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Jul 31, 2022 22:33:11   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
https://thegoptimes.com/atf-seizes-600-guns-from-amish-farmer-3/?utm_source=TGT%20BS3%20PI

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms has seized 600 guns from an Amish dairy farmer in Lancaster County Pennsylvania, but it’s unclear if the man even broke any laws. Reuben King denies any wrongdoing and no charges have been filed yet, though the ATF says it is still investigating the matter. Attorneys who focus on firearms law say that the ATF might actually have a very difficult time with the case if they decide to prosecute Mr. King. Sounds like they didn't even have a warrant to gain access to his house.

Amish man claims he did nothing illegal

Like most of the Amish community, Reuben King dev**es most of his time to his farm. He told local media that he owns about 50 dairy cows.

On the side, King admits that he was selling some of the guns, though he maintains that most of them were part of his extensive personal collection.

He predominantly sold long guns to his fellow Amish, though he says he sold a few to local non-Amish as well. He adamantly denied selling any handguns and is likely telling the t***h given that the ATF hasn’t accused him of doing so.

The Amish are strict pacifists and are dev**ed to simple living, so buying and selling handguns even for self defense would be taboo in the generally tight-knit community.

Hunting has historically been an important of their lifestyle. Even now that it isn’t necessary for survival, many Amish enjoy hunting for recreation.

King is among them and he says that he accumulated his large collection over the years primarily through his interest in hunting.

ATF might struggle to prosecute

It was a massive collection which required a reported 15 ATF agents to remove over a five hour period, but the bureau seems to be struggling to find something to charge the farmer with.

An individual who is “engaged in the business of dealing in firearms” is required to possess a Federal Firearms License, which Reuben King does not have.

The problem for the ATF is that the bureau would have to somehow prove that the dairy farmer was, in fact, in the business of selling firearms.

Sales between individuals are legal and King mostly limited his selling to others in the Amish community. He did not advertise his sales and he is not aware of how the ATF even learned about his collection.

While individuals within the community vary in their strictness on certain matters, many Amish have a religious objection to posing for photographs, meaning that acquiring a photo ID to buy directly from a gun store is impossible.

This explains Reuben King’s private sales and the size of his collection, but the ATF can only legally prosecute him if they can somehow prove that he sold enough to fit the definition of a business. King says that the ATF hasn’t even been able to tell him what that threshold would be.

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Jul 31, 2022 22:36:59   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
https://thegoptimes.com/atf-seizes-600-guns-from-amish-farmer-3/?utm_source=TGT%20BS3%20PI

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms has seized 600 guns from an Amish dairy farmer in Lancaster County Pennsylvania, but it’s unclear if the man even broke any laws. Reuben King denies any wrongdoing and no charges have been filed yet, though the ATF says it is still investigating the matter. Attorneys who focus on firearms law say that the ATF might actually have a very difficult time with the case if they decide to prosecute Mr. King. Sounds like they didn't even have a warrant to gain access to his house.

Amish man claims he did nothing illegal

Like most of the Amish community, Reuben King dev**es most of his time to his farm. He told local media that he owns about 50 dairy cows.

On the side, King admits that he was selling some of the guns, though he maintains that most of them were part of his extensive personal collection.

He predominantly sold long guns to his fellow Amish, though he says he sold a few to local non-Amish as well. He adamantly denied selling any handguns and is likely telling the t***h given that the ATF hasn’t accused him of doing so.

The Amish are strict pacifists and are dev**ed to simple living, so buying and selling handguns even for self defense would be taboo in the generally tight-knit community.

Hunting has historically been an important of their lifestyle. Even now that it isn’t necessary for survival, many Amish enjoy hunting for recreation.

King is among them and he says that he accumulated his large collection over the years primarily through his interest in hunting.

ATF might struggle to prosecute

It was a massive collection which required a reported 15 ATF agents to remove over a five hour period, but the bureau seems to be struggling to find something to charge the farmer with.

An individual who is “engaged in the business of dealing in firearms” is required to possess a Federal Firearms License, which Reuben King does not have.

The problem for the ATF is that the bureau would have to somehow prove that the dairy farmer was, in fact, in the business of selling firearms.

Sales between individuals are legal and King mostly limited his selling to others in the Amish community. He did not advertise his sales and he is not aware of how the ATF even learned about his collection.

While individuals within the community vary in their strictness on certain matters, many Amish have a religious objection to posing for photographs, meaning that acquiring a photo ID to buy directly from a gun store is impossible.

This explains Reuben King’s private sales and the size of his collection, but the ATF can only legally prosecute him if they can somehow prove that he sold enough to fit the definition of a business. King says that the ATF hasn’t even been able to tell him what that threshold would be.
https://thegoptimes.com/atf-seizes-600-guns-from-a... (show quote)


Oh crap!
Now we have Amish Boogiemen to worry about ? Getting to be a scarey boogieman world out there.

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Jul 31, 2022 22:45:37   #
BIRDMAN
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
https://thegoptimes.com/atf-seizes-600-guns-from-amish-farmer-3/?utm_source=TGT%20BS3%20PI

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms has seized 600 guns from an Amish dairy farmer in Lancaster County Pennsylvania, but it’s unclear if the man even broke any laws. Reuben King denies any wrongdoing and no charges have been filed yet, though the ATF says it is still investigating the matter. Attorneys who focus on firearms law say that the ATF might actually have a very difficult time with the case if they decide to prosecute Mr. King. Sounds like they didn't even have a warrant to gain access to his house.

Amish man claims he did nothing illegal

Like most of the Amish community, Reuben King dev**es most of his time to his farm. He told local media that he owns about 50 dairy cows.

On the side, King admits that he was selling some of the guns, though he maintains that most of them were part of his extensive personal collection.

He predominantly sold long guns to his fellow Amish, though he says he sold a few to local non-Amish as well. He adamantly denied selling any handguns and is likely telling the t***h given that the ATF hasn’t accused him of doing so.

The Amish are strict pacifists and are dev**ed to simple living, so buying and selling handguns even for self defense would be taboo in the generally tight-knit community.

Hunting has historically been an important of their lifestyle. Even now that it isn’t necessary for survival, many Amish enjoy hunting for recreation.

King is among them and he says that he accumulated his large collection over the years primarily through his interest in hunting.

ATF might struggle to prosecute

It was a massive collection which required a reported 15 ATF agents to remove over a five hour period, but the bureau seems to be struggling to find something to charge the farmer with.

An individual who is “engaged in the business of dealing in firearms” is required to possess a Federal Firearms License, which Reuben King does not have.

The problem for the ATF is that the bureau would have to somehow prove that the dairy farmer was, in fact, in the business of selling firearms.

Sales between individuals are legal and King mostly limited his selling to others in the Amish community. He did not advertise his sales and he is not aware of how the ATF even learned about his collection.

While individuals within the community vary in their strictness on certain matters, many Amish have a religious objection to posing for photographs, meaning that acquiring a photo ID to buy directly from a gun store is impossible.

This explains Reuben King’s private sales and the size of his collection, but the ATF can only legally prosecute him if they can somehow prove that he sold enough to fit the definition of a business. King says that the ATF hasn’t even been able to tell him what that threshold would be.
https://thegoptimes.com/atf-seizes-600-guns-from-a... (show quote)


Our cities are imploding with illegal guns and they’re going after legal Amish gun owner He must be white

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Jul 31, 2022 23:34:42   #
Peaver Bogart Loc: Montana
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
https://thegoptimes.com/atf-seizes-600-guns-from-amish-farmer-3/?utm_source=TGT%20BS3%20PI

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms has seized 600 guns from an Amish dairy farmer in Lancaster County Pennsylvania, but it’s unclear if the man even broke any laws. Reuben King denies any wrongdoing and no charges have been filed yet, though the ATF says it is still investigating the matter. Attorneys who focus on firearms law say that the ATF might actually have a very difficult time with the case if they decide to prosecute Mr. King. Sounds like they didn't even have a warrant to gain access to his house.

Amish man claims he did nothing illegal

Like most of the Amish community, Reuben King dev**es most of his time to his farm. He told local media that he owns about 50 dairy cows.

On the side, King admits that he was selling some of the guns, though he maintains that most of them were part of his extensive personal collection.

He predominantly sold long guns to his fellow Amish, though he says he sold a few to local non-Amish as well. He adamantly denied selling any handguns and is likely telling the t***h given that the ATF hasn’t accused him of doing so.

The Amish are strict pacifists and are dev**ed to simple living, so buying and selling handguns even for self defense would be taboo in the generally tight-knit community.

Hunting has historically been an important of their lifestyle. Even now that it isn’t necessary for survival, many Amish enjoy hunting for recreation.

King is among them and he says that he accumulated his large collection over the years primarily through his interest in hunting.

ATF might struggle to prosecute

It was a massive collection which required a reported 15 ATF agents to remove over a five hour period, but the bureau seems to be struggling to find something to charge the farmer with.

An individual who is “engaged in the business of dealing in firearms” is required to possess a Federal Firearms License, which Reuben King does not have.

The problem for the ATF is that the bureau would have to somehow prove that the dairy farmer was, in fact, in the business of selling firearms.

Sales between individuals are legal and King mostly limited his selling to others in the Amish community. He did not advertise his sales and he is not aware of how the ATF even learned about his collection.

While individuals within the community vary in their strictness on certain matters, many Amish have a religious objection to posing for photographs, meaning that acquiring a photo ID to buy directly from a gun store is impossible.

This explains Reuben King’s private sales and the size of his collection, but the ATF can only legally prosecute him if they can somehow prove that he sold enough to fit the definition of a business. King says that the ATF hasn’t even been able to tell him what that threshold would be.
https://thegoptimes.com/atf-seizes-600-guns-from-a... (show quote)


I hope he sues the 💩 out of the ATF.

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Aug 1, 2022 01:22:03   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Birdmam wrote:
Our cities are imploding with illegal guns and they’re going after legal Amish gun owner He must be white


Isn't that a form of harassment? Where was their warrant? How'd they know he had those guns? Quite a lot about this story that isn't being told.

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Aug 1, 2022 05:18:24   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
Isn't that a form of harassment? Where was their warrant? How'd they know he had those guns? Quite a lot about this story that isn't being told.


Personally, I think the ATF recruits from the C*****l P****e Gestapo, since they use such similar tactics. The ATF routinely commits worse crimes than they prosecute. Most of their activity appears to be geared toward harrassing law abiding citizens who make mistakes due to ignorance of gun laws rather than criminal intent.

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Aug 1, 2022 06:54:37   #
Rose42
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Oh crap!
Now we have Amish Boogiemen to worry about ? Getting to be a scarey boogieman world out there.


Silly troll.

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Aug 1, 2022 07:30:57   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Oh crap!
Now we have Amish Boogiemen to worry about ? Getting to be a scarey boogieman world out there.

Did you read the post backwards?
How do you even arrive at that conclusion?
Nothing in the post insinuates the Amish man is scary.
You are one twisted individual.

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Aug 1, 2022 08:24:55   #
BIRDMAN
 
JR-57 wrote:
Did you read the post backwards?
How do you even arrive at that conclusion?
Nothing in the post insinuates the Amish man is scary.
You are one twisted individual.


I think he’s being sarcastic

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Aug 1, 2022 09:16:22   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Birdmam wrote:
I think he’s being sarcastic

Nope. Not Milosia.

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Aug 1, 2022 13:39:54   #
MidnightRider
 
Ginny_Dandy wrote:
https://thegoptimes.com/atf-seizes-600-guns-from-amish-farmer-3/?utm_source=TGT%20BS3%20PI

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms has seized 600 guns from an Amish dairy farmer in Lancaster County Pennsylvania, but it’s unclear if the man even broke any laws. Reuben King denies any wrongdoing and no charges have been filed yet, though the ATF says it is still investigating the matter. Attorneys who focus on firearms law say that the ATF might actually have a very difficult time with the case if they decide to prosecute Mr. King. Sounds like they didn't even have a warrant to gain access to his house.

Amish man claims he did nothing illegal

Like most of the Amish community, Reuben King dev**es most of his time to his farm. He told local media that he owns about 50 dairy cows.

On the side, King admits that he was selling some of the guns, though he maintains that most of them were part of his extensive personal collection.

He predominantly sold long guns to his fellow Amish, though he says he sold a few to local non-Amish as well. He adamantly denied selling any handguns and is likely telling the t***h given that the ATF hasn’t accused him of doing so.

The Amish are strict pacifists and are dev**ed to simple living, so buying and selling handguns even for self defense would be taboo in the generally tight-knit community.

Hunting has historically been an important of their lifestyle. Even now that it isn’t necessary for survival, many Amish enjoy hunting for recreation.

King is among them and he says that he accumulated his large collection over the years primarily through his interest in hunting.

ATF might struggle to prosecute

It was a massive collection which required a reported 15 ATF agents to remove over a five hour period, but the bureau seems to be struggling to find something to charge the farmer with.

An individual who is “engaged in the business of dealing in firearms” is required to possess a Federal Firearms License, which Reuben King does not have.

The problem for the ATF is that the bureau would have to somehow prove that the dairy farmer was, in fact, in the business of selling firearms.

Sales between individuals are legal and King mostly limited his selling to others in the Amish community. He did not advertise his sales and he is not aware of how the ATF even learned about his collection.

While individuals within the community vary in their strictness on certain matters, many Amish have a religious objection to posing for photographs, meaning that acquiring a photo ID to buy directly from a gun store is impossible.

This explains Reuben King’s private sales and the size of his collection, but the ATF can only legally prosecute him if they can somehow prove that he sold enough to fit the definition of a business. King says that the ATF hasn’t even been able to tell him what that threshold would be.
https://thegoptimes.com/atf-seizes-600-guns-from-a... (show quote)


All the Amish I know have farms. Guns yeah, but so what? Prove he sold even one, that should be very entertaining because the Amish are very tight-lipped. Oh. they'll probably make something up, that I'm sure of to give their agency credibility. A few years ago it was almost disbanded for lack of need.

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Aug 1, 2022 17:20:42   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Personally, I think the ATF recruits from the C*****l P****e Gestapo, since they use such similar tactics. The ATF routinely commits worse crimes than they prosecute. Most of their activity appears to be geared toward harrassing law abiding citizens who make mistakes due to ignorance of gun laws rather than criminal intent.


It's probably because a lot of people believe they only need the 2nd Amendment. But you're right about the ATF's routinely committing crimes against law-abiding citizens. Aren't they part of the FBI?

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Aug 1, 2022 17:32:08   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
MidnightRider wrote:
All the Amish I know have farms. Guns yeah, but so what? Prove he sold even one, that should be very entertaining because the Amish are very tight-lipped. Oh. they'll probably make something up, that I'm sure of to give their agency credibility. A few years ago it was almost disbanded for lack of need.


These days, I feel the Amish need to be able to protect themselves - even if it is against their religion. It's instinct that makes us want to preserve ours or our loved ones lives.

All the gov't agencies are currently being run by tyrants! They and their cohorts need to disappear.

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Aug 6, 2022 21:06:25   #
Bach
 
Why don’t they investigate the IRS?

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Aug 6, 2022 21:16:16   #
Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest
 
Bach wrote:
Why don’t they investigate the IRS?


The IRS is connected to the Federal Reserve and they're both foreign entities. And neither one is registered as such.

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