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Sep 8, 2022 21:09:19   #
okie don
 
slatten49 wrote:
From Shayn McCallum....PhD in Politics, Monash University

The N**is were described as far right in their own time because that is exactly what they were. The name “National Socialist” needs to be understood in a specific context and too many people trying to revise history are seeing “left” and “right” in ways that do not apply and that ignore history and the specific circumstances that produced both N**ism and f*****m.

Sociologically, the conditions that created f*****m and N**ism in the 1920s and 1930s were very similar to what produced Trumpism in the USA. The demographics are similar, the catch-all populist ideology is similar, the lack of any real substance or principle is similar.

The first mistake people make is trying to see N**ism as a coherent ideology- it never was. The N**is largely made it up as they went along and it was a catch-all for violent, angry discontent and people who wanted to “make the Left bleed”. The enemy, from the very beginning, was always the Left- the Socialists and c*******ts.

The German Right had a long history of coopting the term “socialism” to demobilize the Left. It started with Bismarck, a pillar of the German conservative Right.

Which brings me to the next great error of those who try to see the N**is as “left wing”. European conservatism at that time had little in common with what people of the Anglo-Saxon “liberal conservative” tradition think of as conservative. Central European conservatism was feudal-nostalgic, highly collectivist, statist and militarist. The signature of the Right was a disdain for democracy, a strong belief in hierarchy and a devout love of order. Capitalism was not a priority although the preservation of private property certainly was.

The N**is were 100% in line with the classical German Right in many ways, except that, rather than the Prussian military aristocracy favored by Bismarck, N**ism expressed primarily the anger and sentiments of the petitte-bourgeoisie, the fearful middle class that h**ed both the socialists, with their demands to end private property, and the large capitalists whose power threatened to drive small businesses out of the market. That sense of threatened privilege and lost glory and the desire to make some scapegoat pay is the entirely of the mass appeal of f*****m and N**ism.

Now, the N**is and f*****ts were movements consciously driven by a desire for power. They were populist in appeal but elitist and oligarchical in organization and they were happy to say or do anything to get into power.

The adoption of the “Socialist” label by the N**is was inspired by two things. When the party was first founded, it did have a left wing that genuinely advocated a type of anti-Marxist socialism but Hitler and those around him murdered all of these in the Night of the Long Knives. They retained the “socialist” label for branding purposes.

This was a good strategy because the Left in Germany was huge and, in fact, had the c*******ts and socialists not h**ed each other so much, they could have taken the government themselves. Almost the entire working class was one or other shade of red and the N**is knew that to change red into brown, they needed to be able to use some socialist sounding rhetoric. Bismarck had done the exact same thing.

Furthermore, by redefining clearly (especially for their business audience) what they meant by “socialism” (i. e. Making it clear that they were in favor of private property) they were able to make the capitalist class understand that they were not really socialists at all, attracting considerable support from industrialists.

The entire pitch of the N**is to the capitalists and conservatives was that they were the only effective antidote to the Left.

The exact same strategy was at work in Italian f*****m.

So, long story short, the attempt to claim the N**is and F*****ts were left wing is based on an extremely shallow, highly ignorant bit of historical revisionism that deliberately ignores all but the most superficial of details.
From Shayn McCallum....PhD in Politics, Monash Uni... (show quote)


Slatten,
Many here are anxious to know if you have taken your C***D ** shots and booster shot China Joe is advocating.
You need to get R done if you haven't

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Sep 9, 2022 00:09:02   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
slatten49 wrote:
Republicans’ hypocritical reaction to President Biden’s use of the F-word.

by WILLIAM SALETAN

Republicans are furious over President Biden’s recent remarks linking Donald Trump and his supporters to “semi-f*****m.” For days, they’ve been all over TV and social media, denouncing Biden’s use of the F-word. But Biden was right. Many of the ideas and tactics deployed by Trump and his apologists, including those who decry Biden’s comparison, fit the dictionary definition of f*****m.

Consider Rep. Jim Jordan, who will chair the House Judiciary Committee if Republicans retake the House this fall. Jordan says Biden is dividing America by “calling Republicans ‘semi-f*****ts.’” But three years ago, when Trump committed an openly authoritarian act, Jordan endorsed it.

In January 2019, the House of Representatives, which had a new Democratic majority, refused to fund a border wall demanded by Trump. So the president declared a national emergency to build the wall, seizing from Congress its constitutional authority over appropriations. No president had ever claimed such emergency powers to override the will of Congress. But Jordan stood with Trump. “We tried for 35 days . . . to get the Democrats to do what everyone knows needs to happen,” said Jordan. “I support the national emergency declaration 100 percent.”

You could argue that confiscating money for the wall was only semi-authoritarian. To be fully authoritarian, you might say, a leader would have to use illegal means not just to exercise power, but to seize power or stay in power. But Trump and his henchmen meet that standard, too.

Take the case of Rep. Andy Biggs, who led the conservative House Freedom Caucus during Trump’s presidency. Biggs now accuses Biden of “demonizing people and making them villains” by invoking the F-word. But after the 2020 e******n, Biggs, Jordan, and several other congressional Republicans directly participated in Trump’s attempted c**p.

In December 2020—more than a month after Biden had won the presidency, and several days after the E*******l College had certified the results—Biggs made an incendiary video for a “Stop the Steal” rally in Arizona. He urged Trump’s supporters to “keep fighting” so Trump could stay in power. Biggs also participated in a subsequent White House meeting in which Trump unsuccessfully pressured Vice President Mike Pence to overturn the e******n.

Astickler might say that an attempt to overturn an e******n isn’t really f*****t unless it involves the use of state power or mob violence. But Trump and his allies tried to use both.

Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s right-hand man in several abuses of power, says it’s Biden, not Trump, who runs America like “a damned dictatorship.” But in December 2020, after the E*******l College had certified Biden’s e******n, Giuliani—at Trump’s direction—phoned the acting deputy secretary at the Department of Homeland Security to ask whether DHS could seize v****g machines from states. Then, at Trump’s J****** 6th rally on the Ellipse, Giuliani exhorted the crowd: “Let’s have trial by combat!”

Giuliani didn’t just help to incite the attack on the Capitol. To this day, he continues to whitewash it and excuse the perpetrators. On his radio show last weekend, Giuliani said of Rep. Adam Schiff: “He’s a damned liar when he starts calling J****** 6th an i**********n, a revolt.” Giuliani went on: “I’m not saying the people that did wrong and pushed around cops and did what they did shouldn’t be punished appropriately. I am saying that by putting them in jail for 14 months and leaving them there, you got a f*****t state going on.”

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, another apologist for the J****** 6th perpetrators, says Biden’s talk of f*****m is ridiculous because “Democrats are the f*****ts.” But in 2018 and 2019, Greene repeatedly endorsed calls for political violence. She “liked” Facebook posts saying that FBI agents “need to be hung for treason” and suggesting a “bullet to the head” of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Greene didn’t just hit the “like” button. When a commenter asked how long it would be before “we get to hang” Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, Greene replied: “Stage is being set. Players are being put in place.” In videos, she said Pelosi was “guilty of treason,” a “crime punishable by death.” And this year, Greene spoke at an openly f*****t—that is, pro-Hitler—political action conference.

The dictionary definition of f*****m doesn’t just talk about autocracy. It also includes ethnic nationalism. But by this standard, too, Trump and many of his propagandists are semi-f*****t. Kayleigh McEnany, who served as Trump’s White House press secretary, calls Biden’s reference to f*****m a baseless “message of hatred.” But in the summer of 2016, Trump, the de facto Republican p**********l nominee, declared a federal judge unfit to preside over a fraud case against Trump University because “he’s a Mexican.” And McEnany defended this attack.

Trump’s campaign against the judge, Gonzalo Curiel—who was born in America—was an overt play to target an ethnic minority, undermine faith in the judiciary, and shield Trump from legal accountability. But McEnany, who was then a CNN commentator, stood by the candidate. She said Trump’s rationale—that Curiel’s “Mexican heritage” presented “an inherent conflict of interest” because Trump was “very strong on the border”—was just an extrapolation from the common observation that Latinos opposed Trump’s hardline views on immigration.

You could argue that an out-and-out f*****t would use nationalist bigotry to persecute a whole minority group, not just a single judge. That’s what Trump did in 2015, when he called for a “complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.” McEnany, in her role as a commentator, excused this proposal, too. It was only a “temporary ban on non-U.S. citizen Muslims,” she reasoned.

McEnany had no direct role in Trump’s campaign against Muslims. But Stephen Miller, the chief architect of the Trump administration’s anti-immigration policies, was centrally involved in the Muslim ban. In 2015, as a liaison from Sen. Jeff Sessions, Miller started working with Trump’s campaign on immigration policy. On Dec. 3, 2015, he wrote an email scorning “Muslim Resettlement” in the United States. Four days later, on Dec. 7, Trump proposed his ban on Muslim immigration. A month after that, the campaign officially brought Miller on board.

The timing of those events might be coincidental. But this we know: When Trump became president, Miller helped to craft his executive order suspending travel to the United States from several majority-Muslim countries. And when a judge blocked the travel ban, Miller asserted that Trump’s authority was virtually imperial. “We have a judiciary that has taken far too much power,” said Miller. “Our opponents, the media, and the whole world will soon see, as we begin to take further actions, that the powers of the president to protect our country are very substantial and will not be questioned.”

Miller, without apparent irony, now says it’s preposterous that Democrats are “accusing their opponents of being f*****t.”

Trump’s cult includes many other components common to previous f*****t movements—paranoia, fantastic lies, anti-intellectualism, a mythologized national past, selective appeals to law and order, and propaganda about enemies of the state. When Sen. Lindsey Graham went on TV Sunday to warn that “there literally will be r**ts in the street” if Trump is prosecuted for breaking national security laws by hiding classified documents at Mar-a-Lago—Graham repeated the line twice, to make it clear that he was serious—that’s another page from the f*****t playbook: invocation of mob violence to protect the movement’s leader.

But the clearest illustration of the MAGA elite’s descent into f*****m might be its embrace of a like-minded leader from another country: Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán.

As Cathy Young, Charles Sykes, David Baer, and other writers have explained in The Bulwark, Orbán is an increasingly authoritarian ethnonationalist. In a speech on July 23, he warned, “There is a world in which European peoples are mixed together with those arriving from outside Europe.” Orbán called this a “mixed-race world” and concluded, “We are willing to mix with one another, but we do not want to become peoples of mixed-race.”

Orbán’s speech was so grotesque that one of his own advisers resigned, calling the speech “a purely N**i diatribe worthy of Joseph Goebbels.” But a week later, Orbán was welcomed as the keynote speaker at a Dallas meeting of the Conservative Political Action Conference, which reveres Trump and is one of his favorite venues. Two days after that, Trump spoke to the same gathering. The two aspiring autocrats were warmly applauded.

This past Monday, CPAC chairman Matt Schlapp stoutly defended Orbán. “We support leaders who reject globalism, socialism, illegal migration and care about defending families, national sovereignty, and traditional values,” Schlapp tweeted.

Then, on Wednesday, Schlapp posted a video of himself rebuking Biden for using the F-word. “It’s the left that are the f*****ts,” he charged.

Say what you will about the American semi-f*****ts. They certainly have a sense of humor.
Republicans’ hypocritical reaction to President Bi... (show quote)



What a bunch of crap! If the right is semi f*****t then the left is full blown f*****ts. With a wanna be dictator drooling incoherently while dividing the nation. And why wasn't he called out for politicizing the military, by having the Marines in the background during his campaign speech labor day weekend? Doesn't anyone in Washington care about how far we've fallen from the honorable country we once were?

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Sep 9, 2022 06:37:03   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Some of y'all just can't handle the t***h.

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Sep 9, 2022 07:02:41   #
Rose42
 
slatten49 wrote:
Some of y'all just can't handle the t***h.


Its opinion and isn’t different than calling democrats c*******ts or perhaps semi c*******ts.

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Sep 9, 2022 10:12:40   #
WEBCO
 


You should read the 4th article down from this, it explains how f*****m is socialist.

Logically f*****m makes NO sense being from the political right. The right believes in the individual, the left believes in the collective. The farthest right on the political scale would be a Libertarian or even an anarchist, both believing in individual rights. The farthest left would be c*******m, believing in the group or collective, at the expense of the individual. I've actually seen c*******m, in East Berlin, and it is horrific. There are legitimate reasons why people flee from it, it is industrial sized s***ery...nothing else.

Hope this clarifies things for you.

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Sep 9, 2022 10:48:18   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
WEBCO wrote:
You should read the 4th article down from this, it explains how f*****m is socialist.

Logically f*****m makes NO sense being from the political right. The right believes in the individual, the left believes in the collective. The farthest right on the political scale would be a Libertarian or even an anarchist, both believing in individual rights. The farthest left would be c*******m, believing in the group or collective, at the expense of the individual. I've actually seen c*******m, in East Berlin, and it is horrific. There are legitimate reasons why people flee from it, it is industrial sized s***ery...nothing else.

Hope this clarifies things for you.
You should read the 4th article down from this, it... (show quote)

Yes, it clarifies that when purposeful blindness gets started, it knows no bounds.

"There are few things more singular than the blindness which, in matter of the highest importance to ourselves, often hides the t***h that is plain as noon to all other eyes." - George Croly

fas·cism
[ˈfaSHˌizəm]
NOUN
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · absolute rule · N**ism · rightism · militarism · nationalism · xenophobia · r****m · [more] derogatory
extremely authoritarian, intolerant, or oppressive ideas or behavior: very intolerant or domineering views or practices in a particular area:

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Sep 9, 2022 10:51:40   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
WEBCO wrote:
You should read the 4th article down from this, it explains how f*****m is socialist.

Logically f*****m makes NO sense being from the political right. The right believes in the individual, the left believes in the collective. The farthest right on the political scale would be a Libertarian or even an anarchist, both believing in individual rights. The farthest left would be c*******m, believing in the group or collective, at the expense of the individual. I've actually seen c*******m, in East Berlin, and it is horrific. There are legitimate reasons why people flee from it, it is industrial sized s***ery...nothing else.

Hope this clarifies things for you.
You should read the 4th article down from this, it... (show quote)



Now your dreaming. Although your post was clearly stated and used common language Slatten never changes his opinion once he reads what it should be in his right wing rags

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Sep 9, 2022 10:54:14   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
slatten49 wrote:
Yes, it clarifies that when purposeful blindness gets started, it knows no bounds.

"There are few things more singular than the blindness which, in matter of the highest importance to ourselves, often hides the t***h that is plain as noon to all other eyes." - George Croly

fas·cism
[ˈfaSHˌizəm]
NOUN
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · absolute rule · N**ism · rightism · militarism · nationalism · xenophobia · r****m · [more] derogatory
extremely authoritarian, intolerant, or oppressive ideas or behavior: very intolerant or domineering views or practices in a particular area:
Yes, it clarifies that when purposeful blindness g... (show quote)



Apply that to yourself and see the light. Hallelujah OHMMMMMMMMM

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Sep 9, 2022 10:57:42   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nonalien1 wrote:
Now your dreaming. Although your post was clearly stated and used common language Slatten never changes his opinion once he reads what it should be in his right wing rags

"His (my) right-wing rags" Clearly, you remain (as usual) confused.

Come out'ta the dark.

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Sep 9, 2022 12:11:49   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Yes, it clarifies that when purposeful blindness gets started, it knows no bounds.

"There are few things more singular than the blindness which, in matter of the highest importance to ourselves, often hides the t***h that is plain as noon to all other eyes." - George Croly

fas·cism
[ˈfaSHˌizəm]
NOUN
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · absolute rule · N**ism · rightism · militarism · nationalism · xenophobia · r****m · [more] derogatory
extremely authoritarian, intolerant, or oppressive ideas or behavior: very intolerant or domineering views or practices in a particular area:
Yes, it clarifies that when purposeful blindness g... (show quote)


Those of us on the right have a purposeful blindness in that we don't she the character flaws of Trump so much as we see the success of his policies. I didn't v**e for his character, I v**ed for what he promised to do and was witness to his efforts to do those things, for the most part, much more so than any other candidate in my life time.

The left has a purposeful blindness which is not only blind to what Biden is doing but are also blind to his character flaws as well.


Call it f*****m or anything you want. Biden is a corrupt politician and his policies are doing great harm to the nation. The really scary part is that we are actually beginning to see acceptance of that harm. That is both unbelievable and scary. As he pushes us closer to WWIII , I hope you l*****ts remember what you have done. As yo pay your higher taxes, as your hypocrisy regarding helping migrants becomes more and more evident, remember it. These are things you have given us either by legitimate v**e, which I doubt, or r****d e******n, which IMO actually happened in 2020. I know, you call my opinion a lie, but I call it an opinion based upon what I witnessed that night.

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Sep 9, 2022 14:39:20   #
WEBCO
 
slatten49 wrote:
Yes, it clarifies that when purposeful blindness gets started, it knows no bounds.

"There are few things more singular than the blindness which, in matter of the highest importance to ourselves, often hides the t***h that is plain as noon to all other eyes." - George Croly

fas·cism
[ˈfaSHˌizəm]
NOUN
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms: authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · absolute rule · N**ism · rightism · militarism · nationalism · xenophobia · r****m · [more] derogatory
extremely authoritarian, intolerant, or oppressive ideas or behavior: very intolerant or domineering views or practices in a particular area:
Yes, it clarifies that when purposeful blindness g... (show quote)


You obviously didn't read the article, 4th down, that you provided. It states clearly that the left, and you, are simply trying to "revise" history again. I've given you quotes from Mussolini himself and explained it to you in the simplest terms possible. Wikipedia is not factual. If you want to stay purposefully blind that's on you



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Sep 9, 2022 16:58:16   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
WEBCO wrote:
You obviously didn't read the article, 4th down, that you provided. It states clearly that the left, and you, are simply trying to "revise" history again. I've given you quotes from Mussolini himself and explained it to you in the simplest terms possible. Wikipedia is not factual. If you want to stay purposefully blind that's on you

You obviously have little reading comprehension and likely missed the earlier postings of the definition of f*****m....

fas·cism[ˈfaSHˌizəm] NOUN; an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. synonyms: authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · absolute rule · N**ism · rightism · militarism · nationalism · xenophobia · r****m · [more] derogatory extremely authoritarian, intolerant, or oppressive ideas or behavior: very intolerant or domineering views or practices in a particular area:

One can only determine that you are too entrenched in your mindset to distinguish reality from delusion.

BTW, Wikipedia never came into the conversation until you brought it up as another empty excuse. The definition posted came from data from Oxford Languages.

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Sep 9, 2022 17:09:22   #
American Vet
 
slatten49 wrote:
You obviously have little reading comprehension and likely missed the earlier postings of the definition of f*****m....

fas·cism[ˈfaSHˌizəm] NOUN; an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. synonyms: authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · absolute rule · N**ism · rightism · militarism · nationalism · xenophobia · r****m · [more] derogatory extremely authoritarian, intolerant, or oppressive ideas or behavior: very intolerant or domineering views or practices in a particular area:

One can only determine that you are too entrenched in your mindset to distinguish reality from delusion.

BTW, Wikipedia never came into the conversation until you brought it up as another empty excuse. The definition posted came from data from Oxford Languages.
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Slats:

Arguing about what any 'ism' may be is simply a name calling tactic the left uses to stir up h**e and division.

First it was "r****t", then "homophobe", then "t***sphobe", the "xenophobe", then "misogynist"......tomorrow it will be something else.

Americans need to concentrate on these problems:

Unprecedented inflation rates (just “temporary”)
Southern border crisis – flooded with i*****l a***ns and f******l
Sending billions to Iran
Afghan debacle – leaving American allies and equipment to the Taliban
Return to energy dependence – having to beg the Saudi’s to produce more
Sending our oil reserves to China
Crime surge
War on parents
Crazy l*****t policies (“birthing people”)
Pathetic foreign policy – weapons sent to Ukraine ending up on the black market
Wanted to have a “Ministry of T***h”

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Sep 10, 2022 05:07:31   #
WEBCO
 
slatten49 wrote:
You obviously have little reading comprehension and likely missed the earlier postings of the definition of f*****m....

fas·cism[ˈfaSHˌizəm] NOUN; an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization. synonyms: authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · absolute rule · N**ism · rightism · militarism · nationalism · xenophobia · r****m · [more] derogatory extremely authoritarian, intolerant, or oppressive ideas or behavior: very intolerant or domineering views or practices in a particular area:

One can only determine that you are too entrenched in your mindset to distinguish reality from delusion.

BTW, Wikipedia never came into the conversation until you brought it up as another empty excuse. The definition posted came from data from Oxford Languages.
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What edition of "Oxford languages"?

The new "revised" addition I take it.

I posted Miriam Websters definition of f*****m, and ironically, it doesn't say it's a right leaning ideology. Because it's not and never has been. You also brought up Wikipedia, that is where you got your first posted definition from.

I've read and completely comprehended your posts, I've actually countered them with facts and explanations a 3rd grader could grasp. I've explained, and shown you quotes from Benito himself that he was a socialist and on the left. That 75% of businesses, under Mussolinis reign of terror, were government owned. Second only to Russia.

I've also explained that ideologically the left believes in the collective/community and big government and governmental control. The right, conversely, believes that the individual has God given rights and freedoms. F*****m states that "nothing is outside the government" does that sound like individual freedom and liberty? The foundation of right leaning ideology.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck/tells you it's a duck...then it's probably a duck.

I can't explain it to you any clearer. You just keep believing that I'm a f*****t while demanding that I inject an experimental drug into my body. You keep censoring speech and using government agencies to silence dissent and you call conservatives f*****ts. Yet I'm lacking cognitive sk**ls...

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Sep 10, 2022 06:54:15   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
WEBCO wrote:
What edition of "Oxford languages"?

The new "revised" addition I take it.

I posted Miriam Websters definition of f*****m, and ironically, it doesn't say it's a right leaning ideology. Because it's not and never has been. You also brought up Wikipedia, that is where you got your first posted definition from.

I've read and completely comprehended your posts, I've actually countered them with facts and explanations a 3rd grader could grasp. I've explained, and shown you quotes from Benito himself that he was a socialist and on the left. That 75% of businesses, under Mussolinis reign of terror, were government owned. Second only to Russia.

I've also explained that ideologically the left believes in the collective/community and big government and governmental control. The right, conversely, believes that the individual has God given rights and freedoms. F*****m states that "nothing is outside the government" does that sound like individual freedom and liberty? The foundation of right leaning ideology.

If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck/tells you it's a duck...then it's probably a duck.

I can't explain it to you any clearer. You just keep believing that I'm a f*****t while demanding that I inject an experimental drug into my body. You keep censoring speech and using government agencies to silence dissent and you call conservatives f*****ts. Yet I'm lacking cognitive sk**ls...
What edition of "Oxford languages"? br ... (show quote)

For your further edification....https://politicalresearch.org/2016/12/12/what-is-f*****m-2

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