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Jun 16, 2022 22:11:56   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
CarryOn wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vpP-B5JaM4

Biden: "I guarantee you ... we will end f****l f**ls ... "

He also said in the debate with Trump that he would "t***sition from f****l f**ls to renewable energy"

So, yes, that is his goal. If he "ends" f****l f**ls, then that means no more gas, no? As far as when, slojo seems to think he can manage it during his first and only term, since he promised that young girl he would do it. Not gonna happen, but slojo isn't going to let that keep him from trying--damn the economy and the people.

As far as the Bolt, I don't know much about it other than it appears to be quite small. If you are a family of midgets and don't need any more cargo space than enough for a six pack of beer or a back pack, it might work for you. Just sayin' ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vpP-B5JaM4 br br... (show quote)

Chevrolet Bolt; a $35,000 golf cart with doors.

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Jun 16, 2022 22:14:46   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
proud republican wrote:
Is there student loan forgiveness in Constitution??... I think not..🙄


Education should be provided by the government. As it always has been up until our Greed disorder showed up in 1980.
The government provided land for colleges
That were tuition free.
Public schools, pre k.
The republicans believe you should pay for everything.
So , then , whats the big deal for living here now?
If you can’t afford it , forget about it.
How many have been brainwashed in the “for profit” colleges?
Why should anyone coming out of college be classified as an Authoritarian?
I don’t get it.

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Jun 16, 2022 22:15:20   #
CarryOn
 
JR-57 wrote:
Chevrolet Bolt; a $35,000 golf cart with doors.


Yup. Kinda what it looked like. Maybe a tad bigger than one of those stupid "smart cars" somebody came up with years ago. Death Trap was a more appropriate name for it.

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Jun 17, 2022 05:35:38   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Ferrous wrote:
On a factual note, I'm going to have to apologize when I claimed that "Education" is not included in our Constitution.

I wrote a ponderous reply on it not being in, and had to delete it during my resource gathering.

In the original Draft of our Constitution, our Founding Fathers did not include Education as one of our Rights. They wanted the indidvidual States and Local Communities to decide their school curriculum.

The 14th Amendment provided the Equal Protection Clause and the SCOUTUS decision on the 1954 Brown v. Board of Education case, injected "Injected Education into our Constitution."

(quote)The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment provides that a state may not “deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” It applies to public elementary and secondary schools, as they are considered to be state actors. In 1954, the Supreme Court interpreted the Equal Protection Clause’s requirements in Brown v. Board of Education. In perhaps one of the most famous and important cases issued by the Court, it stated:[/b]

https://www.concordlawschool.edu/blog/constitutional-law/14th-amendment-protects-rights-education/#:~:text=The%20law%20requires%20public%20schools,are%20caused%20by%20their%20disability.

Just like "a******ns" was added to it and more Amendments like Free Money, Free Medical, Free Housing, and Free TLC, Open Immigration can be added to our Constitution.

Ammendments can work both Ways for whomever controls Congress and the SCOTUS. Right now, the 3 younger aged picks of Trumps would mean that it would take the Democrats over 20 to 30 years to get back a majority v**e.

Can they wait that long?
On a factual note, I'm going to have to apologize ... (show quote)


I want to correct your view that SCOTUS injected education into the Constitution via Brown v Board of Education. What the ruling stated was any government program must apply e******y to all. Meaning of government offered education to the public, it had to be available to all of the public. You can take advantage of public education or you can opt for private education at your own expense. The new argument is that if you opt for private education, the government pet student payment would follow the student.

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Jun 17, 2022 06:09:35   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Kickaha wrote:
I want to correct your view that SCOTUS injected education into the Constitution via Brown v Board of Education. What the ruling stated was any government program must apply e******y to all. Meaning of government offered education to the public, it had to be available to all of the public. You can take advantage of public education or you can opt for private education at your own expense. The new argument is that if you opt for private education, the government pet student payment would follow the student.
I want to correct your view that SCOTUS injected e... (show quote)


That was the 14th Amendment not Brown vs Board of Education.

"In 1896, the Supreme Court ruled in Plessy v. Ferguson that racially segregated public facilities were legal, so long as the facilities for Black people and w****s were equal."

in 1954, "In the decision, issued on May 17, 1954, Warren wrote that “in the field of public education the doctrine of ‘separate but equal’ has no place,” as segregated schools are “inherently unequal.” As a result, the Court ruled that the plaintiffs were being “deprived of the equal protection of the laws guaranteed by the 14th Amendment.”

The Brown vs Board of Education of Topeka (the Office of Education wouldn't be established until Carter 1979) covered (injected) Education into our Constitution for the first time with their ruling of "Equal Protection of laws guaranteed by the 14th Amendment".

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Jun 17, 2022 06:55:48   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Ferrous wrote:
That was the 14th Amendment not Brown vs Board of Education.

"In 1896, the Supreme Court ruled in Plessy v. Ferguson that racially segregated public facilities were legal, so long as the facilities for Black people and w****s were equal."

in 1954, "In the decision, issued on May 17, 1954, Warren wrote that “in the field of public education the doctrine of ‘separate but equal’ has no place,” as segregated schools are “inherently unequal.” As a result, the Court ruled that the plaintiffs were being “deprived of the equal protection of the laws guaranteed by the 14th Amendment.”

The Brown vs Board of Education of Topeka (the Office of Education wouldn't be established until Carter 1979) covered (injected) Education into our Constitution for the first time with their ruling of "Equal Protection of laws guaranteed by the 14th Amendment".
That was the 14th Amendment not Brown vs Board of ... (show quote)


Again, the Brown v Board of Education overturned the Plessy v Ferguson precedent. It did not inject education into the Constitution. It did say the 14th amendment applied equally in all aspects of government operations and programs. If a state decided that it would no longer sponsor schools, it would be within the state's rights under the 10th amendment. No state would do this as it is inherently obvious that an educated population is in the best interests of the state.

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Jun 17, 2022 10:10:20   #
elledee
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Isn’t that a tad extreme. Car Loans are not noted in the Constitution but
Education is.


Stupidity is not in the constitution yet your here

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Jun 17, 2022 10:52:28   #
CarryOn
 
Ferrous wrote:
Isn't Nationalizing the F****l F**l Industry one of a Totaltarian Government's plans to Save the Planet?

https://prospect.org/environment/nationalize-us-fossil-fuel-industry-to-save-the-planet/

I suggest that everyone read up on Agenda 21, where it all started. The United Nations and their "Sustanibility Program" will take over all of these CO2 emitting industries and govern our daily lives...

https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/outcomedocuments/agenda21

1992... Bush Sr signed aboard
1993... Clinton Implemented it with his Ex Order for it.

2001... GW Bush did not sign on to the Kyoto Protocol

Here's Obama in 2015 giving away the Farm to The UN...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tJNxGvgOaE

And now we have Ole Joe telling us that Gas prices are made to hurt in getting us away from F****l F**ls and Saving the Planet.

Agenda 21 is the New World Order
Isn't Nationalizing the F****l F**l Industry one o... (show quote)


Wow! That article is really scary! Makes it very clear that the gas price hikes are intentional and purposeful ... part of a grand plan by the U.N. g*******ts ... and slojo is all in.

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Jun 17, 2022 10:56:02   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
CarryOn wrote:
Wow! That article is really scary! Makes it very clear that the gas price hikes are intentional and purposeful ... part of a grand plan by the U.N. g*******ts ... and slojo is all in.

Biden and his two bit cast of characters are very low on the food chain when it comes to who’s really setting and manipulating the agenda. Biden et Al are nothing more than useful tools to those truly in control.

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Jun 17, 2022 11:28:18   #
CarryOn
 
JR-57 wrote:
Biden and his two bit cast of characters are very low on the food chain when it comes to who’s really setting and manipulating the agenda. Biden et Al are nothing more than useful tools to those truly in control.


Totally agree with you he's not in charge. But he is playing his role and he has to be all in on the deal .. at least what he can understand and repeat ...

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Jun 17, 2022 11:38:33   #
Fab
 
Ferrous wrote:
I see in my liberal city, that they are... No more single residencies or even 2 story apartment buildings, but massive 5 & 6 story bee hives for affordable housing...

These monster tenement buildings will hold hundreds of apartments in lots that would support 20 to 40 units.

It's called subsidized housing and/or. Section 8


College is elective for a student. If a person chooses to go to college that’s their decision and agree to the cost involved just like buying a car, house, or credit card, etc. Them if and when they graduate and get a job they are supposed to pay off the LOAN just like a car, house, etc. In most cases they don’t. Why should loans be forgiven to students when it was their choice to attend college???? What about the students that go to college to have fun? Do you want to pay for them as well????

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Jun 17, 2022 11:59:45   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Fab wrote:
College is elective for a student. If a person chooses to go to college that’s their decision and agree to the cost involved just like buying a car, house, or credit card, etc. Them if and when they graduate and get a job they are supposed to pay off the LOAN just like a car, house, etc. In most cases they don’t. Why should loans be forgiven to students when it was their choice to attend college???? What about the students that go to college to have fun? Do you want to pay for them as well????


Where is the pay back for those who either paid off their student loans or paid for their college as they went without taking out loans?

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Jun 17, 2022 12:04:16   #
Fab
 
Kickaha wrote:
Where is the pay back for those who either paid off their student loans or paid for their college as they went without taking out loans?


Your reward is your education and proving to yourself the wonderful feeling of success!!!

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Jun 17, 2022 12:14:38   #
Kickaha Loc: Nebraska
 
Fab wrote:
Your reward is your education and proving to yourself the wonderful feeling of success!!!


Then that would also apply to those who still owe on their student loans and they should repay them as it is the only way to be fair to those who already paid for their education.

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Jun 17, 2022 12:45:55   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Kickaha wrote:
Again, the Brown v Board of Education overturned the Plessy v Ferguson precedent. It did not inject education into the Constitution. It did say the 14th amendment applied equally in all aspects of government operations and programs. If a state decided that it would no longer sponsor schools, it would be within the state's rights under the 10th amendment. No state would do this as it is inherently obvious that an educated population is in the best interests of the state.


I stand corrected... I was right in my first response that Education is not a Fundamental Right under the US Constitution.

(quote) There is not a single mention of education in the U.S. Constitution. The establishment of education is one of the powers reserved to the states under the Tenth Amendment. Education is not a constitutionally protected right. (end quote)

https://kansaspolicy.org/education-is-still-for-now-not-a-fundamental-right-under-the-u-s-constitution/

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