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Apr 18, 2022 06:25:03   #
Big dog
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I believe old Pistoff Pete is dumping a hefty load of angry sarcasm.
He can be terribly irrational at times.


Remember the movie ‘On The Beach’ ?

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Apr 18, 2022 06:57:26   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
PeterS wrote:
So, you think that if Putin wants to end the world he can be provoked into doing it? If that was his goal then he already would have done it and we wouldn't be here to argue about it...would we!

Putin is a bully and the thinks he can intimidate anyone into doing his bidding. With Trump, he didn't need to because he was like a puppy following at Putie's feet. But Bidens a Democrat and while Putin was able to get Obama to kowtow, Biden isn't Obama, no matter what our conservative friends might think. So what did Biden do and say when he was one on one with Putin? We don't know which is why conservatives are so afraid. But like I say, if Putin wanted to end the world he already would have found cause to do it. Putie wouldn't have waited till now to do what he had planned to do all along. No, if Putie wanted full-scale thermonuclear war, all he had to do was to launch that first missile.

So it's safe to assume that Putie doesn't want a war else we would have been vaporized by now and we wouldn't even know it.
So, you think that if Putin wants to end the world... (show quote)


Is that why he waited to invade Ukraine until Biden got into office? You Dems are just to funny for words.

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Apr 18, 2022 07:42:28   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
Is that why he waited to invade Ukraine until Biden got into office? You Dems are just to funny for words.



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Apr 18, 2022 09:05:10   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
So, you think that if Putin wants to end the world he can be provoked into doing it? If that was his goal then he already would have done it and we wouldn't be here to argue about it...would we!

Putin is a bully and the thinks he can intimidate anyone into doing his bidding. With Trump, he didn't need to because he was like a puppy following at Putie's feet. But Bidens a Democrat and while Putin was able to get Obama to kowtow, Biden isn't Obama, no matter what our conservative friends might think. So what did Biden do and say when he was one on one with Putin? We don't know which is why conservatives are so afraid. But like I say, if Putin wanted to end the world he already would have found cause to do it. Putie wouldn't have waited till now to do what he had planned to do all along. No, if Putie wanted full-scale thermonuclear war, all he had to do was to launch that first missile.

So it's safe to assume that Putie doesn't want a war else we would have been vaporized by now and we wouldn't even know it.
So, you think that if Putin wants to end the world... (show quote)


Who said Putin wants to end the world? Do you know something the rest of us don't?

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Apr 18, 2022 09:07:59   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
newbear wrote:
No, I refuse to be afraid of a nuclear disaster. The unbearable suspense of waiting for the first desperado to end so-called "human condition" had been nerve wracking.

Mankind has practically banned a peaceful use of the nuclear energy because of precisely such fears, but nuclear armament and the threats to use it are marching on.

Let's get it over with, okay?


Don't sit in frear of it, but don't invite it. Zelensky is inviting it. I say that's not his right.

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Apr 18, 2022 09:14:30   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
PeterS wrote:
Aren't you the one who's arguing that Putin is going to go ballistic? Well, wouldn't that warrant a first strike with our subs in the Arctic that could takeout much of Russia before Putin could think to react? Then we could finish Russia off with our land launched ballistic missiles and in under an hour, Russia would be nothing but a pile of rubble. Then fly in our B2's and take out anything left standing!

I mean don't make the argument that Putin is out to get us only to pull back when a first strike is the most practical option! So nuke em. From what we've seen of their military it is no match for Western technology so we need to take advantage while we can! Because Putin now thinks he's the biggest stud in town so he would never expect Biden to pull a first strike--meaning that Biden needs to do just that because this is war and his country needs him to lead and eliminate Russia as a threat from here on out. Can I get an Amen! Ubetcha, let us get rid of those Ruskies now and forever! Whew!!!
Aren't you the one who's arguing that Putin is goi... (show quote)


You sound irrational. Fire just one at Russia and Russia automatically fires every single one. It's called the death hand. They would all be in the air before the first one even hit.

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Apr 18, 2022 09:18:25   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
I read three times Richard Rhodes extraordinary science history, The Making of the Atomic Bomb. When you read what the scientists themselves had to say about what they were doing and the monster they created, it gives one pause when thinking about a nuclear war.

In reply to his CO's ribbing about who the enemy might be, Commander H****r (Denzel Washington, Crimson Tide) said "In my humble opinion, in a nuclear world, the real enemy is war itself."


Exactly.

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Apr 18, 2022 09:21:39   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
dtucker300 wrote:
It's above my pay grade as I have no control over what others may do. I can only take responsibility for my own actions. I refuse to worry about something I have no control over. But I will try to influence others to not be stupid. We have had nuclear weapons since before I was born. I'll bet that Ukraine regrets giving up all of its nuclear warheads. The empty promise from Russia, Great Britain, and the United States rings hollow at this point. We have inadvertently signaled to Iran that if they want to be left alone and secure to not be threatened by other countries they need to build a nuclear weapon. North Korea did it to prevent a regime change.
It's above my pay grade as I have no control over ... (show quote)


I think you are right but then, seeing Zelensky in action, would you feel secure knowing he has nukes? He is doing all he can to get us fully into it. We cannot go there and feeding him more and more weapons is aggravating the entire situation, as if we already are at war with Russia.

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Apr 18, 2022 09:22:09   #
Bevvy
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
You should be!!!!!!!!!!!! You really, really should be.

We didn't provoke Russia into trying to put nuclear tipped rockets in Cuba but we ARE provoking Putin now.

IT IS STUPID!!!!!!!!


No , not afraid , this is what putin wants you to be , and I refuse to give in to his desires

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Apr 18, 2022 09:22:28   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Easy enough for you to say... How old are you???

Some of us intend to enjoy the world a bit longer...

Take your war mongering and stick it where it belongs...

FYI: You are coming across as the unstable one here...


Peter is irrational as a result of his h**e.

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Apr 18, 2022 09:23:58   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
iFrank wrote:
👍 On the same page on this quagmire, that biden is wishy-washy on, with him being a puppet there is no telling on bad he’ll give up when the whispering starts and a blank piece of paper is signed into an EO. Then we have trolls that want to spread keyboard courage on war acceptance. Unfreaking believable.


It's the result of pure h**e. Trump h**e and now, Putin h**e. It is all the l*****ts really have.

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Apr 18, 2022 10:30:46   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I think you are right but then, seeing Zelensky in action, would you feel secure knowing he has nukes? He is doing all he can to get us fully into it. We cannot go there and feeding him more and more weapons is aggravating the entire situation, as if we already are at war with Russia.


I'd feel more secure than if Iran had nukes.

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Apr 18, 2022 10:31:40   #
okie don
 
Act with logic and reason, not emotion.

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Apr 18, 2022 10:32:27   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
dtucker300 wrote:
I'd feel more secure than if Iran had nukes.


Both shouldn't have one or some. Iran would surely use it and so would Zelensky.

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Apr 18, 2022 10:45:49   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Both shouldn't have one or some. Iran would surely use it and so would Zelensky.


And yet, Zelenskyy doesn't have any, and Russia has thousands. The current real threat comes from Russia.

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