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Jun 25, 2022 15:21:31   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Dude...Once again, an excerpt from the article....

"In January 2018, the U.S. Supreme Court agreed to hear arguments on the latest version of the travel ban and on June 26, 2018, v**ed (in a 5-to-4 v**e) to uphold the constitutionality of the third version of the 'Muslim ban' ".


They could call it a chicken ban for all I care, but it was NEVER a Muslim ban.

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Jun 25, 2022 15:35:14   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
For your edification, Randy (or should I address you also as 'dude'.....

https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-enforcement/understanding-the-muslim-bans/


Dude, again, just calling it a Muslim ban doesn't make it one. Get it?? But trying to detect and stop Islamic terrorists from entering the country is going to be kind of hard since they are generally all Muslims. Duh. In looking for Islamic terrorist should we, in fairness, be screening Catholics from Italy???

I guess you still think Trump said there are good neo-N**i's.

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Jun 25, 2022 15:41:33   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Dude, again, just calling it a Muslim ban doesn't make it one. Get it?? But trying to detect and stop Islamic terrorists from entering the country is going to be kind of hard since they are generally all Muslims. Duh. In looking for Islamic terrorist should we, in fairness, be screening Catholics from Italy???

I guess you still think Trump said there are good neo-N**i's.

Old friend, you remain hopelessly incorrigible.

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Jun 25, 2022 15:43:35   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
So, in essence, you agree with my previous post's opening paragraph, in that it is a matter of individual perspective and partisan/ideological differences, e.g., if Biden walked across the Atlantic for a NATO Conference, you would proclaim "Joe can't swim"

Regarding Trump's "style" and international standing: He is The Ugly American.

Greatest Description of Donald Trump Ever (You edged into somewhat in the right direction)

“Why do some British people not like Donald Trump?” Nate White, an articulate and witty writer from England wrote the following response:

A few things spring to mind. Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem. For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed. So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.

Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever. I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman. But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.

Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers. And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.

There is never any under-layer of irony, complexity, nuance or depth. It’s all surface. Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront. Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul. And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist. Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that. He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat. He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.

And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully. That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly t***sforms into a snivelling sidekick instead. There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.

So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think ‘Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:

• Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.

• You don’t need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.

This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss. After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of sh*t. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum. God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid. He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart. In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.

And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clump-fuls of hair and scream in anguish: ‘My God… what… have… I… created?’ If being a twit was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
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What I am reading here is that you don't judge Trump by his actions as president but rather, you judge him for his personality and manner(s)(isms). <ost of us who support Trump don't see him as our kind of guy, but we think he did god things for the country where as Biden is tearing us apart at the seems.

That being said, in 2019 I traveled through both London airports, crisscrossed London on their trains, spent time in the Isle of Mann and spoke to everyone I could. ALL, every single one, said they wished they had a President Trump running their country. I think your boy, Nate, must work for CNN or something akin.

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Jun 25, 2022 15:44:04   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Old friend, you remain hopelessly incorrigible.


And in this case, correct.

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Jun 25, 2022 15:55:37   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What I am reading here is that you don't judge Trump by his actions as president but rather, you judge him for his personality and manner(s)(isms). <ost of us who support Trump don't see him as our kind of guy, but we think he did god things for the country where as Biden is tearing us apart at the seems.

That being said, in 2019 I traveled through both London airports, crisscrossed London on their trains, spent time in the Isle of Mann and spoke to everyone I could. ALL, every single one, said they wished they had a President Trump running their country. I think your boy, Nate, must work for CNN or something akin.
What I am reading here is that you don't judge Tru... (show quote)

I was just building/explaining the consensus expressed by AuntiE's assessment of his personality.

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Jun 25, 2022 15:57:57   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
And in this case, correct.

Not according to Rudy Giuliani, the courts and the Anti-Defamation League.

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Jun 25, 2022 16:31:04   #
Big Kahuna
 
slatten49 wrote:
Old friend, you remain hopelessly incorrigible.


Slats, your skull is as thick as the Rock of Gibraltar. You are so stuck in your silly "ways" that even your "curds" expose your dirty words. Go eat your curds and ways.

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Jun 25, 2022 17:26:55   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Not according to Rudy Giuliani, the courts and the Anti-Defamation League.


What do they know?

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Jun 25, 2022 19:07:36   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
For your edification, Randy (or should I address you also as 'dude'.....

https://www.nilc.org/issues/immigration-enforcement/understanding-the-muslim-bans/


Sorry. It appeared to be the ongoing style of addressing based on the prior posts. Just like the style of saying courts are r****t because they send more B****s than W****s (by percentage) into prison, ignoring that young Black men commit the majority (by percentage) of violent crime. Or calling a woman a man, ignoring her sexual plumbing. Or calling a limitation on specific immigrants, for the purpose of protecting Americans, a Muslim ban. Your article was a little informative, but clearly biased and pushing an opinion. Try finding one that objectively looks at the facts. Would YOU accept an article by Rush Limbaugh as evidence for MY position?

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Jun 25, 2022 19:13:22   #
Big Kahuna
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What do they know?


Those groups you mentioned are clueless.

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Jun 25, 2022 19:15:33   #
RandyBrian Loc: Texas
 
slatten49 wrote:
Old friend, you remain hopelessly incorrigible.


Incorrigible or not, he remains correct and accurate.
If there was a disease that was vectored entirely by red heads, and Biden issued and EO requiring any red head entering the USA be examined, you would applaud his fast reaction and quick thinking. If Trump did the exactly the same thing, you would condemn it as r****t, an intentional insult to our allies, and demand impeachment.

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Jun 25, 2022 21:17:03   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Incorrigible or not, he remains correct and accurate.
If there was a disease that was vectored entirely by red heads, and Biden issued and EO requiring any red head entering the USA be examined, you would applaud his fast reaction and quick thinking. If Trump did the exactly the same thing, you would condemn it as r****t, an intentional insult to our allies, and demand impeachment.


Nailed it!

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Jun 25, 2022 21:17:47   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RandyBrian wrote:
Sorry. It appeared to be the ongoing style of addressing based on the prior posts. Just like the style of saying courts are r****t because they send more B****s than W****s (by percentage) into prison, ignoring that young Black men commit the majority (by percentage) of violent crime. Or calling a woman a man, ignoring her sexual plumbing. Or calling a limitation on specific immigrants, for the purpose of protecting Americans, a Muslim ban. Your article was a little informative, but clearly biased and pushing an opinion. Try finding one that objectively looks at the facts. Would YOU accept an article by Rush Limbaugh as evidence for MY position?
Sorry. It appeared to be the ongoing style of add... (show quote)



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Jun 25, 2022 22:16:07   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
slatten49 wrote:
Yeah, and denial is a river in Egypt.

Even if so, legal teams are either trained and prepared for procedural BS...or not.


I think you are overlooking the fact that at the time all these requests were denied, a lot of evidence is now available that was not known then. By the time anyone could do anything about it it will be time for the '24 e******ns anyway and we'll be rid of the Senile Sock Puppet.

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