Do Not Be Suckered (Page 2): - Does Medicare need a spending bill like this to negotiate drug prices? It's befuddling that they can't simply initiate pricing negotiations without a...

donho50

pegw wrote:

This bill will do three things to fight inflation. It will allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices. This will lower costs.
It will force companies to pay the taxes that they should, reducing the national debt.
It will lower health care costs.
It will beef up the IRS, decimated by Trump , also reducing the national debt.
All good stuff, and also doing something about g****l w*****g, so give our children a fighting chance.

- Does Medicare need a spending bill like this to negotiate drug prices? It's befuddling that they can't simply initiate pricing negotiations without a spending bill.
- The notion that companies will fund new taxes out of their profits and shareholder dividends simply does not happen; they instead reduce costs, mostly through layoffs and cut backs in production, and/or pass the tax expense along to the consumer. These are highly inflationary byproducts of "forcing companies to pay the taxes they should".
- Please elaborate on how this bill will lower health care costs. Since the promised savings of the ACA never materialized, I am skeptical on how this spending bill contains the secret sauce the ACA missed that will lower health care costs.
- Beefing up the IRS - a partisan agency frequently weaponized by the party in power to muzzle opposition -- will not reduce inflation. It would instead redistribute wealth from the populace to the government, thereby slowing consumer spending which in turn results in cutbacks in investment and production, which will stagnate economic recovery.
- "Doing something about g****l w*****g....for the children". I'd be looking for something more specific given the inordinately high percentage of the spending bill earmarked for g***n e****y subsidies. For instance, providing tax breaks for wealthier Americans to buy electric cars seems like tax breaks for the rich, and a government sponsored windfall for the makers of electric cars, something that used to be called corporate welfare.

You should do more research before re-posting the one page talking points from the DNC.
To your credit, it took you until the fifth line to find something to bash Trump on. High five.

The Ms.

pegw wrote:

This bill will do three things to fight inflation. It will allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices. This will lower costs.
It will force companies to pay the taxes that they should, reducing the national debt.
It will lower health care costs.
It will beef up the IRS, decimated by Trump , also reducing the national debt.
All good stuff, and also doing something about g****l w*****g, so give our children a fighting chance.

It will do the exact opposite!

Godsncotrl

G****l w*****g is a h**x.

martsiva

Sonny Magoo wrote:

I wish you were right
But you're not.
The destruction of the middle class and working population reduction is the goal.
The current administration is very deliberate and follows Biden’s manifesto of many many years.
Biden is a NWO c*******t.
No prices are going down...ever!
They plan to inflate until worthless...and then..the new world economy. A freaken Utopia. Bet you just can't wait.

You are right - Biden is a NWO c*******t and the Democrats breaking our i*********n l*ws to let in 1000s of i******s is a plan to create a NAU ( North American Union to erase our borders) to destroy the sovereignty of this nation!!!

martsiva

Wonttakeitanymore

Smedley_buzk**l wrote:

Do you even think before you post? Never mind, answering that would belabor the obvious. The US already has the highest corporate taxes in the world and you want them to pay their "fair share." They will simply pack up and leave and take their jobs with them. No matter how much they pay the politicians (mostly Democrat) will find some way to spend all of it and more. Inflation is caused by printing too much money. Right now, as I type this, 80 percent of every single US dollar in circulation has been printed since Joe Biden took office. PLEASE ask me to prove it. The IRS specializes in going after Americans who cannot afford lawyers to defend them. Joe Average is their usual victim. They almost never go after the big boys because they have already put their money in tax shelters that were mostly provided by a Democrat House and Senate in the fifties and sixties. The IRS is probably, after the ATF the most lawless of all the alphabet agencies in the government. Nothing you said will reduce the National Debt. As for lowering health care costs, that is bulls**t. If you want to lower healthcare costs, get rid of the millions of wetbacks in this country, including the 2 million that have been allowed in since your boy Biden took office. These people have their snouts in the taxpayers' trough even more than the Democrats and spineless RINOs who allowed them in. Pare back the FDA which causes drug companies to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to get medications approved for sale in the US when they have been available in every other G8 and G20 country in the world for years with no catastrophic effects. I have pulmonary fibrosis. The medication I take for it costs more than $11,000 per month. It was available in Europe ten years before it could be sold here for a fraction of the price. There is a new medication available for this disease already being prescribed in Europe, and the FDA insists on at least two more years of testing before it can be sold here. Never mind that it, too, has been available in Europe for years with no reported side effects other than minor ones.

G****l W*****g? Earth has had that long before mankind existed. As a matter of fact, there was far more CO2 in the atmosphere during the last Ice Age than there is now. 2000 years ago it was warmer than today, as is evidenced by remains of orchards where today it is too cold for the fruit to grow. Man made greenhouse gases comprise a small fraction of the total released into our atmosphere. There has been no warming at all for at least ten years. Thirty years ago brainless Chicken Little Libtards were bleating about the coming Ice Age.

Do you even think before you post? Never mind, ans... (show quote)

Tell it like it is! But alas and slack zombies dont hear! They shuffle and search for brains

Wonttakeitanymore

Wonttakeitanymore wrote:

Tell it like it is! But alas and slack zombies dont hear! They shuffle and search for brains

Alas and alack

FallenOak Loc: St George Utah

pegw wrote:

This bill will do three things to fight inflation. It will allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices. This will lower costs.
It will force companies to pay the taxes that they should, reducing the national debt.
It will lower health care costs.
It will beef up the IRS, decimated by Trump , also reducing the national debt.
All good stuff, and also doing something about g****l w*****g, so give our children a fighting chance.

If you believe that I will also tell you with absolute t***h that Hoover Dam and Glen Canyon Dam are 100% full of water and the drought in the Southwestern US is a Republican plot to to make poor Mr. Joe Biden look bad.

BIRDMAN

FallenOak wrote:

If you believe that I will also tell you with absolute t***h that Hoover Dam and Glen Canyon Dam are 100% full of water and the drought in the Southwestern US is a Republican plot to to make poor Mr. Joe Biden look bad.

Biden does not need any help looking like a moron

WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX

Sonny Magoo wrote:

I wish you were right
But you're not.
The destruction of the middle class and working population reduction is the goal.
The current administration is very deliberate and follows Biden’s manifesto of many many years.
Biden is a NWO c*******t.
No prices are going down...ever!
They plan to inflate until worthless...and then..the new world economy. A freaken Utopia. Bet you just can't wait.

I think your prediction is correct. It’s really the only way to explain what they are doing. They can’t stand those of us that played the game well, made mostly good decisions and prospered. Most of all, we don’t need the stinkin government. They can’t confiscate our money but they sure can inflate it to the point that it’s worthless. Well all be equally miserable. Gimmie back, gimmie back my………..

JR-57 Loc: South Carolina

WinkyTink wrote:

I think your prediction is correct. It’s really the only way to explain what they are doing. They can’t stand those of us that played the game well, made mostly good decisions and prospered. Most of all, we don’t need the stinkin government. They can’t confiscate our money but they sure can inflate it to the point that it’s worthless. Well all be equally miserable. Gimmie back, gimmie back my………..

Lynyrd Skynyrd?

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

WinkyTink wrote:

I think your prediction is correct. It’s really the only way to explain what they are doing. They can’t stand those of us that played the game well, made mostly good decisions and prospered. Most of all, we don’t need the stinkin government. They can’t confiscate our money but they sure can inflate it to the point that it’s worthless. Well all be equally miserable. Gimmie back, gimmie back my………..

I make my own…………

WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX

Marty 2020 wrote:

I make my own…………

I also make mine ……appear via surfing the inter web daily, find the deal, apply credit card, receive at doorstep, store properly, use teeny bits weekly at the range.
It is great to be able to make your own!

Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia

WinkyTink wrote:

I also make mine ……appear via surfing the inter web daily, find the deal, apply credit card, receive at doorstep, store properly, use teeny bits weekly at the range.
It is great to be able to make your own!

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