Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

by Anonymous

In the year 125 BC, King John Hyrcanus made war against the neighboring Canaanite/Edomite nation of Idumea. In this war, the Judahites were completely victorious, thus subduing the last Canaanite stronghold of military resistance. But John Hyrcanus made a ghastly mistake in his dealings with the losers of the war. He offered them citizenship along side the existing Judahite citizens of Judah. Then, he gave the Idumeans an ultimatum: be circumcised or die! Your foreskin or your lie!

This ultimatum was given in the year 121 BC. The Idumean males lined for circumcision. That guy was the world's first Jew. (Now you know why Dr. Wesley Swift and Bertrand Comparet always referred to these people as EDOMITE JEWS, in order to distinguish them from True Judahites! Neither of these identity scholars would accept the false proposition that these Idumeans were Judahites. It's the same as knowing the difference between Cowboys and Indians!) By forcibly merging the two countries, John Hyrcanus not only violated the exclusivity of Israel an the direct command of Yahweh to make no marriages or covenants with Canaanites (Deut. 7), he created the possibility for the Idumeans to pretend to be Judahites.

In effect, John Hyrcanus committed the same sin that caused the nation of Judah to be exiled in the first place.

The best definition of a Jew is one who pretends to be a Judahite (Rev. 2:9 and 3:9.)

The first Idumean male to be circumcised could now pretend to be a Judahite, because he was given full citizenship to all non-Israelites. In addition, these Idumeans were the descendants of those very Canaanitess that Joshua was ordered to exterminate! John Hyrcanus had thus mixed the Holy Seed with the unholiest seed of all!

By submitting to circumcision, the Edomite Jew came into being. This circumstance gave these Jews the opportunity to publicly pretend to obey the Law of Moses, while secretly substituting their own traditions. Thus, Judaism was born. The Idumeans NEVER converted to the Law of Moses. Their very inclusion into the nation of Judah was itself a violation of the Law of Moses, so how can this be described as a "conversion to Judaism." There was NO SUCH THING as Judaism at this time. There was only the Law of Moses. The Jewish version of these events would suggest that these Idumeans accept the Law of Moses. No, they never did! On the contrary, this is where and when the Eomites began to impersonate Judah and to pretend to follow Hebrewism. This is why Jesus tells us that THEIR TRADITION (Judaism) "makes the law (of God) of NONE EFFECT." (Matt. 15:3-6)

From this history, it is clearly evident that Judaism is the Johnny-come-lately religion. It has absolutely no rightful claim to a Biblical origin. So, before this date, 121 BC, there was no such thing as a Jew, and there was no such religion as Judaism. Both came into being as a result of this illegal merger of two enemy nations.

John Hyrcanus, one of the last true Judahites to occupy the throne of Judah, but also a gullible person, fell into the Idumean trap when, after having defeated them militarily, merge these two disparate nations into one conglomerate, a "union" which actually set the state for the downfall of the Maccabean/Hasmonean dynasty. He entered into a bargain with the Idumeans. By accepting them as citizens of Judah, the two nations of Idumea and Judah would be merged. Hyrcanus did not realize that he would be creating an instant Fifth Column of saboteurs, provocateurs and t*****rs when he annexed Idumea to Judah. This mixed nation became known as "Judea." Of course, this violated the Mosaic Law which prohibits race-mixing and it also violated the principle, "Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers." (II Cor. 6-14) This merger of two disparate nations occurred in 125 BC and the circumcision of Idumean males began in 121 BC.

As a result of the merging of Judah and Idumea, the sect known as the Pharisee became very powerful. They became the official State priesthood because they were supported by Herod, a non-Judahite Idumean who, having been installed by Rome, was gradually an effectively replacing Judahite rulers and priests with his Idumean cronies. Just as Herod had usurped the throne of Judah, the Pharisees had usurped the priesthood of Judah. This is the historical reality that the rabbis of Judaism do not want you to know.

"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees. Hypocrites! For ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of her than yourselves." - Matt. 23:15

Iliamna Loc: Born in Ca, but raised in Montana. Went to Un

Your entire post is a lie .

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

It's pretty obvious that you haven't read it or the Bible.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

Our Creator who created every human being on earth is the Creator of the Jew.
You may have "read" the Bible, but you failed to study it.

Iliamna Loc: Born in Ca, but raised in Montana. Went to Un

I have read it several times over and am involved in a One Year Through the Bible study. Yes, I do study the Bible and you may have read a few verses here and there, but you surely haven't studied it or understood it. Your post sounds like something from the Aryan nation or a n**i Jew-hating anti-semite.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

It is known as CIM, Iliamna, (an acronym for "Christian Identity Movement), now commonly called "Christian Identity."

The W***e S*********t, anti-Semitic ideology known in the United States as the "Christian Identity Movement" (CIM), (alternately known as Identity Christianity) is an illegitimate, heretical interpretation of Christianity professing that only the white skinned race, i.e., the Celtic and Germanic peoples, the Anglo-Saxon, Nordic nations, or Aryan people and people of kindred blood are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and are, therefore, [preposterously] claiming to be the sole legitimate descendants of the ancient Israelites of the Bible.

The origins of the Christian Identity Movement emerged in the United States during the 1920s and 1930s as a bastard offshoot of British Israelism, but with a twist. It is not an organized religion, nor is it affiliated with specific Christian denominations. Its theology is a formerly unknown racial interpretation of Christianity taught by unschooled authors who regarded Europeans as the "chosen people" as did British Israelism, but unlike British Israelism, who professed philo-semitism (love for the Jewish people), and rather than omitting them from being heirs of God's promise, they considered themselves co-heirs with them.

Christian Identity spun this regard for the Jews on its head by denouncing Jews and non-w****s as the cursed offspring of Cain, who they taught was a "serpent hybrid." This perversion of sacred scripture was introduced into Christian Identity theology as the "serpent seed" or the "two-seedline" doctrine which is now independently practiced by approximately 50,000 individuals, independent congregations, and among prison inmates across the United States.

Christian Identity promotes their belief that all non-w****s (people who are not of wholly European descent) will either be exterminated, or they are to be ens***ed in service to the white race, when God's new Heavenly Kingdom materializes upon the Earth under the reign of Jesus Christ. Their doctrine states that only "Adamic" (white) people are eligible to receive salvation and enter paradise.

Christian Identity influential personalities, starting in the 1920s-1930s through today, in its founding and development in the US have been: Howard Rand, William Cameron, Wesley Swift, Bertrand Comparet, Richard Butler, William Potter Gale, James K. Warner, Sheldon Emry, Dave Barley, Pete Peters.

Their Ideology is not Scripturally accurate in any sense. It is h**e filled, Anti-Semitic, r****t, anti-government, and conspiratorial.

Their outreach has been conducted through shortwave radio, churches, pamphlets, tracts, books, and now through the internet, via Web sites.

Their total estimated Membership is 25,000 to 50,000.

I was a webmaster for an online Christian Cult Awareness website in the mid nineties through early 2000s, and automatically seek information when I see abhorrent writings I can't readily identify.

Old habits are hard to break...

Info from:

"Race Over Grace: The Racialist Religion of the Christian Identity Movement," by Charles H, Roberts
and
"Religion and the R****t Right: The Origins of the Christian Identity Movement," by Michael Barkun

Addendum: The latest (2019) update edition of the classic "The Kingdom of the Cults," by Walter Martin, penned by his daughter and son-in-law, also has substantial info on "Christian Identity."

Iliamna Loc: Born in Ca, but raised in Montana. Went to Un

Thank you for the post. Our pastor at Austin Bible Church calls it 'replacement theology. I knew a young man at the apartment complex where I lived who was very much involved in this Aryan Nation garbage and hung a N**i f**g off his balcony (he was told to remove it as it was offensive to many residents there). He held to the beliefs you mentioned, but he was a fruit loop. He believed the Jews were so evil, God replaced them with the Christian church. He had all sorts of reading material and would hand out tracts to people. I do not hold to replacement theology. The Lord made unconditional promises to the Jewish people and He never goes back on His word.
Never! Anyone can be saved by believing oin the Lord, Jesus Christ, and there are prophesies that there will be people saved from every nation and every tongue. Salvation is for anyone who puts their trust in Christ and is not based on works, rituals, skin color or language. As you know, salvation for all was bought at a tremendous price, the substitutionary work Christ did on the cross. I know many missionaries who minister in many parts of the world and Afghanis, Pakistanis, and Africans across that continent are coming to the Lord in droves! Many of the Muslim who accept Christ are women and children, who are tired of suffering under the yoke of their religion and have become free in Christ. There are many underground churches across the Muslim world, but it's a tidal wave of grace they cannot stop. Those missionaries often teach under the threat of beatings and even death.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Thank you! Accurate and completely t***hful, and explained with love as it should be, from someone who knows and has faith in our King Jesus Christ. I hope your words touch a few hearts, and opens them to God's Holy Spirit.

As for Ginny's post, I do not accept it. It smacks of the falsehood of using historical events and doctrine to determine 't***h' and 'assigning' people into categories based on heritage when the ONLY heritage that matters is the one from Jesus the Lamb of God, and God the Father. Salvation and a Christian life are individual choices of the mind and heart, and have nothing to do with skin color or racial or religious heritage.
Ginny, with all due respect, you might do better striving to be the best Christian possible, and concentrate on serving Him, and spend less effort explaining to others about how wrong they are. The world is full of conspiracies and conspiracy theories, and no doubt some are true. But God can handle the big stuff without our help. We are to walk the path He lights in front of us.

Rose42

Its good that people point out Ginny’s posts about Jews are not true.

May the Holy Spirit move her heart to reject those unt***hs.

Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...

I read ten years ago that African missionaries were now coming to America to preach the gospel in our sin-filled cities.

Iran has more secret converts to Christianity at present than any of the Islamic nations, but all are thirsty for the Bread of Life... found only in Jesus Christ.

We are in agreement on the folly of Replacement Theology.

If God could not be trusted to fulfill His promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, of the physical Eretz Israel (the land of Israel) as the eternal possession of their physical descendants, then how could He be trusted to fulfill His promise of Eternal life to be spent in His presence, to all who enter into His church?, - the ekklesia, the called-out-ones, including, of course, Jewish believers, all are accepted by faith in the universal Spiritual body of Christ.

The physical land of Israel and the Church of Jesus Christ are two separate entities, based on different promises of God, and one cannot replace the other. All will be fulfilled.

Nor is there any Biblical reason to believe as Christian Identity does, that all non-white races are to be eliminated (executed) by God's true followers in a genocidal war at the end-times. The New Jerusalem will house the believers from all nations, and the kings of the earth will bring the glory and honor of their nations into it (Revelation 21:22-27).

The Lord has always protected the sojourner and the foreigner (Deuteronomy 27:19; Isaiah 56:1-8) and when He commanded Israel's sons and daughters not to marry foreigners, it was for their own spiritual well being, - to prevent them being tempted to worship their false idols.

God has always drawn, and will continue to draw converts, a people for his name from every nation, tribe and tongue (Ruth 1:16-17; Revelation 7:9). Distinguishing these converts from those who reject God is not based on their skin color, but by their faith and acceptance of His offer of forgiveness through the once-for-all-who-believe shed blood of Christ on Calvary's cross.

With God, the favor of eternal salvation is, and will always be, through personal faith, and never a matter of their skin color, an attribute over which man has no control. (Galatians 3:28-29).

Iliamna Loc: Born in Ca, but raised in Montana. Went to Un

Galatians 3:28 sums our discussion up: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither s***e nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

RandyBrian Loc: Texas

Amen!

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

Actually, I think my post proves that I have both read & studied the Bible. Yahweh knew the Jews before they were Jews, and He knew their heart was not for Him. That's why He told Joshua to destroy them.

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

It's not solely about heritage. It about following Yahweh's commandments and having faith in His promises. We have NOT done the former and now we are going to pay the price for disobedience!

"My people are destroyed, for lack of knowledge." -Hosea 4:6

Ginny_Dandy Loc: Pacific Northwest

You said: "With God, the favor of eternal salvation is, and will always be, through personal faith, and never a matter of their skin color, an attribute over which man has no control. (Galatians 3:28-29)."

You're right, it's about BELIEVING and having FAITH in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. But f**e Jews have none of these qualities. The f**e Jews are out to reduce the world's population. They believe the love of money will make them powerful. The f**e Jews wrote the Patriot Act so they could take away your rights of protection against them. The f**e Jews want to disarm law-abiding citizens. The f**e Jews created & executed false f**gs just to get what they want. Human lives (except their own) mean nothing to them. That's how we got to know about being "Arkancided" or eugenics as presented by Margaret Sanger that brought us Planned Parenthood (a misnomer!). God said, "Thou shalt not murder" and we ignored Him so women could have the "right" to murder their babies. God warned us about the unnatural use of our bodies, but we allowed the L**T to over-ride us, and we've gone so far as to allow them a "Gay P***e" parade.

We are NOT living in the Biblical past!!! The Bible gave us numerous prophecies to warn us about these days - but we're not making the connection!!!