woodguru

As the wording is scrutinized, it is obvious that there is a degree of outright disdain for precedent that is not acceptable. One of the things I saw being quoted and talked about was a reference he made to a time when a******n was illegal, and those who did them were k**led as witches...that was 1644.

All bets are that that bit of stupidity will be cancelled, it's embarrassing...and in all fairness it may have been that it would have disappeared by the time it had gone through discussions and rewrites.

There is a degree of looking at whether the supreme court should be allowed to operate in the secrecy it always has. It has become an entity that is operating in the dark, and too often without any explanations for taking hard politically biased deviations from the constitution.

proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA

No!

Liberty Tree

No, no matter how much the left tries to intimidate him.

Barbancon

Redactions will probably be recommended and adopted, as this was a draft out for comments.

There are no precedents for a******n in American history until the c*******t funded ‘social revolution’ of the 1960s which resulted in a few states legalizing a******n in the 1970s.

Nobody will be forced to do anything. The political decision by left wing radicals that claimed to ‘discover’ a ‘constitutional right’ to a******n that doesn’t exist is what’s being overturned.

The constitution is silent on the issue and so the regulatory authority is vested in state legislatures. End of story.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

***Be Honest, Do You Think Alito Is Going To Be Forced To Change His Written Opinion?
>>>Do you know how stupid that sounds?

woodguru

That's your beliefs and wishes talking, not the thinking part of your brain. Alito's positions are unhinged from the constitution and settled law.

woodguru

You don't think a person can take a look at positions he's taken and reflect on when they needed some extra thinking and having reality pointed out?

woodguru

The part you miss has nothing to do with what you just said, what is at stake here is the heart of what determines what the states have a say in and what the federal laws determine as based on the rights and freedoms of every citizen in the united states.

And here is t***h based fact, if civil rights were left up to states sodomy laws would still be in effect in at least one state, laws protecting gays in the workplace would not exist, there are states that would see nothing wrong with discriminating against b****s. The supreme court has had to step into hundreds of situations where states would trample people's civil rights, and this is what the conservative court and Alito is doing. They are opening a******n and a lot of other things to a state by state free for all.

It's not a constitutional right to a******n, it's the right to decide for yourself what you do, not the church.

Barbancon

The church? What church? There have been no state churches in the United States since the 19th c.

If you are opposed to US citizens expressing their political will through their elected state representatives on matters reserved to the states, you can always try a constitutional amendment.

Otherwise you will have to abide by the law.

You can always move to one of the states where the laws are more to your liking. That is what American freedom is all about.

What you will not be premitted to do is to force your particular version of ‘the good’ onto every American against their will, as most democrats seem to want to do. That’s what left wing totalitarian regimes are for (c*******t Cuba. N. Korea, China etc.)

Strycker Loc: The middle of somewhere else.

In the event that this draft turns out to be the final ruling, What specially does this "politically biased deviation from the constitution" draft ruling perform that is unconstitutional? It was not the courts job to establish a******n rules. It was their job to rule whether states could make a******ns illegal or severely restrictive. Even RBG thought that Roe vrs Wade went to far by writing law rather than forcing the states to hash it out.

woodguru

Actually I am of the opinion that American freedom is about americans having the same exact freedoms in one state they have in another.

Why are the freest states the poorest ones with the crappiest governments?

woodguru

The way this is written undermines civil rights in a way that can be attacked as applies to this ruling.

States could go after laws keeping companies from firing someone because they are gay, and a number of other things there is no reason to believe would not be attacked.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

Change it or live in a cave the rest of his life.
The lesson here is that the majority is unhappy living under a minority rule system all the time . California has
47 Million People but only 2 senators. North Dakota has 1.7 Million and they get 2 senators. It’s warped right down the line in the flyover states. No people but 2 senators.
80% think roe should be left alone.
5 people decided they would change it anyway .
Wh**ever could go wrong there.
That very same 80% think we should have Medicare For All !
We don’t.
Why exactly is that ?
The will of the people is being ignored.
Plain and simple.
If we are no longer a democracy then let’s get shredding the Stars and Stripes, all of them.
Let’s Hoist up the swastikas or or wh**ever lame excuse for a f**g like the one with the snake on it.
Let’s get on with it.
Let’s make it real. This country has failed to support the citizens of this country who have fought and died to keep it free of c****es , N**is, Marxist’s, stalinists , lenninists, Putinists , the Trumpists were v**ed out last e******n.
Anyone care to march in a Loyalty Day Parade ?
I didn’t think so.
No loyalty here especially from the right.
Oh they have loyalty but not to this president , this country , the citizens of this country, the Constitution,
The 233 years we have been free, with liberty and justice for all.
Say goodbye, assaches.
You only have yourselves to blame.
The scariest part is the fact that these people who are trying so hard to win for Donald will get nothing from him either. Sure he tells them he loves them but really couldn’t care less.
They love him , but he doesn’t love them back.
Unrequited Love is so sad.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

I am positive the leaker was a Republican, floated it out there to see how many would be strung up for this ruling.
Not the calm come along and go along they thought.
So, yes, I think they will keep it in the air as long as they can, and then change it.

Bevvy

Now that is AN IDEA .... so if I get a conceal carry permit in Florida ; New York would be required to honor it ??