One Political Plaza - Home of politics
Home Active Topics Newest Pictures Search Login Register
Main
Guns culture in America
Page <prev 2 of 8 next> last>>
May 26, 2022 20:28:32   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
albertk wrote:
.

F**e

Reply
May 26, 2022 21:09:44   #
albertk
 
JR-57 wrote:
F**e


Satire



Reply
May 26, 2022 21:15:20   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
albertk wrote:
Satire

Got it. Please accept my apology. I missed that little detail on the meme.

Reply
 
 
May 26, 2022 22:37:54   #
albertk
 
JR-57 wrote:
Got it. Please accept my apology. I missed that little detail on the meme.


Honest mistake, no problem.

Reply
May 27, 2022 00:04:15   #
robertv3
 
Airforceone wrote:
(GUNS)
While the US has 5% of the global population it had 31% of all public mass k*****gs.
Just think about this and imagine in the United States people have a greater chance of dying in Mass shootings if you are at work school church or nightclubs.

The United States has 400 million guns in circulation with a population of 320 million people. The next closest country is India with 48 million guns with 1.25 million people.

But let’s just take one example Australia had only 4 mass k*****g between 1987 to 1996 and the Australian government had had enough with just 4 mass shootings. But after these incidents there parliament passed stricter gun laws and has not had a massive shooting since. Just common sense gun control it took them 2 months of working together to come up with common sense laws. The republicans in this country is do absolutely nothing and be careful of getting a low rating from the NRA in order to keep there jobs. There are many examples like this around the globe but the US will do nothing but blame democrats that there coming for your guns. That’s BS

Though 90% of the American people supports universal background checks the Us has a dangerous loophole that republicans support or refuse to address. They exempt unlicensed gun sellers from having to perform background checks and these guns easily find there way into the hands of illegal buyers and gun traffickers that sell these guns on the open market at high profits.

But OPP 2nd amendment supporters will post daily lies that background checks don’t work and there biggest lie is democrats are t trying to take your guns. Just listen to Fox News that’s all they report on that there coming for your guns. Well folks that’s a BS lie.

Also another loophole to make these OPP gun advocates that they ignore. Is gaps in our laws let’s people acquire a gun online without any background check this accounts for 45% of gun owners. That’s 160 million guns on our streets without a background check.

But when you read these OPP gun advocates that use conspiracy theories that states with strict gun laws have high gun violence. But these people ignore the states without background checks laws can export guns across states lines at a 60% higher rate than states requiring background checks. That’s amounts for high profits for illegal Gun sales. They love to point at Chicago but 70% of gun violence were from guns imported from states without gun laws.

Let’s look at 96% of inmates who were already prohibited from possessing a gun at the time of there offenses obtained there guns from unlicensed dealers that require no background checks.

This just shows a few examples that our loopholes has deadly consequences.

Contrary to OPP gun advocates rarely background checks rarely provide false results. The FBI quality control division evaluation suggest background checks are accurate because approximately 99.3% to 99.8% are accurate. But OPP conspiracy theorist along with Fox News will point at that .2% to justify doing nothing and then with the FBI report is nothing but the deep state theory as a lie. These people live by the word of Trump I believe Putin our FBI is the deep state theory.

But universal background checks with a national data base will minimize not gun violence in this country but just maybe eliminate kids being slaughtered in a classroom by an 18 year old kid with two assault rifles and full body armor that turned 18 two weeks ago and gov. Abbots new gun laws allowed this kid unrestricted to purchase military style guns.

So please I don’t need you OPP gun advocates to preach to me the 2nd amendment I know how it reads.

I am not looking for your insults I am attempting to create a common sense debate on why OPP gun advocates believe that doing absolutely nothing to protect our kids.

Here is a few examples.
(GUNS) br While the US has 5% of the global popula... (show quote)


"A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Are the guns, now, increasing the security of this "free State", or decreasing the security of this "free State"?

Where does the "well regulated" part come into play? Why didn't the writers of the 2nd amendment just leave out the part about "well regulated"?

Reply
May 27, 2022 06:26:24   #
Big Kahuna
 
Airforceone wrote:
(GUNS)
While the US has 5% of the global population it had 31% of all public mass k*****gs.
Just think about this and imagine in the United States people have a greater chance of dying in Mass shootings if you are at work school church or nightclubs.

The United States has 400 million guns in circulation with a population of 320 million people. The next closest country is India with 48 million guns with 1.25 million people.

But let’s just take one example Australia had only 4 mass k*****g between 1987 to 1996 and the Australian government had had enough with just 4 mass shootings. But after these incidents there parliament passed stricter gun laws and has not had a massive shooting since. Just common sense gun control it took them 2 months of working together to come up with common sense laws. The republicans in this country is do absolutely nothing and be careful of getting a low rating from the NRA in order to keep there jobs. There are many examples like this around the globe but the US will do nothing but blame democrats that there coming for your guns. That’s BS

Though 90% of the American people supports universal background checks the Us has a dangerous loophole that republicans support or refuse to address. They exempt unlicensed gun sellers from having to perform background checks and these guns easily find there way into the hands of illegal buyers and gun traffickers that sell these guns on the open market at high profits.

But OPP 2nd amendment supporters will post daily lies that background checks don’t work and there biggest lie is democrats are t trying to take your guns. Just listen to Fox News that’s all they report on that there coming for your guns. Well folks that’s a BS lie.

Also another loophole to make these OPP gun advocates that they ignore. Is gaps in our laws let’s people acquire a gun online without any background check this accounts for 45% of gun owners. That’s 160 million guns on our streets without a background check.

But when you read these OPP gun advocates that use conspiracy theories that states with strict gun laws have high gun violence. But these people ignore the states without background checks laws can export guns across states lines at a 60% higher rate than states requiring background checks. That’s amounts for high profits for illegal Gun sales. They love to point at Chicago but 70% of gun violence were from guns imported from states without gun laws.

Let’s look at 96% of inmates who were already prohibited from possessing a gun at the time of there offenses obtained there guns from unlicensed dealers that require no background checks.

This just shows a few examples that our loopholes has deadly consequences.

Contrary to OPP gun advocates rarely background checks rarely provide false results. The FBI quality control division evaluation suggest background checks are accurate because approximately 99.3% to 99.8% are accurate. But OPP conspiracy theorist along with Fox News will point at that .2% to justify doing nothing and then with the FBI report is nothing but the deep state theory as a lie. These people live by the word of Trump I believe Putin our FBI is the deep state theory.

But universal background checks with a national data base will minimize not gun violence in this country but just maybe eliminate kids being slaughtered in a classroom by an 18 year old kid with two assault rifles and full body armor that turned 18 two weeks ago and gov. Abbots new gun laws allowed this kid unrestricted to purchase military style guns.

So please I don’t need you OPP gun advocates to preach to me the 2nd amendment I know how it reads.

I am not looking for your insults I am attempting to create a common sense debate on why OPP gun advocates believe that doing absolutely nothing to protect our kids.

Here is a few examples.
(GUNS) br While the US has 5% of the global popula... (show quote)


After giving up their only means of self protection, their guns, the Australian government was empowered against their people and we see where it got them. Taking orders from every power hungry beaurocrat and being locked up in their homes during the C***d p*******c and having to report to the government when they stepped outside their homes. If you want to give up your gun, just do it. You will feel safer. The same holds true for paying your taxes to the IRS. Quit b***hing about the debt and start paying it off. Pay more taxes to the IRS than you are currently liable for. I would imagine you are 1 of the 50% of Americans that doesn't even pay federal income taxes.

Reply
May 27, 2022 06:52:22   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
robertv3 wrote:
"A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Are the guns, now, increasing the security of this "free State", or decreasing the security of this "free State"?

Where does the "well regulated" part come into play? Why didn't the writers of the 2nd amendment just leave out the part about "well regulated"?

Well regulated in the 18th century meant well-organized, well-armed, well-disciplined. It didn't mean “regulation” in the sense that we use it now. It means the m*****a was in an effective shape to fight. It didn't mean the state was controlling or “regulating” the m*****a in a certain way, but rather, the m*****a was prepared to do its duty.

Reply
 
 
May 27, 2022 07:26:59   #
American Vet
 
robertv3 wrote:
"A well regulated M*****a, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Are the guns, now, increasing the security of this "free State", or decreasing the security of this "free State"?

Where does the "well regulated" part come into play? Why didn't the writers of the 2nd amendment just leave out the part about "well regulated"?


Of course, the l*****t media always omits anything that doesn't jive with their narrative.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, almost every major study on defensive gun use has found that Americans use their firearms defensively between 500,000 and 3 million times each year. There’s good reason to believe that most defensive gun uses are never reported to law enforcement, much less picked up by local or national media outlets.
https://datavisualizations.heritage.org/firearms/defensive-gun-uses-in-the-us/



"Well regulated"
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.
https://constitution.org/1-Constitution/cons/wellregu.htm


And, as a side note, here are the thoughts of the Founding Fathers:

“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…” – George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful s***ery.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

Reply
May 27, 2022 10:53:39   #
F.D.R.
 
As a long time member of the 'gun culture' I suggest that the problem is the rapidly growing I***T CULTURE that is the problem. Younger generations are not being taught responsibility either at home or in school.

Reply
May 27, 2022 11:22:54   #
Airforceone
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Do yourself and everyone else a big favor.
Rather than posting anti-2nd Amendment propaganda without source attribution,
put on your thinking cap, if you have one, and identify for us as accurately as you can,
the cause of violent crime.


Where in the 2nd amendment does it find it Exceptable for an 18 year old kid to walk into a gun shop and purchase two AR-15 full body armor and walk into a classroom and slaughter 19 kids and two teachers. And doing nothing
I am not anti 2nd amendment I will take a snap shot of the 2nd amendment and show you that every American has the right to bear arms to form a m*****a. It’s says nothing about an 18 year old kid buying two AR-15 and 6 30 round clips by just showing his driver license. Is this okay with you

When the 2nd amendment was written it was to form a militia and besides all we had was single shot mussel loaders.
When the 2nd amendment was written it was to form ...

Actually yes I have done the research on the second amendment.
Actually yes I have done the research on the secon...

Reply
May 27, 2022 11:38:32   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Airforceone wrote:
Where in the 2nd amendment does it find it Exceptable for an 18 year old kid to walk into a gun shop and purchase two AR-15 full body armor and walk into a classroom and slaughter 19 kids and two teachers. And doing nothing
I am not anti 2nd amendment I will take a snap shot of the 2nd amendment and show you that every American has the right to bear arms to form a m*****a. It’s says nothing about an 18 year old kid buying two AR-15 and 6 30 round clips by just showing his driver license. Is this okay with you? When the 2nd amendment was written it was to form a m*****a and besides all we had was single shot mussel loaders.
Where in the 2nd amendment does it find it Except... (show quote)

Regarding your single shot mussel loader comment; that’s a false statement. Brush up on your firearms history and development.
As I previously stated to another OPP member: You insinuate the 2nd Amendment applies only to the arms available at the time it was written; that our founders couldn’t foresee the development of these arms therefore today’s arms are not protected under the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

Let’s apply that same logic to the 1st Amendment, freedom of speech. We can agree the 1st applies to both verbal and written forms of speech. Our founders certainly didn’t envision the development of the computer and the internet. Therefore these instruments are not protected under the 1st Amendment as viable tools for the written form of speech. I suggest the next time you want to express your opinion to the masses you fill your ink well, pick up your quill, document your thoughts on parchment, find a horse delivery service and send your opinion off to those you wish to communicate with.

Reply
 
 
May 27, 2022 12:00:07   #
American Vet
 
JR-57 wrote:
Regarding your single shot mussel loader comment; that’s a false statement. Brush up on your firearms history and development.
As I previously stated to another OPP member: You insinuate the 2nd Amendment applies only to the arms available at the time it was written; that our founders couldn’t foresee the development of these arms therefore today’s arms are not protected under the rights of the 2nd Amendment.

Let’s apply that same logic to the 1st Amendment, freedom of speech. We can agree the 1st applies to both verbal and written forms of speech. Our founders certainly didn’t envision the development of the computer and the internet. Therefore these instruments are not protected under the 1st Amendment as viable tools for the written form of speech. I suggest the next time you want to express your opinion to the masses you fill your ink well, pick up your quill, document your thoughts on parchment, find a horse delivery service and send your opinion off to those you wish to communicate with.
Regarding your single shot mussel loader comment; ... (show quote)



Reply
May 27, 2022 12:02:46   #
dickie Loc: Massachusetts
 
American Vet wrote:
Of course, the l*****t media always omits anything that doesn't jive with their narrative.

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, almost every major study on defensive gun use has found that Americans use their firearms defensively between 500,000 and 3 million times each year. There’s good reason to believe that most defensive gun uses are never reported to law enforcement, much less picked up by local or national media outlets.
https://datavisualizations.heritage.org/firearms/defensive-gun-uses-in-the-us/



"Well regulated"
The phrase "well-regulated" was in common use long before 1789, and remained so for a century thereafter. It referred to the property of something being in proper working order. Something that was well-regulated was calibrated correctly, functioning as expected. Establishing government oversight of the people's arms was not only not the intent in using the phrase in the 2nd amendment, it was precisely to render the government powerless to do so that the founders wrote it.
https://constitution.org/1-Constitution/cons/wellregu.htm


And, as a side note, here are the thoughts of the Founding Fathers:

“A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined…” – George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

“No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful s***ery.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

“What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

“The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes…. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” – Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776
Of course, the l*****t media always omits anything... (show quote)


THIS IS THE USA! There is no one coming to our rescue if things go sideways. No one will be. Resupplying us. No one will airdrop food, ammunition, medicine. There is no place to escape to for freedom. THIS is IT! Protect it or lose it!
Another thought: Many of us are the grandchildren of immigrants, a fact of which we are proud. Our people helped to build this country. But we witness with unalloyed horror the tide flowing across our southern border unimpeded. The middle class view them as criminals, gang members and mooches. The Democratic party sees them as v**ers. We can’t defend our own borders but are expected to defend those of distant lands.

Reply
May 27, 2022 12:07:11   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
dickie wrote:
THIS IS THE USA! There is no one coming to our rescue if things go sideways. No one will be. Resupplying us. No one will airdrop food, ammunition, medicine. There is no place to escape to for freedom. THIS is IT! Protect it or lose it!
Another thought: Many of us are the grandchildren of immigrants, a fact of which we are proud. Our people helped to build this country. But we witness with unalloyed horror the tide flowing across our southern border unimpeded. The middle class view them as criminals, gang members and mooches. The Democratic party sees them as v**ers. We can’t defend our own borders but are expected to defend those of distant lands.
THIS IS THE USA! There is no one coming to our res... (show quote)

You hit the nail on the head.
“If we lose freedom here, there is no place to escape to. This is the last stand on earth.” ― Ronald Reagan

Reply
May 27, 2022 14:45:47   #
WEBCO
 
Airforceone wrote:
(GUNS)
While the US has 5% of the global population it had 31% of all public mass k*****gs.
Just think about this and imagine in the United States people have a greater chance of dying in Mass shootings if you are at work school church or nightclubs.

The United States has 400 million guns in circulation with a population of 320 million people. The next closest country is India with 48 million guns with 1.25 million people.

But let’s just take one example Australia had only 4 mass k*****g between 1987 to 1996 and the Australian government had had enough with just 4 mass shootings. But after these incidents there parliament passed stricter gun laws and has not had a massive shooting since. Just common sense gun control it took them 2 months of working together to come up with common sense laws. The republicans in this country is do absolutely nothing and be careful of getting a low rating from the NRA in order to keep there jobs. There are many examples like this around the globe but the US will do nothing but blame democrats that there coming for your guns. That’s BS

Though 90% of the American people supports universal background checks the Us has a dangerous loophole that republicans support or refuse to address. They exempt unlicensed gun sellers from having to perform background checks and these guns easily find there way into the hands of illegal buyers and gun traffickers that sell these guns on the open market at high profits.

But OPP 2nd amendment supporters will post daily lies that background checks don’t work and there biggest lie is democrats are t trying to take your guns. Just listen to Fox News that’s all they report on that there coming for your guns. Well folks that’s a BS lie.

Also another loophole to make these OPP gun advocates that they ignore. Is gaps in our laws let’s people acquire a gun online without any background check this accounts for 45% of gun owners. That’s 160 million guns on our streets without a background check.

But when you read these OPP gun advocates that use conspiracy theories that states with strict gun laws have high gun violence. But these people ignore the states without background checks laws can export guns across states lines at a 60% higher rate than states requiring background checks. That’s amounts for high profits for illegal Gun sales. They love to point at Chicago but 70% of gun violence were from guns imported from states without gun laws.

Let’s look at 96% of inmates who were already prohibited from possessing a gun at the time of there offenses obtained there guns from unlicensed dealers that require no background checks.

This just shows a few examples that our loopholes has deadly consequences.

Contrary to OPP gun advocates rarely background checks rarely provide false results. The FBI quality control division evaluation suggest background checks are accurate because approximately 99.3% to 99.8% are accurate. But OPP conspiracy theorist along with Fox News will point at that .2% to justify doing nothing and then with the FBI report is nothing but the deep state theory as a lie. These people live by the word of Trump I believe Putin our FBI is the deep state theory.

But universal background checks with a national data base will minimize not gun violence in this country but just maybe eliminate kids being slaughtered in a classroom by an 18 year old kid with two assault rifles and full body armor that turned 18 two weeks ago and gov. Abbots new gun laws allowed this kid unrestricted to purchase military style guns.

So please I don’t need you OPP gun advocates to preach to me the 2nd amendment I know how it reads.

I am not looking for your insults I am attempting to create a common sense debate on why OPP gun advocates believe that doing absolutely nothing to protect our kids.

Here is a few examples.
(GUNS) br While the US has 5% of the global popula... (show quote)


I would be for "common sense" reform...but don't forget that the left thinks it makes sense to allow boys to play in girl sports leagues and use girls rest rooms, etc.

So I don't trust their definition of "common sense"

Reply
Page <prev 2 of 8 next> last>>
If you want to reply, then register here. Registration is free and your account is created instantly, so you can post right away.
Main
OnePoliticalPlaza.com - Forum
Copyright 2012-2024 IDF International Technologies, Inc.