint even if you know exactly where to look with powerful equipment.

So don't worry, enjoy the beauty! It's fascinating to put a star map on your phone, learn the constellations and then read about the astonishing stars you are seeing!

And then take note of how unique our so-called "ordinary" main sequence sun really is! If E.T. is visiting, it's not surprising. We are extremely rare.
br So an object the size of a squash court (I did... (show quote)
woodguru wrote:
Your ignorance is profound
You have a charming way of telling us about yourself and blaming it all on us.

Roamin' Catholic just gave you some solid information that I agree with wholeheartedly,
and you say his "ignorance is profound"?

You are a special kind of two-faced moron.

The "Sky Walk" app for a smart phone is an excellent tool for skywatchers and amateur astronomers.

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Sep 12, 2022 21:12:27   #
F.D.R.
 
[quote=woodguru]So the question here is how you feel about the rights of any company to completely screw up the night sky as far as dark moonless nights that are great for star watching?

This affects both professional and amateur astronomers who look for dark nights to watch stars because a bright moon destroys the ability to see stars.

It affects people who live in the country where there is no light pollution from cities that obscures stars. So imagine a satellite so bright that it screws up your night vision to where you can't see the faint stars you would be able to otherwise.

I don't know about you, but we enjoy sitting out on our deck on dark nights, we turn house lights off that face the front so we can let our eyes adjust to the dark, which takes about five minutes...it would piss me off to have a super bright satellite screwing up out night vision to where we can't see all the stars we should be able to, or fainter shooting stars.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2337336-huge-satellite-could-outshine-all-stars-and-planets-in-the-night-sky/[/quote

Have no fear, all of the stars and planets are right there where you left them yesterday. I'm sure if they move someone will tell you. Sleep tight.

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Sep 12, 2022 21:14:58   #
American Vet
 
woodguru wrote:
So the question here is how you feel about the rights of any company to completely screw up the night sky as far as dark moonless nights that are great for star watching?

This affects both professional and amateur astronomers who look for dark nights to watch stars because a bright moon destroys the ability to see stars.

It affects people who live in the country where there is no light pollution from cities that obscures stars. So imagine a satellite so bright that it screws up your night vision to where you can't see the faint stars you would be able to otherwise.

I don't know about you, but we enjoy sitting out on our deck on dark nights, we turn house lights off that face the front so we can let our eyes adjust to the dark, which takes about five minutes...it would piss me off to have a super bright satellite screwing up out night vision to where we can't see all the stars we should be able to, or fainter shooting stars.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2337336-huge-satellite-could-outshine-all-stars-and-planets-in-the-night-sky/
So the question here is how you feel about the rig... (show quote)


Do you think it is going to hover over your deck just to ruin your view?

AS Bugs Bunny would say “what a maroon”…

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