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Aug 14, 2022 19:01:03   #
PeterS
 
eagleye13 wrote:
" As John Adams said we wish the rest of the world the best in its pursuit of liberty but are the custodians only of our own."

If only American politicians could adhere to that.

One thing I have realized for decades and keep in mind.
The Bilderberger's action arm is the Council on Foreighn Relations (CFR)
Its sister group is the Trilateral Commission (TC)

Endless War Explained In 2 Minutes

https://youtu.be/z2hRRGHBeSw

(Blocked in the USA)

The Council on Foreign Relations - James Perloff Exposes the CFR Agenda - Corbett Report
https://youtu.be/VT3BzYUZpo4


This is how the take over of BOTH parties was achieved:


Both party “leaderships” have been partners in the International Banker’s NWO/NeoCON Agenda
Both parties have promoted - NWO F*****m/Warfare & NWO Socialism (international bank funding and bailouts by taxpayers)
Both parties have been partners in working for the PRIVATE Federal Reserve Bankers. “OUR” Government bailed the Banksters out, and left the citizens/taxpayers holding the bag for Trillions.
Both parties have promoted perpetual “war”. Just pay attention to Obama’s Foreign policy; Same as the NeoCON’s foreign policy of perpetual wars; based on the phony “War on Terrorism”.
The e******n fixers have been trying to put it in place again, to eliminate all other non-owned candidates.
The banker controlled media (FOX,CNN,CBS.NBC, and ABC do all they can to install another CFR puppet. Just go to You Tube to see the prejudice and party corruption used against Ron Paul. The owned media, with their Talking Bobble Heads, are full partners in our nation’s sell out to a world socialist/f*****t dictatorship run by wannabe s***e masters.
Who will open their eyes and wake up others?
Some CFR commentary
http://www.alpheus.org/html/source_materials/parapolitics/CFR_NWO.htm

The 3,000 seats of the CFR quickly filled with members of America's elite. Today,CFR members occupy key positions in government, the mass media, financial institutions, multinational corporations, the military, and the national security apparatus.
Since its inception, the CFR has served as an intermediary between high finance, big oil, corporate elitists and the U.S. government. The executive branch changes hands between Republican and Democratic administrations, but cabinet seats are always held by CFR members. It has been said by political commentators on the left and on the right that if you want to know what U.S. foreign policy will be next year, you should read Foreign Affairs this year.
The CFR's claim that "The Council has no affiliation with the U.S. government" is laughable. The justification for that statement is that funding comes from member dues, subscriptions to its Corporate Program, foundation grants, and so forth. All this really means is that the U.S. government does not exert any control over the CFR via the purse strings.
In reality, CFR members are very tightly affiliated with the U.S. government. Since 1940, every U.S. secretary of state (except for Gov. James Byrnes of South Carolina, the sole exception) has been a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and/or its younger brother, the Trilateral Commission. Also since 1940, every secretary of war and every secretary of defense has been a CFR member. During most of its existence, the Central Intelligence Agency has been headed by CFR members, beginning with CFR founding member Allen Dulles. Virtually every key U.S. national security and foreign policy adviser has been a CFR member for the past seventy years.
Almost all White House cabinet positions are occupied by CFR members. President Clinton, himself a member of the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg Group, employs almost one hundred CFR members in his administration. Presidents come and go, but the CFR's power--and agenda--always remains.
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The CFR's Shroud of Secrecy - On its web page, the CFR boasts that its magazine, Foreign Affairs, "is acclaimed for its analysis of recent international developments and for its forecasts of emerging trends." It's not much of a challenge to do so, though, when you play a part in determining what those emerging trends will be.
This point is underscored a paragraph later on their web page: "Perhaps best known for the history-making "X" article by George Kennan, that defined Cold War containment policy, a recent Foreign Affairs article by Harvard's Samuel Huntington, "The Clash of Civilizations?" has already helped define the post-Cold War debate."
So are they predicting trends or creating them? The answer is fairly obvious to anyone who has earnestly reflected on the matter.
The CFR fancies itself to represent a diverse range cultural and political interests, but its members are predominantly wealthy males, and their policies reflect their elitist biases. The CFR attempts to maintain the charade of diversity via its Non-Attribution Rule, which allows members to engage in "a free, frank, and open exchange of ideas" without fear of having any of their statements attributed in public. The flip side of this, obviously, is a dark cloud of secrecy which envelopes the CFR's activities.
CFR meetings are usually held in secret and are restricted to members and very select guests. All members are free to express themselves at meetings unrestrained, because the Non-Attribution Rule guarantees that "others will not attribute or characterize their statements in public media forums or knowingly t***smit them to persons who will," according to the Council on Foreign Relations' 1992 Annual Report.
The report goes on to forbid any meeting participant "to publish a speaker's statement in attributed form in any newspaper; to repeat it on television or radio, or on a speaker's platform, or in a classroom; or to go beyond a memo of limited circulation."
The end result is that the only information the public has on the CFR is the information they release for public consumption, which should send up red f**gs for anyone who understands the immense effect that CFR directives have on America's foreign policy. The public knows what the CFR wants the public to know about the CFR, and nothing more. There is one hole in the fog of secrecy, however: a book entitled Tragedy and Hope, written by an "insider" named Dr. Carroll Quigley, mentor of Bill Clinton.
Google: “Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral, Commission, Bilderberg Group”
BTW; Trump was the first president in decades that did not fill his cabinet with g*******t CFR members.
" As John Adams said we wish the rest of the ... (show quote)

G*******t CFR members? So is there a conspiracy theory out there that you haven't bought into? BTW, Trump filled his cabinet with people who shouldn't be there which is why he had continuous turnover almost from the first day of his administration (Micheal Flynn for starters) and 20 more who were forced to resign in just the first year.

And that deflects from the topic at hand, how Liz Cheney is one of the few cons who are willing to stand up for the principles that this country was founded under. The rest of you stood behind Trump in his efforts at an i**********n. You didn't care, and still don't, that he lied about e******n f***d. You didn't care that over 60 judges and the Supreme Court, conservative and liberal, rejected Trump's accusations of e******n f***d. You didn't care that Trump's attorney general investigated if there was e******n f***d and found none! You didn't care that based on the United States Rule of Law that Joe Biden was legitimately elected to be president! None of that didn't matter to you. The only thing that mattered was your support of Trump in his effort to overturn a l********e e******n.

That means you support autocracy over our Democratic Republic. The only thing about the constitution that you care about is that you think it supports your right to have AR-15's and similar type rifles, and your right to impose your religious beliefs over others... even though you, yourself, don't follow them. And of course, you care about your conspiracy theories, and you believe them with all your heart, even though they are best served by the mentally ill...that be you.

So the question begged is that if you are in pursuit of liberty why do you reject those who stand for it and embrace those who are against it? Explain that, without any conspiracy theories if you don't mind...

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Aug 14, 2022 19:19:16   #
PeterS
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
She has only two main interests. One is her unbridled h**e for Trump and the other is herself. Her only chance in running for President is as a Democrat or an Independent.


H**e for Trump? If you listened to any of the hearings you would know Cheney's actions have nothing to do with h**e and everything to do with the Constitution and what Trump stands for. How have you developed your impression of Cheney? She v**ed for Trump and supported the majority of his legislation. She has a better conservative v****g record than Marjory Taylor Green. Yet you believe that her motivation is that she h**es Trump?

I believe she thinks her conservative belief system is more important than remaining a part of a very sick and warped Republican party. The question begged is why do so many of you want to be part of it???

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Aug 14, 2022 22:12:08   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
G*******t CFR members? So is there a conspiracy theory out there that you haven't bought into? BTW, Trump filled his cabinet with people who shouldn't be there which is why he had continuous turnover almost from the first day of his administration (Micheal Flynn for starters) and 20 more who were forced to resign in just the first year.

And that deflects from the topic at hand, how Liz Cheney is one of the few cons who are willing to stand up for the principles that this country was founded under. The rest of you stood behind Trump in his efforts at an i**********n. You didn't care, and still don't, that he lied about e******n f***d. You didn't care that over 60 judges and the Supreme Court, conservative and liberal, rejected Trump's accusations of e******n f***d. You didn't care that Trump's attorney general investigated if there was e******n f***d and found none! You didn't care that based on the United States Rule of Law that Joe Biden was legitimately elected to be president! None of that didn't matter to you. The only thing that mattered was your support of Trump in his effort to overturn a l********e e******n.

That means you support autocracy over our Democratic Republic. The only thing about the constitution that you care about is that you think it supports your right to have AR-15's and similar type rifles, and your right to impose your religious beliefs over others... even though you, yourself, don't follow them. And of course, you care about your conspiracy theories, and you believe them with all your heart, even though they are best served by the mentally ill...that be you.

So the question begged is that if you are in pursuit of liberty why do you reject those who stand for it and embrace those who are against it? Explain that, without any conspiracy theories if you don't mind...
G*******t CFR members? So is there a conspiracy th... (show quote)


Hey yo, since when is it illegal to charge e******n f***d ? Democrats did it after the 2,000 e******n when Gore lost. Democrats invented Ruskie-Trump Collusion to splain Mighty Hillary striking out in 2016. So spare us your indelicate chatter.

As far as the turn over in the Trump Administration, so what ? If your knuckle head Joe wasn't afraid to fire people perhaps his 2 and a half years wouldn't have been just a series of disasters.

You guys are the autocrats, not us. You use Environmental Law to oppress the states. You intentionally over run the border states with millions of Biden I******s.

Go project your autocratic horse manure back at yourselves.

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Aug 14, 2022 22:41:09   #
PeterS
 
Oh come now Blade, you MAGA mob members have abandoned a Republican form of government for one of the most corrupt forms of government there is--an autocracy. The problem is that you can't see what you've become and individuals such as Cheney who still stand for the principles this country was founded under, you attack and attack for no reason that you don't understand just what it is you've become.

Our constitution is something that you've abandoned and the rule of law is something that you ignore. Trump's attorney general investigated if there was fraud and found none. Trump-appointed e******n officials said there was no fraud plus Trump was told repeatedly by members of his cabinet and by his own daughter that there was no fraud yet he continued to spread misinformation about the e******n and the moronic members of MAGA continued to believe everything that he said.

Do you see the problem here? You MAGA morons have been so brainwashed that you can no longer think for yourselves! Your leader is so corrupt that he ignores the t***h, spreads lies, and you have so little cognitive ability left that you can't understand how you are being used and individuals such as Cheney, who does see what's going on you attack, label her a RINO, and seek to drive out of the Republican party.

So whether Trump comes back or not, whoever represents Republicans you will treat as an autocrat which is against any Republican form of government...a form of government you rejected all because you think a strong man thug much superior to one elected through the democratic process.

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Aug 14, 2022 22:43:36   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh come now Blade, you MAGA mob members have abandoned a Republican form of government for one of the most corrupt forms of government there is--an autocracy. The problem is that you can't see what you've become and individuals such as Cheney who still stand for the principles this country was founded under, you attack and attack for no reason that you don't understand just what it is you've become.

Our constitution is something that you've abandoned and the rule of law is something that you ignore. Trump's attorney general investigated if there was fraud and found none. Trump-appointed e******n officials said there was no fraud plus Trump was told repeatedly by members of his cabinet and by his own daughter that there was no fraud yet he continued to spread misinformation about the e******n and the moronic members of MAGA continued to believe everything that he said.

Do you see the problem here? You MAGA morons have been so brainwashed that you can no longer think for yourselves! Your leader is so corrupt that he ignores the t***h, spreads lies, and you have so little cognitive ability left that you can't understand how you are being used and individuals such as Cheney, who does see what's going on you attack, label her a RINO, and seek to drive out of the Republican party.

So whether Trump comes back or not, whoever represents Republicans you will treat as an autocrat which is against any Republican form of government...a form of government you rejected all because you think a strong man thug much superior to one elected through the democratic process.
Oh come now Blade, you MAGA mob members have aband... (show quote)


It is not unconstitutional to make fraud allegations. Where do you get that it is ?

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Aug 15, 2022 00:12:43   #
federally indicted mattoid
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh come now Blade, you MAGA mob members have abandoned a Republican form of government for one of the most corrupt forms of government there is--an autocracy. The problem is that you can't see what you've become and individuals such as Cheney who still stand for the principles this country was founded under, you attack and attack for no reason that you don't understand just what it is you've become.

Our constitution is something that you've abandoned and the rule of law is something that you ignore. Trump's attorney general investigated if there was fraud and found none. Trump-appointed e******n officials said there was no fraud plus Trump was told repeatedly by members of his cabinet and by his own daughter that there was no fraud yet he continued to spread misinformation about the e******n and the moronic members of MAGA continued to believe everything that he said.

Do you see the problem here? You MAGA morons have been so brainwashed that you can no longer think for yourselves! Your leader is so corrupt that he ignores the t***h, spreads lies, and you have so little cognitive ability left that you can't understand how you are being used and individuals such as Cheney, who does see what's going on you attack, label her a RINO, and seek to drive out of the Republican party.

So whether Trump comes back or not, whoever represents Republicans you will treat as an autocrat which is against any Republican form of government...a form of government you rejected all because you think a strong man thug much superior to one elected through the democratic process.
Oh come now Blade, you MAGA mob members have aband... (show quote)



If they weren't cowards, they'd answer.

I'm expecting a bunch of "whataboutisms" or ignorant claims they heard on faux news. Been observing too long not to think otherwise.

Good questions Peter

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Aug 15, 2022 06:39:41   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
son of witless wrote:
It is not unconstitutional to make fraud allegations. Where do you get that it is ?




PeterS' conclusions are the facts and the end of all arguments. You should know that by now. There is no further discussion.

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Aug 15, 2022 09:05:07   #
son of witless
 
crazylibertarian wrote:
PeterS' conclusions are the facts and the end of all arguments. You should know that by now. There is no further discussion.


There is never a smidgen of self examination or feelings of hypocrisy.

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Aug 15, 2022 11:38:02   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
son of witless wrote:
There is never a smidgen of self examination or feelings of hypocrisy.



Absolutely.

This contrasts with what Christians accept; that we are all sinners and hypocrites; that not one of us, stands above another in God's eyes.

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Aug 15, 2022 17:03:13   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
The Brain-Dead Fanatic
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/07/lew-rockwell/the-brain-dead-fanatic/

The philosopher George Santayana said that fanaticism “consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim,” and by this definition, brain-dead Biden and the gang of neocons who control him certainly count as fanatics. Their policies have failed but they won’t stop. They go on with disastrous ideas that don’t work.

Biden wanted to choke off Russia’s economy through sanctions, but his policy has aided the Russian economy and hurt the American economy. As the great Dr. Ron Paul says, “Last week a New York Times reporter asked Biden how long he expects Americans to pay record gasoline prices over his Administration’s Ukraine policy. ‘As long as it takes,’ replied the president without hesitation.

‘Russia cannot defeat Ukraine,’ added Biden as justification for his Administration’s pro-pain policy toward Americans. The president has repeatedly tried to deflect blame for the growing economic crisis by claiming Russia is solely behind recent inflation. ‘The reason why gas prices are up is because of Russia. Russia, Russia, Russia,’ he said in the same press conference.

Brian Deese, Director of President Biden’s National Economic Council, was asked in a recent CNN interview, ‘What do you say to those families that say, listen, we can’t afford to pay $4.85 a gallon for months, if not years?’

His answer? ‘This is about the future of the Liberal World Order and we have to stand firm.’

Has there ever been an Administration more out of touch with the American people? If you asked working Americans whether they’d be happy to suffer poverty for the ‘liberal world order,’ how many would say ‘that sounds like a great idea’?

The strangest part of this idea that Americans must suffer to hurt the Russians is that these policies aren’t even hurting Russia! On the contrary: Russia has seen record profits from its oil and gas exports since the beginning of the Ukraine war.

According to a recent New York Times article, increasing global oil and gas prices have enabled Russia to finance its war on Ukraine. US sanctions did not bring the Russian economy to its knees, as Biden promised. They actually brought the American economy to its knees while Russian profits soared.

As Newsweek noted last week, Russian television pundits are joking that with the financial windfall Russia has seen since sanctions were imposed, ‘Biden is of course our agent.’

Washington’s bi-partisan foreign policy of wasting trillions on endless wars overseas has finally come home. Biden is clearly out of touch, but there is plenty of blame to go around. The only question is whether we will see an extended recession…or worse.”

Biden wants to support the Ukraine against Russia, but Russia is winning, The great military historian and friend of the Mises Institute Martin van Creveld says, “Like almost all other Westerners, at the time the Russian-Ukrainian War broke out in February 2022 I was convinced that the Russians would fail to reach their objectives and lose the war. . . Since then four very eventful months have passed. As they went on, the following factors have forced me to take another look at the situation.

First, the Ukrainians are not fighting a guerrilla war. Instead, as the list of weapons they have asked the West to provide them with shows, they have been trying to wage a conventional one: tank against tank, artillery barrel against artillery barrel, and aircraft against aircraft. All, apparently, in the hope of not only halting the Russian forces but of expelling them. Given that the Russians can fire ten rounds for every Ukrainian one, such a strategy can only be a sure recipe for defeat.

Second, a change in Russian tactics. Greatly underestimating their enemies, the Russians started the war by attempting a c**p de main against the center of Ukrainian power at Kiev. When this failed it took them some time to decide what to do next; they may even have replaced a few of their top ranking generals. But then they regrouped and switched to the systematic reduction of Ukrainians cities and towns. Much as, in 1939-40, Stalin and his generals did to Finland. As in both that war and World War II as a whole they resorted to what has traditionally been their most powerful weapons, i.e, massed artillery. It now appears that the change enabled them to reduce their losses to levels that they can sustain for a long time. Perhaps longer than the Ukrainians who, by Zelensky’s own admission, are losing as many as 100-200 of their best fighters k**led in action each day.

Third, Western military technology, especially anti-aircraft weapons, anti-tank weapons, and drones may be excellent. However, limited numbers, the result of years and years of parsimony and the belief that war in Europe had become impossible, plus the need to retrain the relevant Ukrainian personnel, means that it has been slow to arrive in the places where it is most needed. Not to mention the fact that, whereas the Russians are fighting close to home, NATOs lines of communication stretch over hundreds of miles all the way from Ukraine’s borders with Poland, Slovakia and Romania in the west to the Donbas in the east. Almost all the terrain in between is flat, devoid of shelter, and thinly populated. Meaning that it is ideal for the employment of airpower, precisely the field in which Russian superiority over Ukraine is most pronounced.

Fourth, strict censorship is making the impact of Western economic sanctions on Russia’s population hard to asses. If there is any grumbling, it is being energetically suppressed. Meanwhile, a look at the macroeconomics seems to show that Russia is coping much better than many Westerners expected. Gold reserves have been inching up, enabling Putin to link his currency to gold—the first country to do so since Switzerland went in the opposite direction back in 1999. The Ruble, which early in the war came close to collapse, is back to a seven-year high against the dollar, trend upward. Given the fall in imports as well as the tremendous rise in energy prices, more money is flowing into Russia’s coffers than ever before. Most of that money comes from selling energy, foodstuffs and raw materials to countries such as China and India. China in turn is now the world’s number one industrial power; once its current troubles with C****-** are over, it should be well able to provide Russia with almost any kind of industrial product it needs, and do so for a long time to come.

Fifth, the economic impact of the war on the West has been much greater than anyone thought. Saving Ukraine form Russian’s clutches is not like doing the same with Afghanistan. On both sides of the Atlantic inflation is higher than it has been at any time since 1980. Especially in regard to energy, which Russia is refusing to provide Europe with, it is giving rise not just to confusion but to some real hardship. Should it continue, as it almost certainly will, it will give rise to growing popular discontent with the war and demands that their countries’ involvement in it be reduced or brought to an end. Even if that end means abandoning Ukraine and allowing Putin to have his way with it.

Last not least, beginning with the Enlightenment the West has long preened itself on being a fortress where liberty, law and justice prevail. Now the repeated, highly publicized, requisitioning of the property of so-called oligarchs is beginning to make some people wonder. First, no one knows what an ‘oligarch’ is. Second, the fact that some ‘oligarchs’ have been in more or less close touch with Putin over the years does not automatically turn them into criminals. Third, supposing they are criminals, it is not at all clear why they were left alone for so long and only began to be targeted after the war broke out. Could it be that, in combating the oligarchs, the West is undermining the justice of its cause?

To be sure, we are not there yet. But as growing number of statements that the war is going to be a long one show, it is now primarily a question of who can draw the deepest breath and hold out the longest. And when it comes to that, Russia’s prospects of coming out on top and obtaining a favorable settlement are not at all bad.” See this.

A leading British strategic institute also says that Russia is winning: “The war in Ukraine risks turning into a protracted conflict that Russia will eventually win, a leading think-tank has said.

The report by the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) warned that current Russian advantages and Ukrainian weaknesses are leading to a style of conflict that favours Moscow.

The invasion is developing into a war of attrition, the authors said, where each side attempts to break down the other through continuous and ongoing losses of, personnel, troops and equipment.

After failing to take the capital of Kyiv, Russia’s forces have concentrated their attack on the south eastern Donbas region, and have managed to gain control of a number of cities in Luhansk and Donetsk.

The city of Lysychansk was claimed by Russian forces on Sunday, bringing an end to one of the biggest battles in Europe for generations, which saw Moscow bring the full might of its ground forces to a small area of the frontline.”

As the distinguished foreign policy expert Professor John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago has pointed out, Russia doesn’t want to conquer all of the Ukraine. Russia’s main aim is to keep the Ukraine out of NATO: “On 16 June, University of Chicago Professor John J. Mearsheimer visited Villa Schifanoia in Florence to discuss the current Russian invasion on Ukraine whilst exploring the potential causes and consequences of the crisis.

The event, that was organised by the Robert Schuman Centre and the Department of History, gathered almost 200 attendees in person and online.

The political scientist, well known for his realist approach, argued that the United States was principally responsible for causing the Ukraine crisis, even if Putin was the one starting the war and the person responsible for Russia’s conduct on the battlefield: ‘My key point is that the United States pushed forward policies towards Ukraine that Putin and his colleagues see as existential threat to their country […] specifically I am talking about America’s obsession with bringing Ukraine into NATO and making it a Western bulwark on Russia’s border.’

Professor Mearsheimer insisted that Moscow was not interested in making Ukraine part of Russia, but in making sure it would not become a springboard from Western aggression; and that Russia could not feel safe, develop and exist while facing a permanent threat from the territory of today’s Ukraine. He insisted that despite the Western narrative about NATO, the determinant aspect to understand the root causes of this conflict is how Moscow sees the alliance’s actions.”

Despite these manifest failures, brain-dead Biden and his gang of neocons persist in their policies. Can there be greater fanaticism and madness than this?

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Aug 15, 2022 18:13:02   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
PeterS wrote:
Oh come now Blade, you MAGA mob members have abandoned a Republican form of government for one of the most corrupt forms of government there is--an autocracy. The problem is that you can't see what you've become and individuals such as Cheney who still stand for the principles this country was founded under, you attack and attack for no reason that you don't understand just what it is you've become.

Our constitution is something that you've abandoned and the rule of law is something that you ignore. Trump's attorney general investigated if there was fraud and found none. Trump-appointed e******n officials said there was no fraud plus Trump was told repeatedly by members of his cabinet and by his own daughter that there was no fraud yet he continued to spread misinformation about the e******n and the moronic members of MAGA continued to believe everything that he said.

Do you see the problem here? You MAGA morons have been so brainwashed that you can no longer think for yourselves! Your leader is so corrupt that he ignores the t***h, spreads lies, and you have so little cognitive ability left that you can't understand how you are being used and individuals such as Cheney, who does see what's going on you attack, label her a RINO, and seek to drive out of the Republican party.

So whether Trump comes back or not, whoever represents Republicans you will treat as an autocrat which is against any Republican form of government...a form of government you rejected all because you think a strong man thug much superior to one elected through the democratic process.
Oh come now Blade, you MAGA mob members have aband... (show quote)



And the pot always calls the kettle black.

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