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May 3, 2022 13:22:41   #
woodguru
 
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from happening are already assigning criminal prosecutions to women who get an a******n and anyone who aids and abets, assists in any way. Texas has already seen the attempt to charge a young woman with homicide under questionable circumstances, a nurse turning her in for the $10k bounty on doing that.

Does assistance cut off the ability for a woman or girl to even have anyone to talk to, what is someone supposed to do if a woman confides in someone, turn them in for thinking about it?

Then we have states trying to close up a loophole of going to another state. This can get truly Machiavellian...a woman goes out of town to visit relatives, go on a vacation, and they are turned in for a suspected a******n, the person doing this not having anything to go by but the person's absence for awhile. So this woman is subjected to a medical exam to determine if they were pregnant, and yes this is a thing?

Then we get to how many women naturally have miscarriages, the number is huge, especially during the first three months. My mother had three or four miscarriages trying to have my youngest sister with my stepdad.

So here we get to a thought police dark age. I have live in neighborhoods where there are nasty busybody women who carry grudges. How about a woman who wants to have a child, neighbors know they are pregnant, but they miscarry? We will have overzealous people because that is what happens with religious issues that people feel this strongly about.

This crap is going to get out of control. How about the woman in the hospital turned in for trying to abort, how would anyone know, miscarriages happen all the time.

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May 3, 2022 13:35:02   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
woodguru wrote:
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from happening are already assigning criminal prosecutions to women who get an a******n and anyone who aids and abets, assists in any way. Texas has already seen the attempt to charge a young woman with homicide under questionable circumstances, a nurse turning her in for the $10k bounty on doing that.

Does assistance cut off the ability for a woman or girl to even have anyone to talk to, what is someone supposed to do if a woman confides in someone, turn them in for thinking about it?

Then we have states trying to close up a loophole of going to another state. This can get truly Machiavellian...a woman goes out of town to visit relatives, go on a vacation, and they are turned in for a suspected a******n, the person doing this not having anything to go by but the person's absence for awhile. So this woman is subjected to a medical exam to determine if they were pregnant, and yes this is a thing?

Then we get to how many women naturally have miscarriages, the number is huge, especially during the first three months. My mother had three or four miscarriages trying to have my youngest sister with my stepdad.

So here we get to a thought police dark age. I have live in neighborhoods where there are nasty busybody women who carry grudges. How about a woman who wants to have a child, neighbors know they are pregnant, but they miscarry? We will have overzealous people because that is what happens with religious issues that people feel this strongly about.

This crap is going to get out of control. How about the woman in the hospital turned in for trying to abort, how would anyone know, miscarriages happen all the time.
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from ha... (show quote)


I went to know who us going to pay for this irresponsible idea?
If they want more babies , all they need to us ask , and provide at least some sort of assistance.
The ass backwards republicans are putting the baby before the cart.
There are plenty of women who would gladly have babies , but they smfont want to live under a bridge to accomplish this.
If they want babies , just ask . And write some checks.
What’s all the hubbub ???

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May 3, 2022 14:39:08   #
robertv3
 
woodguru wrote:
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from happening are already assigning criminal prosecutions to women who get an a******n and anyone who aids and abets, assists in any way. Texas has already seen the attempt to charge a young woman with homicide under questionable circumstances, a nurse turning her in for the $10k bounty on doing that.

Does assistance cut off the ability for a woman or girl to even have anyone to talk to, what is someone supposed to do if a woman confides in someone, turn them in for thinking about it?

Then we have states trying to close up a loophole of going to another state. This can get truly Machiavellian...a woman goes out of town to visit relatives, go on a vacation, and they are turned in for a suspected a******n, the person doing this not having anything to go by but the person's absence for awhile. So this woman is subjected to a medical exam to determine if they were pregnant, and yes this is a thing?

Then we get to how many women naturally have miscarriages, the number is huge, especially during the first three months. My mother had three or four miscarriages trying to have my youngest sister with my stepdad.

So here we get to a thought police dark age. I have live in neighborhoods where there are nasty busybody women who carry grudges. How about a woman who wants to have a child, neighbors know they are pregnant, but they miscarry? We will have overzealous people because that is what happens with religious issues that people feel this strongly about.

This crap is going to get out of control. How about the woman in the hospital turned in for trying to abort, how would anyone know, miscarriages happen all the time.
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from ha... (show quote)


Well said!

Your title "We Are Headed For A Dark Place Of Medical Inquisitions And Invasions Of Privacy" looked like it could have been written by a "Republican-politically-Conservative-Rightwing" person. But at the time I read it, only you and Milosia2 had written.

"Inquisitions" and "Privacy" look like issues the "Republican-politically-Conservative-Rightwing" people would be concerned about. But they apply those words to _other_ things, not to these things related to a******ns.

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May 3, 2022 15:03:04   #
robertv3
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I went to know who us going to pay for this irresponsible idea?
If they want more babies , all they need to us ask , and provide at least some sort of assistance.
The ass backwards republicans are putting the baby before the cart.
There are plenty of women who would gladly have babies , but they smfont want to live under a bridge to accomplish this.
If they want babies , just ask . And write some checks.
What’s all the hubbub ???


"who us going to pay for this irresponsible idea?"

The state government, and therefore the tax payers, are going to pay for this irresponsible idea. Remember the $10,000 bounties. That's the money which is gotten from the taxpayers and then given to the people who turn their neighbors, friends, and patients in for even questionable cases.

I guess one could call it a perfect storm brewing to make a lot of corruption. Here are 3 factors I see, from the Original Post, all creating a bad storm:

1. Money (tellingly associated with evil, traditionally, and rightly so, I think)

Example: "a nurse turning her in for the $10k bounty"

2. true paranoia (fear based on t***h: your neighbor really might turn you in, if you deviate so much as to have a miscarriage or ask the wrong questions) and the loss of discussion

To wit: "the ability for a woman or girl to even have anyone to talk to, what is someone supposed to do if a woman confides in someone, turn them in for thinking about it"

3. religion (may be good among people who share the exact same religion, but often harmful otherwise): "religious issues"

I have friends and relatives who are religious and are good people, BUT religion often doesn't work that way with a lot of people. While religion can be good in some ways, for some people, it's also a ready-made excuse for all kinds of stupidity and cruelty.

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May 3, 2022 15:07:33   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
robertv3 wrote:
"who us going to pay for this irresponsible idea?"

The state government, and therefore the tax payers, are going to pay for this irresponsible idea. Remember the $10,000 bounties. That's the money which is gotten from the taxpayers and then given to the people who turn their neighbors, friends, and patients in for even questionable cases.

I guess one could call it a perfect storm brewing to make a lot of corruption. Here are 3 factors I see, from the Original Post, all creating a bad storm:

1. Money (tellingly associated with evil, traditionally, and rightly so, I think)

Example: "a nurse turning her in for the $10k bounty"

2. true paranoia (fear based on t***h: your neighbor really might turn you in, if you deviate so much as to have a miscarriage or ask the wrong questions) and the loss of discussion

To wit: "the ability for a woman or girl to even have anyone to talk to, what is someone supposed to do if a woman confides in someone, turn them in for thinking about it"

3. religion (may be good among people who share the exact same religion, but often harmful otherwise): "religious issues"

I have friends and relatives who are religious and are good people, BUT religion often doesn't work that way with a lot of people. While religion can be good in some ways, for some people, it's also a ready-made excuse for all kinds of stupidity and cruelty.
"who us going to pay for this irresponsible i... (show quote)



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May 3, 2022 15:09:52   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
woodguru wrote:
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from happening are already assigning criminal prosecutions to women who get an a******n and anyone who aids and abets, assists in any way. Texas has already seen the attempt to charge a young woman with homicide under questionable circumstances, a nurse turning her in for the $10k bounty on doing that.

Does assistance cut off the ability for a woman or girl to even have anyone to talk to, what is someone supposed to do if a woman confides in someone, turn them in for thinking about it?

Then we have states trying to close up a loophole of going to another state. This can get truly Machiavellian...a woman goes out of town to visit relatives, go on a vacation, and they are turned in for a suspected a******n, the person doing this not having anything to go by but the person's absence for awhile. So this woman is subjected to a medical exam to determine if they were pregnant, and yes this is a thing?

Then we get to how many women naturally have miscarriages, the number is huge, especially during the first three months. My mother had three or four miscarriages trying to have my youngest sister with my stepdad.

So here we get to a thought police dark age. I have live in neighborhoods where there are nasty busybody women who carry grudges. How about a woman who wants to have a child, neighbors know they are pregnant, but they miscarry? We will have overzealous people because that is what happens with religious issues that people feel this strongly about.

This crap is going to get out of control. How about the woman in the hospital turned in for trying to abort, how would anyone know, miscarriages happen all the time.
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from ha... (show quote)


And Biden's "Ministry of T***h" isn't?

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May 3, 2022 15:11:28   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I went to know who us going to pay for this irresponsible idea?
If they want more babies , all they need to us ask , and provide at least some sort of assistance.
The ass backwards republicans are putting the baby before the cart.
There are plenty of women who would gladly have babies , but they smfont want to live under a bridge to accomplish this.
If they want babies , just ask . And write some checks.
What’s all the hubbub ???


How does RvW figure? It isn't a law that specifically endorses a******n.

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May 3, 2022 16:41:12   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from happening are already assigning criminal prosecutions to women who get an a******n and anyone who aids and abets, assists in any way. Texas has already seen the attempt to charge a young woman with homicide under questionable circumstances, a nurse turning her in for the $10k bounty on doing that.

Does assistance cut off the ability for a woman or girl to even have anyone to talk to, what is someone supposed to do if a woman confides in someone, turn them in for thinking about it?

Then we have states trying to close up a loophole of going to another state. This can get truly Machiavellian...a woman goes out of town to visit relatives, go on a vacation, and they are turned in for a suspected a******n, the person doing this not having anything to go by but the person's absence for awhile. So this woman is subjected to a medical exam to determine if they were pregnant, and yes this is a thing?

Then we get to how many women naturally have miscarriages, the number is huge, especially during the first three months. My mother had three or four miscarriages trying to have my youngest sister with my stepdad.

So here we get to a thought police dark age. I have live in neighborhoods where there are nasty busybody women who carry grudges. How about a woman who wants to have a child, neighbors know they are pregnant, but they miscarry? We will have overzealous people because that is what happens with religious issues that people feel this strongly about.

This crap is going to get out of control. How about the woman in the hospital turned in for trying to abort, how would anyone know, miscarriages happen all the time.
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from ha... (show quote)


Shut up dude.

You were perfectly fine with the government forcing people to take an experimental "v*****e" or be denied healthcare services, and other basic things like the ability to even acquire food.

So, just shut up.

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May 3, 2022 23:53:26   #
robertv3
 
archie bunker wrote:
Shut up dude.

You were perfectly fine with the government forcing people to take an experimental "v*****e" or be denied healthcare services, and other basic things like the ability to even acquire food.

So, just shut up.


You say "shut up" twice in the same post? Are you that familiar with that guy?

C***d v*****es are less risky than C***d.

I'm talking mainly about the first year or two of the p******c; I think the main C***d v***s variants now are less severe, but the basic principles of public health precautions are similar.

C***d and C***d v*****es are a public health issue, where what one person does affects many other people, so it's not just a personal rights issue.

Those who refuse to be v******ted to protect the people around them need to do a substitute action to protect the people around them. (This was especially true during the first year or two of the p******c when the C***d variants were definitely severe enough and risky enough that precautions were especially necessary.)

One possible substitute action would be to self-isolate.

But we have seen people refuse to be v******ted AND go out in public AND refuse to wear masks! That's too much. When they refuse to take any precautions to protect the people around them, not even masking, it's too much. It's a public health issue, where what one person does affects many other people, so it's not just a personal rights issue.

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May 4, 2022 00:04:54   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
robertv3 wrote:
You say "shut up" twice in the same post? Are you that familiar with that guy?

C***d v*****es are less risky than C***d.

I'm talking mainly about the first year or two of the p******c; I think the main C***d v***s variants now are less severe, but the basic principles of public health precautions are similar.

C***d and C***d v*****es are a public health issue, where what one person does affects many other people, so it's not just a personal rights issue.

Those who refuse to be v******ted to protect the people around them need to do a substitute action to protect the people around them. (This was especially true during the first year or two of the p******c when the C***d variants were definitely severe enough and risky enough that precautions were especially necessary.)

One possible substitute action would be to self-isolate.

But we have seen people refuse to be v******ted AND go out in public AND refuse to wear masks! That's too much. When they refuse to take any precautions to protect the people around them, not even masking, it's too much. It's a public health issue, where what one person does affects many other people, so it's not just a personal rights issue.
You say "shut up" twice in the same post... (show quote)

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May 4, 2022 00:06:40   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from happening are already assigning criminal prosecutions to women who get an a******n and anyone who aids and abets, assists in any way. Texas has already seen the attempt to charge a young woman with homicide under questionable circumstances, a nurse turning her in for the $10k bounty on doing that.

Does assistance cut off the ability for a woman or girl to even have anyone to talk to, what is someone supposed to do if a woman confides in someone, turn them in for thinking about it?

Then we have states trying to close up a loophole of going to another state. This can get truly Machiavellian...a woman goes out of town to visit relatives, go on a vacation, and they are turned in for a suspected a******n, the person doing this not having anything to go by but the person's absence for awhile. So this woman is subjected to a medical exam to determine if they were pregnant, and yes this is a thing?

Then we get to how many women naturally have miscarriages, the number is huge, especially during the first three months. My mother had three or four miscarriages trying to have my youngest sister with my stepdad.

So here we get to a thought police dark age. I have live in neighborhoods where there are nasty busybody women who carry grudges. How about a woman who wants to have a child, neighbors know they are pregnant, but they miscarry? We will have overzealous people because that is what happens with religious issues that people feel this strongly about.

This crap is going to get out of control. How about the woman in the hospital turned in for trying to abort, how would anyone know, miscarriages happen all the time.
Red states that want to keep any a******ns from ha... (show quote)
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May 4, 2022 09:05:05   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
robertv3 wrote:
You say "shut up" twice in the same post? Are you that familiar with that guy?

C***d v*****es are less risky than C***d.

I'm talking mainly about the first year or two of the p******c; I think the main C***d v***s variants now are less severe, but the basic principles of public health precautions are similar.

C***d and C***d v*****es are a public health issue, where what one person does affects many other people, so it's not just a personal rights issue.

Those who refuse to be v******ted to protect the people around them need to do a substitute action to protect the people around them. (This was especially true during the first year or two of the p******c when the C***d variants were definitely severe enough and risky enough that precautions were especially necessary.)

One possible substitute action would be to self-isolate.

But we have seen people refuse to be v******ted AND go out in public AND refuse to wear masks! That's too much. When they refuse to take any precautions to protect the people around them, not even masking, it's too much. It's a public health issue, where what one person does affects many other people, so it's not just a personal rights issue.
You say "shut up" twice in the same post... (show quote)


And then it turns out that people who have had 3, or 4 shots are still getting, and spreading c***d.
Makes what you just said meaningless.

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May 4, 2022 09:27:20   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I went to know who us going to pay for this irresponsible idea?


Make all pro a******n folks foot the bill for people that are having irresponsible sex leading to unwanted pregnancies and demanding an a******n those are the ones that should be held accountable !

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May 4, 2022 11:47:14   #
EmilyD
 
robertv3 wrote:
You say "shut up" twice in the same post? Are you that familiar with that guy?

C***d v*****es are less risky than C***d.

I'm talking mainly about the first year or two of the p******c; I think the main C***d v***s variants now are less severe, but the basic principles of public health precautions are similar.

C***d and C***d v*****es are a public health issue, where what one person does affects many other people, so it's not just a personal rights issue.

Those who refuse to be v******ted to protect the people around them need to do a substitute action to protect the people around them. (This was especially true during the first year or two of the p******c when the C***d variants were definitely severe enough and risky enough that precautions were especially necessary.)

One possible substitute action would be to self-isolate.

But we have seen people refuse to be v******ted AND go out in public AND refuse to wear masks! That's too much. When they refuse to take any precautions to protect the people around them, not even masking, it's too much. It's a public health issue, where what one person does affects many other people, so it's not just a personal rights issue.
You say "shut up" twice in the same post... (show quote)

You are about a year behind in the times. The drugs that were pushed on you and everyone else who blindly ran out and "obeyed" the media and the government, is not a v*****e. No one has a list of the exact ingredients yet because they are still listed as experimental and have NOT been approved by the FDA. When they were rolled out they had not even been properly tested on human beings, thus making this one of the biggest clinical trials ever - with you and all the v******ted as the lab animals.....guinea pigs, if you want to call it what it is.

These drugs are not working. The first, second, third and now fourth shots have done nothing to keep anyone from getting C***d. There is no evidence that these drugs reduce the symptoms or lessen hospitalization with people (both v******ted and unv******ted) contracting C***d - that is a rumor that has never been proven to be true....it is simply a talking point for the left because you don't like the alternative. There is no evidence that these drugs do anything at all, except let the researchers who are running this experiment observe how you are all reacting to them. People are DYING and having lifetime permanent disabilities from this "experiment"!!!

If you are afraid of C***d, then YOU are the one who should stay at home - because it has been discovered the masks do nothing and neither do the drugs. All I can say is good luck to you. Hopefully you will be one of the lucky ones who don't have a reaction, but there are tens of thousands of people who are having a horrible time after getting these drugs injected into their bodies.

IMO, you have a better chance contracting the v***s (that has a 98.6% recovery rate) than injecting the drugs into you. You will be left with a very strong i****e s****m that will be well-equipped to handle this and other v***ses in the future - and you will not be dependent on drugs and "booster shots" every month or so.

Here is the link with the list of 1290+ potential side effects of the pharmaceutical drugs being touted as a v*****e, (but are not}: The list is called "Appendix 1 - List of A*****e E***ts of Special Interest" and starts on page 30 of the P****r report: https://phmpt.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf

https://www.medalerts.org/v***sdb/findfield.php?TABLE=ON&GROUP1=CAT&EVENTS=ON&VAX=C***D19

And here are the most current stats on the v*****e injuries and deaths (snip from above link):



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May 4, 2022 14:18:28   #
Ri-chard Loc: 23322
 
Milosia2 wrote:
I went to know who us going to pay for this irresponsible idea?
If they want more babies , all they need to us ask , and provide at least some sort of assistance.
The ass backwards republicans are putting the baby before the cart.
There are plenty of women who would gladly have babies , but they smfont want to live under a bridge to accomplish this.
If they want babies , just ask . And write some checks.
What’s all the hubbub ???


Nothing is stopping any irresponsible self-servicing woman from terminating their child's life in any state. Stop the lies.

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