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Jun 7, 2022 00:10:00   #
PeterS
 
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no amount of national carnage could ever convince you to give up your semi-automatic guns? I mean we have children who are k**led, adults who are k**led, and teenagers k**led yet the only impact it makes on cons is that it's the Democrats who are at fault because they are stopping us [cons] from having more guns because it's only if we have more guns everything would be A-okay!

What's been lost on you cons is that we've been buying more guns, and buying more guns, to the point we are the most heavily armed "civilized" country in the world yet the violence hasn't subsided. Look at Texas, there is no question that all the conservatives have guns plus most of those in the middle and I'm making a safe assumption that 99% of them are packing yet, with the exception of stopping one church shooting, they have been totally ineffective in stopping the growing numbers of mass shootings in this once great state? Since Texas is such a heavily conservative state and they are so heavily armed why hasn't it caused mass shootings to go down instead of up? Shouldn't Texas be a great test for conservative theories on more guns are better and even better are more guns than those!

Now, as a liberal Democrat, I naturally think that we should disarm, not continue to arm ourselves. When we look at other countries it's clear that disarming works but I have come to realize the fact that cons have been successful in flooding this nation with so many semi-autos that it would be impossible to try to disarm ourselves now. So now, I'm at a loss for a solution. As Texas has shown, more guns simply meant more violence, so should we simply surrender ourselves to the violence that is to come? Is that the only choice we have? It seems like it is because conservatives have been so successful in getting their way...

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Jun 7, 2022 01:21:41   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
Do you know how stupid that sounds?

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Jun 7, 2022 02:02:29   #
One Patriot
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Do you know how stupid that sounds?


The worst part about this is he actually believes that B.S.

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Jun 7, 2022 02:34:39   #
teabag09
 
One Patriot wrote:
The worst part about this is he actually believes that B.S.


The thing to do is to follow the laws which isn't happening under dem pols and put law breakers in jail for a very long time. It turns out that in most cases the problem with people who commit these crimes show trendies are ignored because it's not fair by dems. It's your side who is to blame, not cons. AH. Mike

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Jun 7, 2022 02:53:32   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no amount of national carnage could ever convince you to give up your semi-automatic guns? I mean we have children who are k**led, adults who are k**led, and teenagers k**led yet the only impact it makes on cons is that it's the Democrats who are at fault because they are stopping us [cons] from having more guns because it's only if we have more guns everything would be A-okay!

What's been lost on you cons is that we've been buying more guns, and buying more guns, to the point we are the most heavily armed "civilized" country in the world yet the violence hasn't subsided. Look at Texas, there is no question that all the conservatives have guns plus most of those in the middle and I'm making a safe assumption that 99% of them are packing yet, with the exception of stopping one church shooting, they have been totally ineffective in stopping the growing numbers of mass shootings in this once great state? Since Texas is such a heavily conservative state and they are so heavily armed why hasn't it caused mass shootings to go down instead of up? Shouldn't Texas be a great test for conservative theories on more guns are better and even better are more guns than those!

Now, as a liberal Democrat, I naturally think that we should disarm, not continue to arm ourselves. When we look at other countries it's clear that disarming works but I have come to realize the fact that cons have been successful in flooding this nation with so many semi-autos that it would be impossible to try to disarm ourselves now. So now, I'm at a loss for a solution. As Texas has shown, more guns simply meant more violence, so should we simply surrender ourselves to the violence that is to come? Is that the only choice we have? It seems like it is because conservatives have been so successful in getting their way...
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no a... (show quote)
Nothing like exaggerating your fears with a couple tons of hyperbole, right, Peter?

Seriously, do you actually believe that semi-auto firearms are causing a "national carnage"?
You make it sound like everybody and their brother who owns a semi-auto firearm is out there gunning down everything that moves.

Crime, drug abuse, broken families, r****t violence, psychosis, you name it, are all symptoms of a diseased society.
You wanna heal a sick society, you must focus on the cause, not the effects.

Do you have any idea how many people have been k**led in mass shootings.
Since 1982, the number is 1363. This accounts for all public mass shootings, including schools, in which 5 or more people were k**led. It does not account for the high percentage of mass k*****gs resulting from family squabbles or those in which people were only wounded and none k**led.

Fact is the number of times firearms of all kinds have been used in self defense far exceeds the number of times one has been used in commission of a crime. GDU research studies have confirmed this.

Based on research by University and Independent criminologists (CPRC for example),
and the research methods used, the number of times per year in which an armed citizen stopped an attack or prevented a crime is between 500,000 and 2.5 million. Even CDC found no reason to question these studies.

Gun related deaths in US are around 40,000 per year and climbing.
54% are suicides, 43% are homicides, and 3% are accidental.
43% of 40,000 is 17,200 murders.

At 52 homicides per 100,000 people, El Salvador has the highest murder rate in the world,
followed closely by Honduras and Venezuela.

At 5.3 homicides per 100,000 people, the United States murder rate is lower than 75 other countries.



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This 10 year old girl is shooting in a national competition for her age group. You want to train them properly, train them when they are young.
This 10 year old girl is shooting in a national co...

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Jun 7, 2022 05:15:25   #
One Patriot
 
teabag09 wrote:
The thing to do is to follow the laws which isn't happening under dem pols and put law breakers in jail for a very long time. It turns out that in most cases the problem with people who commit these crimes show trendies are ignored because it's not fair by dems. It's your side who is to blame, not cons. AH. Mike


Mike, you lost me. I think you meant your comment for somebody else.

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Jun 7, 2022 06:21:53   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
PeterS wrote:
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no amount of national carnage could ever convince you to give up your semi-automatic guns? I mean we have children who are k**led, adults who are k**led, and teenagers k**led yet the only impact it makes on cons is that it's the Democrats who are at fault because they are stopping us [cons] from having more guns because it's only if we have more guns everything would be A-okay!

What's been lost on you cons is that we've been buying more guns, and buying more guns, to the point we are the most heavily armed "civilized" country in the world yet the violence hasn't subsided. Look at Texas, there is no question that all the conservatives have guns plus most of those in the middle and I'm making a safe assumption that 99% of them are packing yet, with the exception of stopping one church shooting, they have been totally ineffective in stopping the growing numbers of mass shootings in this once great state? Since Texas is such a heavily conservative state and they are so heavily armed why hasn't it caused mass shootings to go down instead of up? Shouldn't Texas be a great test for conservative theories on more guns are better and even better are more guns than those!

Now, as a liberal Democrat, I naturally think that we should disarm, not continue to arm ourselves. When we look at other countries it's clear that disarming works but I have come to realize the fact that cons have been successful in flooding this nation with so many semi-autos that it would be impossible to try to disarm ourselves now. So now, I'm at a loss for a solution. As Texas has shown, more guns simply meant more violence, so should we simply surrender ourselves to the violence that is to come? Is that the only choice we have? It seems like it is because conservatives have been so successful in getting their way...
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no a... (show quote)

Harsher penalties, eliminate gun free zones, harden the schools, and most importantly; parents need to stop neglecting their responsibility and start raising their children properly.



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Jun 7, 2022 06:30:20   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
PeterS wrote:
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no amount of national carnage could ever convince you to give up your semi-automatic guns? I mean we have children who are k**led, adults who are k**led, and teenagers k**led yet the only impact it makes on cons is that it's the Democrats who are at fault because they are stopping us [cons] from having more guns because it's only if we have more guns everything would be A-okay!

What's been lost on you cons is that we've been buying more guns, and buying more guns, to the point we are the most heavily armed "civilized" country in the world yet the violence hasn't subsided. Look at Texas, there is no question that all the conservatives have guns plus most of those in the middle and I'm making a safe assumption that 99% of them are packing yet, with the exception of stopping one church shooting, they have been totally ineffective in stopping the growing numbers of mass shootings in this once great state? Since Texas is such a heavily conservative state and they are so heavily armed why hasn't it caused mass shootings to go down instead of up? Shouldn't Texas be a great test for conservative theories on more guns are better and even better are more guns than those!

Now, as a liberal Democrat, I naturally think that we should disarm, not continue to arm ourselves. When we look at other countries it's clear that disarming works but I have come to realize the fact that cons have been successful in flooding this nation with so many semi-autos that it would be impossible to try to disarm ourselves now. So now, I'm at a loss for a solution. As Texas has shown, more guns simply meant more violence, so should we simply surrender ourselves to the violence that is to come? Is that the only choice we have? It seems like it is because conservatives have been so successful in getting their way...
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no a... (show quote)


I think you should disarm also. People like you have no business owning guns, unless it's to shoot yourself, in which case you should make certain you know from which end of the barrel the bullet exits. Twenty-eight years ago the Clintoon gun ban went into effect. In the next ten years, the murder rate, which had been going down anyway, went down at exactly the same rate and continued to decrease at the same rate until 2014, at which time it went up slightly. During this time the population of the US grew from 263 million to 318 million; an increase of 55 million people. During this time there were more than 100 million more guns purchased by private individuals. The murder rate decreased by 40%. Right now there are 25 states that no longer require a permit to carry a firearm. In the ones that do there have been more than 20 million permits issued. Those evil scary looking guns you want banned have been purchased by well over 20 million people. They are used in less than one percent of the murders in this country. I will not go into technical details, because even if you had the wit to understand them, you lack the inclination. Every year for the past ten years there have been more people k**led by knives, by clubs, and by bare hands, all three, than with those scary looking rifles you wish to ban. According to the FBI, most firearms used in crimes are stolen. You want a background check for the thief? Do you know how damn easy it is to beat a background check on a private sale? All you have to do is date a receipt prior to the date the law was enacted, not that it would do any good, since out of more than 100,000 stops on purchases per year for the past five years, less than one hundred per year have been prosecuted.
I know this is a difficult question, just like any question that requires you to think, but what makes you think that these school shooters need a semi auto firearm to k**l unarmed kids and teachers? When no one can shoot back you could use a single shot rifle or shotgun and get the same results. You have never served in the Armed Forces, you have no idea how real assault rifles function, I doubt you have ever even fired one. You don't know how to look up the actual facts and wouldn't understand them if you did.
Do continue to advertise your lack of knowledge. Unlike Liberals, Conservatives believe in freedom of speech, and see no harm in letting clueless people expose their ignorance.

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Jun 7, 2022 08:53:24   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
Do you know how stupid that sounds?


From which aspect ?

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Jun 7, 2022 09:54:35   #
American Vet
 
PeterS wrote:
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no amount of national carnage could ever convince you to give up your semi-automatic guns? .


Making a gun illegal will not stop a criminal from being unarmed; nor will it mean the criminal is not dangerous. Criminal do not obey the law.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, almost every major study on defensive gun use has found that Americans use their firearms defensively between 500,000 and 3 million times each year. There’s good reason to believe that most defensive gun uses are never reported to law enforcement, much less picked up by local or national media outlets.
https://datavisualizations.heritage.org/firearms/defensive-gun-uses-in-the-us/

Just plain old common sense.

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Jun 7, 2022 09:57:51   #
American Vet
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
I think you should disarm also. People like you have no business owning guns, unless it's to shoot yourself, in which case you should make certain you know from which end of the barrel the bullet exits. Twenty-eight years ago the Clintoon gun ban went into effect. In the next ten years, the murder rate, which had been going down anyway, went down at exactly the same rate and continued to decrease at the same rate until 2014, at which time it went up slightly. During this time the population of the US grew from 263 million to 318 million; an increase of 55 million people. During this time there were more than 100 million more guns purchased by private individuals. The murder rate decreased by 40%. Right now there are 25 states that no longer require a permit to carry a firearm. In the ones that do there have been more than 20 million permits issued. Those evil scary looking guns you want banned have been purchased by well over 20 million people. They are used in less than one percent of the murders in this country. I will not go into technical details, because even if you had the wit to understand them, you lack the inclination. Every year for the past ten years there have been more people k**led by knives, by clubs, and by bare hands, all three, than with those scary looking rifles you wish to ban. According to the FBI, most firearms used in crimes are stolen. You want a background check for the thief? Do you know how damn easy it is to beat a background check on a private sale? All you have to do is date a receipt prior to the date the law was enacted, not that it would do any good, since out of more than 100,000 stops on purchases per year for the past five years, less than one hundred per year have been prosecuted.
I know this is a difficult question, just like any question that requires you to think, but what makes you think that these school shooters need a semi auto firearm to k**l unarmed kids and teachers? When no one can shoot back you could use a single shot rifle or shotgun and get the same results. You have never served in the Armed Forces, you have no idea how real assault rifles function, I doubt you have ever even fired one. You don't know how to look up the actual facts and wouldn't understand them if you did.
Do continue to advertise your lack of knowledge. Unlike Liberals, Conservatives believe in freedom of speech, and see no harm in letting clueless people expose their ignorance.
I think you should disarm also. People like you ha... (show quote)


I know this is a difficult question, just like any question that requires you to think, but what makes you think that these school shooters need a semi auto firearm to k**l unarmed kids and teachers?

I know this is a difficult question: What makes you think because a gun is "illegal" it will prevent a person from obtaining one?

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Jun 8, 2022 07:42:14   #
Big dog
 
teabag09 wrote:
The thing to do is to follow the laws which isn't happening under dem pols and put law breakers in jail for a very long time. It turns out that in most cases the problem with people who commit these crimes show trendies are ignored because it's not fair by dems. It's your side who is to blame, not cons. AH. Mike


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Jun 8, 2022 07:44:14   #
Big dog
 
JR-57 wrote:
Harsher penalties, eliminate gun free zones, harden the schools, and most importantly; parents need to stop neglecting their responsibility and start raising their children properly.


That’s it in a nutshell .

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Jun 8, 2022 08:01:08   #
Dan the man
 
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
I think you should disarm also. People like you have no business owning guns, unless it's to shoot yourself, in which case you should make certain you know from which end of the barrel the bullet exits. Twenty-eight years ago the Clintoon gun ban went into effect. In the next ten years, the murder rate, which had been going down anyway, went down at exactly the same rate and continued to decrease at the same rate until 2014, at which time it went up slightly. During this time the population of the US grew from 263 million to 318 million; an increase of 55 million people. During this time there were more than 100 million more guns purchased by private individuals. The murder rate decreased by 40%. Right now there are 25 states that no longer require a permit to carry a firearm. In the ones that do there have been more than 20 million permits issued. Those evil scary looking guns you want banned have been purchased by well over 20 million people. They are used in less than one percent of the murders in this country. I will not go into technical details, because even if you had the wit to understand them, you lack the inclination. Every year for the past ten years there have been more people k**led by knives, by clubs, and by bare hands, all three, than with those scary looking rifles you wish to ban. According to the FBI, most firearms used in crimes are stolen. You want a background check for the thief? Do you know how damn easy it is to beat a background check on a private sale? All you have to do is date a receipt prior to the date the law was enacted, not that it would do any good, since out of more than 100,000 stops on purchases per year for the past five years, less than one hundred per year have been prosecuted.
I know this is a difficult question, just like any question that requires you to think, but what makes you think that these school shooters need a semi auto firearm to k**l unarmed kids and teachers? When no one can shoot back you could use a single shot rifle or shotgun and get the same results. You have never served in the Armed Forces, you have no idea how real assault rifles function, I doubt you have ever even fired one. You don't know how to look up the actual facts and wouldn't understand them if you did.
Do continue to advertise your lack of knowledge. Unlike Liberals, Conservatives believe in freedom of speech, and see no harm in letting clueless people expose their ignorance.
I think you should disarm also. People like you ha... (show quote)


Right on !!!

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Jun 8, 2022 08:15:41   #
agatemaggot Loc: waterloo iowa
 
PeterS wrote:
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no amount of national carnage could ever convince you to give up your semi-automatic guns? I mean we have children who are k**led, adults who are k**led, and teenagers k**led yet the only impact it makes on cons is that it's the Democrats who are at fault because they are stopping us [cons] from having more guns because it's only if we have more guns everything would be A-okay!

What's been lost on you cons is that we've been buying more guns, and buying more guns, to the point we are the most heavily armed "civilized" country in the world yet the violence hasn't subsided. Look at Texas, there is no question that all the conservatives have guns plus most of those in the middle and I'm making a safe assumption that 99% of them are packing yet, with the exception of stopping one church shooting, they have been totally ineffective in stopping the growing numbers of mass shootings in this once great state? Since Texas is such a heavily conservative state and they are so heavily armed why hasn't it caused mass shootings to go down instead of up? Shouldn't Texas be a great test for conservative theories on more guns are better and even better are more guns than those!

Now, as a liberal Democrat, I naturally think that we should disarm, not continue to arm ourselves. When we look at other countries it's clear that disarming works but I have come to realize the fact that cons have been successful in flooding this nation with so many semi-autos that it would be impossible to try to disarm ourselves now. So now, I'm at a loss for a solution. As Texas has shown, more guns simply meant more violence, so should we simply surrender ourselves to the violence that is to come? Is that the only choice we have? It seems like it is because conservatives have been so successful in getting their way...
that has you conservatives so t***sfixed that no a... (show quote)


There are over 1 million crimes prevented each year by firearms that are offically reported and who knows how many aren't ?

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