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Aug 20, 2022 00:18:05   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
Fourth Amendment

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Looks like Trump will have a good constitutional defense against the FBIs extreme overreach and actions concerning Mar-A-Lago. Especially concerning this most likely unconstitutional warrant. Should it get that far, I can't imagine a constitutionally based court upholding this DOJ action. An action that describes the "place" as pretty much the entire building and the "things" as anything they want to seize would not fit into a originalist interpretation of the constitution. Much like the collusion delusion, this whole fiasco will end up with the Democrats having egg on their faces, again, and Trump will win, again.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-legal-counsel-vows-fourth-amendment-based-challenge-mar-a-lago-raid-very-soon

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Aug 20, 2022 00:43:26   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Strycker wrote:
Fourth Amendment

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Looks like Trump will have a good constitutional defense against the FBIs extreme overreach and actions concerning Mar-A-Lago. Especially concerning this most likely unconstitutional warrant. Should it get that far, I can't imagine a constitutionally based court upholding this DOJ action. An action that describes the "place" as pretty much the entire building and the "things" as anything they want to seize would not fit into a originalist interpretation of the constitution. Much like the collusion delusion, this whole fiasco will end up with the Democrats having egg on their faces, again, and Trump will win, again.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-legal-counsel-vows-fourth-amendment-based-challenge-mar-a-lago-raid-very-soon
Fourth Amendment br br "The right of the peo... (show quote)


Nixon got rid of all that nonsense.
This was court ordered warrant . And they knocked instead of breaking the door down.
And how should we treat spies , t*****rs , I**********nists who sell our info to our enemies for cash ?

Why Were the Rosenbergs Executed?
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were the only spies executed during the Cold War and some question whether their sentence was fair.
JOHN SEVENSEP 19, 2018
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were executed after having been found guilty of conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges were in relation to the passing of information about the American atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were executed after having been found guilty of conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges were in relation to the passing of information about the American atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Universal History Archive/Getty Images
Few death-penalty executions can equal the controversy created by the electrocutions of spies Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in 1953. Accused of overseeing a spy network that stole American atomic secrets and handing those over to the Soviet Union, the couple were the only spies executed during the Cold War.

But were they guilty? For some, that has been in dispute for more than half a century.

Julius Rosenberg was almost certainly guilty.

By most accounts, Julius Rosenberg was an enthusiastic C*******t. His job at the Army Signal Corps Engineering Laboratories made him an enticing recruit for Soviet spies, who approached him on Labor Day, 1942.

Late in 1944, Julius became a recruiter for the Russians and oversaw several spies himself, including the one who would cause Julius’ downfall: his brother-in-law David Greenglass. Greenglass worked on the Manhattan Project at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.

After the ring was uncovered, Greenglass was arrested on June 15, 1950. He named his wife as a co-conspirator, along with Julius. Greenglass originally denied his sister Ethel was involved, but later changed his story.

Ethel Rosenberg was arrested on the courthouse steps.

Soon after, the FBI raided the Rosenberg home and arrested Julius. Ethel was later arrested while leaving a federal courthouse in New York City after testifying she had no knowledge of espionage efforts. The FBI hoped her arrest would force Julius to name names of other C*******t sympathizers.

Greenglass later told New York Times journalist Sam Roberts that he had entered into a deal with the government, implicating his sister in exchange for his wife’s immunity.

The Rosenbergs and Greenglass were all found guilty.

Sentencing guidelines gave the judge two choices for Julius and Ethel: 30 years imprisonment or execution. FBI director J. Edgar Hoover suggested a 30-year sentence for Ethel, believing she would eventually name names in jail.

But Judge Irving Kaufman chose death for both Rosenbergs. David Greenglass got a 15-year sentence, serving just over nine years.

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Cold War paranoia influenced the proceedings.

One reason for the lasting controversy about the case is due to the perceived harshness of the sentencing. Dr. Arne Kislenko, professor of history at Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada, sees the convictions as coded to a time when the United States wanted to look strong on Soviet aggression around the world, particularly during the Korean War.

“Needless to say, it was also a bit of pander to the increasingly vitriolic anti-c*******m of the period, mostly coming from Joseph McCarthy and his associates,” Kislenko says.

There has been continued doubt specifically about Ethel’s role in the spy scheme. In 2016, the Rosenberg’s sons asked President Barack Obama to pardon their mother.

“Ethel’s guilt remains a question because of a lack of documentation, both in terms of proofs offered during and after her conviction in the U.S. and in Soviet documents released decades later,” explains Kislenko. “That said, most historians think she was guilty.”

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were executed after having been found guilty of conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges were in relation to the passing of information about the American atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Bettmann Archive/Getty Images
Was justice served in the Rosenberg trial?

Kislenko points out that conspirator Morton Sobell corroborated Ethel’s involvement in 2008. Also, subsequently released Soviet KGB documents portray Ethel as a prominent participant in her husband’s activities.

“My view is that she was most certainly in-the-know about her husband’s activities and, again persuaded by KGB documentation, that she played a more active role than imagined by her defenders,” says Kislenko.

Nonetheless, Kislenko has reservations about how justice was served. “I hold fast to the fact that her trial, like Julius’s, was handled terribly with many improprieties so bad that they should never have been convicted, let alone executed.”

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Aug 20, 2022 01:48:28   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Nixon got rid of all that nonsense.
This was court ordered warrant . And they knocked instead of breaking the door down.
And how should we treat spies , t*****rs , I**********nists who sell our info to our enemies for cash ?
The magistrate judge who issued the warrant has an incestuous political relationship with the prosecutor and the DA.

The FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago violated the 4th amendment right of Donald Trump, his wife and family to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects.

Spies, t*****rs, and i**********nists who sell our info to our enemies for cash should be hung.
So where do we begin? Well, we can start with H****r B***n and "The Big Guy".
As Obama's veep, Joe blackmailed the Ukrainian president and landed "the little guy"
a very cushy, high paying job with the most corrupt corporation in Ukraine

Joe Biden’s Lies About His Son’s Burisma Dealing Are Coming Back to Haunt Him
Joe Biden’s c***ting is legendary. It goes way back to his plagiarism and c***ting to get through law school and his plagiarism and lying when he attempted to run for President in the late 1980s. Throughout this campaign, he has lied so often to cover up the criminality of the Biden Family it's almost expected and ignored by the largely compliant media. But the t***h always finds its way out in the end.

Biden has always vociferously denied having any knowledge of how his son, H****r B***n, came to be employed by one of the most crooked oligarchs in Ukraine, Mykola Zlochevsky, and his energy firm Burisma. H****r had no relevant experience. He also had a record of persistent drug addiction that included being dismissed from the U.S. Navy for failing a drug test. Despite this, H****r’s firm was paid $180,000 per month for a job that he was given at the same time that his father, who was then serving as Vice President of the United States, was put in charge of distributing billions of dollars to a then bankrupt nation.

“I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings,” Biden emphatically declared last year. It is incredible on its face.

When a v**er in Iowa asked him about the apparent conflict of interest, Biden completely lost his cool, calling the man a “damn liar” before insulting his physical appearance and challenging him to a push-up contest.

Now we know why Biden gets so angry whenever the subject of H****r’s Burisma job comes up: Not only did Joe Biden apparently know about the crooked arrangement, but he was the reason for it. It was plain and simple — a bribe so Vice President Biden would protect Burisma from seizure by the Ukrainian government.

Data recovered from H****r B***n’s laptop, including a treasure trove of revealing emails, provide damning information about the Bidens’ involvement with the gas company.

“Dear H****r, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together,” a Burisma executive named Vadym Pozharskyi wrote in an email to H****r B***n on April 17, 2015.

Roughly one year earlier, around the time H****r first joined Burisma’s Board of Directors, Pozharskyi had emailed H****r seeking “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf.

The introduction that H****r facilitated between Pozharskyi and then-Vice President Joe Biden is just one example of how he used his “influence” to advance Burisma’s interests? Among other crimes, there is no Foreign Agent registration for this or other meetings H****r set up or attended with high level government officials. If Paul Manafort can go to prison for this, what about H****r B***n? But it is far worse. This whole corrupt deal was for the elder Biden who demanded that Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin be fired or a $1 billion U.S. loan guarantee would be cancelled.

The documents recovered from the laptop, which also included lurid videos of H****r apparently engaging in illegal and d********g activities, do prove that Joe Biden has been lying to reporters, colleagues, and the American people for years.

Now, there’s a smoking gun. Biden claimed to have no clue how or why his son received a lucrative job for which he had no relevant credentials or experience. Indeed, he claimed he had never even spoken to H****r about the affair.

Yet, here we have direct evidence that H****r arranged a meeting between his father and one of Burisma’s top executives, a man who had already expressed interest in exploiting H****r’s influence just months before Joe Biden used the power of the vice presidency to remove a prosecutor who claims he was preparing to investigate the company, including members of its Board.

It fits perfectly into a larger pattern of dishonesty. Biden has spent the past few weeks aggressively refusing to answer questions about whether he would pack the Supreme Court with new radical justices and ban fracking nationwide. He believes v**ers “don’t deserve” to know his positions on those important issues, just as he obviously believes the American people don’t deserve to know about how his family members have used his positions of power within the U.S. government to enrich themselves.

Joe Biden has spent a long time running from the t***h, but it was always bound to catch up with him eventually. Now, it has.

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Aug 20, 2022 01:55:50   #
rebelwidacoz Loc: Illinois
 
Strycker wrote:
Fourth Amendment

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Looks like Trump will have a good constitutional defense against the FBIs extreme overreach and actions concerning Mar-A-Lago. Especially concerning this most likely unconstitutional warrant. Should it get that far, I can't imagine a constitutionally based court upholding this DOJ action. An action that describes the "place" as pretty much the entire building and the "things" as anything they want to seize would not fit into a originalist interpretation of the constitution. Much like the collusion delusion, this whole fiasco will end up with the Democrats having egg on their faces, again, and Trump will win, again.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-legal-counsel-vows-fourth-amendment-based-challenge-mar-a-lago-raid-very-soon
Fourth Amendment br br "The right of the peo... (show quote)

Looks like Trump will have a lousy constitutional defense ,the only question is , does his lousy constitutional defense compare to the un - constitutional lousy job he did as president.

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Aug 20, 2022 02:06:07   #
rebelwidacoz Loc: Illinois
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Nixon got rid of all that nonsense.
This was court ordered warrant . And they knocked instead of breaking the door down.
And how should we treat spies , t*****rs , I**********nists who sell our info to our enemies for cash ?

Why Were the Rosenbergs Executed?
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were the only spies executed during the Cold War and some question whether their sentence was fair.
JOHN SEVENSEP 19, 2018
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were executed after having been found guilty of conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges were in relation to the passing of information about the American atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were executed after having been found guilty of conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges were in relation to the passing of information about the American atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Universal History Archive/Getty Images
Few death-penalty executions can equal the controversy created by the electrocutions of spies Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in 1953. Accused of overseeing a spy network that stole American atomic secrets and handing those over to the Soviet Union, the couple were the only spies executed during the Cold War.

But were they guilty? For some, that has been in dispute for more than half a century.

Julius Rosenberg was almost certainly guilty.

By most accounts, Julius Rosenberg was an enthusiastic C*******t. His job at the Army Signal Corps Engineering Laboratories made him an enticing recruit for Soviet spies, who approached him on Labor Day, 1942.

Late in 1944, Julius became a recruiter for the Russians and oversaw several spies himself, including the one who would cause Julius’ downfall: his brother-in-law David Greenglass. Greenglass worked on the Manhattan Project at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.

After the ring was uncovered, Greenglass was arrested on June 15, 1950. He named his wife as a co-conspirator, along with Julius. Greenglass originally denied his sister Ethel was involved, but later changed his story.

Ethel Rosenberg was arrested on the courthouse steps.

Soon after, the FBI raided the Rosenberg home and arrested Julius. Ethel was later arrested while leaving a federal courthouse in New York City after testifying she had no knowledge of espionage efforts. The FBI hoped her arrest would force Julius to name names of other C*******t sympathizers.

Greenglass later told New York Times journalist Sam Roberts that he had entered into a deal with the government, implicating his sister in exchange for his wife’s immunity.

The Rosenbergs and Greenglass were all found guilty.

Sentencing guidelines gave the judge two choices for Julius and Ethel: 30 years imprisonment or execution. FBI director J. Edgar Hoover suggested a 30-year sentence for Ethel, believing she would eventually name names in jail.

But Judge Irving Kaufman chose death for both Rosenbergs. David Greenglass got a 15-year sentence, serving just over nine years.

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Police photograph of Physicist Klaus Fuchs. (Credit: Public Domain)
8 Spies Who Leaked Atomic Bomb Intelligence to the Soviets
25 May 1953, Nevada Test Site, Nevada, USA — “Grable” Explosion During Operation UPSHOT-KNOTHOLE — Image by © CORBIS
Cold War History
The Rosenbergs were executed by electric on June 19, 1953, at Sing Sing Prison in Ossining, New York.

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg's children
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg children, Michael, 10, and Robert, 6, reading the news about their parents in home of friends in Toms River, New Jersey.
Leonard Detrick/NY Daily News/Getty Images
Cold War paranoia influenced the proceedings.

One reason for the lasting controversy about the case is due to the perceived harshness of the sentencing. Dr. Arne Kislenko, professor of history at Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada, sees the convictions as coded to a time when the United States wanted to look strong on Soviet aggression around the world, particularly during the Korean War.

“Needless to say, it was also a bit of pander to the increasingly vitriolic anti-c*******m of the period, mostly coming from Joseph McCarthy and his associates,” Kislenko says.

There has been continued doubt specifically about Ethel’s role in the spy scheme. In 2016, the Rosenberg’s sons asked President Barack Obama to pardon their mother.

“Ethel’s guilt remains a question because of a lack of documentation, both in terms of proofs offered during and after her conviction in the U.S. and in Soviet documents released decades later,” explains Kislenko. “That said, most historians think she was guilty.”

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were executed after having been found guilty of conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges were in relation to the passing of information about the American atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Bettmann Archive/Getty Images
Was justice served in the Rosenberg trial?

Kislenko points out that conspirator Morton Sobell corroborated Ethel’s involvement in 2008. Also, subsequently released Soviet KGB documents portray Ethel as a prominent participant in her husband’s activities.

“My view is that she was most certainly in-the-know about her husband’s activities and, again persuaded by KGB documentation, that she played a more active role than imagined by her defenders,” says Kislenko.

Nonetheless, Kislenko has reservations about how justice was served. “I hold fast to the fact that her trial, like Julius’s, was handled terribly with many improprieties so bad that they should never have been convicted, let alone executed.”
Nixon got rid of all that nonsense. br This was co... (show quote)


Nixon didn't do S_ _ _ ,Nixon prosecuted himself , all the evidence against him was on Whitehouse tapes - through his own paranoia he had tapes installed in the white that he could not obviously and readily erase.

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Aug 20, 2022 02:55:14   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Strycker wrote:
Fourth Amendment

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Looks like Trump will have a good constitutional defense against the FBIs extreme overreach and actions concerning Mar-A-Lago. Especially concerning this most likely unconstitutional warrant. Should it get that far, I can't imagine a constitutionally based court upholding this DOJ action. An action that describes the "place" as pretty much the entire building and the "things" as anything they want to seize would not fit into a originalist interpretation of the constitution. Much like the collusion delusion, this whole fiasco will end up with the Democrats having egg on their faces, again, and Trump will win, again.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-legal-counsel-vows-fourth-amendment-based-challenge-mar-a-lago-raid-very-soon
Fourth Amendment br br "The right of the peo... (show quote)


Most likely right

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Aug 20, 2022 02:56:05   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Nixon got rid of all that nonsense.
This was court ordered warrant . And they knocked instead of breaking the door down.
And how should we treat spies , t*****rs , I**********nists who sell our info to our enemies for cash ?

Why Were the Rosenbergs Executed?
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were the only spies executed during the Cold War and some question whether their sentence was fair.
JOHN SEVENSEP 19, 2018
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were executed after having been found guilty of conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges were in relation to the passing of information about the American atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were executed after having been found guilty of conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges were in relation to the passing of information about the American atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Universal History Archive/Getty Images
Few death-penalty executions can equal the controversy created by the electrocutions of spies Julius and Ethel Rosenberg in 1953. Accused of overseeing a spy network that stole American atomic secrets and handing those over to the Soviet Union, the couple were the only spies executed during the Cold War.

But were they guilty? For some, that has been in dispute for more than half a century.

Julius Rosenberg was almost certainly guilty.

By most accounts, Julius Rosenberg was an enthusiastic C*******t. His job at the Army Signal Corps Engineering Laboratories made him an enticing recruit for Soviet spies, who approached him on Labor Day, 1942.

Late in 1944, Julius became a recruiter for the Russians and oversaw several spies himself, including the one who would cause Julius’ downfall: his brother-in-law David Greenglass. Greenglass worked on the Manhattan Project at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.

After the ring was uncovered, Greenglass was arrested on June 15, 1950. He named his wife as a co-conspirator, along with Julius. Greenglass originally denied his sister Ethel was involved, but later changed his story.

Ethel Rosenberg was arrested on the courthouse steps.

Soon after, the FBI raided the Rosenberg home and arrested Julius. Ethel was later arrested while leaving a federal courthouse in New York City after testifying she had no knowledge of espionage efforts. The FBI hoped her arrest would force Julius to name names of other C*******t sympathizers.

Greenglass later told New York Times journalist Sam Roberts that he had entered into a deal with the government, implicating his sister in exchange for his wife’s immunity.

The Rosenbergs and Greenglass were all found guilty.

Sentencing guidelines gave the judge two choices for Julius and Ethel: 30 years imprisonment or execution. FBI director J. Edgar Hoover suggested a 30-year sentence for Ethel, believing she would eventually name names in jail.

But Judge Irving Kaufman chose death for both Rosenbergs. David Greenglass got a 15-year sentence, serving just over nine years.

Scroll to Continue
Recommended for you
hitler-is-victory
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Police photograph of Physicist Klaus Fuchs. (Credit: Public Domain)
8 Spies Who Leaked Atomic Bomb Intelligence to the Soviets
25 May 1953, Nevada Test Site, Nevada, USA — “Grable” Explosion During Operation UPSHOT-KNOTHOLE — Image by © CORBIS
Cold War History
The Rosenbergs were executed by electric on June 19, 1953, at Sing Sing Prison in Ossining, New York.

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg's children
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg children, Michael, 10, and Robert, 6, reading the news about their parents in home of friends in Toms River, New Jersey.
Leonard Detrick/NY Daily News/Getty Images
Cold War paranoia influenced the proceedings.

One reason for the lasting controversy about the case is due to the perceived harshness of the sentencing. Dr. Arne Kislenko, professor of history at Ryerson University in Toronto, Canada, sees the convictions as coded to a time when the United States wanted to look strong on Soviet aggression around the world, particularly during the Korean War.

“Needless to say, it was also a bit of pander to the increasingly vitriolic anti-c*******m of the period, mostly coming from Joseph McCarthy and his associates,” Kislenko says.

There has been continued doubt specifically about Ethel’s role in the spy scheme. In 2016, the Rosenberg’s sons asked President Barack Obama to pardon their mother.

“Ethel’s guilt remains a question because of a lack of documentation, both in terms of proofs offered during and after her conviction in the U.S. and in Soviet documents released decades later,” explains Kislenko. “That said, most historians think she was guilty.”

Julius and Ethel Rosenberg
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg who were executed after having been found guilty of conspiracy to commit espionage. The charges were in relation to the passing of information about the American atomic bomb to the Soviet Union.
Bettmann Archive/Getty Images
Was justice served in the Rosenberg trial?

Kislenko points out that conspirator Morton Sobell corroborated Ethel’s involvement in 2008. Also, subsequently released Soviet KGB documents portray Ethel as a prominent participant in her husband’s activities.

“My view is that she was most certainly in-the-know about her husband’s activities and, again persuaded by KGB documentation, that she played a more active role than imagined by her defenders,” says Kislenko.

Nonetheless, Kislenko has reservations about how justice was served. “I hold fast to the fact that her trial, like Julius’s, was handled terribly with many improprieties so bad that they should never have been convicted, let alone executed.”
Nixon got rid of all that nonsense. br This was co... (show quote)


If you only had a brain!

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Aug 20, 2022 03:01:41   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The magistrate judge who issued the warrant has an incestuous political relationship with the prosecutor and the DA.

The FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago violated the 4th amendment right of Donald Trump, his wife and family to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects.

Spies, t*****rs, and i**********nists who sell our info to our enemies for cash should be hung.
So where do we begin? Well, we can start with H****r B***n and "The Big Guy".
As Obama's veep, Joe blackmailed the Ukrainian president and landed "the little guy"
a very cushy, high paying job with the most corrupt corporation in Ukraine

Joe Biden’s Lies About His Son’s Burisma Dealing Are Coming Back to Haunt Him
Joe Biden’s c***ting is legendary. It goes way back to his plagiarism and c***ting to get through law school and his plagiarism and lying when he attempted to run for President in the late 1980s. Throughout this campaign, he has lied so often to cover up the criminality of the Biden Family it's almost expected and ignored by the largely compliant media. But the t***h always finds its way out in the end.

Biden has always vociferously denied having any knowledge of how his son, H****r B***n, came to be employed by one of the most crooked oligarchs in Ukraine, Mykola Zlochevsky, and his energy firm Burisma. H****r had no relevant experience. He also had a record of persistent drug addiction that included being dismissed from the U.S. Navy for failing a drug test. Despite this, H****r’s firm was paid $180,000 per month for a job that he was given at the same time that his father, who was then serving as Vice President of the United States, was put in charge of distributing billions of dollars to a then bankrupt nation.

“I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings,” Biden emphatically declared last year. It is incredible on its face.

When a v**er in Iowa asked him about the apparent conflict of interest, Biden completely lost his cool, calling the man a “damn liar” before insulting his physical appearance and challenging him to a push-up contest.

Now we know why Biden gets so angry whenever the subject of H****r’s Burisma job comes up: Not only did Joe Biden apparently know about the crooked arrangement, but he was the reason for it. It was plain and simple — a bribe so Vice President Biden would protect Burisma from seizure by the Ukrainian government.

Data recovered from H****r B***n’s laptop, including a treasure trove of revealing emails, provide damning information about the Bidens’ involvement with the gas company.

“Dear H****r, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together,” a Burisma executive named Vadym Pozharskyi wrote in an email to H****r B***n on April 17, 2015.

Roughly one year earlier, around the time H****r first joined Burisma’s Board of Directors, Pozharskyi had emailed H****r seeking “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf.

The introduction that H****r facilitated between Pozharskyi and then-Vice President Joe Biden is just one example of how he used his “influence” to advance Burisma’s interests? Among other crimes, there is no Foreign Agent registration for this or other meetings H****r set up or attended with high level government officials. If Paul Manafort can go to prison for this, what about H****r B***n? But it is far worse. This whole corrupt deal was for the elder Biden who demanded that Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin be fired or a $1 billion U.S. loan guarantee would be cancelled.

The documents recovered from the laptop, which also included lurid videos of H****r apparently engaging in illegal and d********g activities, do prove that Joe Biden has been lying to reporters, colleagues, and the American people for years.

Now, there’s a smoking gun. Biden claimed to have no clue how or why his son received a lucrative job for which he had no relevant credentials or experience. Indeed, he claimed he had never even spoken to H****r about the affair.

Yet, here we have direct evidence that H****r arranged a meeting between his father and one of Burisma’s top executives, a man who had already expressed interest in exploiting H****r’s influence just months before Joe Biden used the power of the vice presidency to remove a prosecutor who claims he was preparing to investigate the company, including members of its Board.

It fits perfectly into a larger pattern of dishonesty. Biden has spent the past few weeks aggressively refusing to answer questions about whether he would pack the Supreme Court with new radical justices and ban fracking nationwide. He believes v**ers “don’t deserve” to know his positions on those important issues, just as he obviously believes the American people don’t deserve to know about how his family members have used his positions of power within the U.S. government to enrich themselves.

Joe Biden has spent a long time running from the t***h, but it was always bound to catch up with him eventually. Now, it has.
The magistrate judge who issued the warrant has an... (show quote)


What's sad is we have a media industry that's willing to turn their heads and pretend it's not real.

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Aug 20, 2022 03:03:37   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
rebelwidacoz wrote:
Looks like Trump will have a lousy constitutional defense ,the only question is , does his lousy constitutional defense compare to the un - constitutional lousy job he did as president.


What lousy job? That was Democrats screaming in the streets. Threatening Trump supporters and needing crying rooms.

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Aug 20, 2022 10:06:50   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
The magistrate judge who issued the warrant has an incestuous political relationship with the prosecutor and the DA.

The FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago violated the 4th amendment right of Donald Trump, his wife and family to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects.

Spies, t*****rs, and i**********nists who sell our info to our enemies for cash should be hung.
So where do we begin? Well, we can start with H****r B***n and "The Big Guy".
As Obama's veep, Joe blackmailed the Ukrainian president and landed "the little guy"
a very cushy, high paying job with the most corrupt corporation in Ukraine

Joe Biden’s Lies About His Son’s Burisma Dealing Are Coming Back to Haunt Him
Joe Biden’s c***ting is legendary. It goes way back to his plagiarism and c***ting to get through law school and his plagiarism and lying when he attempted to run for President in the late 1980s. Throughout this campaign, he has lied so often to cover up the criminality of the Biden Family it's almost expected and ignored by the largely compliant media. But the t***h always finds its way out in the end.

Biden has always vociferously denied having any knowledge of how his son, H****r B***n, came to be employed by one of the most crooked oligarchs in Ukraine, Mykola Zlochevsky, and his energy firm Burisma. H****r had no relevant experience. He also had a record of persistent drug addiction that included being dismissed from the U.S. Navy for failing a drug test. Despite this, H****r’s firm was paid $180,000 per month for a job that he was given at the same time that his father, who was then serving as Vice President of the United States, was put in charge of distributing billions of dollars to a then bankrupt nation.

“I have never spoken to my son about his overseas business dealings,” Biden emphatically declared last year. It is incredible on its face.

When a v**er in Iowa asked him about the apparent conflict of interest, Biden completely lost his cool, calling the man a “damn liar” before insulting his physical appearance and challenging him to a push-up contest.

Now we know why Biden gets so angry whenever the subject of H****r’s Burisma job comes up: Not only did Joe Biden apparently know about the crooked arrangement, but he was the reason for it. It was plain and simple — a bribe so Vice President Biden would protect Burisma from seizure by the Ukrainian government.

Data recovered from H****r B***n’s laptop, including a treasure trove of revealing emails, provide damning information about the Bidens’ involvement with the gas company.

“Dear H****r, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together,” a Burisma executive named Vadym Pozharskyi wrote in an email to H****r B***n on April 17, 2015.

Roughly one year earlier, around the time H****r first joined Burisma’s Board of Directors, Pozharskyi had emailed H****r seeking “advice on how you could use your influence” on the company’s behalf.

The introduction that H****r facilitated between Pozharskyi and then-Vice President Joe Biden is just one example of how he used his “influence” to advance Burisma’s interests? Among other crimes, there is no Foreign Agent registration for this or other meetings H****r set up or attended with high level government officials. If Paul Manafort can go to prison for this, what about H****r B***n? But it is far worse. This whole corrupt deal was for the elder Biden who demanded that Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin be fired or a $1 billion U.S. loan guarantee would be cancelled.

The documents recovered from the laptop, which also included lurid videos of H****r apparently engaging in illegal and d********g activities, do prove that Joe Biden has been lying to reporters, colleagues, and the American people for years.

Now, there’s a smoking gun. Biden claimed to have no clue how or why his son received a lucrative job for which he had no relevant credentials or experience. Indeed, he claimed he had never even spoken to H****r about the affair.

Yet, here we have direct evidence that H****r arranged a meeting between his father and one of Burisma’s top executives, a man who had already expressed interest in exploiting H****r’s influence just months before Joe Biden used the power of the vice presidency to remove a prosecutor who claims he was preparing to investigate the company, including members of its Board.

It fits perfectly into a larger pattern of dishonesty. Biden has spent the past few weeks aggressively refusing to answer questions about whether he would pack the Supreme Court with new radical justices and ban fracking nationwide. He believes v**ers “don’t deserve” to know his positions on those important issues, just as he obviously believes the American people don’t deserve to know about how his family members have used his positions of power within the U.S. government to enrich themselves.

Joe Biden has spent a long time running from the t***h, but it was always bound to catch up with him eventually. Now, it has.
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You know what Einstein, he had things he shouldn't have had and his wife turned him in because she s**k of his shxt. Her over it, your "greatest" President ever is a failure. Not even very smart.

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Aug 21, 2022 15:17:53   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
rebelwidacoz wrote:
Looks like Trump will have a lousy constitutional defense ,the only question is , does his lousy constitutional defense compare to the un - constitutional lousy job he did as president.


I have a project for you. I seriously doubt you have the intellectual firepower to do this by yourself, so hire someone, (it will probably be a Conservative) to look stuff up for you, read it to you and explain the big words, since this assignment is so patently above your educational level.
Here in the US we have something called the Supreme Court. (SCOTUS) They make rulings on the Constitutionality of laws, among other things. In 1988, they made a ruling on a case called Department of the Navy v Egan. In it they ruled the president has almost unlimited authority to decide what is and is not Classified material.
In these United States, we also have what are called "lower courts." These are where most issues are decided; particularly the one called Judicial Watch v National Archives and Records Administration. The DC District Court exonerated Bill Clinton for doing exactly the same thing as Trump. They ruled a president has almost unlimited authority to decide what is public (p**********l) and what is private and privileged. I would say that I am sorry to have to pee in your and other Progressives' Cornflakes, but actually I enjoy it.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/484/518/

https://casetext.com/case/judicial-watch-inc-v-natl-archives-records-admin

In general, Liberals should try and stick to commenting on subjects about which they have some knowledge. Problem is, there does not seem to be any.

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Aug 21, 2022 18:15:51   #
Justice101
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
I have a project for you. I seriously doubt you have the intellectual firepower to do this by yourself, so hire someone, (it will probably be a Conservative) to look stuff up for you, read it to you and explain the big words, since this assignment is so patently above your educational level.
Here in the US we have something called the Supreme Court. (SCOTUS) They make rulings on the Constitutionality of laws, among other things. In 1988, they made a ruling on a case called Department of the Navy v Egan. In it they ruled the president has almost unlimited authority to decide what is and is not Classified material.
In these United States, we also have what are called "lower courts." These are where most issues are decided; particularly the one called Judicial Watch v National Archives and Records Administration. The DC District Court exonerated Bill Clinton for doing exactly the same thing as Trump. They ruled a president has almost unlimited authority to decide what is public (p**********l) and what is private and privileged. I would say that I am sorry to have to pee in your and other Progressives' Cornflakes, but actually I enjoy it.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/484/518/

https://casetext.com/case/judicial-watch-inc-v-natl-archives-records-admin

In general, Liberals should try and stick to commenting on subjects about which they have some knowledge. Problem is, there does not seem to be any.
I have a project for you. I seriously doubt you ha... (show quote)


Spot On Smedley!!

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Aug 22, 2022 09:13:53   #
Ronald Hatt Loc: Lansing, Mich
 
Strycker wrote:
Fourth Amendment

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Looks like Trump will have a good constitutional defense against the FBIs extreme overreach and actions concerning Mar-A-Lago. Especially concerning this most likely unconstitutional warrant. Should it get that far, I can't imagine a constitutionally based court upholding this DOJ action. An action that describes the "place" as pretty much the entire building and the "things" as anything they want to seize would not fit into a originalist interpretation of the constitution. Much like the collusion delusion, this whole fiasco will end up with the Democrats having egg on their faces, again, and Trump will win, again.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-legal-counsel-vows-fourth-amendment-based-challenge-mar-a-lago-raid-very-soon
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many things are "going for Trump"...in the right direction, & i predict, he will prevail....

As long as the Demoncrats, can "change the focus", of thinking in this country, "OFF H****R, & THE TOTAL BIDEN CRIME MACHINE"....They will be successful in nullifying Trump!

Demoncrats, were successful in getting Hillary, Obama, off the hook of "MALFEASANCE IN OFFICE", by re-directing the focus on Trump!

How did they do that?? ? By using their mindless, irresponsible e*****rate! , , ,

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