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May 25, 2022 12:31:33   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Milosia2 wrote:
You have no tax payer money to spend.
This is why the right v**es No on everything except tax breaks for people who don’t need it.
The money is gone and anything that needs to be spent needs to be borrowed from the same rich people we give tax breaks to.

Please enroll in Economics 101.

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May 25, 2022 12:58:37   #
WEBCO
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It isn’t the government k*****g students.
The government paid for the schools , the books , the classrooms, they subsidize teachers salaries, busses, school guards
Public money pays for these things.
Republicans are against these things and believe private schools are the answer.
Schools that the public will then pay for out of their own pockets.
On top of what they already pay .
Who in the fack is hector bayate ???


Let the money follow the student. It works great. School starts teaching r****t crap or g***ming your child with l*****t ideology you can simply pull them out and send them to a charter school or private school. We just did that with our 7 year old. Takes all the power from the unions and gives it to the parents where it belongs. It's no wonder democrats and the teachers unions h**e it.

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May 25, 2022 13:02:41   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
elcobre wrote:
Reality, not a theory.

Do removing and prohibiting all guns from citizens in this country prevent or stop most of those senseless, atrocious, despicable, evil shootings in schools and elsewhere?

Of course, it will, however..,

What is the price?

And what is the true reality about it?

You will lose your freedom and become a s***e of a totalitarian government! And…

How do I know that?

Because I was born and raised in a socialist country!...

Where is prohibited to own any gun, however…,

You will lose everything else!!

Freedom and liberty will go forever, because it’s not just the guns…

But everything!

You will not think by yourself anymore, the government will do it for you!

You won’t be able to choose, or work hard for your future!

Because your future will be and is only one..!!

To be part of socialism, or c*******m or, a totalitarian government, which is the same as “liberalism, progressiveness, left wings, fanaticism of mainly islamics, and others, which now includes the new democrats in this country who represent, or call themself members of the Democratic Party.

That is exactly what this government wants!

The new democratic Party doesn't care about the children that were assassinated by a disturbed criminal, nor do they want to find a solution, or real answers, as to why or how we prevent those diabolics acts from happening.

Because, all they want is power!

And taking advantage of any situation for their political purpose!!

And the ones from that political party which is becoming a degenerate, diabolical Party, who genuinely feel sorry for those innocent children and families and others that were involved and their lives will change forever, however, those democrats will be, or…

They are as guilty as the ones committing the crime…

Because your blindness won’t absolve you of the immorality and corruption of the Party where you belong!

The puppet president, Mr. Biden and the new democratic Party are infected with an incurable cancer…

It is diabolical and unfixable…unless real democrats open their eyes and fight them.

They already declared any opposition, or any dissent idea or person as r****t or terrorists!
Real Democrats and conservatives need to open their eyes and mind and fight this government that is becoming (or already is) an evil, a diabolical administration!

Thank you for your attention,

Héctor Bayate
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So Ector, who is saying remove all guns from all the citizens? That could never be a solution, but maybe restricting access to some might be a solution? This happened (again) in TX, a state with liberal gun controls. Maybe if the school staff were packing heat, this type of thing wouldn't occur. Just saying

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May 25, 2022 13:03:53   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
Bevvy wrote:
Every day, more than 3,700 people die in car accidents around the world. That's over 1 million people a year!

Tell congress we must outlaw the automobile ..


Great reply, good to see your thinking straight

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May 25, 2022 13:16:03   #
elcobre
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
So Ector, who is saying remove all guns from all the citizens? That could never be a solution, but maybe restricting access to some might be a solution? This happened (again) in TX, a state with liberal gun controls. Maybe if the school staff were packing heat, this type of thing wouldn't occur. Just saying


Héctor is with an H, so you got it wrong from the beginning, so again,

you should think instead of reacting, then maybe you might get the whole picture, can you?

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May 25, 2022 13:24:23   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
elcobre wrote:
Héctor is with an H, so you got it wrong from the beginning, so again,

you should think instead of reacting, then maybe you might get the whole picture, can you?


I did it on propose. Let me hear you thoughts on how to stop this type of senseless k*****g. There are over 400 million guns in the US. Removing them isn't the answer and shouldn't be in the discussion. Some form of stricter access might work. Do 18 yr old high school students need to buy guns? Maybe the teachers need to be armed?

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May 25, 2022 13:28:37   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I did it on propose. Let me hear you thoughts on how to stop this type of senseless k*****g. There are over 400 million guns in the US. Removing them isn't the answer and shouldn't be in the discussion. Some form of stricter access might work. Do 18 yr old high school students need to buy guns? Maybe the teachers need to be armed?

I’m not sure why you’re being so antagonistic. I don’t recall Hector advocating for the removal of all guns. In fact, I’m pretty sure he stated he was against it. By the way, the right to own a gun is not based on a matter of need. Never has been never will be.

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May 25, 2022 13:47:40   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It isn’t the government k*****g students.
The government paid for the schools , the books , the classrooms, they subsidize teachers salaries, busses, school guards
Public money pays for these things.
Republicans are against these things and believe private schools are the answer.
Schools that the public will then pay for out of their own pockets.
On top of what they already pay .
Who in the fack is hector bayate ???

You’re absolutely clueless!
Government doesn’t pay for anything!
My taxes pay for EVERYTHING!

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May 25, 2022 14:03:59   #
vernon
 
kemmer wrote:
Another 18 children murdered in their classrooms in Texas. Will we look into gun control? The NRA says “Forget it!”, so Congress says “No!”.


Your people have control of government whats wrong with them.

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May 25, 2022 14:26:47   #
Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial
 
JR-57 wrote:
I’m not sure why you’re being so antagonistic. I don’t recall Hector advocating for the removal of all guns. In fact, I’m pretty sure he stated he was against it. By the way, the right to own a gun is not based on a matter of need. Never has been never will be.


Hector posed a question about "removing all guns". Yes, the 2nd amendment, the right to bear arms. Not everyone should get to enjoy this right.

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May 25, 2022 14:30:21   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Hector posed a question about "removing all guns". Yes, the 2nd amendment, the right to bear arms. Not everyone should get to enjoy this right.


Agreed if found with a gun a felon should do mandatory year for first offence more after each one and there should be a list of mentally ill patients so they can't buy one.

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May 25, 2022 14:37:36   #
American Vet
 
keepuphope wrote:
Agreed if found with a gun a felon should do mandatory year for first offence more after each one and there should be a list of mentally ill patients so they can't buy one.


You are too kind. I believe a crime committed using a gun is an automatic 5 years in addition to the sentence for the crime - no parole for this, no 'time off for good behavior' - 5 years hard time at a federal penitentiary.

I believe that people who have been deemed as mentally ill already appear on the NICS checks??

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May 25, 2022 15:06:32   #
JR-57 Loc: South Carolina
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
Hector posed a question about "removing all guns". Yes, the 2nd amendment, the right to bear arms. Not everyone should get to enjoy this right.

Hector also went on to explain why that would be the wrong thing to do.
Regarding the 2nd Amendment; there are existing laws that address your concern. Not everyone has the right.

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May 25, 2022 15:12:39   #
keepuphope Loc: Idaho
 
American Vet wrote:
You are too kind. I believe a crime committed using a gun is an automatic 5 years in addition to the sentence for the crime - no parole for this, no 'time off for good behavior' - 5 years hard time at a federal penitentiary.

I believe that people who have been deemed as mentally ill already appear on the NICS checks??

No I meant if they get detained for any reason and the gun is not theirs go to jail, we already have gun charges for felons but need to add more time to it.

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May 25, 2022 15:45:51   #
elcobre
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
I did it on propose. Let me hear you thoughts on how to stop this type of senseless k*****g. There are over 400 million guns in the US. Removing them isn't the answer and shouldn't be in the discussion. Some form of stricter access might work. Do 18 yr old high school students need to buy guns? Maybe the teachers need to be armed?



Mr. Tiptop,

You sound like a liberal with an illusion or delusion (utopia) that things can be perfect, and

I’m not going to explain, or extend my thoughts about it, however,

I can tell you that a conversation or discussion about it is good and probably necessary..however,

There needs to be honesty, morality about it, and that’s exactly “what is lacking from this government”!! Or administration.

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