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May 14, 2022 18:56:58   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
JediKnight wrote:
Yes DMF you are entitled to your opinion and perspective, as am I. I ask no one to bear guilt for "mistakes of the past" - nor will I condone said mistakes by saying "everybody was doing it." Wrong is wrong, and pretending no one is to blame just makes matters worse. Putting one's head in the sand still does not prevent the horrible t***h from being what it is.


I would recommend you pursue some self-punishment perhaps with a bat to the balls.

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May 14, 2022 19:06:01   #
JediKnight
 
WinkyTink wrote:
I would recommend you pursue some self-punishment perhaps with a bat to the balls.


As expected, a typical deflection from a confused mind.

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May 14, 2022 19:49:22   #
BIRDMAN
 
Airforceone wrote:
He told the American people that these people are strong leaders.
Vladimir Putin ————-Russia
Kim Jong-Un————North Korea
XI Jinging —————China
Recep Tayyip———-Turkey
Abdullah Aziz Al Saud—-Saudi Arabia

What did all these leaders have in Common they are all dictators

Trump totally ignored the rule of law, he refused to allow any of his inner circle to appear or testify in congress.

He totally ignored the constitutional process of checks and balances.

He fired 5 of the top Generals because they disagreed with him.

He totally ignored the CIA FBI and the 19 Intel agencies and said I believe Putin.

He incited an i**********n on our capital by telling the big lie that he got c***ted out of the e******n. When every court in this country laughed at his so called evidence.

He tried numerous ways to invalidate our e******n and the proof is many taped phone conversations and text messages.

He totally ignored the emoluments clause.

He totally ignored the process of checks and balance.

He tried and accomplished tearing apart the MSM.

And along with his love of dictators did everything he could do to tear down NATO.

Do you want more
He told the American people that these people are ... (show quote)


Yes you forgot the greatest economy cheap gas and secure southern border no war in Ukraine do you want me to go on

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May 14, 2022 21:59:33   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
JediKnight wrote:
As expected, a typical deflection from a confused mind.


Oooooooooooo, you are werry witty.

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May 15, 2022 04:01:46   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
Airforceone wrote:
We now have control over each state legislators. They now have total control over which e*****rs from there state will be sent to Congress. We now can ignore the v**ers in these states. We have learned over the last 30 years that republicans cannot win a national e******n.
The only way a democrat wins is to c***t. Trump has made that very clear even thou every court in our country found no evidence but we have to believe Trump, the man is a genius. And Trump would never ever lie to the American people.

We now have the right agenda by making it harder to v**e. We are ending mail in v****g that really will stop the elderly v**e.

The elderly v**e to save there SS and Medicare so they v**e for democrats and also ending Sunday v****g what a great move by republicans. That helps to slow down the working man from v****g.

All these great moves by republicans to make it illegal to hand out food and water at the polls. Another great move by the republicans was automatically remove v**er from the registration list if they miss an e******n which is awesome and they don’t even have to notify these v**ers that they were removed absolutely an amazing move by the right wing. 👍👍👍👍👍great move

These moves have been developed by the right wing to attack those districts that v**e Democratic, elderly v**ers, the working man. Great great move 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

And now as a safety valve we instituted some more safeguards we the republicans now ignore the red states v**ers and put the e******n results in the hands of red state republicans and these legislators now can adjust the v**er counts where republicans win. Can you just imagine how great this move is. Damm these right wing legislators are brilliant. Then add in gerrymandering outstanding moves.

We can now get to Making America Great. After 233 years of being held hostage by the constitution, rule of law and congressional oversight we are about to get a dictator back in the White House. We can turn our nation over to one ruler (Donald J. Trump) and his family. Donald Jr. a great American, Eric another great American and we all know now that it was Ivanka and Jared that advised Trump. We have to thank god for the the Trump family. 233 years is about to come to an end.

(THANK YOU DONALD TRUMP FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND TELLING US THE T***H YOU TRULY NOW CAN WALK IN THOMAS JEFFERSON SHOES EVEN THU HE HAD THAT 233 year old document wrong. Thank you Donald.
We now have control over each state legislators. T... (show quote)


I believe you are misinformed about your v**er suppression crap and about no court finding evidence of wrong doing . I explained it so many times I believe you either understand and are just spouting talking points knowing they are false . Or you really are thick as a brick. Trump wasn't a dictator but Biden qualifies. If you can't understand the comparison then I can't help you. The constitution is in better hands with republicans then 21st century democrats. QYB FJB. MAGA. AMERICA FIRST.

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May 15, 2022 07:26:02   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
JediKnight wrote:
Yes DMF you are entitled to your opinion and perspective, as am I. I ask no one to bear guilt for "mistakes of the past" - nor will I condone said mistakes by saying "everybody was doing it." Wrong is wrong, and pretending no one is to blame just makes matters worse. Putting one's head in the sand still does not prevent the horrible t***h from being what it is.



The horrible t***h being what it WAS. We came a long way in 220years making a more perfect union. Not only was s***ery outlawed we even elected a black man to be president. Now how in the hell can anyone say America is r****t when less then 15 % of the country is black and we elected a black president. Either we weren't that r****t or the e******n was r****d. Obama who is a r****t divided this country three different ways. Race Religion and G****r . All part of a bigger plan by bigger players who's goal was to take America down so their NWO wouldn't have so much opposition. Taking Russia down is also part of their plan hence all the negative implications of being friendly towards Russia.. Any American loving soul could easily see the food Trump was doing for America. And a strong America means a strong united world. The NWO couldn't have that. So we got Biden and America is falling. Trump getting us out of the Iran nuclear deal was the right decision. Iran now will have a nuclear weapon by the end of this year. Getting us out of the climate accord was the right move. We have been restricting emissions for 50 years we are already ahead of the rest. NATO was becoming obsolete that's why they are overstepping their bounds and breaking treaties now causing conflict in Ukraine. It's good to remember where we came from but it's also good to see where we are now and where we want to be 5-10 years from now.
We could have been like Saudl Arabia and castrated all our s***es. Then we wouldn't be having this discussion. Something to think about

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May 15, 2022 10:28:18   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
WinkyTink wrote:
Do you type / write much? Try English. Are you the product of a recent public school indoctrination?

I am a lot of things but certainly not a democrat mind fart.


Hey winky. Kinda dinky with your words, go wear your pink Trump hat with p***e. There is that good enough English for you little boy?

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May 15, 2022 11:27:46   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
jimpack123 wrote:
Hey winky. Kinda dinky with your words, go wear your pink Trump hat with p***e. There is that good enough English for you little boy?


My Trump hats are always red and fresh. It’s the same with my Putin hats. I buy them both by the case.

The “There,” starting your second sentence is unnecessary.

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May 15, 2022 12:09:18   #
BIRDMAN
 
WinkyTink wrote:
My Trump hats are always red and fresh. It’s the same with my Putin hats. I buy them both by the case.

The “There,” starting your second sentence is unnecessary.


Yes the new summer Putin hats are outstanding

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May 15, 2022 12:30:11   #
MidnightRider
 
proud republican wrote:
Where are all these articles from??? Left wing propaganda BS??.. And even if did say that, did he actually cut them??? No!!!So stop listening or reading BS from BS left- wing sites!!!!!🙄🙄🙄


You're talking to the wind. They drank the koolaid.

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May 15, 2022 12:39:55   #
jimpack123 Loc: wisconsin
 
MidnightRider wrote:
You're talking to the wind. They drank the koolaid.


the Koolaid is Trumps Piss poor lies same as ours

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May 17, 2022 00:54:06   #
robertv3
 
Parky60 wrote:
If Biden instituting the Ministry of T***h isn't a BIG sign of instituting a dictatorship I don't know what is. And if you can't see that you're an imbecile.


I resent that use of the word "imbecile" -- although since you wrote it, I guess it doesn't mean much.

I've already written enough about the so-called "Ministry of T***h" or wh**ever it's really called, in some other thread. I won't argue it yet again now.

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May 17, 2022 01:06:06   #
robertv3
 
WinkyTink wrote:
What's up with the derogatory language?

[...]


You ask, "What's up with the derogatory language?"

You had just finished calling him "homo". He was merely replying in kind:

Snapshot of the conversation:

WinkyTink wrote:
"Ever been to Mississippi, homo?"
Then RascalRiley wrote:
"Yes q***r, I have."

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May 17, 2022 10:13:42   #
WinkyTink Loc: Hill Country, TX
 
robertv3 wrote:
You ask, "What's up with the derogatory language?"

You had just finished calling him "homo". He was merely replying in kind:

Snapshot of the conversation:

WinkyTink wrote:
"Ever been to Mississippi, homo?"
Then RascalRiley wrote:
"Yes q***r, I have."


We are all homos.

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May 18, 2022 14:47:54   #
robertv3
 
Airforceone wrote:
He told the American people that these people are strong leaders.
Vladimir Putin ————-Russia
Kim Jong-Un————North Korea
XI Jinging —————China
Recep Tayyip———-Turkey
Abdullah Aziz Al Saud—-Saudi Arabia

What did all these leaders have in Common they are all dictators

Trump totally ignored the rule of law, he refused to allow any of his inner circle to appear or testify in congress.



That not allowing to testify seems wrong to me too. I mean, _sometimes_ not allowing to testify might be okay, but he disallows so much testimony that it's a wrong thing, like he doesn't respect anyone's right to know what his administration is doing or was doing.

Airforceone wrote:


He totally ignored the constitutional process of checks and balances.


That's what I thought too. I might have said it in a different way: He and his followers and supporters don't appreciate the constitutional process of checks and balances.

Airforceone wrote:

He fired 5 of the top Generals because they disagreed with him.

He totally ignored the CIA FBI and the 19 Intel agencies and said I believe Putin.

He incited an i**********n on our capital by telling the big lie that he got c***ted out of the e******n. When every court in this country laughed at his so called evidence.



Yes, though with one small exception, which was probably an insignificant one. I heard that he won 1 out of 61 cases.

Airforceone wrote:


He tried numerous ways to invalidate our e******n and the proof is many taped phone conversations and text messages.



There was that conversation with Raffensperger of Pennsylvania. Trump acts like some kind of criminal in it ("I just need you to find me ### v**es"). It was very inappropriate. A real public servant just knows, or has been trained to know, that they have to guard against conflicts of interest, and _even_ guard against the _appearance_ of conflicts of interest (so that the public can be more sure of whom to trust and whom not to trust). Trump not only tends to not appreciate such things, but also may not have ever received the standard training that civil servants repeatedly receive about that. That's because he became president without experience working for the government.

And a lot of Republicans don't see anything wrong with that, because their brains turn off as soon as the concept of "government" or "responsibility to the public" get near them. (That's probably because they've been trained to be like that, by the large business corporations who don't want the public to understand anything about accountability or responsibility to the public.)

Trump did know of a different kind of responsibility to a segment of the public; he did try to satisfy his "base", either directly or just by manipulating them to think they were being served. But neither is the same as serving the public generally.

Airforceone wrote:


He totally ignored the emoluments clause.


Yes. I remember that. At the time I looked up the word, and thought, "yep, it matters, and he doesn't appreciate it". (I have since forgotten what the word means, but I remember it was kind of similar to "conflict of interest" or "bribe".)

Airforceone wrote:


He totally ignored the process of checks and balance.



Pretty much, yeah. But what's a little autocracy among friends?

Airforceone wrote:


He tried and accomplished tearing apart the MSM.



Nah. Damaged, probably; tore apart, no. I still read the NYTimes, much more than before he became president, and surely the NYTimes is part of "MSM" (which I've assumed means "mainstream media"). Why would anything Trump said about it make a whit of difference to me? I learned very early that Trump wasn't worth listening to. And there are probably many millions such as me, who feel the same way. Maybe more than half the population of the U.S. think Trump isn't even worth listening to.

Airforceone wrote:


And along with his love of dictators did everything he could do to tear down NATO.

Do you want more


Pulling out of the Paris climate agreement; pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal. Promoting "coal" (as if there were no better option -- even for the coal miners, if the administration had the sense to support another option). Various things about the p******c, such as lying to the public about it, as seen by the contrast with what he had told Bob Woodward. Cultivating a climate of disrespect. Cultivating a climate of ignorance about government, although that didn't start with him. He's just better at spreading ignorance than the other folks are.

All that said, I think it's important to remember that Trump, bad as he was as a candidate in 2016, became president in large part because of the bad workings of the Republican Party. It's analogous to parents neglecting to guard against their child doing wrong things like running into the street or setting the house on fire. There should have been guard rails to prevent someone like Trump from becoming president.

When Trump became president he was unprepared for the job. He was good at being obnoxious; and that (plus inherited wealth) got him pretty far; and then suddenly he found himself in a position he was almost totally unqualified for, and he didn't know what to do.

So it's not totally just his fault. You wouldn't blame a moron for failing a PhD oral exam in something he hadn't studied; right? In that example, much of the blame is on the people who set the moron up to take that exam.

To a large degree, the Republican Party did this to Trump. I'm really glad I'm not Trump: that's what I thought soon after he got elected, and I still think it. In that position (just having been elected president), I (realizing that I was unqualified for the job, and that I had boasted too much) might have died of shame. Trump in public usually appears to have a kind of callousness or shamelessness. I'm sure that callousness is occasionally useful in a president; they have to withstand pressures. So in that one small way, he was qualified, in a tiny partial way, to be a president. It's like a drop (or, just one thing) compared to a bucketful (of a variety of things) of what's needed to be a good president of the U.S.

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