Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

You are a real American and a true patriot.

Ri-chard Loc: 23322

Thank God, stay in your box.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Thanks! As are you. If I don't believe I live in the greatest country in the world I should leave or never complain.

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Thank God, keep your tin foil hat on tight.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Seems to me that the expansion of NATO and the willingness of the west to fund a war against Russia is where the bullying is. That and the past 8 - 10 years of BS in Ukraine with them attacking Russians within their borders, one could see Putin's point.



I got this from Zemirah on one of my threads:

As Vladimir Putin had been saying for years (since 2014) as he was ignored, by both the Ukrainian government and the so-called "civilized" nations of the west, he wanted the Ukrainian government to cease attacking and murdering the Russian speaking residents of Donetsk and Lugansk...

"Before the Russian incursion, according to The Citizen News International, printed on Sunday February 20, 2022, since 2014, about 9,000 civilians had been k**led in the Donbass by the Ukrainian military. Such data was presented at the press conference “Scorched memory of Donbass: war crimes of the Ukrainian army and new data on the massacres of the civilian population.”

According to the representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the self-proclained Lugansk People's Republic (LPR) Anna Soroka, more than 2,000 civilians, including 35 children, had been k**led during the conflict in the republic, 3,365 people were injured, including 88 minors.

The Commissioner for Human Rights in the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DPR), Daria Morozova, said that more than 5,000 people, including 91 minor children, became victims among the population of the DPR. About 8 thousand more people were injured of varying severity during this period.

Determining the exact number of victims of hostilities in the region is still complicated by the large number of missing people.

As Daria Morozova noted, during the active phase of hostilities in 2014, it was not possible to record deaths with documents, and civilians buried the dead on their own, not even knowing their names.

It is noted that at that time the Ukrainian military did not allow the dead to be buried: the cemeteries were mined or shelled.

At the end of July 2021, according to Anna Soroka, the LPR had information of about 17 places of spontaneous burial of civilians, among them seven burials containing more than 50 bodies of civilians. More than 130 places of mass and spontaneous burial have been discovered and unearthed on the territory of the DPR, Daria Morozova noted.

Special working groups were set up in the republics to search for the burial places of victims of the conflict and missing persons.

As the Deputy Foreign Minister of the LPR said, in three and a half months of work, 292 bodies of civilians were raised, and, as followed from the initial examination of forensic specialists, these were indeed civilians.

“What we saw was scary for us. We especially had this feeling. In Sokologorovsk, Pervomaisk district, where ten burials were found 50-70 m deep, where people were simply collected from the streets and buried, simply because it was not possible to bury them normally.We have found new burial places and we can say that strikes were carried out even in those places about which we had no information before,” she said.

DPR Ombudsman Daria Morozova reported that , the remains of nine more civilians who died as a result of the shelling of Ilovaisk in 2014 were raised in the village of Gornoye in Khartsyzsk. According to her, then an ambulance, in which they tried to evacuate a wounded civilian man, came under fire from the armed forces of Ukraine (AFU). The car and everyone in it were burned.

The calculation of the dead, as Dmitry Kalashnikov, head of the forensic medical examination bureau of the Donetsk People's Republic, drew attention to, is further complicated by the fact that in 2014 "the guys fought in jeans."

“Then it was not fixed whether it was military or civilian. We just saw that they were dead. We do not have exact statistics for 2014-2015. More than 60% of the dead are civilians,” he said.

According to Daria Morozova, if all the work goes smoothly, the work on the entire territory can be completed in just two years.

But, if we talk about the global search for the missing, everything will depend on how soon Kiev starts a dialogue with the self-proclaimed republics, because without a full-fledged exchange of information with the Ukrainian side, it will be impossible to establish the fate of all people,” she said.

“Kyiv is building a policy on the bones - this is the height of N**ism, it is no longer clear what is going on in these people’s heads,” said Daria Morozova.

According to Anna Soroka, starting work at the end of July 2021, the authorities expected some results, but the reality exceeded their expectations.

“In Sokologorovka, we expected to pick up 40 bodies, but we picked up 80. There was a lot of new, additional information for us. The number of victims has increased by 100 compared to our expectations. We will not stop until we find everyone, ”she promised.

Separately, Dmitry Kalashnikov drew attention to the injuries of victims who have been admitted to morgues recently. According to him, the so-called military assistance to Ukraine from other countries is of interest."

Remember, this was shortly BEFORE Russia was finally sufficiently provoked into entering Ukraine's borders...

How long will it take our lawless, brain dead Biden regime to deliberately, or at least sufficiently provoke Vladimir
Putin into directly counter attack the U.S. by going nuclear?

Grandpa Rick

If Putin.is so concerned about the people of Donbas why is he bombing and shelling those very people? I've heard that 90% of these people are Russian speakers; Putin is not doing them any good by destroying their homes, rail facilities, etc.
Don't try to justify Putin by ascribing good intentions to him. Mussolini's invasion of Ethiopia was minimized by those who said "at least he made the trains run on time."

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Correct. Putin says the people in those regions were being slaughtered by Ukrainian's and the Ukrainian's say the same about the Russians k*****g them. All I know is the indiscriminate bombing and intentional k*****g of civilians by Russian forces, under the leadership of Putin is evil.

Ri-chard Loc: 23322

Moscow wanted to prevent the West from helping. Bombing their supply lines to protect the Russian speaking Christian people against the q***r dancing leader and his N**i army.
Remember, since In March 2014 the Ukraine's have been bombing Donbass k*****g innocents. don't use one source for your news https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Ukrainian-Bombings-Displace-The-Population-Of-Donbass-20220218-0009.html

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Was Putin bombing those in the dombas from 2014 until nearly the start of this war? No. So why would you believe it is Russia bombing them now?? The whole idea makes zero sense.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Exactly. We are getting lies about this war so that the US will continue to give Ukraine money and weapons.

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Did you ever stop to think that the reason Putin raises so much hell about more countrys joining NATO is that he knows he can't invade a NATO country without the rest of NATO kicking Russian ass.--

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

Just can’t believe, Putin, the Nationalists, Nationalist, would have allowed Russians to be attacked for the last five or more years. Sound like propaganda to me. This war has proved one thing. NATO would crush Russia in a conventional war. However; this sending billions without accountability is stupid. We actually have a real good inspector general who stopped much of the waste and fraud that went to Afghanistan. Why isn’t he allowed to check the books?

Ri-chard Loc: 23322

Yes, the German N**i Army and C*******t Army k**led more Russian people than anyone else. And the NATO and NWO club members want to continue this culling of the Russian Orthodox Christian people. So NATO continues to surround them.

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I keep forgetting that the "western" view is that Putin wants to conquer the world.

The west is now a smaller part of the world. You DO know that, don't you?

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

Putin wants to reclaimthe former Soviet empire. The people living in the former Soviet sattelites want to be free. --Freedom--