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Aug 8, 2022 16:19:48   #
Kevyn
 
77Reaganite wrote:
The same could be said for you we don't know what to believe anymore because the media hasn't told the t***h in so long they wouldn't know what the t***h is if it smacked them in the face!

Legitimate media tells the t***h and prints retractions what mistakes are made and they fire reporters who violate journalistic standards. Real Raw News is a garbage source that deliberately lies to mislead those foolish enough to read them.

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Aug 8, 2022 17:20:34   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
billlingle wrote:
The fact remains that taxes are the price of civilization and public order. The problem is that those with the most have played the system for so long and at such a level that they pay the very least, percentage wise, of any group other than those who make too little to pay any tax at all.


Federal taxes are frauds perpetuated on We the People by NGOs.
Federal taxes are voluntary.

You cannot dispute this with counter proofs. You can only consent to their frauds or just say No!

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Aug 8, 2022 17:55:21   #
WEBCO
 
Kevyn wrote:
Legitimate media tells the t***h and prints retractions what mistakes are made and they fire reporters who violate journalistic standards. Real Raw News is a garbage source that deliberately lies to mislead those foolish enough to read them.


So you have finally agreed that CNN, the NY times, USA today, and the rest of the MSM are not legitimate news agencies. Wow you have seen the light and now understand that you've been lied to for years.

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Aug 8, 2022 17:58:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Federal taxes are frauds perpetuated on We the People by NGOs.
Federal taxes are voluntary.

You cannot dispute this with counter proofs. You can only consent to their frauds or just say No!


Don't you trump troops ever feel how dumb you are? People spend time in prison for not paying taxes.. westly Snips was just one example. For over 100 years income tax has been the law of the land. in that time anyone with half a brain would know that if not lawful it would have been ended long ago..

Try and think long enough to read some of this material..

https://www.irs.gov/privacy-disclosure/the-t***h-about-frivolous-arguments-section-i-a-to-c, It gets to the voluntary wording very quick..

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Aug 8, 2022 18:01:37   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
The Law: The word "voluntary," as used in Flora and in IRS publications, refers to our system of allowing taxpayers initially to determine the correct amount of tax and complete the appropriate returns, rather than have the government determine tax for them from the outset. The requirement to file an income tax return is not voluntary and is clearly set forth in sections 6011(a), 6012(a), et seq., and 6072(a) of the Internal Revenue Code. See also Treas. Reg. § 1.6011-1(a).

Any taxpayer who has received more than a statutorily determined amount of gross income in a given tax year is obligated to file a return for that tax year. Failure to file a tax return could subject the non-compliant individual to civil and/or criminal penalties, including fines and imprisonment. In United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10th Cir. 1986), the court stated that, "although Treasury regulations establish voluntary compliance as the general method of income tax collection, Congress gave the Secretary of the Treasury the power to enforce the income tax laws through involuntary collection. . . . The IRS' efforts to obtain compliance with the tax laws are entirely proper." The IRS warned taxpayers of the consequences of making this frivolous argument in Rev. Rul. 2007-20, 2007-1 C.B. 863 and in Notice 2010-33, 2010-17 I.R.B. 609.

Relevant Case Law:

Helvering v. Mitchell, 303 U.S. 391, 399 (1938) – the Supreme Court stated that "[i]n assessing income taxes, the Government relies primarily upon the disclosure by the taxpayer of the relevant facts. . . . in his annual return. To ensure full and honest disclosure, to discourage fraudulent attempts to evade the tax, Congress imposes [either criminal or civil] sanctions."

United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10th Cir. 1986) – the Tenth Circuit upheld a conviction for willfully failing to file a return, stating that the premise "that the tax system is somehow 'voluntary' . . . is incorrect."

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Aug 8, 2022 18:05:08   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
permafrost wrote:
Don't you trump troops ever feel how dumb you are? People spend time in prison for not paying taxes.. westly Snips was just one example. For over 100 years income tax has been the law of the land. in that time anyone with half a brain would know that if not lawful it would have been ended long ago..

Try and think long enough to read some of this material..

https://www.irs.gov/privacy-disclosure/the-t***h-about-frivolous-arguments-section-i-a-to-c, It gets to the voluntary wording very quick..
Don't you trump troops ever feel how dumb you are?... (show quote)


They went to jail due to their ignorance of the law. they sign the IRS paperwork recognizing them. why do you think most people who know the law don't pay taxes or very little as an offer accepted in compromise.
It's the law only if you know it and pursue it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8cpwZQLs-k&t=1s Now you too can WTFU!

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Aug 8, 2022 18:14:36   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
[quote=permafrost]The Law: The word "voluntary," as used in Flora and in IRS publications, refers to our system of allowing taxpayers initially to determine the correct amount of tax and complete the appropriate returns, rather than have the government determine tax for them from the outset. The requirement to file an income tax return is not voluntary and is clearly set forth in sections 6011(a), 6012(a), et seq., and 6072(a) of the Internal Revenue Code. See also Treas. Reg. § 1.6011-1(a).

Any taxpayer who has received more than a statutorily determined amount of gross income in a given tax year is obligated to file a return for that tax year. Failure to file a tax return could subject the non-compliant individual to civil and/or criminal penalties, including fines and imprisonment. In United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10th Cir. 1986), the court stated that, "although Treasury regulations establish voluntary compliance as the general method of income tax collection, Congress gave the Secretary of the Treasury the power to enforce the income tax laws through involuntary collection. . . . The IRS' efforts to obtain compliance with the tax laws are entirely proper." The IRS warned taxpayers of the consequences of making this frivolous argument in Rev. Rul. 2007-20, 2007-1 C.B. 863 and in Notice 2010-33, 2010-17 I.R.B. 609.

Relevant Case Law:

Helvering v. Mitchell, 303 U.S. 391, 399 (1938) – the Supreme Court stated that "[i]n assessing income taxes, the Government relies primarily upon the disclosure by the taxpayer of the relevant facts. . . . in his annual return. To ensure full and honest disclosure, to discourage fraudulent attempts to evade the tax, Congress imposes [either criminal or civil] sanctions."

United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10th Cir. 1986) – the Tenth Circuit upheld a conviction for willfully failing to file a return, stating that the premise "that the tax system is somehow 'voluntary' . . . is incorrect."[/quote]

BTW MR, c*******t/socialist > " The InternalRevenue Service is considered to be a Bureau of the Department of the Treasury; however, like the Federal Reserve, it is not part of the Federal Government. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS, et al., CV-93-405E- EJE - U.S.D.C.D.I; Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148, page 5967; Reorganization Plan No. 26; Public Law 102-391---and is in fact incorporated in Delaware ...." ("Internal Revenue Service" was incorporated in 1925, the Municipal "IRS" was incorporated in 1933.)
This is why Taxes are voluntary to an NGO - Non-Governmental Organization... but you have to know your standing in their law. Don't hire a BAR attorney, only counsel...

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Aug 8, 2022 18:18:36   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Ri-chard wrote:
They went to jail due to their ignorance of the law. they sign the IRS paperwork recognizing them. why do you think most people who know the law don't pay taxes or very little as an offer accepted in compromise.
It's the law only if you know it and pursue it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8cpwZQLs-k&t=1s Now you too can WTFU!


Snips used a gaggle of lawyers and appeals.. why do you bother to insist on this long debunked story? Did you read the little I posted about the "voluntary" and what it means?

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Aug 8, 2022 18:21:09   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Ri-chard wrote:
BTW MR, c*******t/socialist > " The InternalRevenue Service is considered to be a Bureau of the Department of the Treasury; however, like the Federal Reserve, it is not part of the Federal Government. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS, et al., CV-93-405E- EJE - U.S.D.C.D.I; Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148, page 5967; Reorganization Plan No. 26; Public Law 102-391---and is in fact incorporated in Delaware ...." ("Internal Revenue Service" was incorporated in 1925, the Municipal "IRS" was incorporated in 1933.)
This is why Taxes are voluntary to an NGO - Non-Governmental Organization... but you have to know your standing in their law. Don't hire a BAR attorney, only counsel...
BTW MR, c*******t/socialist > " The Intern... (show quote)


I will also mention that BAR has nothing to do with "British"

You best do some reading.. your comments are addressed in the link I posted , read and stay out of prison..

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Aug 8, 2022 18:25:03   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Maybe more people will share this as well.
" The Internal Revenue Service is considered to be a Bureau of the Department of the Treasury; however, like the Federal Reserve, it is not part of the Federal Government. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS, et al., CV-93-405E- EJE - U.S.D.C.D.I; Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148, page 5967; Reorganization Plan No. 26; Public Law 102-391---and is in fact incorporated in Delaware ...." ("Internal Revenue Service" was incorporated in 1925, the Municipal "IRS" was incorporated in 1933.)

The Franking Privilege
"It is pointed out that all official Federal Government mail is sent postage-free because of the
franking privilege; however, the IRS has to pay their own postage, which [again] indicates that they are not a government entity."

"They [the Internal Revenue Service/IRS] are in fact a collection agency for the Federal Reserve, because they do not collect any taxes for the U.S. Treasury.
All funds collected [by the IRS working under color of law "as" a Treasury "Bureau" and collecting funds under false pretense as the funds are collected under what appears to be a Treasury presentment] are turned over to the Federal Reserve. If you have ever sent a check to the IRS, you will find that it was endorsed over to the Federal Reserve."

"The Federal Reserve, in turn, deposits the money with the International Monetary Fund, an
Agency of the United Nations (Black's Law Dictionary, 6th Edition, page 816.) where it is
filtered down to the International Development Association (see Treasury Delegation Order No. 91) which is part of the "International Bank for Reconstruction and Development" --- commonly known now as the World Bank."
Bottom line --- the so-called "Internal Revenue Service" is not now and never has been a part of our government and has been deceitfully misrepresented as such by our British Territorial and Municipal United States subcontractors.
Maybe more people will share this as well. br &quo... (show quote)


This new IRS empowerment is to go after cash pay employees and those hiring them, especially along the border. Mostly small businesses.

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Aug 8, 2022 18:32:19   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
[quote=permafrost]The Law: The word "voluntary," as used in Flora and in IRS publications, refers to our system of allowing taxpayers initially to determine the correct amount of tax and complete the appropriate returns, rather than have the government determine tax for them from the outset. The requirement to file an income tax return is not voluntary and is clearly set forth in sections 6011(a), 6012(a), et seq., and 6072(a) of the Internal Revenue Code. See also Treas. Reg. § 1.6011-1(a).

Any taxpayer who has received more than a statutorily determined amount of gross income in a given tax year is obligated to file a return for that tax year. Failure to file a tax return could subject the non-compliant individual to civil and/or criminal penalties, including fines and imprisonment. In United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10th Cir. 1986), the court stated that, "although Treasury regulations establish voluntary compliance as the general method of income tax collection, Congress gave the Secretary of the Treasury the power to enforce the income tax laws through involuntary collection. . . . The IRS' efforts to obtain compliance with the tax laws are entirely proper." The IRS warned taxpayers of the consequences of making this frivolous argument in Rev. Rul. 2007-20, 2007-1 C.B. 863 and in Notice 2010-33, 2010-17 I.R.B. 609.

Relevant Case Law:

Helvering v. Mitchell, 303 U.S. 391, 399 (1938) – the Supreme Court stated that "[i]n assessing income taxes, the Government relies primarily upon the disclosure by the taxpayer of the relevant facts. . . . in his annual return. To ensure full and honest disclosure, to discourage fraudulent attempts to evade the tax, Congress imposes [either criminal or civil] sanctions."

United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10th Cir. 1986) – the Tenth Circuit upheld a conviction for willfully failing to file a return, stating that the premise "that the tax system is somehow 'voluntary' . . . is incorrect."[/quote]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zsf-iR76YE&t=115s If you don't understand taxes are unconstitutional then pay them to the NGO. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zsf-iR76YE&t=115s

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Aug 8, 2022 18:35:34   #
billlingle
 
Ri-chard wrote:
Federal taxes are frauds perpetuated on We the People by NGOs.
Federal taxes are voluntary.

You cannot dispute this with counter proofs. You can only consent to their frauds or just say No!



Yeah, that's a good idea. Have you tried it? Give it a try and after experiencing your bank account being seized, your credit tank, liens being put on your assets and a general over-all nightmare you just might discover how totally wrong you are.

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Aug 8, 2022 18:38:21   #
billlingle
 
[quote=permafrost]The Law: The word "voluntary," as used in Flora and in IRS publications, refers to our system of allowing taxpayers initially to determine the correct amount of tax and complete the appropriate returns, rather than have the government determine tax for them from the outset. The requirement to file an income tax return is not voluntary and is clearly set forth in sections 6011(a), 6012(a), et seq., and 6072(a) of the Internal Revenue Code. See also Treas. Reg. § 1.6011-1(a).

Any taxpayer who has received more than a statutorily determined amount of gross income in a given tax year is obligated to file a return for that tax year. Failure to file a tax return could subject the non-compliant individual to civil and/or criminal penalties, including fines and imprisonment. In United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10th Cir. 1986), the court stated that, "although Treasury regulations establish voluntary compliance as the general method of income tax collection, Congress gave the Secretary of the Treasury the power to enforce the income tax laws through involuntary collection. . . . The IRS' efforts to obtain compliance with the tax laws are entirely proper." The IRS warned taxpayers of the consequences of making this frivolous argument in Rev. Rul. 2007-20, 2007-1 C.B. 863 and in Notice 2010-33, 2010-17 I.R.B. 609.

Relevant Case Law:

Helvering v. Mitchell, 303 U.S. 391, 399 (1938) – the Supreme Court stated that "[i]n assessing income taxes, the Government relies primarily upon the disclosure by the taxpayer of the relevant facts. . . . in his annual return. To ensure full and honest disclosure, to discourage fraudulent attempts to evade the tax, Congress imposes [either criminal or civil] sanctions."

United States v. Tedder, 787 F.2d 540, 542 (10th Cir. 1986) – the Tenth Circuit upheld a conviction for willfully failing to file a return, stating that the premise "that the tax system is somehow 'voluntary' . . . is incorrect."[/quote]



What do you want to bet that some i***t will write and say that you are wrong?

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Aug 8, 2022 18:40:36   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
billlingle wrote:
What do you want to bet that some i***t will write and say that you are wrong?


Already done,, sure did not take long.. bet he did not follow the link...

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Aug 8, 2022 18:40:41   #
billlingle
 
Give it a try and keep me posted. If I ever get a call from you my bet is that it will be collect from some jail or holding facility screaming that they can't do this to me.

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