Why Both Republicans And Democrats Are Wrong About Bill Barr
Jun 20, 2022 11:15:44 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
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Why Both Republicans And Democrats Are Wrong About Bill Barr
BY: MARGOT CLEVELAND
JUNE 20, 2022
11 MIN READ
That U.S. prosecutors didn’t find b****t-stuffing in Detroit and Atlanta says nothing about whether there were systemic violations of e******n law and illegal v****g in 2020.
Last week, the J*** 6“Committee” featured video clips from former U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr during its hearing on the violence that erupted at the capitol on J*** 6, 2021. For the few Americans following the show trial, Barr’s testimony seemed a denial by former President Donald Trump’s top law enforcement officer of any legitimate basis to challenge the outcome of the November 2020 e******n.
To Democrats, this proved Trump sought to steal the White House from Biden via a c**p. To Republicans, Barr revealed himself as a t*****r uninterested in investigating v***r f***d. Neither view is correct.
In his deposition, Barr testified about his disagreements with the then-president about claims of e******n f***d. Barr resigned as attorney general on December 14, 2020, in the aftermath of the November general e******n as Trump continued to dispute the outcome. The day he resigned, Barr explained, when he walked in to speak with the president,
[Trump] went off on a monologue saying that there was now definitive evidence involving fraud through the D******n machines and a report had been prepared by a very reputable cybersecurity firm, which he identified as Allied Security Operations Group. And he held up the report and he had — and then he asked that a copy of it be made for me. And while a copy was being made, he said, you know, ‘This is absolute proof that the D******n machines were r****d.’
Barr testified to the committee that he had told the president “they’ve wasted a whole month on these claims — on the D******n v****g machines and they were i***tic claims.” There was “absolutely zero basis for the allegations,” Barr explained, yet people believed there was “this systemic corruption in the system and that their v**es didn’t count and that these machines controlled by somebody else were actually determining it, which was complete nonsense.”
Then-President Trump also raised what he called “the big v**e dump” in Detroit, Barr explained, where “people saw boxes coming into the counting station at all hours of the morning and so forth.” Barr told the committee that he had explained to Trump that there were approximately 630 precincts in Detroit, “and unlike elsewhere in the state, they centralize the counting process. So they’re not counted in each precinct, they’re moved to counting stations. And so a normal process would involve boxes coming in at all different hours.” Barr said point blank, “There’s no indication of fraud in Detroit.”
The committee also heard testimony that Barr had directed B.J. Pak, the then-U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Georgia, to investigate a security tape from the State Farm Arena in Atlanta that Trump believed showed a suitcase of illegal b****ts secreted beneath a table being pulled out after e******n workers had been sent home for the night. Pak explained they investigated the claims and that the longer segment on the video established the alleged black suitcase was actually an official lockbox where b****ts were kept safe.
The bottom line, according to Barr’s testimony, was that he “had not seen any widespread e******n f***d that would question the outcome of the e******n,” and that “the stuff” Trump’s people “were shoveling out to the public were bullsh-t. . . the claims of fraud were bullsh-t.”
Detroit and Atlanta Weren’t the Only Concerns
Claims of e******n f***d, however, represented but a portion of Trump’s challenges to the November 2020 results. Also, that the above claims were “bullsh-t” says nothing about whether there were systemic violations of e******n law and illegal v****g. Nor were those questions ones for the attorney general or the U.S. attorneys investigating allegations of fraud.
Barr made this point in his testimony when he explained that he had told Trump “the department doesn’t take sides in e******ns, and the department is not an extension of — of [Trump’s] legal team. And our role is to investigate fraud.” Barr’s testimony also made clear that the U.S. Department of Justice investigated claims of fraud, such as the supposed “suitcase” of b****ts in Atlanta.
But what Barr didn’t investigate—and indeed shouldn’t have investigated—were the many violations of state e******n law highlighted by Trump’s legal team in their lawsuits challenging the e******n results. For instance, in Georgia, the state e******n code requires residents to “v**e in the county in which they reside, unless they changed their residence within 30 days of the e******n” and “outside of the 30-day grace period, if people v**e in a county in which they no longer reside, ‘their v**e in that county would be illegal.’”
Trump’s legal team obtained solid evidence that as many as 30,000 Georgia residents v**ed illegally in their prior county in 2020. Trump never had his day in court on this challenge, though, which theoretically could have resulted in Georgia’s e******n results tossed.
That’s not the business of the attorney general, however, so those Republicans seeing Barr as derelict misunderstand his role. Likewise, those Democrats championing Barr’s words, believing it establishes a c**p attempt by Trump, ignore that his testimony focused solely on e******n f***d.
Dust-Up About Alleged V**e Trafficking
The former attorney general’s testimony concerning v**e harvesting perfectly illustrates the misplaced role both the right and the left sought to ascribe to Barr. During last week’s J*** 6 C*******e hearing, Barr testified it was his “opinion then” and his “opinion now” “that the e******n was not stolen by fraud.” He added that he hadn’t seen anything since the e******n that changed his “mind on that, including the ‘2,000 Mules’movie.”
The “2,000 Mules” movie, produced by Dinesh D’Souza, “includes information about an investigation by e******n integrity group True The V**e and features its founder Catherine Engelbrecht and its e******n intelligence analyst Gregg Phillips.” D’Souza’s film explains True The V**e’s use of “GPS surveillance geolocation data emitted by cellphones to help identify phones in key battleground states that made numerous trips to multiple e******n drop boxes and, in Georgia, to non-profits which the film does not identify.” The movie also includes videos “of persons placing multiple b****ts into drop boxes—which is illegal in some states, including Georgia, unless those b****ts are for family members.”
Barr told the committee that both he and the Georgia Bureau of Investigations were unimpressed with the use of cellphone geolocation data because, “if you take 2 million cell phones and — and figure out where they are physically in a big city like Atlanta or wherever, just by definition you’re going to find many hundreds of them have passed by and spent time in the vicinity of these boxes.”
The former attorney general added, though, that he held “his fire” on “the photographic evidence…because I thought, well, h-ll, if they have a lot of photographs of the same person dumping a lot of b****ts in different boxes, you know, that’s hard to explain.” There “was a little bit of” photographic evidence from “2,000 Mules,” Barr said, but he found “it was lacking,” and that it “didn’t establish widespread illegal harvesting.”
In response to Barr’s deposition testimony, the “2,000 Mules” producer took to Twitter, challenging the former attorney general to a public debate. “What do you say, Barr?” D’Souza tweeted. “Do you dare back up your belly laughs with arguments that can withstand rebuttal and cross-examination?” D’Souza added in comments to The Epoch Times, “The hearings are one-sided propaganda, not an attempt to get to the t***h.” The producer then invited people to view the evidence in “2,000 Mules” and judge for themselves.
V**e Trafficking Isn’t the AG’s Purview
Some Republicans saw Barr’s dig at D’Souza’s movie as proof the former attorney general was “totally disinterested” in e******n f***d, while Democrats framed Barr’s comments as establishing Trump’s attempt at a c**p. Ignored by both sides, however, was what Barr said next:
The other thing is people don’t understand is that it’s not clear that even if you can show harvesting that that changes the — or the results of the e******n. The courts are not going to throw out v**es and then figure out what v**es were harvested and throw them out. You’d still — the burden on the challenging party to show that illegal v**es were cast, v**es were the result of undue influence or bribes or there was really, you know, the person was non compos mentis. But absent that evidence, I just didn’t see courts throwing out v**es anyway.
With these few sentences Barr capsulized the disconnect between what many Trump v**ers believed the attorney general and federal prosecutors’ roles to be following the November 2020 e******n, and the reality that the Department of Justice’s focus rests on provable federal crimes. Barr tasked federal prosecutors with investigating allegations of widespread fraud, such as the manipulation of the D******n v****g machines and the supposed secreted suitcases of hidden b****ts. U.S. attorney offices found the charges unfounded. And while b****t harvesting may be illegal under some states’ e******n codes, for the Department of Justice to get involved, more than that would be needed.
But even then, as Barr noted, that doesn’t undo the e******n, or rendered Georgia, Michigan, or Pennsylvania’s results void. Rather, courts hear and decide e******n challenges, and such challenges extend far beyond issues of e******n f***d. Therein is the reason Democrats’ parading of Barr’s testimony is also misplaced.
While Barr could testify concerning the cases of v***r f***d the Department of Justice investigated, in the aftermath of the November 2020 e******n the former attorney general did not scrutinize, nor should he have, violations of state e******n law or potential violations of the Equal Protection Clause caused by the states’ disparate standards applied during the e******n.
Evidence of Widespread Illegal V**es
And Trump’s legal team had solid evidence of systemic violations of the e******n code and the widespread counting of illegal v**es, as well as potential Equal Protection violations. Further, in the case of Georgia, there were enough illegal v**es cast to likely render the state’s e******n results void.
Attorney General Barr, however, lacked both the authority (and the tools) to render judgment on matters of state e******n law. His deposition testimony to the committee also suggests that matters of e******n law remain outside his wheelhouse, as a court need not identify the b****ts illegally harvested or cast to rule the e******n results invalid, as Barr seemed to suggest. Rather, under Georgia e******n law, if the “evidence established that there are more illegal or irregular v**es than the margin of victory, the remedy is a new e******n.”
In other words, for Georgia’s results to be undone, Trump only needed to establish there were 11,780 illegal v**es; he did not need to identify the illegally cast b****ts and establish they represented v**es for Biden in sufficient numbers to render him the winner.
That’s why, in his widely misrepresented telephone call with the Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffenperger, Trump said, “All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 v**es.” Trump’s legal team had found the v**es, but the Georgia courts refused to timely consider Trump’s challenges.
Why Unconstitutional V****g Was Allowed
Likewise, many of the issues Trump’s legal team raised after the general e******n and before the results were certified, remained unanswered until a year or more later, when state courts declared the procedures used in November 2020 illegal or unconstitutional.
Nothing Barr did or could have done could have altered the reality that there is insufficient time between the November e******n and the certification of the v**e for states to do much more than a recount and audit, and the Department of Justice to conduct a high-level investigation of what would need to be widespread and obvious fraud to be caught in time to change the outcome of an e******n.
Yet evidence accumulated since Biden was certified the winner of the 2020 e******n makes clear that in every swing state, systemic violations of the e******n code occurred. While moving to the widespread use of mail-in v****g in the name of C****-** exacerbated the problems, post-e******n scrutiny of the last general e******n reveals that every defect in our e*******l system identified in 2005 by the bipartisan Commission on E******n Reform, co-chaired by Democrat Jimmy Carter and Republican Jim Baker, remains a problem today.
At the time, Carter and Baker warned in the commission’s 100-plus page report that “e******ns are the heart of democracy” and “if e******ns are defective, the entire democratic system is at risk.” The commission added as a corollary to that first principle that “confidence in e******ns matters equally, and in fact “is central to our nation’s democracy.”
So, when the J*** 6 C*******e show trial finally ends, Americans need to remember e******n integrity is not about Trump or Barr, nor Democrats or Republicans: It is about our country and her future. That future depends on a serious revamping of the American e*******l system—and soon.
Why Both Republicans And Democrats Are Wrong About Bill Barr
BY: MARGOT CLEVELAND
JUNE 20, 2022
11 MIN READ
That U.S. prosecutors didn’t find b****t-stuffing in Detroit and Atlanta says nothing about whether there were systemic violations of e******n law and illegal v****g in 2020.
Last week, the J*** 6“Committee” featured video clips from former U.S. Attorney General Bill Barr during its hearing on the violence that erupted at the capitol on J*** 6, 2021. For the few Americans following the show trial, Barr’s testimony seemed a denial by former President Donald Trump’s top law enforcement officer of any legitimate basis to challenge the outcome of the November 2020 e******n.
To Democrats, this proved Trump sought to steal the White House from Biden via a c**p. To Republicans, Barr revealed himself as a t*****r uninterested in investigating v***r f***d. Neither view is correct.
In his deposition, Barr testified about his disagreements with the then-president about claims of e******n f***d. Barr resigned as attorney general on December 14, 2020, in the aftermath of the November general e******n as Trump continued to dispute the outcome. The day he resigned, Barr explained, when he walked in to speak with the president,
[Trump] went off on a monologue saying that there was now definitive evidence involving fraud through the D******n machines and a report had been prepared by a very reputable cybersecurity firm, which he identified as Allied Security Operations Group. And he held up the report and he had — and then he asked that a copy of it be made for me. And while a copy was being made, he said, you know, ‘This is absolute proof that the D******n machines were r****d.’
Barr testified to the committee that he had told the president “they’ve wasted a whole month on these claims — on the D******n v****g machines and they were i***tic claims.” There was “absolutely zero basis for the allegations,” Barr explained, yet people believed there was “this systemic corruption in the system and that their v**es didn’t count and that these machines controlled by somebody else were actually determining it, which was complete nonsense.”
Then-President Trump also raised what he called “the big v**e dump” in Detroit, Barr explained, where “people saw boxes coming into the counting station at all hours of the morning and so forth.” Barr told the committee that he had explained to Trump that there were approximately 630 precincts in Detroit, “and unlike elsewhere in the state, they centralize the counting process. So they’re not counted in each precinct, they’re moved to counting stations. And so a normal process would involve boxes coming in at all different hours.” Barr said point blank, “There’s no indication of fraud in Detroit.”
The committee also heard testimony that Barr had directed B.J. Pak, the then-U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Georgia, to investigate a security tape from the State Farm Arena in Atlanta that Trump believed showed a suitcase of illegal b****ts secreted beneath a table being pulled out after e******n workers had been sent home for the night. Pak explained they investigated the claims and that the longer segment on the video established the alleged black suitcase was actually an official lockbox where b****ts were kept safe.
The bottom line, according to Barr’s testimony, was that he “had not seen any widespread e******n f***d that would question the outcome of the e******n,” and that “the stuff” Trump’s people “were shoveling out to the public were bullsh-t. . . the claims of fraud were bullsh-t.”
Detroit and Atlanta Weren’t the Only Concerns
Claims of e******n f***d, however, represented but a portion of Trump’s challenges to the November 2020 results. Also, that the above claims were “bullsh-t” says nothing about whether there were systemic violations of e******n law and illegal v****g. Nor were those questions ones for the attorney general or the U.S. attorneys investigating allegations of fraud.
Barr made this point in his testimony when he explained that he had told Trump “the department doesn’t take sides in e******ns, and the department is not an extension of — of [Trump’s] legal team. And our role is to investigate fraud.” Barr’s testimony also made clear that the U.S. Department of Justice investigated claims of fraud, such as the supposed “suitcase” of b****ts in Atlanta.
But what Barr didn’t investigate—and indeed shouldn’t have investigated—were the many violations of state e******n law highlighted by Trump’s legal team in their lawsuits challenging the e******n results. For instance, in Georgia, the state e******n code requires residents to “v**e in the county in which they reside, unless they changed their residence within 30 days of the e******n” and “outside of the 30-day grace period, if people v**e in a county in which they no longer reside, ‘their v**e in that county would be illegal.’”
Trump’s legal team obtained solid evidence that as many as 30,000 Georgia residents v**ed illegally in their prior county in 2020. Trump never had his day in court on this challenge, though, which theoretically could have resulted in Georgia’s e******n results tossed.
That’s not the business of the attorney general, however, so those Republicans seeing Barr as derelict misunderstand his role. Likewise, those Democrats championing Barr’s words, believing it establishes a c**p attempt by Trump, ignore that his testimony focused solely on e******n f***d.
Dust-Up About Alleged V**e Trafficking
The former attorney general’s testimony concerning v**e harvesting perfectly illustrates the misplaced role both the right and the left sought to ascribe to Barr. During last week’s J*** 6 C*******e hearing, Barr testified it was his “opinion then” and his “opinion now” “that the e******n was not stolen by fraud.” He added that he hadn’t seen anything since the e******n that changed his “mind on that, including the ‘2,000 Mules’movie.”
The “2,000 Mules” movie, produced by Dinesh D’Souza, “includes information about an investigation by e******n integrity group True The V**e and features its founder Catherine Engelbrecht and its e******n intelligence analyst Gregg Phillips.” D’Souza’s film explains True The V**e’s use of “GPS surveillance geolocation data emitted by cellphones to help identify phones in key battleground states that made numerous trips to multiple e******n drop boxes and, in Georgia, to non-profits which the film does not identify.” The movie also includes videos “of persons placing multiple b****ts into drop boxes—which is illegal in some states, including Georgia, unless those b****ts are for family members.”
Barr told the committee that both he and the Georgia Bureau of Investigations were unimpressed with the use of cellphone geolocation data because, “if you take 2 million cell phones and — and figure out where they are physically in a big city like Atlanta or wherever, just by definition you’re going to find many hundreds of them have passed by and spent time in the vicinity of these boxes.”
The former attorney general added, though, that he held “his fire” on “the photographic evidence…because I thought, well, h-ll, if they have a lot of photographs of the same person dumping a lot of b****ts in different boxes, you know, that’s hard to explain.” There “was a little bit of” photographic evidence from “2,000 Mules,” Barr said, but he found “it was lacking,” and that it “didn’t establish widespread illegal harvesting.”
In response to Barr’s deposition testimony, the “2,000 Mules” producer took to Twitter, challenging the former attorney general to a public debate. “What do you say, Barr?” D’Souza tweeted. “Do you dare back up your belly laughs with arguments that can withstand rebuttal and cross-examination?” D’Souza added in comments to The Epoch Times, “The hearings are one-sided propaganda, not an attempt to get to the t***h.” The producer then invited people to view the evidence in “2,000 Mules” and judge for themselves.
V**e Trafficking Isn’t the AG’s Purview
Some Republicans saw Barr’s dig at D’Souza’s movie as proof the former attorney general was “totally disinterested” in e******n f***d, while Democrats framed Barr’s comments as establishing Trump’s attempt at a c**p. Ignored by both sides, however, was what Barr said next:
The other thing is people don’t understand is that it’s not clear that even if you can show harvesting that that changes the — or the results of the e******n. The courts are not going to throw out v**es and then figure out what v**es were harvested and throw them out. You’d still — the burden on the challenging party to show that illegal v**es were cast, v**es were the result of undue influence or bribes or there was really, you know, the person was non compos mentis. But absent that evidence, I just didn’t see courts throwing out v**es anyway.
With these few sentences Barr capsulized the disconnect between what many Trump v**ers believed the attorney general and federal prosecutors’ roles to be following the November 2020 e******n, and the reality that the Department of Justice’s focus rests on provable federal crimes. Barr tasked federal prosecutors with investigating allegations of widespread fraud, such as the manipulation of the D******n v****g machines and the supposed secreted suitcases of hidden b****ts. U.S. attorney offices found the charges unfounded. And while b****t harvesting may be illegal under some states’ e******n codes, for the Department of Justice to get involved, more than that would be needed.
But even then, as Barr noted, that doesn’t undo the e******n, or rendered Georgia, Michigan, or Pennsylvania’s results void. Rather, courts hear and decide e******n challenges, and such challenges extend far beyond issues of e******n f***d. Therein is the reason Democrats’ parading of Barr’s testimony is also misplaced.
While Barr could testify concerning the cases of v***r f***d the Department of Justice investigated, in the aftermath of the November 2020 e******n the former attorney general did not scrutinize, nor should he have, violations of state e******n law or potential violations of the Equal Protection Clause caused by the states’ disparate standards applied during the e******n.
Evidence of Widespread Illegal V**es
And Trump’s legal team had solid evidence of systemic violations of the e******n code and the widespread counting of illegal v**es, as well as potential Equal Protection violations. Further, in the case of Georgia, there were enough illegal v**es cast to likely render the state’s e******n results void.
Attorney General Barr, however, lacked both the authority (and the tools) to render judgment on matters of state e******n law. His deposition testimony to the committee also suggests that matters of e******n law remain outside his wheelhouse, as a court need not identify the b****ts illegally harvested or cast to rule the e******n results invalid, as Barr seemed to suggest. Rather, under Georgia e******n law, if the “evidence established that there are more illegal or irregular v**es than the margin of victory, the remedy is a new e******n.”
In other words, for Georgia’s results to be undone, Trump only needed to establish there were 11,780 illegal v**es; he did not need to identify the illegally cast b****ts and establish they represented v**es for Biden in sufficient numbers to render him the winner.
That’s why, in his widely misrepresented telephone call with the Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffenperger, Trump said, “All I want to do is this: I just want to find 11,780 v**es.” Trump’s legal team had found the v**es, but the Georgia courts refused to timely consider Trump’s challenges.
Why Unconstitutional V****g Was Allowed
Likewise, many of the issues Trump’s legal team raised after the general e******n and before the results were certified, remained unanswered until a year or more later, when state courts declared the procedures used in November 2020 illegal or unconstitutional.
Nothing Barr did or could have done could have altered the reality that there is insufficient time between the November e******n and the certification of the v**e for states to do much more than a recount and audit, and the Department of Justice to conduct a high-level investigation of what would need to be widespread and obvious fraud to be caught in time to change the outcome of an e******n.
Yet evidence accumulated since Biden was certified the winner of the 2020 e******n makes clear that in every swing state, systemic violations of the e******n code occurred. While moving to the widespread use of mail-in v****g in the name of C****-** exacerbated the problems, post-e******n scrutiny of the last general e******n reveals that every defect in our e*******l system identified in 2005 by the bipartisan Commission on E******n Reform, co-chaired by Democrat Jimmy Carter and Republican Jim Baker, remains a problem today.
At the time, Carter and Baker warned in the commission’s 100-plus page report that “e******ns are the heart of democracy” and “if e******ns are defective, the entire democratic system is at risk.” The commission added as a corollary to that first principle that “confidence in e******ns matters equally, and in fact “is central to our nation’s democracy.”
So, when the J*** 6 C*******e show trial finally ends, Americans need to remember e******n integrity is not about Trump or Barr, nor Democrats or Republicans: It is about our country and her future. That future depends on a serious revamping of the American e*******l system—and soon.
Jun 20, 2022 11:22:54 #
The Feddreralist us a right wing publication. Most of the accusations in this article have been debunked, espically irking to me is illegal v**ers. Please get over it. Barr would have been overjoyed if he found v***r f***d. Trump lost the popular v**e by nine million v**es. Get over it.
Jun 20, 2022 11:24:52 #
Jun 20, 2022 11:30:00 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
dtucker300 wrote:
You haven't even read the article yet, so STFU.
She just proved what an imbecile she truly is. Once again. Barr pretty much agreed with her.
Jun 20, 2022 11:48:15 #
pegw wrote:
The Feddreralist us a right wing publication. Most of the accusations in this article have been debunked, espically irking to me is illegal v**ers. Please get over it. Barr would have been overjoyed if he found v***r f***d. Trump lost the popular v**e by nine million v**es. Get over it.
Damn, it was just posted, and a long read. Shut up already. You didn't read it.
I will now that I've put you in your place. Now, carry your happy ass in the kitchen, and make me a sammich while I read this!
Jun 20, 2022 11:49:17 #
microphor
Loc: Home is TN
pegw wrote:
The Feddreralist us a right wing publication. Most of the accusations in this article have been debunked, espically irking to me is illegal v**ers. Please get over it. Barr would have been overjoyed if he found v***r f***d. Trump lost the popular v**e by nine million v**es. Get over it.
I don't think you even read the article
Jun 20, 2022 11:54:39 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
JFlorio wrote:
She just proved what an imbecile she truly is. Once again. Barr pretty much agreed with her.
She has a knee-jerk closed mind.
Jun 20, 2022 11:56:24 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
dtucker300 wrote:
She has a knee-jerk closed mind.
Progressive trait. they are definitely not critical thinkers.
Jun 20, 2022 12:01:45 #
dtucker300
Loc: Vista, CA
JFlorio wrote:
Progressive trait. they are definitely not critical thinkers.
But they always want to be the first to criticize.
Jun 20, 2022 12:16:27 #
microphor
Loc: Home is TN
dtucker300 wrote:
But they always want to be the first to criticize.
so true
Jun 20, 2022 15:07:39 #
LogicallyRight
Loc: Chicago
While I agree that the processes and laws that we have keep us from overturning the e******n, that doesn't mean that there wasn't massive fraud. While the fraud was never determined in a court of law, and that bull s**t 1*6 c*******e will never have the integrity to even look it, it was also never determined as fact that it was a f**r e******n. And since it was never determined with any real level of authenticity, either fraud or fair, President Trump can't be faulted for trying everything he can think of to right that flawed e******n.
Even if the fraud could now be proven, there is no mechanism for removing biden and installing Trump. About the only way it could be done would be for Harris to resign, Pelosi to resign, Trump be made Speaker of the House and then biden resigning. Does anyone believe there is enough integrity in biden, harris and pelosi for that to happen?
In the interval, every article printed about that e******n and President Trump's actions always refers to Trump's "False" claims and lies and illegal c**p. And none of that is true if the fraud existed. And it did. And that is an indisputable fact, in reality, but a battle that will never result in surrender by either side. One side is taking advantage of the Fraud, even if they didn't directly partake in it, and the other side is seeing all the good they accomplished being destroyed by the other side who was able to take advantage of that obvious Fraud.
So, Barr is mostly right and I would love to watch the debate between the 2000 Mules creators and Barr as they explain things to him. Obviously he doesn't understand the accuracy and integrity of that investigation that resulted in the absolute proof of Fraud.
Logically Right
Even if the fraud could now be proven, there is no mechanism for removing biden and installing Trump. About the only way it could be done would be for Harris to resign, Pelosi to resign, Trump be made Speaker of the House and then biden resigning. Does anyone believe there is enough integrity in biden, harris and pelosi for that to happen?
In the interval, every article printed about that e******n and President Trump's actions always refers to Trump's "False" claims and lies and illegal c**p. And none of that is true if the fraud existed. And it did. And that is an indisputable fact, in reality, but a battle that will never result in surrender by either side. One side is taking advantage of the Fraud, even if they didn't directly partake in it, and the other side is seeing all the good they accomplished being destroyed by the other side who was able to take advantage of that obvious Fraud.
So, Barr is mostly right and I would love to watch the debate between the 2000 Mules creators and Barr as they explain things to him. Obviously he doesn't understand the accuracy and integrity of that investigation that resulted in the absolute proof of Fraud.
Logically Right
Jun 21, 2022 09:49:03 #
pegw wrote:
The Feddreralist us a right wing publication. Most of the accusations in this article have been debunked, espically irking to me is illegal v**ers. Please get over it. Barr would have been overjoyed if he found v***r f***d. Trump lost the popular v**e by nine million v**es. Get over it.
There are many many illegal v**ers! California full of them , and yes the dmv is helping promote it by issuing license with v***r r**********ns and no ID!!!! It is a fact
Jun 21, 2022 09:50:06 #
Jun 21, 2022 10:14:34 #
microphor
Loc: Home is TN
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
There are many many illegal v**ers! California full of them , and yes the dmv is helping promote it by issuing license with v***r r**********ns and no ID!!!! It is a fact
You can drive-in to certain CA DMV parking lots and see ID sold in the parking lot. How do I know, I live here I've seen it for myself and I for myself.
Jun 21, 2022 10:36:02 #
JFlorio
Loc: Seminole Florida
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
There are many many illegal v**ers! California full of them , and yes the dmv is helping promote it by issuing license with v***r r**********ns and no ID!!!! It is a fact
Yes the only difference between a citizen and non-citizen drivers license in California is the non-citizens says Federal Limits Apply. The polling places, especially in Democrat areas seem to ignore this. Until we have v**er I.D., in person or absentee b****ts, with strict verification we will never have confidence in the results of our v**es again. For some reason Democrats are against almost all proof of legal v****g status.Wonder why?
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