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How will Putin respond to the imminent expansion of NATO?
Jul 3, 2022 10:42:20   #
Gatsby
 
Sweden and Finland thumbed their noses, directly in Putin's face.

Putin's dire warnings and veiled threats over NATO membership are legend, can he take this humiliation sitting down?

I reckon that Putin must respond, but how?

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Jul 3, 2022 10:51:55   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Gatsby wrote:
Sweden and Finland thumbed their noses, directly in Putin's face.

Putin's dire warnings and veiled threats over NATO membership are legend, can he take this humiliation sitting down?

I reckon that Putin must respond, but how?


By putting Nukes at their Borders...We're poking the bear way too much...I'm afraid the bear will fight back...Are we ready??😳🙄

https://nypost.com/2022/05/14/russia-threatens-nukes-for-us-uk-finland-if-nato-expands/

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Jul 3, 2022 10:57:00   #
kemmer
 
Gatsby wrote:
Sweden and Finland thumbed their noses, directly in Putin's face.

Putin's dire warnings and veiled threats over NATO membership are legend, can he take this humiliation sitting down?

I reckon that Putin must respond, but how?

Putin has almost more than he can handle in Ukraine. Even he must recognize now that invading Ukraine was a terrible blunder.

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Jul 3, 2022 11:37:22   #
Gatsby
 
proud republican wrote:
By putting Nukes at their Borders...We're poking the bear way too much...I'm afraid the bear will fight back...Are we ready??😳🙄

https://nypost.com/2022/05/14/russia-threatens-nukes-for-us-uk-finland-if-nato-expands/


I reckon that thar's more-un one bar in dem der woods.

France is still the worlds 3rd largest nuclear power.

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Jul 3, 2022 12:20:58   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
proud republican wrote:
By putting Nukes at their Borders...We're poking the bear way too much...I'm afraid the bear will fight back...Are we ready??😳🙄

https://nypost.com/2022/05/14/russia-threatens-nukes-for-us-uk-finland-if-nato-expands/


If you go out into the woods looking to poke a bear that is one thing. When the bear wanders into the camp and starts attacking the campers do you poke it or let the rampage continue? At what point is it appropriate to discourage the bear from continuing on to other campsites?

No, we are not even close to ready. No one can ever be ready for the unthinkable.

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Jul 3, 2022 12:34:10   #
Snoopy
 
proud republican wrote:
By putting Nukes at their Borders...We're poking the bear way too much...I'm afraid the bear will fight back...Are we ready??😳🙄

https://nypost.com/2022/05/14/russia-threatens-nukes-for-us-uk-finland-if-nato-expands/


If Putin uses nuclear weapons NATO should destroy the offending sites!

The Toothless Bear should be pushed into exile for the next hundred years!

Snoopy

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Jul 3, 2022 13:01:03   #
Gatsby
 
Strycker wrote:
If you go out into the woods looking to poke a bear that is one thing. When the bear wanders into the camp and starts attacking the campers do you poke it or let the rampage continue? At what point is it appropriate to discourage the bear from continuing on to other campsites?

No, we are not even close to ready. No one can ever be ready for the unthinkable.


I don't know about others, but if I ever have cause to poke a bear, I reckon that I'd poke it in the boiler room,

with a .458 Winchester!

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Jul 3, 2022 13:17:49   #
pegw
 
Snoopy wrote:
If Putin uses nuclear weapons NATO should destroy the offending sites!

The Toothless Bear should be pushed into exile for the next hundred years!

Snoopy
If Putin uses more than 5 nuclear weapons, we will all die in Nuclear Winter. I don't think Putin will attack NATO, or Finland before they become a full NATO member. But you never know about Putin. He has made a grave mistake invading Ukraine, and he won't accept that fact and keeps soldiering on.

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Jul 3, 2022 13:30:38   #
Gatsby
 
pegw wrote:
If Putin uses more than 5 nuclear weapons, we will all die in Nuclear Winter. I don't think Putin will attack NATO, or Finland before they become a full NATO member. But you never know about Putin. He has made a grave mistake invading Ukraine, and he won't accept that fact and keeps soldiering on.


Really?

From 1945 to 1980, over 500 nuclear weapons tests were conducted in the atmosphere,

without causing a single Nuclear Winter.

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Jul 3, 2022 15:15:10   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
Gatsby wrote:
Really?

From 1945 to 1980, over 500 nuclear weapons tests were conducted in the atmosphere,

without causing a single Nuclear Winter.


It takes a ground explosion and subsequent fires to raise the dust, smoke etc into the atmosphere to possibly create a nuclear winter.

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Jul 3, 2022 15:26:06   #
Gatsby
 
Strycker wrote:
It takes a ground explosion and subsequent fires to raise the dust, smoke etc into the atmosphere to possibly create a nuclear winter.


Strategic nukes all detonate far above "ground", as did the tests.

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Jul 4, 2022 10:36:04   #
pegw
 
Gatsby wrote:
Really?

From 1945 to 1980, over 500 nuclear weapons tests were conducted in the atmosphere,

without causing a single Nuclear Winter.

They were not fired over cities and did not have anything catching fire. The fires are the problem. They were also not fired at the same time. I suggest you look up nuclear winter on Wikipedia and actually read something on it.

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Jul 4, 2022 15:13:08   #
Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.
 
pegw wrote:
They were not fired over cities and did not have anything catching fire. The fires are the problem. They were also not fired at the same time. I suggest you look up nuclear winter on Wikipedia and actually read something on it.


Thank you. I was going to suggest the same thing rather than do his research for him. Thinking that a nuclear exchange would anything other than devastating is foolish.

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Jul 4, 2022 20:22:46   #
son of witless
 
Gatsby wrote:
Sweden and Finland thumbed their noses, directly in Putin's face.

Putin's dire warnings and veiled threats over NATO membership are legend, can he take this humiliation sitting down?

I reckon that Putin must respond, but how?


Thank God we have such a wise leader guiding us through this crisis. Joe Biden's 4 plus decades of statecraft experience is showing.

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