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Jun 25, 2022 12:37:41   #
saltwind 78 Loc: Murrells Inlet, South Carolina
 
slatten49 wrote:
I suspect it disappoints you, J, but quite a few of us welcome Saltwind78's contributions to the OPP forum...Just as I welcome yours.


Slatten, Thank you. I'm interested in what every poster has to say.

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Jun 25, 2022 13:16:10   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
The Republican Party has been successful in many of their goals. The big question is, what are the consequences? I can not read the future, even one second to come, but there are a few big questions that should be asked. The first is what will the response be to the SCOTUS undoing of legal a******n? The second is what will be the reaction of the American people be to the Jan. Sixth Committee uncovering massive criminal activity of Trump and the Republican Party in the c**p attempt, and s******n? The third problem the GOP is guilty of is minimizing Black v**es through gerrymandering ?
I hope and believe that the American people will rebel against all these Republican actions, and elect a Democratic Congress and POTUS. Clarence Thomas has openly called for a nation wide, federal law outlawing a******n, a ban on gay marriage, an end to contraception, a ban on some sex acts, and more.
The Republicans are refusing to admit to the crimes Trump committed while in office. Just look at the e******n planks of the Republicans in Texas.
I was worried about an overwhelming e******n Republican victory because of inflation. Now, not so much. The GOP has pissed off women, B****s, and those that realize what Trump is and what he has done. The Republicans just may have overplayed their hand. I think that the Republicans may have seized defeat from the jaws of victory.
The Republican Party has been successful in many o... (show quote)


Massive criminal activity of Trump? What crime??

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Jun 25, 2022 13:22:09   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Massive criminal activity of Trump? What crime??


He can't answer. Why I call him the piece of crap he is. Never gives facts, just his biased and unintelligent opinion.

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Jun 25, 2022 16:59:36   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
The Republican Party has been successful in many of their goals. The big question is, what are the consequences? I can not read the future, even one second to come, but there are a few big questions that should be asked. The first is what will the response be to the SCOTUS undoing of legal a******n? The second is what will be the reaction of the American people be to the Jan. Sixth Committee uncovering massive criminal activity of Trump and the Republican Party in the c**p attempt, and s******n? The third problem the GOP is guilty of is minimizing Black v**es through gerrymandering ?
I hope and believe that the American people will rebel against all these Republican actions, and elect a Democratic Congress and POTUS. Clarence Thomas has openly called for a nation wide, federal law outlawing a******n, a ban on gay marriage, an end to contraception, a ban on some sex acts, and more.
The Republicans are refusing to admit to the crimes Trump committed while in office. Just look at the e******n planks of the Republicans in Texas.
I was worried about an overwhelming e******n Republican victory because of inflation. Now, not so much. The GOP has pissed off women, B****s, and those that realize what Trump is and what he has done. The Republicans just may have overplayed their hand. I think that the Republicans may have seized defeat from the jaws of victory.
The Republican Party has been successful in many o... (show quote)


Did Clarence happen to mention the Loving Decision ?
I wonder. Maybe he’s trying to get rid of her.

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Jun 25, 2022 17:01:47   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Massive criminal activity of Trump? What crime??


So gullible , so innocent , so naive ,
That crap doesn’t work anymore.
Thinking by asking you’ll keep diminishing the importance of it all.
What Crime ????
That is just too funny , man !!!!!!!
In your strange little world if you don’t get an answer , that automatically means
No Crimes !!!
Or they would’ve said so!
Am I Right ???

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Jun 25, 2022 17:21:34   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
JFlorio wrote:
Newsflash: No one cares what you think.


Apparently you do.

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Jun 25, 2022 17:29:46   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Milosia2 wrote:
So gullible , so innocent , so naive ,
That crap doesn’t work anymore.
Thinking by asking you’ll keep diminishing the importance of it all.
What Crime ????
That is just too funny , man !!!!!!!
In your strange little world if you don’t get an answer , that automatically means
No Crimes !!!
Or they would’ve said so!
Am I Right ???


You have never named the crimes they claim Trump is guilty of as is related to J**6th.

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Jun 25, 2022 18:55:37   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You have never named the crimes they claim Trump is guilty of as is related to J**6th.


You really should start paying attention.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/17/january-6-committee-trump-crimes/

1. Obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress
2. Conspiracy to defraud the United States
3. S*******s conspiracy
4. Wire fraud

If you want to stop being ignorant you should read the following assessment by Brookings.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Trump-on-Trial.pdf

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Jun 25, 2022 19:27:09   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Two far left periodicals. Not saying they’re wrong but they’re biased.
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
You really should start paying attention.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/17/january-6-committee-trump-crimes/

1. Obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress
2. Conspiracy to defraud the United States
3. S*******s conspiracy
4. Wire fraud

If you want to stop being ignorant you should read the following assessment by Brookings.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Trump-on-Trial.pdf

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Jun 25, 2022 21:19:49   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
Two far left periodicals. Not saying they’re wrong but they’re biased.


Big time. And why has the J** 6th proceedings never openly stated these alleged crimes, if, in fact, they are real.

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Jun 25, 2022 21:23:33   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Wildlandfirefighter wrote:
You really should start paying attention.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/17/january-6-committee-trump-crimes/

1. Obstruction of an official proceeding of Congress
2. Conspiracy to defraud the United States
3. S*******s conspiracy
4. Wire fraud

If you want to stop being ignorant you should read the following assessment by Brookings.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Trump-on-Trial.pdf


And your evidence of these "crimes?" It appears all you have is hearsay, he said-she said. An opinion of e******n f***d is not a part of those allegations.

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Jun 25, 2022 21:37:02   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
saltwind 78 wrote:
The Republican Party has been successful in many of their goals. The big question is, what are the consequences? I can not read the future, even one second to come, but there are a few big questions that should be asked. The first is what will the response be to the SCOTUS undoing of legal a******n? The second is what will be the reaction of the American people be to the Jan. Sixth Committee uncovering massive criminal activity of Trump and the Republican Party in the c**p attempt, and s******n? The third problem the GOP is guilty of is minimizing Black v**es through gerrymandering ?
I hope and believe that the American people will rebel against all these Republican actions, and elect a Democratic Congress and POTUS. Clarence Thomas has openly called for a nation wide, federal law outlawing a******n, a ban on gay marriage, an end to contraception, a ban on some sex acts, and more.
The Republicans are refusing to admit to the crimes Trump committed while in office. Just look at the e******n planks of the Republicans in Texas.
I was worried about an overwhelming e******n Republican victory because of inflation. Now, not so much. The GOP has pissed off women, B****s, and those that realize what Trump is and what he has done. The Republicans just may have overplayed their hand. I think that the Republicans may have seized defeat from the jaws of victory.
The Republican Party has been successful in many o... (show quote)


Dream on f*g lover

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Jun 25, 2022 21:38:24   #
Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle
 
[quote=Sonny Magoo]Dream on /quote]

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Jun 26, 2022 02:22:20   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
JFlorio wrote:
Two far left periodicals. Not saying they’re wrong but they’re biased.


They may be biased, but Brookings is a very reputable firm that I have done some work for over the years. If they put it in writing, its usually very accurate. But read them, they are not saying Trump is guilty, they just discuss the charges and give some background. If you watch the J6 testimony, they are providing volumes of evidence for each charge. I'm not the judge or jury, his guilt looks very solid to me based upon what has been coming out by primarily republican insiders that were hand picked by Trump and were in his administration, and the testimony is all given under oath so if they lie they can go to prison.

But the question was asked what the charges are, we are not there yet, there have been no formal charges, but these are what it looks like they could be when all is said and done.

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Jun 26, 2022 02:33:18   #
Wildlandfirefighter
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
And your evidence of these "crimes?" It appears all you have is hearsay, he said-she said. An opinion of e******n f***d is not a part of those allegations.


Man you don't even understand what "hearsay" means!

Hearsay evidence is when a first hand witness sees or hears something, and then he/she tells someone else that they saw or heard it, and at trial the second person relates what they were told by the first hand witness. Hearsay evidence is usually inadmissible in court.

Nearly all of the testimony in the J6 hearings is first hand. It is not someone who heard about something that Trump said or did by someone who was in the room or on the phone with Trump. It's all coming from people in his inner circle that he appointed into their jobs, and that were right there in the room when Trump was talking. There is tons of evidence that is in written form directly from Trump, and hours of recorded phone and other conversations. The amount of material makes the Watergate tapes look tiny in comparison.

So again, when are you going to get the balls to get out of your safe zone of Trump lies and at least attempt to educate yourself?

No better time than now!

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