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What We Must Do to Restore Confidence in Our E******ns
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Aug 5, 2022 15:12:27   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
In person v****g with a valid vetted citizen ID


Remember that Trump used Absentee v****g himself

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Aug 5, 2022 15:20:41   #
ACP45 Loc: Rhode Island
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Remember that Trump used Absentee v****g himself


Jimpack,
Absentee v****g is not the problem. Don't conflate Absentee v****g with "b****t drop off boxes", and expanded mail in v****g with b****ts being mailed to every Tom, Dick, and Harry (live ones and dead ones)! If you have a valid need for Absentee v****g, by all means avail yourself of that option (under conditions like set forth in Alabama below), otherwide, IN PERSON ONLY with signature checks! AGREE?????



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Aug 5, 2022 16:18:32   #
PeterS
 
vernon wrote:
Lol lol ,I guess you liars will blame us for this crap you elected namely FJB. Now just look at what is being said and you will know who the liars are.

Bad presidents will always be elected but that doesn't challenge the confidence in our e******n system...the next e******n will just cure the problem. But so long as we choose to believe a lie over t***h don't ask the question on how to restore confidence unless you are prepared for the answer...

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Aug 5, 2022 16:20:06   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
permafrost wrote:
When the red states write v****g laws that are not intended to restrict segments of the population from v****g, those laws will stand..


How did the little effer survive the birth process?

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Aug 5, 2022 16:25:13   #
PeterS
 
permafrost wrote:
That would clearly be a starting point.. be difficult to agree judging from the posts over the years.. but I would like to see it done..


It's not so much a problem of dishonest politicians as the people who want to believe them. That's where the Trump's come from and that's what will bring him back--or the next one like him or worse.

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Aug 5, 2022 16:30:18   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
PeterS wrote:
Bad presidents will always be elected but that doesn't challenge the confidence in our e******n system...the next e******n will just cure the problem. But so long as we choose to believe a lie over t***h don't ask the question on how to restore confidence unless you are prepared for the answer...


If I were you I'd take a good look in the mirror, cause just because you believe it and you think that the politicians you v**e for, are the people telling the t***h, then you may have a problem yourself.

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Aug 5, 2022 16:42:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
PeterS wrote:
It's not so much a problem of dishonest politicians as the people who want to believe them. That's where the Trump's come from and that's what will bring him back--or the next one like him or worse.


very true...

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Aug 5, 2022 16:44:46   #
PeterS
 
ACP45 wrote:
Jimpack,
Absentee v****g is not the problem. Don't conflate Absentee v****g with "b****t drop off boxes", and expanded mail in v****g with b****ts being mailed to every Tom, Dick, and Harry (live ones and dead ones)! If you have a valid need for Absentee v****g, by all means avail yourself of that option (under conditions like set forth in Alabama below), otherwide, IN PERSON ONLY with signature checks! AGREE?????

So if I v**ed a hundred times and used snail mail you wouldn't have a problem with that just so long as I didn't use a b****t drop-off box? And just how does one mail to every Tom, Dick, and Harry?

So what this is all about is satisfying the paranoia of an individual who listens to media that makes them more and more paranoid every day. No, no problems in that at all...

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Aug 5, 2022 16:56:16   #
ocred
 
In October 31, 2020, Steve Bannon stated on his podcast that president tRump was going to just declare the e******n a fraud and declare that he won. That’s exactly what ended up happening. And exactly what an authoritarian president does. There is no mass e******n f***d. We find mostly fraudulent republicans. He never won the popular v**e. We don’t want him.

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Aug 5, 2022 16:57:43   #
ocred
 
Have you ever mailed in your b****t? You are informed of your b****t every step of the way. You know if there ids any funny business going on.

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Aug 5, 2022 16:59:15   #
ocred
 
👍👍👍

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Aug 5, 2022 17:23:59   #
PeterS
 
microphor wrote:
If I were you I'd take a good look in the mirror, cause just because you believe it and you think that the politicians you v**e for, are the people telling the t***h, then you may have a problem yourself.

Trump claimed v***r f***d before a v**e was even cast and conservatives believed him because...??? And he had shots before over 60 judges, both liberal and conservative, and the cases were thrown out for lack of evidence.

This from a Pennsylvania court judge:

U.S. District Court Judge Matthew Brann wrote in his order that Trump had asked the court to disenfranchise almost 7 million v**ers.

“One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption,” Brann wrote, so much that the court would have no option but to stop the certification even though it would impact so many people. “That has not happened.”

He said the Trump campaign presented “strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations ... unsupported by evidence.


We live in a country based on the Rule of Law. If our courts say that there is no case then there no case. If your claim is that I believe in a lie then you need to show me how it is a lie. You haven't even tried to do that. I've got over 60 judges in 60 courts who say that you were lied to. What do you have?

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Aug 5, 2022 17:58:09   #
rebelwidacoz Loc: Illinois
 
ACP45 wrote:
Cliff Notes Version of this article:

Article 4, §4 of the Constitution -- the Guarantee Clause -- asserts:

“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government… [that is, one ruled with the consent of the people].” Obviously, a government that rules by means of v**e f***d does not rule with the consent of the people.

A variety of vulnerabilities, including absentee v****g, were addressed in 2004 in John Fund’s book, Stealing E******ns. How V***r F***d Threatens our Democracy. With respect to absentee v****g, a 2005 commission on federal e******n reform -- co-chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III identified absentee b****ts as “the largest source of potential v***r f***d.” And in 2012, again on postal v****g, Adam Liptak of the New York Times wrote:

“V****g by mail is now common enough and problematic enough that e******n experts say there have been multiple e******ns in which no one can say with confidence which candidate was the deserved winner.”

The stated rationale is that such v****g is more convenient, and so increases turnout, and the more turnout, the better. While that may be true, if mail-in such v****g also increases v***r f***d, then convenience is irrelevant!

The Constitution guarantees e******n integrity, not convenience or turnout.

If we are to ensure honest e******ns, the time to act is now!

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2022/08/what_we_must_do_to_restore_confidence_in_our_e******ns_.html
Cliff Notes Version of this article: br br Articl... (show quote)


A Republican form of government is synomous with autocracy.This is why there is/ was the U.S.S.R,The Peoples Republica of China and a whole lot of Banana Republicas; just goes to show you that people like you do not have a clear cut understanding of what the word and what the Idea of what Democracy is , nor do you have an idea of what a Republic is,nor C*******m, nor F*****m, nor Autocracy, nor Monarchism,nor totalitarianism, nor Socialism ,nor Ogliarchism,nor Mercantilism, nor ..........
- don't fret about it,because politicians don't have a clear cut view of what they represent either- as for mail in v**es,or for people that for some reason are not in the country( such as the Military) and some people that are so infirmed,they don't have the physical strength to make it to the polling places,they have a right to be heard from also.It is the governments responsibility to do for the people what they cannot do for themselves (surely this is one of them)and if the only way to provide them accessibility to the right to v**e is to have the process of mail in v****g - "so let it be written," (Constitution) so let it be done"- Amen! , Halleujah! and as for what we should do to maintaining v****g integrity at the b****t boxes , prosecute those that choose to lie of its integrity to its fullest extent.

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Aug 5, 2022 18:53:30   #
microphor Loc: Home is TN
 
ocred wrote:
In October 31, 2020, Steve Bannon stated on his podcast that president tRump was going to just declare the e******n a fraud and declare that he won. That’s exactly what ended up happening. And exactly what an authoritarian president does. There is no mass e******n f***d. We find mostly fraudulent republicans. He never won the popular v**e. We don’t want him.


ahahahahaha, please prove to me "we find mostly fraudulent republicans". You mean kind of like the Dems lied on a dossier so they could create a "fraudulent claim against a president. That kind of fraud?

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Aug 5, 2022 19:21:49   #
Ricktloml
 
microphor wrote:
ahahahahaha, please prove to me "we find mostly fraudulent republicans". You mean kind of like the Dems lied on a dossier so they could create a "fraudulent claim against a president. That kind of fraud?




And remember the purpose of the Hillary/Obama false/manufactured accusation. It was to frame a sitting president/OVERTURN the results of the e******n/unseat a duly elected president. Why, because they didn't like losing. And these l*****ts can't even bring themselves to admit how utterly despicable/treasonous this assault on the peaceful t******r of p***r was/is, their years long persecution of one man is beyond unhinged.

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