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May 29, 2013 15:48:39   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
mmccarty12 wrote:
USpatriot77, I believe you think all of these individuals are l***hes. In some, but not all cases, I agree with you. Prison is supposed to be a place of punishment, but why not introduce some rehabilitation into the mix. Allowing them the chance to integrate back into society and not be a criminal is a better product of the prison system then putting them in, make them break rocks all day and then release them when their time is up. Would you rather have someone who committed a crime exit prison with the necessary ability to reintegrate into society, who realizes the error(s) of his/her ways and wants to work within society? Or would you want someone coming out of prison with a bad attitude, a bad taste in their mouth and decide society did nothing for them, so society's rules and laws do not apply, only to become a prisoner again?

I agree, take away the TV and the free health equipment. But I also agree they need a chance to get educated(not college level, do that on their own dime after they are out) and to receive training in a trade sk**l.

I h**e quoting the Bible, but I believe this apropos. Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. Do not make them dependent, but give them a chance.

I have worked in the past with several ex-cons. Then I mistrusted them and their intentions. Now, in many cases, I would rather work with, even for, an ex-con than some of the people I have worked with since.

Those who make an effort to rehabilitate and reintegrate should be allowed the same benefits. Those who do not, what can you do?
USpatriot77, I believe you think all of these indi... (show quote)


Were you reading my mind? See my post immediately before yours.

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May 29, 2013 17:59:11   #
Hora
 
Yes you right some peoples need real help, but many simple don't won work and won live free from a GOV and get food Stamp.I was heard some woman get over (1000$) in food stamp and I ask why? when many get a few cent? A real problem are so much American thing are smart and live for free plus now donate food stamp to i******s. That is one reason why we are full with i******s. All is will bring consequence and Dems will accept a responsibility?

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May 29, 2013 20:07:57   #
USpatriot77 Loc: USA
 
mmccarty12 wrote:
USpatriot77, I believe you think all of these individuals are l***hes. In some, but not all cases, I agree with you. Prison is supposed to be a place of punishment, but why not introduce some rehabilitation into the mix. Allowing them the chance to integrate back into society and not be a criminal is a better product of the prison system then putting them in, make them break rocks all day and then release them when their time is up. Would you rather have someone who committed a crime exit prison with the necessary ability to reintegrate into society, who realizes the error(s) of his/her ways and wants to work within society? Or would you want someone coming out of prison with a bad attitude, a bad taste in their mouth and decide society did nothing for them, so society's rules and laws do not apply, only to become a prisoner again?

I agree, take away the TV and the free health equipment. But I also agree they need a chance to get educated(not college level, do that on their own dime after they are out) and to receive training in a trade sk**l.

I h**e quoting the Bible, but I believe this apropos. Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. Do not make them dependent, but give them a chance.

I have worked in the past with several ex-cons. Then I mistrusted them and their intentions. Now, in many cases, I would rather work with, even for, an ex-con than some of the people I have worked with since.

Those who make an effort to rehabilitate and reintegrate should be allowed the same benefits. Those who do not, what can you do?
USpatriot77, I believe you think all of these indi... (show quote)

I'm sorry you feel that way-but, Statistics show that over 90% of p*******es re-offend, &2% of armed robbers , 89% of burglars, and over 50% of murderers re-offend. I speak from a victim's perspective and from a law enforcement side.there's an old saying that goes something like this,"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." The problem in America today(concerning law breakers) is, America has gotten soft on crimes and the criminals know it! Make the penalty fit the crime and quit listening to all these "bleeding heart liberals" who say like you that rehabilitation is the best thing. BULL****!
Criminals are criminals because they are lazy, they are ignorant, they are bully's, they are just plain evil.
What's next? Do you think America should try to rehabilitate AL Quaeda and the Somalie war lords?

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May 29, 2013 23:17:59   #
mmccarty12 Loc: Zionsville, Indiana
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
I'm sorry you feel that way-but, Statistics show that over 90% of p*******es re-offend, &2% of armed robbers , 89% of burglars, and over 50% of murderers re-offend. I speak from a victim's perspective and from a law enforcement side.there's an old saying that goes something like this,"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." The problem in America today(concerning law breakers) is, America has gotten soft on crimes and the criminals know it! Make the penalty fit the crime and quit listening to all these "bleeding heart liberals" who say like you that rehabilitation is the best thing. BULL****!
Criminals are criminals because they are lazy, they are ignorant, they are bully's, they are just plain evil.
What's next? Do you think America should try to rehabilitate AL Quaeda and the Somalie war lords?
I'm sorry you feel that way-but, Statistics show t... (show quote)


First off, you seem to not read the posts. Most of what you started with I already said. Secondly, I singled out p*******es, rapists and murderers for special non-consideration in my post. Go back and read it. And, while rehabilitation does not work for all, we should not forsake it for those for whom it does work.

Not all criminals are lazy, ignorant, bullies or evil, and some are all four. It is general categorization done by people like you that causes problems. You cannot say Joe is an i***t and therefore conclude all Joes are i***ts. That makes you the biggest i***t of all if you believe that way. Now, assuming you are not an i***t, you cannot rehabilitate fanaticism and you cannot compare fanatics and their behaviors to criminals. Apples to cockroaches.

To answer your last question, how do you propose to get rid of an idea when you make martyrs of those you k**l for their beliefs? War lords are easy, just look no further than the sniper mantra, "One Shot, One K**l".

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May 30, 2013 00:08:49   #
Hora
 
Now I will ask to all who most request food stamp?B****s woman,Puerto Rican and Latinos and a lot of w****s liberals,
like here in OH in a south appalache are each woman get 1050$ per children.In another side yes many senior citizen who have low fix income get food stamp, older peoples who was work all life and many are disable.GOV call me Latino, but I NOT considered Latino and sorry I don't like latinos, I know a lot of Latinos who don't won work and are Puerto Rican.Yes I am retired and disable 65 my income social security and SSI combined are 732$ per month and I must survive and I paid rent a half 300$ and Electric bill and TV services, my girlfriend is paid another spend. Now are her daughter in a home and live in and we need help her who are 21 and no have job.Over a last 30 years I was see a lot of abuser, with new car shopping and paid with food stamp, another have vacation every years.But is not all 100% abuser, but easy 50% are.But I was see young man and woman,young 20 years all with SSI and welfare why? simple have bipolar decease,can work but many work under a table, many another change food stamp for drug. Now is legalice all Mexican i******s American will see what real are Mexican.

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May 30, 2013 00:33:23   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
USpatriot77 wrote:
I'm sorry you feel that way-but, Statistics show that over 90% of p*******es re-offend, &2% of armed robbers , 89% of burglars, and over 50% of murderers re-offend. I speak from a victim's perspective and from a law enforcement side.there's an old saying that goes something like this,"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." The problem in America today(concerning law breakers) is, America has gotten soft on crimes and the criminals know it! Make the penalty fit the crime and quit listening to all these "bleeding heart liberals" who say like you that rehabilitation is the best thing. BULL****!
Criminals are criminals because they are lazy, they are ignorant, they are bully's, they are just plain evil.
What's next? Do you think America should try to rehabilitate AL Quaeda and the Somalie war lords?
I'm sorry you feel that way-but, Statistics show t... (show quote)


If you can rehabilitate them with a bullet in the skull, go ahead.

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May 30, 2013 15:59:38   #
Hora
 
Ok, let said I am a old man,I am here for 34 years, I come from different place with different education.My son was 2 years old and my Daughter was born, my only thing was work and support my family,never I was GOV nothing,also never I was have medical insurance.Until I was get a stroke and heavy arthritis ad retired early and get SSI.When I was working I was happy work around 70 hours per week and make my money,now I must live poor.Over a times I was see a lot of abuse not only latinos w****s American and black too.Section 8? many abuse.Here GOV are guilty in all, complain how business abuse Medicare, but nothing doing.I have a big problem walk,I was get from Medicaid a electric mobility scooter,charge 2000$ when I can get for less of 1500$ and that scooter was change because a first was with big problem,a contractor who sell was know a problem but any way sell.GOV is paid amount contractor said,don't see if a real price.WELL THAT ARE A LEGAL FRAUDE.Now when I was became disable yes I was get Medicaid and a little food stamp.But why a social worker not check and investigate each case get who real not need a help and who need? I know a man and woman two child live from GOV, not work plus a older son have a nice check, plus another case young man 34 all his life live from a GOV, is a lot of smart who live from GOV, a most worst are never work or paid any taxes in all life.Dems must change or cease of exist,dem promote lazy peoples plus corrupt any thing touch.Nomaba will leave a White House only in one way,under arrest.

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May 30, 2013 16:02:10   #
irondoor827
 
are you sure you want all the low income White-people to stop getting food stamps?

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May 30, 2013 16:47:57   #
oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)
 
irondoor827 wrote:
are you sure you want all the low income White-people to stop getting food stamps?


So you are one of those r****ts who think we should do things according to race? True?

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May 30, 2013 17:02:54   #
Hora
 
Low income are one thing but smart lacy are complete different, dems push and support lazy, plus see i******s are eligible for early retirement. A onlyn true to all problem are Dem-liberals. If now was not in a power we was have many less problems.

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May 31, 2013 02:05:56   #
Ghost Loc: The 1st state to ever secede
 
OPP Newsletter wrote:
http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/27/food-stamp-ban-for-p*******es-murders-rapists-deemed-r****t/


I think such stupidity is a crime against humanity to allow such idiocy to draw breath...

If they cannot get their way then the natural thing to do is to scream r****m in hopes people will take them seriously. It's almost akin to North Koreans threatening nuclear war every few months...

Everytime they play the race card I feel like getting into their faces and screaming at the top of my lungs to tell them to: SHUT THE F**K UP!

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May 31, 2013 11:02:15   #
Hora
 
In part you have a right, but here are two types of criminals: p*******es, murder, rapist, sexual crimes and that must be in jail for life, and another types of criminals who I call legal criminals and this types are worse of first type, liberals who promote all against a Law, nature, moral, honesty and decency. Who are more abuse a system are 99% liberals-dem. Conservatives we have a different mentality. See one in Arizona i******s walk on a street with sign claim recall a sheriff and some another liberals, another case i******s claim and demanding a reform and set a rules? that happening for influence and support of Dem-liberals who also promote use food stamp and all American benefit, see for how long Nobama grand food stamp to i******s? Many was joke and mock in my face, but yes I NOT writing English well, why? simple when I come here I was need work only work, I remember only one time I was get disability benefit, when I was work and never was be in home only for sleep and some time seven days for week over 70 Hours, but I was feel to happy and never won depend from Gov, that happening for my education in home. Now real I am old 65 and sick, my income SS is under 10.000$ per year and force me live poor
Mexican come here for a benefit and control we over a time,when more children have more chance of control political life in a short future.My only benefit now are medical insurance or Medicare, I must take medication for life with no choice.But remember one thing my mind now are some alike of any American conservative born here, I shame said I talk Spanish.

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May 31, 2013 16:12:39   #
irondoor827
 
Ghost wrote:
I think such stupidity is a crime against humanity to allow such idiocy to draw breath...

If they cannot get their way then the natural thing to do is to scream r****m in hopes people will take them seriously. It's almost akin to North Koreans threatening nuclear war every few months...

Everytime they play the race card I feel like getting into their faces and screaming at the top of my lungs to tell them to: SHUT THE F**K UP!


that will get your but kicked all over your confederate f**g....and like I said get your GED and people wont have to keep explaining things to you...that means you will have to stop collecting cans in your shopping cart and start reading again... your mind also needs some work...

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May 31, 2013 16:25:28   #
irondoor827
 
banjojack wrote:
I should perhaps clarify something before I begin: There may be a misunderstanding or confusion given the content of my last post. I DO NOT advocate giving food stamps to convicted murderers, rapists, and drug offenders. The title of the last post simply referred to "violent offenders." This would be a kind of "catch all" which varied widely from state to state. Specific crimes, with the same criteria, are different. I believe strongly in drug testing. alcohol screens, and a work requirement for the able bodied. The current system is flawed and arbitrary and unfair, giving benefits to those who are ineligible, (or should be), while denying them to some who could really use them. I always thought they were intended to be, in most cases, temporary help, anyway, not a career choice. Drug and alcohol testing, and a work requirement for the able bodied should be mandatory, along with an overhaul which eliminates the billions of dollars of waste that are incurred by giving benefits to i*****l a***ns who s**m the system. If only truly needy American citizens with no record of murder or rape, received these benefits, and if the substance testing and work requirements were instituted, it would save hundreds of billions of dollars. Concerning the complaint that b****s would be "unfairly" impacted, (not to mention i******s): Perhaps if they did not commit these crimes far out of proportion to their numbers, they would not be so heavily impacted. (Before you shout "r****m," Google DOJ crime statistics by race; I am not making this up, these facts are obtained from the ERIC HOLDER DOJ, hardly a stronghold of the KKK).
I should perhaps clarify something before I begin:... (show quote)


when you work for food stamps it puts thousands of free labor in the job market..do you wish to work for free????

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May 31, 2013 17:22:03   #
mmccarty12 Loc: Zionsville, Indiana
 
irondoor827 wrote:
that will get your but kicked all over your confederate f**g

So conservatives are MORE likely to commits acts of violence than liberals? From your statement that does not seem to be the case. In fact liberals are more likely to get violent, but as one you know it for the t***h. Oh, wait, the t***h does not matter to liberals, only what your feelings are at the moment.

irondoor827 wrote:
....and like I said get your GED.

Why should Ghost get a GED? He/she probably already has a high school diploma from somewhere that actually educated him as opposed to the one you went to where they told you what to remember and how to spout it back. I would even go so far as to bet Ghost has at least a Bachelor's degree as well.

irondoor827 wrote:
and people wont have to keep explaining things to you

As your education in language and grammar seems to be lacking allow me to correct the above sentence:
and people won't have to keep explaining things to you
Notice the placement of the apostrophe, it becomes the shortened form of the phrase will not. What you wrote, wont, has two meanings according to Merriam-Webster - wont:
1. accustomed, used
2. inclined, apt

Merriam-Webster - won't:
will not

Here are the links I used:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wont
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/won't

I know you won't believe the definitions even if you see it as liberals are wont to do, but I am inclined to try to help you in any way possible.

When denigrating someone about their education level, be very careful you make no mistakes, or else you will prove your lack of education and give your enemies the ammunition with which to slay you.

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