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Trump gave Aid and Comfort to the I**********nists---a violation of the 14th Amendment
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Sep 20, 2022 08:48:15   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
JR-57 wrote:
My comments are referring to your one statement about U.S. C*****l P****e Officer Brian Sicknick.

“One police officer was k**led by being hit on the head with a fire extinguisher (and dying later, because of that, in a hospital),………”

That is a false statement.

Following are a couple links that debunk that statement. The links are from left leaning partisan sources.

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/apr/20/update-capitol-police-officer-sicknick-died-natura/

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/brian-sicknick-fire-extinguisher/

I suggest you research the cause of death for the others. Ashli Babbitt was the only person murdered that day, by an incompetent overzealous c*****l p****e officer.
My comments are referring to your one statement ab... (show quote)


Robert, PLEASE follow JRs advice.
You seem like a guy who is attempting to accurately evaluate a complex situation, and not just a typical l*****t wing nut regurgitating DNC talking points. But when you use inaccurate and long since debunked 'evidence' to support your points, it undermines and collapses everything you are trying to say.

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Sep 20, 2022 08:49:47   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I understand your points.
However.
Without rehashing too much (I hope), you are choosing to believe things that are factually wrong, and then extrapolating 't***hs' based on those choices. The police officer did NOT die 'from a blow to the head', no matter what you choose to believe. As shown by the medical examiners legally binding sworn expert testimony. Stress, even extreme stress, does NOT motivate mentally healthy people to commit suicide. The law, and justice, IS about splitting hairs and looking at facts.....not analyzing patterns or trends. You say you are not interested in strict definitions of how people died, yet you have repeated several times that multiple people died as a result of the r**t, which is factually wrong.
Trump was ELECTED PRECISELY because he had not spent decades "serving" himself in public office. Every one of your "public servants" have made themselves rich on a fixed government salary. Look at Biden. Fifty plus years of "public service", and look at the pathetic job he is doing for America.
Robert, if you want to look for patterns and trends, that is fine, and is absolutely valid.
But no one should be judged, tried, and convicted based on 'trends' or unproven assumptions about what his 'intentions' were. THAT is what you are doing. Reread you post. It is well written, but in it's essence there is not much difference between it and what Rascal writes. Your conclusions are based on assumptions and deeply held beliefs that Trump is a criminal and that everything he does is intended to be selfserving and usually illegal.
Everything you write flows from that basic assumption, and you spend a lot of time and effort rationalizing your beliefs instead of seeking the t***h.
If evidence and objective examination of facts proves that Trump, beyond a reasonable doubt, committed one or more crimes, then I will be first in line to see him held accountable IN FULL! Including jail time.
If you want to look for trends and patterns of inciting violence and r**ts......what Trump has said and done is NOTHING compared to what the Democrats and the left have done and have been doing for decades. If you want to go there, I can list dozens of examples off the top of my head, most of them from Democrat leaders and MUCH worse than 'fight like hell.'
I understand your points. br However. br Without r... (show quote)

🤨 Was it a r****t semi-f*****t MAGA gun loving d******c t*******t and far right political fanatic who went to a baseball game and shot a member of the U.S. Congress? Not that I recall. Only one of many examples.

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Sep 20, 2022 08:58:59   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
JR-57 wrote:
🤨 Was it a r****t semi-f*****t MAGA gun loving d******c t*******t and far right political fanatic who went to a baseball game and shot a member of the U.S. Congress? Not that I recall. Only one of many examples.



Which of the many MANY Democrat verbal attacks on Republicans is responsible for that guy's murderous intentions and actions??? <sarcasm intended>

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Sep 20, 2022 09:08:49   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
RandyBrian wrote:

Which of the many MANY Democrat verbal attacks on Republicans is responsible for that guy's murderous intentions and actions??? <sarcasm intended>

I know your question is rhetorical as well. But (there’s always a “but” with me 😂), I believe we’re all responsible and accountable for our own actions. Regardless of outside influences, even if they’re negative influences.

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Sep 20, 2022 09:26:46   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
JR-57 wrote:
I know your question is rhetorical as well. But (there’s always a “but” with me 😂), I believe we’re all responsible and accountable for our own actions. Regardless of outside influences, even if they’re negative influences.


Agreed. Can we be influenced? Of course....we are all human. Does that make the influencer responsible? Perhaps morally, in a very small way, and in certain rare cases. But never criminally.

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Sep 20, 2022 09:29:11   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Agreed. Can we be influenced? Of course....we are all human. Does that make the influencer responsible? Perhaps morally, in a very small way, and in certain rare cases. But never criminally.

You and I should be running the show. 😂

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Sep 20, 2022 09:31:42   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
JR-57 wrote:
You and I should be running the show. 😂


I can see my wife rolling her eyes already!.

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Sep 20, 2022 09:59:42   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
RandyBrian wrote:
I understand your points.
However.
Without rehashing too much (I hope), you are choosing to believe things that are factually wrong, and then extrapolating 't***hs' based on those choices. The police officer did NOT die 'from a blow to the head', no matter what you choose to believe. As shown by the medical examiners legally binding sworn expert testimony. Stress, even extreme stress, does NOT motivate mentally healthy people to commit suicide. The law, and justice, IS about splitting hairs and looking at facts.....not analyzing patterns or trends. You say you are not interested in strict definitions of how people died, yet you have repeated several times that multiple people died as a result of the r**t, which is factually wrong.
Trump was ELECTED PRECISELY because he had not spent decades "serving" himself in public office. Every one of your "public servants" have made themselves rich on a fixed government salary. Look at Biden. Fifty plus years of "public service", and look at the pathetic job he is doing for America.
Robert, if you want to look for patterns and trends, that is fine, and is absolutely valid.
But no one should be judged, tried, and convicted based on 'trends' or unproven assumptions about what his 'intentions' were. THAT is what you are doing. Reread you post. It is well written, but in it's essence there is not much difference between it and what Rascal writes. Your conclusions are based on assumptions and deeply held beliefs that Trump is a criminal and that everything he does is intended to be selfserving and usually illegal.
Everything you write flows from that basic assumption, and you spend a lot of time and effort rationalizing your beliefs instead of seeking the t***h.
If evidence and objective examination of facts proves that Trump, beyond a reasonable doubt, committed one or more crimes, then I will be first in line to see him held accountable IN FULL! Including jail time.
If you want to look for trends and patterns of inciting violence and r**ts......what Trump has said and done is NOTHING compared to what the Democrats and the left have done and have been doing for decades. If you want to go there, I can list dozens of examples off the top of my head, most of them from Democrat leaders and MUCH worse than 'fight like hell.'
I understand your points. br However. br Without r... (show quote)


Yelp, that's right.

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Sep 20, 2022 17:37:39   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
microphor wrote:
Yelp, that's right.



"Trump was ELECTED PRECISELY because he had not spent decades "serving" himself in public office. Every one of your "public servants" have made themselves rich on a fixed government salary. Look at Biden. Fifty plus years of "public service", and look at the pathetic job he is doing for America."

Yep!
Joe Biden has been feeding from the public trough for 50 years.

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Sep 20, 2022 17:56:13   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Trump was ELECTED PRECISELY because he had not spent decades "serving" himself in public office. Every one of your "public servants" have made themselves rich on a fixed government salary. Look at Biden. Fifty plus years of "public service", and look at the pathetic job he is doing for America."

Yep!
Joe Biden has been feeding from the public trough for 50 years.


And made himself and his family rich doing it.
When he started in the Senate the pay was less than $43,000/year. When he last served as a Senator it was less than $170,000 per year. Since then he was paid 8 years as VP. took four years off, and has been paid 20 months as president.
Now he is a multi millionaire with a net worth estimated at $9,000,000 and two homes worth close to $5 million. And he did it while living in some of the most expensive cost of living areas in America.
He has been selling SOMETHING! What, oh what could it be??

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Sep 20, 2022 18:32:31   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
RandyBrian wrote:
And made himself and his family rich doing it.
When he started in the Senate the pay was less than $43,000/year. When he last served as a Senator it was less than $170,000 per year. Since then he was paid 8 years as VP. took four years off, and has been paid 20 months as president.
Now he is a multi millionaire with a net worth estimated at $9,000,000 and two homes worth close to $5 million. And he did it while living in some of the most expensive cost of living areas in America.
He has been selling SOMETHING! What, oh what could it be??
And made himself and his family rich doing it. br ... (show quote)


"He has been selling SOMETHING! What, oh what could it be??"

His soul.

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Sep 20, 2022 18:44:03   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"He has been selling SOMETHING! What, oh what could it be??"

His soul.


Yes. The soul has to go before your conscience will allow you to sell influence and embrace corruption.

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Sep 20, 2022 18:52:12   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"He has been selling SOMETHING! What, oh what could it be??"

His soul.


and...... we liberty lovers "down the river."

Every stinking one of these l*****t whack job democrats, bureaucrats and MSM are pigs, thugs and cartel c*******ts. Together they represent the greatest threat to America and democracy ever!

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Sep 20, 2022 20:01:55   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
WinkyTink wrote:
and...... we liberty lovers "down the river."

Every stinking one of these l*****t whack job democrats, bureaucrats and MSM are pigs, thugs and cartel c*******ts. Together they represent the greatest threat to America and democracy ever!


Their time is limited.
They will stand before their maker as we all will.
There will be the grinding of the teeth by the unbelievers.
Oh well.

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Sep 21, 2022 16:29:55   #
robertv3
 
soontobeindicted mattoid wrote:
Was Robin the president? Who knew?


Well put.

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