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Jun 24, 2022 20:22:49   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Justice101 wrote:
Au contraire, it is our big and bloated government that is destroying our country, and the kleptocracy behind it.


That Kleptocracy is what driving you. You are being driven to h**e Americans for other’s profits. The oligarchs.

Donny Jr. said democrats are not even human.

We squabble amongst ourselves at their whim. They pay the manipulators and the influencers and some of the news feed and none of us know what to trust

They are winning. The oligarchs.

A red site today and Bill Gates farm land acquisitions was being portrayed as dire.

If we let the oligarchs keep us infighting their plan will work.

Full circle maybe, serfdom & structure.

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Jun 24, 2022 20:31:10   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Milosia2 wrote:
States Rights is exactly what the Koch Brothers have been working at.
That was the reason for firing up
ALEC
Or
The American Legislative Executive Council
Who writes Republican bills for Republican State Legislatures to pass .
All Koch Money.
Undermining our democracy.


They are oligarchs

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Jun 24, 2022 20:36:52   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Justice101 wrote:
Au contraire, it is our big and bloated government that is destroying our country, and the kleptocracy behind it.


More lies .
Stop buying them .
A government needs money to operate.
the money it spends to operate should benefit the people who also pay taxes to keep the government operating, not China where we’ve been buying all the government products from. And not the
Rich people who don’t need it. But continue to strangle this country like Shylock money lenders threatening to break your legs if you can’t pay the “Vig” .
These are not democrats or republicans or independents.
They have one party …Money !
They rely on hooks to spur enthusiasm for their own causes. You think you’ve won but ? Your pockets are still empty.
Wake up !
You already know your Republican Party has been destroyed by them , and yet , you still keep helping them.
Time to wake up from your hazey sleep.
If they win you lose.
They don’t care about you and never did.

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Jun 24, 2022 20:54:31   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
RascalRiley wrote:
They are oligarchs


That’s one of the things they’re called.
Among other things.
They have no party.

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Jun 24, 2022 20:59:14   #
Justice101
 
RascalRiley wrote:
That Kleptocracy is what driving you. You are being driven to h**e Americans for other’s profits. The oligarchs.

Donny Jr. said democrats are not even human.

We squabble amongst ourselves at their whim. They pay the manipulators and the influencers and some of the news feed and none of us know what to trust

They are winning. The oligarchs.

A red site today and Bill Gates farm land acquisitions was being portrayed as dire.

If we let the oligarchs keep us infighting their plan will work.

Full circle maybe, serfdom & structure.
That Kleptocracy is what driving you. You are bein... (show quote)


I don't h**e the wealthy, only the corrupt wealthy and our government that lets its members of Congress ignore the laws that we commoners must follow or else. They all say that "nobody is above the law", but they aren't referring to bodies, and they exclude themselves of course!

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Jun 24, 2022 21:05:09   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Milosia2 wrote:
That’s one of the things they’re called.
Among other things.
They have no party.


Oligarchs consider themselves citizens of the world and they can do wh**ever they please. For their benefit.

I am glad I am old

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Jun 24, 2022 21:10:03   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Milosia2 wrote:
That’s one of the things they’re called.
Among other things.
They have no party.

Opportunist has con man connotations

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Jun 24, 2022 21:37:31   #
son of witless
 
Milosia2 wrote:
When this happens ,you won’t want to live here either.


When that happens, next January for the House and the Senate, I likely will be as royally disturbed as you are now because some Rinos and other low lives will be doing to the Republicans what Sinema and Manchin did to your Democrats.

As far as what my side gets accomplished, after we take back the White House in 2024, Anything we actually do get done will make me especially happy. And if it makes you angry enough to spit nails here on OPP, well that would be icing on the big fat chocolate cake.

You guys getting Joe I***t in as President and him enacting the Bernie Sanders Left Wing Agenda of G****l W*****g, and t*********r horse crap, is the high water mark for you guys. The flood waters of destruction are receding. Soon my guys will assess the flood damages and see if America can be put back together. Maybe it can't.

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Jun 24, 2022 22:04:36   #
Justice101
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Same sex relationships for one.

Take the country back to before the Stonewell R**ts in 69. More private prisons will be needed if same sex relationships become illegal again. State’s rights.

Contraception is also on the line.

As well as anything not explicitly protected in the Constitutional.
Except for the liberty for all part.

This is being championed by a Supreme Court Justice, aka Ginny Thomas

https://www.rawstory.com/clarence-thomas-marriage/


https://www.hli.org/resources/supreme-court-legalizes-gay-marriage/

The Supreme Court was legislating from the bench again. Congress can pass a law to protect the legalization of gay marriages.

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Jun 24, 2022 22:28:28   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Justice101 wrote:
https://www.hli.org/resources/supreme-court-legalizes-gay-marriage/

The Supreme Court was legislating from the bench again. Congress can pass a law to protect the legalization of gay marriages.
Oh, you mean senators from 26 states that are participating?

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Jun 24, 2022 22:38:24   #
Rose42
 
RascalRiley wrote:
They are oligarchs


No. The oligarchs are more powerful than the Kochs. They control your country too.

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Jun 24, 2022 22:57:53   #
Justice101
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Oh, you mean senators from 26 states that are participating?


What Is the Supreme Court Permitted to Do?
The Supreme Court is not permitted to pass legislation. That is the sole prerogative of the legislative branch. The Supreme Court is the highest part of the judicial branch of government. It is merely permitted to interpret the laws already in existence.

How then can it ‘legalize gay marriage?’ It can only do this by interpreting an existing law. For this reason, the decision rests on the method of interpreting law, especially the Constitution, by each of the nine judges on the Court.

The Supreme Court Legalizes Gay “Marriage”
Justice Kennedy presented the majority opinion of the court as follows: “The Constitution promises liberty to all within its reach, a liberty that includes certain specific rights that allow persons, within a lawful realm, to define and express their identity.” He then argues that the petitioners for same-sex marriage have been previously denied this liberty. He makes these claims on the basis of the Fourteenth Amendment, which guarantees that any citizen’s rights to life, liberty, and property will not be taken away without due process, as well as “equal protection of the laws.”

This amendment was ratified in 1868 and its primary concern is clearly not the free expression of personal identity but rather the citizenship of “all persons born or naturalized in the United States.” This phrase is the very first in the amendment and is clearly meant to include emancipated s***es as citizens and to ensure their consequent rights as such. Nevertheless, Justice Kennedy interprets this to mean that the states cannot pass laws to limit the liberty of citizens’ self-expression.

Justice Kennedy then makes the claim that “The history of marriage is one of both continuity and change. That institution—even as confined to opposite-sex relations—has evolved over time.” He then describes how marriage was once used as a tool for social and financial benefit, but as the nature of women’s role in society changed, marriage became fundamentally changed and, as he claims, “strengthened, not weakened.” He does not give a definition of marriage here but takes the position that all institutions must evolve to bring about maximum liberty and prosperity and that this develops as our understanding of liberty changes (meaning, for him, an unbounded increase in the direction of perfect license.)

Justice Kennedy, having set the background favorably for himself, argues that the Bill of Rights in tandem with the Fourteenth Amendment protect the liberty to same-sex “marriage,” even though that was not the intended scope of such legislation. He claims that the nature of liberty is such that it must be discovered over time and that the men who framed the Constitution left it up to future generations to fill in the gaps in the liberties guaranteed in their work. His argument is rife with terms and ideas that have no definite meaning and boil down to vague and unprecedented ideas which he believes accomplish his purpose but merely leave even the careful reader confused. Justice Scalia’s dissenting opinion makes this quite clear.

Throughout our nation’s history, liberty has been the freedom from restraint. This is the liberty that is spoken of in the 14th Amendment, but Justice Kennedy and the majority of the court push it one step further. They use the notion of the development of liberty to turn the protection of liberty into a “font of substantive rights” as Justice Thomas says. This is a blatant misreading of the Constitution because “in the American legal tradition, liberty has long been understood as individual freedom from government action, not as a right to a particular governmental entitlement.”

The petitioners were not looking for freedom from geographic restraint, incarceration, or any other prohibitions. Instead, they were looking for the same government entitlements as those given to a different group of people that the government separately deemed worthy of such entitlements. This could only be rightly given if the government decided that same-sex couples provided the same constructive benefit to society as the traditional family does. But this is not how this change was affected. Rather, the issue became one of quibbling over ‘rights’ which were never acknowledged in law and over the definition of marriage.

The petitioners attempted to circumvent the democratic process by redefining the law through the judiciary. The worst part of this is that they succeeded.

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Jun 24, 2022 23:12:27   #
Justice101
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Oh, you mean senators from 26 states that are participating?


The Supreme Court is not permitted to pass legislation. That is the sole prerogative of the legislative branch. The Supreme Court is the highest part of the judicial branch of government. It is merely permitted to interpret the laws already in existence.

How then can it ‘legalize gay marriage?’ It can only do this by interpreting an existing law. For this reason, the decision rests on the method of interpreting law, especially the Constitution, by each of the nine judges on the Court.

Obergefell v. Hodges wasn't interpreted on an existing law; thus, this particular Court incorrectly interpreted the United States Constitution to pass legislation (5-4) that legalized same-sex marriage in all 50 states.

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