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May 3, 2022 12:52:07   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Big Bass wrote:
That IS the left.


Love the Fetus , H**e the Child.!
That is the right !!!!!!!

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May 3, 2022 12:56:35   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Sonny Magoo wrote:
You're right.
It's in the Declaration of Independence.
Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as endowed by our CREATOR (GOD).
AND...new human life begins at conception.
...also the very last paragraph of the US Constitution mentions JESUS.
WHAT? you say...Look it up!


Declaration of Independence and the Christianity Myth
Does the Declaration of Independence Support Christianity?
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By Austin Cline
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Many have argued against the separation of church and state by pointing to the Declaration of Independence. They believe that the text of this document supports the position that the United States was founded upon religious, if not Christian, principles, and therefore church and state must remain intertwined for this nation to continue properly.


A Secular Document
There are a couple of flaws in this argument. For one thing, the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document for this nation. What this means is that it has no authority over our laws, our lawmakers, or ourselves. It cannot be cited as precedent or as being binding in a courtroom. The purpose of the Declaration of Independence was to make a moral case for dissolving the legal ties between the colonies and Great Britain; once that goal was achieved, the official role of the Declaration was finished.

That leaves open, however, the possibility that the document expressed the will of the same people who wrote the Constitution — thus, it provides knowledge about their intent as to what sort of government we should have. Leaving aside for the moment whether or not that intention should bind us, there are still serious flaws to consider. First, religion itself is never mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. This makes it difficult to argue that any particular religious principles should guide our current government.

Second, what little is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is only barely compatible with Christianity, the religion most people have in mind when making the above argument. The Declaration refers to “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.” These are all terms used in the sort of deism which was common among many of those responsible for the American Revolution as well as the philosophers upon whom they relied for support. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, was himself a deist who was opposed to many traditional Christian doctrines, in particular beliefs about the supernatural.


One common misuse of the Declaration of Independence is to argue that it states that our rights come from God and, therefore, there are no legitimate interpretations of the rights in the Constitution that would be contrary to God. The first problem is that the Declaration of Independence refers to a “Creator” and not the Christian “God” meant by people making the argument. The second problem is that the “rights” mentioned in the Declaration of Independence are “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” — none of which are “rights” discussed in the Constitution.

Finally, the Declaration of Independence also makes it clear that governments created by humanity derive their powers from the consent of the governed, not from any gods. This is why the Constitution does not make any mention of any gods. There is no reason to think that there is anything illegitimate about an interpretation of any of the rights outlined in the Constitution merely because it runs contrary to what some people think that their conception of a god would want.

What this all means is that arguments against the separation of church and state which rely upon the language of the Declaration of Independence fail. First, the document in question has no legal authority with which one could make a legal case. Second, the sentiments expressed therein do not support the principle that government should be guided either by any specific religion (like Christianity) or by religion “in general” (as if such a thing even existed).

* ***First, religion itself is never mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.**

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May 3, 2022 12:57:39   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Barbancon wrote:
Someone said “A******n is NOT mentioned in the Constitution anyplace.”

Correct. That is proof itself that the states never granted the power to regulate a******n to the Federal government. Congratulations! You just refuted Roe v Wade yourself.

Someone said “Separation of church and state is fundamental.” Wrong. If it were fundamental it would have been expressly enumerated in our founding documents.

The t***h is the United States of America was full of tax-funded state churches in the 18th and 19th centuries. The constitution only prohibits the Federal government from establishing churches. State churches are 100% constitutional. The founders believed you could not have freedom without the right to worship freely, an that included the right to state sponsored churches. The Roman Catholic Church was the state church of the state of Maryland, and the Congregational Church was the state church in much of New England. If you were an American instead of a l*****t (anti-American) you would know these things.
Someone said “A******n is NOT mentioned in the Con... (show quote)



Declaration of Independence and the Christianity Myth
Does the Declaration of Independence Support Christianity?
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By Austin Cline
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Many have argued against the separation of church and state by pointing to the Declaration of Independence. They believe that the text of this document supports the position that the United States was founded upon religious, if not Christian, principles, and therefore church and state must remain intertwined for this nation to continue properly.


A Secular Document
There are a couple of flaws in this argument. For one thing, the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document for this nation. What this means is that it has no authority over our laws, our lawmakers, or ourselves. It cannot be cited as precedent or as being binding in a courtroom. The purpose of the Declaration of Independence was to make a moral case for dissolving the legal ties between the colonies and Great Britain; once that goal was achieved, the official role of the Declaration was finished.

That leaves open, however, the possibility that the document expressed the will of the same people who wrote the Constitution — thus, it provides knowledge about their intent as to what sort of government we should have. Leaving aside for the moment whether or not that intention should bind us, there are still serious flaws to consider. First, religion itself is never mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. This makes it difficult to argue that any particular religious principles should guide our current government.

Second, what little is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is only barely compatible with Christianity, the religion most people have in mind when making the above argument. The Declaration refers to “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.” These are all terms used in the sort of deism which was common among many of those responsible for the American Revolution as well as the philosophers upon whom they relied for support. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, was himself a deist who was opposed to many traditional Christian doctrines, in particular beliefs about the supernatural.


One common misuse of the Declaration of Independence is to argue that it states that our rights come from God and, therefore, there are no legitimate interpretations of the rights in the Constitution that would be contrary to God. The first problem is that the Declaration of Independence refers to a “Creator” and not the Christian “God” meant by people making the argument. The second problem is that the “rights” mentioned in the Declaration of Independence are “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” — none of which are “rights” discussed in the Constitution.

Finally, the Declaration of Independence also makes it clear that governments created by humanity derive their powers from the consent of the governed, not from any gods. This is why the Constitution does not make any mention of any gods. There is no reason to think that there is anything illegitimate about an interpretation of any of the rights outlined in the Constitution merely because it runs contrary to what some people think that their conception of a god would want.

What this all means is that arguments against the separation of church and state which rely upon the language of the Declaration of Independence fail. First, the document in question has no legal authority with which one could make a legal case. Second, the sentiments expressed therein do not support the principle that government should be guided either by any specific religion (like Christianity) or by religion “in general” (as if such a thing even existed).

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May 3, 2022 12:58:45   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
You are correct! People don’t understand what they’re doing when they’re k*****g the baby. Innocent lives lost will happen, but don’t do it on purpose. Or else!


Oh I’m sure they know what they’re doing . And it doesn’t concern you whatsoever.

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May 3, 2022 13:03:56   #
Bevvy
 
Milosia2 wrote:
It isn’t murder until it’s a person.

Declaration of Independence and the Christianity Myth
Does the Declaration of Independence Support Christianity?

Declaration of Independence
Greg V**e, VStock LLC/Creative RF / Getty Images

By Austin Cline
Updated on July 29, 2018
Many have argued against the separation of church and state by pointing to the Declaration of Independence. They believe that the text of this document supports the position that the United States was founded upon religious, if not Christian, principles, and therefore church and state must remain intertwined for this nation to continue properly.


A Secular Document
There are a couple of flaws in this argument. For one thing, the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document for this nation. What this means is that it has no authority over our laws, our lawmakers, or ourselves. It cannot be cited as precedent or as being binding in a courtroom. The purpose of the Declaration of Independence was to make a moral case for dissolving the legal ties between the colonies and Great Britain; once that goal was achieved, the official role of the Declaration was finished.

That leaves open, however, the possibility that the document expressed the will of the same people who wrote the Constitution — thus, it provides knowledge about their intent as to what sort of government we should have. Leaving aside for the moment whether or not that intention should bind us, there are still serious flaws to consider. First, religion itself is never mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. This makes it difficult to argue that any particular religious principles should guide our current government.

Second, what little is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is only barely compatible with Christianity, the religion most people have in mind when making the above argument. The Declaration refers to “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.” These are all terms used in the sort of deism which was common among many of those responsible for the American Revolution as well as the philosophers upon whom they relied for support. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, was himself a deist who was opposed to many traditional Christian doctrines, in particular beliefs about the supernatural.


One common misuse of the Declaration of Independence is to argue that it states that our rights come from God and, therefore, there are no legitimate interpretations of the rights in the Constitution that would be contrary to God. The first problem is that the Declaration of Independence refers to a “Creator” and not the Christian “God” meant by people making the argument. The second problem is that the “rights” mentioned in the Declaration of Independence are “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” — none of which are “rights” discussed in the Constitution.

Finally, the Declaration of Independence also makes it clear that governments created by humanity derive their powers from the consent of the governed, not from any gods. This is why the Constitution does not make any mention of any gods. There is no reason to think that there is anything illegitimate about an interpretation of any of the rights outlined in the Constitution merely because it runs contrary to what some people think that their conception of a god would want.

What this all means is that arguments against the separation of church and state which rely upon the language of the Declaration of Independence fail. First, the document in question has no legal authority with which one could make a legal case. Second, the sentiments expressed therein do not support the principle that government should be guided either by any specific religion (like Christianity) or by religion “in general” (as if such a thing even existed).

** One common misuse of the Declaration of Independence is to argue that it states that our rights come from God and, therefore, there are no legitimate interpretations of the rights in the Constitution that would be contrary to God**
It isn’t murder until it’s a person. br br Decla... (show quote)


Would this be murder in your eyes ? ? ?

https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-a******n-would-proceed

if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.

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May 3, 2022 13:08:58   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Bevvy wrote:
Would this be murder in your eyes ? ? ?

https://cnsnews.com/news/article/emily-ward/virginia-governor-describes-how-post-birth-a******n-would-proceed

if a mother is in labor, I can tell you exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered. The infant would be kept comfortable. The infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.


How many in history ?
The exception and not the Rule.
And that’s when they are the tastiest.

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May 3, 2022 13:14:00   #
Bevvy
 
Milosia2 wrote:
How many in history ?
The exception and not the Rule.
And that’s when they are the tastiest.



Are you five foot tall ?
Do you drive a blue car ?
did you catch that baseball ?

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May 3, 2022 13:43:15   #
Big Bass
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Republicans love the Fetus , H**e the Child.

Declaration of Independence and the Christianity Myth

Does the Declaration of Independence Support Christianity?

Declaration of Independence
Greg V**e, VStock LLC/Creative RF / Getty Images

By Austin Cline
Updated on July 29, 2018
Many have argued against the separation of church and state by pointing to the Declaration of Independence. They believe that the text of this document supports the position that the United States was founded upon religious, if not Christian, principles, and therefore church and state must remain intertwined for this nation to continue properly.


A Secular Document
There are a couple of flaws in this argument. For one thing, the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document for this nation. What this means is that it has no authority over our laws, our lawmakers, or ourselves. It cannot be cited as precedent or as being binding in a courtroom. The purpose of the Declaration of Independence was to make a moral case for dissolving the legal ties between the colonies and Great Britain; once that goal was achieved, the official role of the Declaration was finished.

That leaves open, however, the possibility that the document expressed the will of the same people who wrote the Constitution — thus, it provides knowledge about their intent as to what sort of government we should have. Leaving aside for the moment whether or not that intention should bind us, there are still serious flaws to consider. First, religion itself is never mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. This makes it difficult to argue that any particular religious principles should guide our current government.

Second, what little is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is only barely compatible with Christianity, the religion most people have in mind when making the above argument. The Declaration refers to “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.” These are all terms used in the sort of deism which was common among many of those responsible for the American Revolution as well as the philosophers upon whom they relied for support. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, was himself a deist who was opposed to many traditional Christian doctrines, in particular beliefs about the supernatural.


One common misuse of the Declaration of Independence is to argue that it states that our rights come from God and, therefore, there are no legitimate interpretations of the rights in the Constitution that would be contrary to God. The first problem is that the Declaration of Independence refers to a “Creator” and not the Christian “God” meant by people making the argument. The second problem is that the “rights” mentioned in the Declaration of Independence are “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” — none of which are “rights” discussed in the Constitution.


The Declaration of Independence is not a valid document for anything other than being a letter written to England.
Once delivered it was finished.
It is not a legal document for anything concerning our laws.
Here it is :

Declaration of Independence and the Christianity Myth
Does the Declaration of Independence Support Christianity?
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Declaration of Independence
Greg V**e, VStock LLC/Creative RF / Getty Images

By Austin Cline
Updated on July 29, 2018
Many have argued against the separation of church and state by pointing to the Declaration of Independence. They believe that the text of this document supports the position that the United States was founded upon religious, if not Christian, principles, and therefore church and state must remain intertwined for this nation to continue properly.


A Secular Document
There are a couple of flaws in this argument. For one thing, the Declaration of Independence is not a legal document for this nation. What this means is that it has no authority over our laws, our lawmakers, or ourselves. It cannot be cited as precedent or as being binding in a courtroom. The purpose of the Declaration of Independence was to make a moral case for dissolving the legal ties between the colonies and Great Britain; once that goal was achieved, the official role of the Declaration was finished.

That leaves open, however, the possibility that the document expressed the will of the same people who wrote the Constitution — thus, it provides knowledge about their intent as to what sort of government we should have. Leaving aside for the moment whether or not that intention should bind us, there are still serious flaws to consider. First, religion itself is never mentioned in the Declaration of Independence. This makes it difficult to argue that any particular religious principles should guide our current government.

Second, what little is mentioned in the Declaration of Independence is only barely compatible with Christianity, the religion most people have in mind when making the above argument. The Declaration refers to “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence.” These are all terms used in the sort of deism which was common among many of those responsible for the American Revolution as well as the philosophers upon whom they relied for support. Thomas Jefferson, the author of the Declaration of Independence, was himself a deist who was opposed to many traditional Christian doctrines, in particular beliefs about the supernatural.


One common misuse of the Declaration of Independence is to argue that it states that our rights come from God and, therefore, there are no legitimate interpretations of the rights in the Constitution that would be contrary to God. The first problem is that the Declaration of Independence refers to a “Creator” and not the Christian “God” meant by people making the argument. The second problem is that the “rights” mentioned in the Declaration of Independence are “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” — none of which are “rights” discussed in the Constitution.

Finally, the Declaration of Independence also makes it clear that governments created by humanity derive their powers from the consent of the governed, not from any gods. This is why the Constitution does not make any mention of any gods. There is no reason to think that there is anything illegitimate about an interpretation of any of the rights outlined in the Constitution merely because it runs contrary to what some people think that their conception of a god would want.

What this all means is that arguments against the separation of church and state which rely upon the language of the Declaration of Independence fail. First, the document in question has no legal authority with which one could make a legal case. Second, the sentiments expressed therein do not support the principle that government should be guided either by any specific religion (like Christianity) or by religion “in general” (as if such a thing even existed).
Republicans love the Fetus , H**e the Child. br ... (show quote)


What a h**e-filled c*******t you are - a b***h first class. I don’t h**e any child, and I see no decent republican hating children, either. That makes you a fat liar.

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May 3, 2022 13:48:53   #
Big Bass
 
Milosia2 wrote:
Love the Fetus , H**e the Child.!
That is the right !!!!!!!


That is you and your vile, c****e ilk.

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May 3, 2022 14:34:32   #
Barbancon
 
‘Separation of church and state’ is always misconstrued by left wing plebeians.

Our constitution merely prohibits the Fed gov from establishing a state religion. The states are free to establish tax-funded state churches as they did throughout the United States in the 18th and 19th centuries. New England had tax-funded protestant congregational state churches while catholic Maryland had a state-sponsored Roman Catholic church. You l*****t rabble wouldn’t know that because you are not from here and never assimilated. Go back to your third-world s**tholes where you belong.

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May 3, 2022 14:54:52   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Big Bass wrote:
What a h**e-filled c*******t you are - a b***h first class. I don’t h**e any child, and I see no decent republican hating children, either. That makes you a fat liar.


What is the rights plan?
They are against any assistance for women with children. Why ?
If they want more babies come up with a plan that encourages having babies.
It’s either a brave woman or a rich woman that will have a baby these days .
Not many are willing to bring children into a world filled with greed and deceit.
Without a solid foundation or a promising future, what’s the point.????
The right is totally responsible for this .
Rather than change the rights d********g behavior toward women they opt to force women to have babies. And force them to pay for these babies entirely by themselves.
They do
Love the Fetuses
But
H**e the Children !

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May 3, 2022 14:57:25   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Big Bass wrote:
What a h**e-filled c*******t you are - a b***h first class. I don’t h**e any child, and I see no decent republican hating children, either. That makes you a fat liar.


I am not a liar because you can’t read.

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May 3, 2022 14:59:02   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Bevvy wrote:
Are you five foot tall ?
Do you drive a blue car ?
did you catch that baseball ?


Huh?

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May 3, 2022 15:07:28   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Milosia2 wrote:
How many in history ?
The exception and not the Rule.
And that’s when they are the tastiest.


How can you tell me exactly how things will turn out.
Are you a psychic ?
Can you see the future?
Are you a Q***n?????

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May 3, 2022 15:41:43   #
Big Bass
 
Milosia2 wrote:
What is the rights plan?
They are against any assistance for women with children. Why ?
If they want more babies come up with a plan that encourages having babies.
It’s either a brave woman or a rich woman that will have a baby these days .
Not many are willing to bring children into a world filled with greed and deceit.
Without a solid foundation or a promising future, what’s the point.????
The right is totally responsible for this .
Rather than change the rights d********g behavior toward women they opt to force women to have babies. And force them to pay for these babies entirely by themselves.
They do
Love the Fetuses
But
H**e the Children !
What is the rights plan? br They are against any a... (show quote)

You are the ones advocating for “a******n” after the child is born. I guess you are deaf, because you didn’t hear the right shouting against it. and, yes, you are a very fat liar.

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