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To Indict Or Not To Indict...Why The Politics Of Prosecuting Trump Matter
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Jun 22, 2022 17:10:53   #
martsiva
 
woodguru wrote:
This will be seen as political regardless, it is not political to prosecute crimes, while it's nothing but political not to because of the fear of it looking political.

Going after someone because they committed crimes is a whole other thing than going after someone for political reasons alone...

Meanwhile those who support trump will never get it that he actually did things that he needs to be prosecuted for.

For those who can understand and absorb facts and reality this has some good logical explanations.

https://lawandcrime.com/j***6-committee/legal-experts-explain-why-appointing-a-special-counsel-to-investigate-trump-for-j***6-is-not-as-easy-as-you-might-think/
This will be seen as political regardless, it is n... (show quote)


Meanwhile those who support Biden should know that he should be prosecuted for breaking our i*********n l*ws and allowing 1000s of ILLEGAL into this country!!!! Now those are facts about breaking our laws and are not political!!

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Jun 22, 2022 17:25:17   #
martsiva
 
Airforceone wrote:
What’s going to backfire I would be interested in hearing this. You don’t even believed the testimony of Trumps inner circle. But you believe a drunk Rudy. You should be ashamed of yourself you h**e filled r****t.


'H**e filled r****t' is what imbeciles like you call those who don`t agree with your ludicrous bullsh!t!!! YOU are the one who is the h**e filled r****t since that is all you post about, calling everyone a r****t!!!!! You want to deny that?? Of course you don`t because YOU know it`s true and you run like the coward that you are when challenged!!

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Jun 22, 2022 17:27:28   #
martsiva
 
proud republican wrote:
Why is it anybody you disagree with is r****t?


Because that is what he/she/it is!! Just a nasty little individual who is a pathetic loser!!!

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Jun 22, 2022 17:34:58   #
Airforceone
 
jSmitty45 wrote:
👏👏👏


Yup power shifted to a pathological lying Sociopath and you believe everything Trump tells you expecially the big lie of v***r f***d where every court in this country threw that drunk Rudy G out and took his license to practice law away.

All but three of Trumps inner circle told Trump that v***r f***d was BS he choose not to believe it. We listened to taped phone calls from Trump trying to get these Secretary of states to throw out the v**e and turn the e*****rs over to Trump. Video evidence showing nothing illegal with the count but still you push this lie. What the hell do you people want you have gone thru 62 judges 11 of them appointed by Trump. Went to the SCOTUS the CIA FBI and the DOJ and all was BS and you know it. Then sit back and watch Trump raise $250 million off the big lie and you can’t understand that you are being s**mmed and he will continue as long as people like you allow it.

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Jun 22, 2022 17:37:00   #
Airforceone
 
martsiva wrote:
Because that is what he/she/it is!! Just a nasty little individual who is a pathetic loser!!!


No another clown car riding that is a cheerleader for conspiracy theories and you call me a loser by trying to save our democracy and rule of law from pathetic people like yourself.

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Jun 22, 2022 17:41:25   #
martsiva
 
Airforceone wrote:
Will you grow up


NO - You grow up!! You are so full of h**e and a dam coward to boot!! You are all about Trump being prosecuted but are too much of a coward to bring up the fact that Biden and his filthy ilk have broken our i*********n l*ws and allowed 1000s of I******S into this country!!!! You want to discuss that??

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Jun 22, 2022 17:46:42   #
Drue-Marie
 
EmilyD wrote:
Archie is a nice person.
You are not. Have someone read your posts to you and listen to them with your eyes closed. If you don't hear yourself as incredibly h**eful while listening to someone read your own writings to you, then you need therapy.

GOT IT????


Do you need to take blood pressure medicine? Geez, Emily. Relax, so you don't give yourself an aneurysm.

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Jun 22, 2022 17:57:38   #
martsiva
 
Airforceone wrote:
No another clown car riding that is a cheerleader for conspiracy theories and you call me a loser by trying to save our democracy and rule of law from pathetic people like yourself.


YOU are NOT trying to save our democracy when you support Democrats and all the damage they`ve don to this country!! YOU are NOT trying to save our democracy when you support Democrats who have OENLY supported Marxist c*******m!!! Now you want to discuss these facts or will you run like the little coward that you are!!! YOU are a pathetic, r****t loser who resorts to name calling when faced with facts!!!

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Jun 22, 2022 18:18:46   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
woodguru wrote:
This will be seen as political regardless, it is not political to prosecute crimes, while it's nothing but political not to because of the fear of it looking political.

Going after someone because they committed crimes is a whole other thing than going after someone for political reasons alone...

Meanwhile those who support trump will never get it that he actually did things that he needs to be prosecuted for.

For those who can understand and absorb facts and reality this has some good logical explanations.

https://lawandcrime.com/j***6-committee/legal-experts-explain-why-appointing-a-special-counsel-to-investigate-trump-for-j***6-is-not-as-easy-as-you-might-think/
This will be seen as political regardless, it is n... (show quote)

Two words Hillary/ brandon

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Jun 22, 2022 18:19:22   #
Justice101
 
pegw wrote:
The political fallout for prosecuting Trump should not be considered. No one is above the law.


The Democrats are above the law. Michael Sussman should have been found guilty for the crime that he was indicted for, but the jury pool in DC was stacked with Clintonites and friends of the suspect. The judge disallowed evidence to be brought forward because he was an Obama-appointed judge whose wife was a lawyer for Lisa Page formally of the Democratically political FBI.

Former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith was sentenced to 12 months probation and 400 hours of community service after pleading guilty to making a false statement in the first criminal case arising from Special Counsel John Durham’s investigation into the origins of the Trump-Russia probe.

Clinesmith pleaded guilty to "one count of making a false statement within both the jurisdiction of the executive branch and judicial branch of the U.S. government, an offense that carries a maximum term of imprisonment of five years and a fine of up to $250,000."

U.S. District Judge for the District of Columbia James Boasberg said during Clinesmith's sentencing hearing that Clinesmith had suffered by losing his job and standing in the eye of a media hurricane.

Obviously there are many more examples of the Democrat's "Just-Us" system, but these were the most high-profile recent examples to show.

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Jun 22, 2022 18:20:17   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
Airforceone wrote:
Oh I have read all the h**e and attacks from all you clown car riders. Apparently you ignore the r****t remarks by Archie on OPP he is probably the biggest h**e filled r****t.But when you ride the clown car you can’t see it or just choose to ignore it.
I love this country I understand what made it the greatest country in the world it’s because of the diversity of our population. And you h**e filled r****t bought into a narcissistic sociopath that was a pathological liar and a self admitted white nationalist. You can’t deal with facts because your to rapped up in h**e.

You ignore everything in the history of this country that made it great. So please don’t tell me about Archie I have been reading his garbage for years.
Oh I have read all the h**e and attacks from all y... (show quote)


Really, trdnest? R****t attacks? Funny stuff right there!!
Have I wished death upon anyone's family as you have?
Have I stated on this forum that I want your children to die?
Ummmm.......No!
You have.

Nuff said, angry white man.

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Jun 22, 2022 19:39:26   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
You are the most self-righteous person on OPP. You always push that your side has the high moral ground while they use every underhanded backdoor trick to go after a political enemy. The J6 c*******e is a sham that is devoid of any sense of fairness and integrity and the American people are catching on. That is why no one but the extreme left is watching it.


I disagree. Woody is simply a trolling, POS, DMF not worthy of response, ever.

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Jun 22, 2022 19:51:16   #
son of witless
 
proud republican wrote:
Why is it anybody you disagree with is r****t?


It is his default mind set.

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Jun 22, 2022 19:59:04   #
Justice101
 
Airforceone wrote:
Apparently the republicans in congress are afraid of Trump and Justifiably so.

Look what Trump did with the e******n he advocated the assassination of his Vice President and member of congress all due to the big lie of v***r f***d when there is no evidence of v***r f***d. Trump has control over the worst right wing terrorist in the country. The (KKK) (O**H K****RS) (P***D B**S) (WHITE NATIONALIST) (W***E S*********T) (NEO N**IE)

One word from Trump and he can unleash these morons to commit violence on any person or elected official who disagree with he proved it with 1*6 i**********n this country will be in another civil war.
Look at the attacks that e******n officials went through with there testimony yesterday there lives are are lost there family’s and neighbors were attacked. All based on the big lie by Trump all it takes is one tweet from Trump and these animals go on the attack.

So no one is above the law I beg to differ if your white, rich and have the power like Trump does everybody is afraid there nothing but a bunch of cowards.

Even the DOJ is afraid of indicting Trump because they know Trump controls a bunch of d********g h**e filled r****t.

So this nation needs to stand up to Ttump in order to save our democracy and the rule of law. (THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CAN STOP THIS GARBAGE IF THEY HAD THE INTESTINAL fortitude TO TELL THE T***H ABOUT TRUMP AND SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY.)
The real t***h will save our democracy
Apparently the republicans in congress are afraid ... (show quote)


Note that phrase “our democracy”: Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden, and various talking heads have repeated it ad nauseam. But you do not need an advanced degree in hermeneutics to understand that what they mean by “our democracy” is their oligarchy. Similarly, when Nancy Pelosi talks about “the people’s house,” she doesn’t mean a house that welcomes riff-raff like you and me.

On the contrary, what happened that afternoon, and what happened afterwards, is only intelligible when seen as a chapter in the long-running effort to discredit and, ultimately, to dispose of Donald Trump—as well as what Hillary Clinton might call the “deplorable” populist sentiment that brought Trump to power.

In other words, to understand the J****** 6 i**********n h**x, you also have to understand that other long-running h**x, the Russia collusion h**x. The story of that h**x begins back in 2015, when the resources of the federal government were first mobilized to spy on the Trump campaign, to frame various people close to Trump, and eventually to launch a full-throated criminal investigation of the Trump administration.

From before Trump took office, the Russia collusion h**x was used as a pretext to create a parallel administration shadowing the elected administration. Remember the Steele Dossier, the fantastical document confected by the “well-regarded” British spy Christopher Steele? We know now that it was the only relevant predicate for ordering FISA warrants to spy on Carter Page and other American citizens.

But in t***h, the Steele Dossier was just opposition dirt covertly paid for by the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton campaign. From beginning to end, it was a tissue of lies and fabrications. Everyone involved knew all along it was garbage—rumors and fantasies fed to a gullible Steele by shady Russian sources. But it was nonetheless used to deploy, illegally, the awesome coercive power of the state against a p**********l candidate of whom the ruling bureaucracy and their favored candidate disapproved.

The public learned that the Democratic National Committee paid for the manufactured evidence only because of a court order. James Comey, the disgraced former director of the FBI, publicly denied knowing who paid for it, but emails from a year earlier prove that he knew all along. And what was the penalty for lying in Comey’s case? He got a huge book deal and toured the country denouncing Trump to the gleeful satisfaction of his anti-Trump audiences.


What was true of Comey was also true of the entire intelligence apparat, from former CIA Director John Brennan to Adam Schiff and other Democratic members of the House Intelligence Committee to senior members of the FBI. All these people said publicly that they had seen clear evidence of collusion with Russia. But they admitted under oath behind closed doors that they hadn’t.

General Mike Flynn had his career ruined and was bankrupted as part of a political vendetta. Meanwhile James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page, John Brennan, Peter Strzok, and all the rest of the crew at the FBI, the CIA, and other intel agencies suffered nothing. When it came to light that an FBI lawyer altered an email in order to help get a FISA warrant—in other words, that he doctored evidence to spy on a political opponent, which is a felony—he got probation. Andrew McCabe, meanwhile, a former FBI deputy director, just got his pension restored notwithstanding the fact that an Inspector General’s report concluded that he lied multiple times under oath.

At least 74 million citizens v**ed for Donald Trump in 2020, which is at least 11 million more than v**ed for him in 2016. Many of those v**ers are profoundly disillusioned and increasingly angry about this entire story—the years-long Robert Mueller “investigation,” the two impeachments of President Trump, the cloud of unknowing that surrounds the 2020 e******n, and the many questions that have emerged not only from the J****** 6 protest at the Capitol but, even more, from the government’s response to that protest.

If all of this had been done by the Republicans to a Democratic President for his entire presidency and before he took office, you know damn well that the angry L*****t mob would have torn the Capitol building down and many more police would have been injured, and most probably k**led. The people on the left have proven to be the ones who are the most prone to violent protests and r**ts and Obama had praised violent L*****t r****rs during his presidency. That's not the type of hope and change we were looking for from our leader.

https://www.independentsentinel.com/remember-when-obama-praised-violent-l*****t-r****rs/

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Jun 22, 2022 20:07:36   #
Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ
 
woodguru wrote:
This will be seen as political regardless, it is not political to prosecute crimes, while it's nothing but political not to because of the fear of it looking political.

Going after someone because they committed crimes is a whole other thing than going after someone for political reasons alone...

Meanwhile those who support trump will never get it that he actually did things that he needs to be prosecuted for.

For those who can understand and absorb facts and reality this has some good logical explanations.

https://lawandcrime.com/j***6-committee/legal-experts-explain-why-appointing-a-special-counsel-to-investigate-trump-for-j***6-is-not-as-easy-as-you-might-think/
This will be seen as political regardless, it is n... (show quote)


Wait a minute, just because Trump took the advice of Easton and ran with it doesn't mean he's guilty of a crime. If that's the case then we need to arrest all 535 senators and representatives for partaking in one way or another in the r**ts of 2020.

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