The battle over Donbas will be like World War II, said Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba. The fight for Donbas most likely will be similar to World War II, with major operations and maneuvers involving thousands of tanks, armored vehicles, aircraft, and artillery. “It will not be a local operation. Given what we see, Russia has its plan, we have our own, and the outcome of this battle will be decided on the battlefield," said Kuleba after meeting NATO foreign ministers in Brussels. He stressed that it is now crucial that their NATO allies do not tell Ukraine that they are still thinking and must follow all the procedures and that many problems must be resolved before they can decide. But, he added, “Either you help us now, and I'm talking about days, not weeks, or your help will come too late, causing thousands of deaths.”
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We break through walls to obtain military assistance. The Minister for Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Dmytro Kuleba, said that the problem Ukraine faces is its Western partners’ unwillingness to take specific steps when they are already desperately needed. Dmytro Kuleba noted that he appreciates and is grateful to all partners, but in the issue of military assistance to Ukraine, he constantly has had to "break through the walls." The first wall was that they were not ready to give us weapons. Well, we "broke" that. The next wall - "we will give you light weapons, but not heavy." We broke that, too. Then, until recently, we were told that “we are ready to provide defensive weapons, but not offensive ones.” In the first week of the war, I asked foreign ministers if their country would be able to give us some advanced, modern armaments. They said: "Dmytro, this is difficult because operators need to be trained for two months." If they had agreed to provide these weapons to Ukraine at the beginning, our military would be using them now.
We break through walls to obtain military assistance. The Minister for Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Dmytro Kuleba, said that the problem Ukraine faces is its Western partners’ unwillingness to take specific steps when they are already desperately needed. Dmytro Kuleba noted that he appreciates and is grateful to all partners, but in the issue of military assistance to Ukraine, he constantly has had to "break through the walls." The first wall was that they were not ready to give us weapons. Well, we "broke" that. The next wall - "we will give you light weapons, but not heavy." We broke that, too. Then, until recently, we were told that “we are ready to provide defensive weapons, but not offensive ones.” In the first week of the war, I asked foreign ministers if their country would be able to give us some advanced, modern armaments. They said: "Dmytro, this is difficult because operators need to be trained for two months." If they had agreed to provide these weapons to Ukraine at the beginning, our military would be using them now.
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We break through walls to obtain military assistance. The Minister for Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Dmytro Kuleba, said that the problem Ukraine faces is its Western partners’ unwillingness to take specific steps when they are already desperately needed. Dmytro Kuleba noted that he appreciates and is grateful to all partners, but in the issue of military assistance to Ukraine, he constantly has had to "break through the walls." The first wall was that they were not ready to give us weapons. Well, we "broke" that. The next wall - "we will give you light weapons, but not heavy." We broke that, too. Then, until recently, we were told that “we are ready to provide defensive weapons, but not offensive ones.” In the first week of the war, I asked foreign ministers if their country would be able to give us some advanced, modern armaments. They said: "Dmytro, this is difficult because operators need to be trained for two months." If they had agreed to provide these weapons to Ukraine at the beginning, our military would be using them now.
skyrider wrote:
The battle over Donbas will be like World War II, said Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba. The fight for Donbas most likely will be similar to World War II, with major operations and maneuvers involving thousands of tanks, armored vehicles, aircraft, and artillery. “It will not be a local operation. Given what we see, Russia has its plan, we have our own, and the outcome of this battle will be decided on the battlefield," said Kuleba after meeting NATO foreign ministers in Brussels. He stressed that it is now crucial that their NATO allies do not tell Ukraine that they are still thinking and must follow all the procedures and that many problems must be resolved before they can decide. But, he added, “Either you help us now, and I'm talking about days, not weeks, or your help will come too late, causing thousands of deaths.”
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We break through walls to obtain military assistance. The Minister for Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Dmytro Kuleba, said that the problem Ukraine faces is its Western partners’ unwillingness to take specific steps when they are already desperately needed. Dmytro Kuleba noted that he appreciates and is grateful to all partners, but in the issue of military assistance to Ukraine, he constantly has had to "break through the walls." The first wall was that they were not ready to give us weapons. Well, we "broke" that. The next wall - "we will give you light weapons, but not heavy." We broke that, too. Then, until recently, we were told that “we are ready to provide defensive weapons, but not offensive ones.” In the first week of the war, I asked foreign ministers if their country would be able to give us some advanced, modern armaments. They said: "Dmytro, this is difficult because operators need to be trained for two months." If they had agreed to provide these weapons to Ukraine at the beginning, our military would be using them now.
We break through walls to obtain military assistance. The Minister for Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Dmytro Kuleba, said that the problem Ukraine faces is its Western partners’ unwillingness to take specific steps when they are already desperately needed. Dmytro Kuleba noted that he appreciates and is grateful to all partners, but in the issue of military assistance to Ukraine, he constantly has had to "break through the walls." The first wall was that they were not ready to give us weapons. Well, we "broke" that. The next wall - "we will give you light weapons, but not heavy." We broke that, too. Then, until recently, we were told that “we are ready to provide defensive weapons, but not offensive ones.” In the first week of the war, I asked foreign ministers if their country would be able to give us some advanced, modern armaments. They said: "Dmytro, this is difficult because operators need to be trained for two months." If they had agreed to provide these weapons to Ukraine at the beginning, our military would be using them now.
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We break through walls to obtain military assistance. The Minister for Foreign Affairs of Ukraine, Dmytro Kuleba, said that the problem Ukraine faces is its Western partners’ unwillingness to take specific steps when they are already desperately needed. Dmytro Kuleba noted that he appreciates and is grateful to all partners, but in the issue of military assistance to Ukraine, he constantly has had to "break through the walls." The first wall was that they were not ready to give us weapons. Well, we "broke" that. The next wall - "we will give you light weapons, but not heavy." We broke that, too. Then, until recently, we were told that “we are ready to provide defensive weapons, but not offensive ones.” In the first week of the war, I asked foreign ministers if their country would be able to give us some advanced, modern armaments. They said: "Dmytro, this is difficult because operators need to be trained for two months." If they had agreed to provide these weapons to Ukraine at the beginning, our military would be using them now.
The battle over Donbas will be like World War II, ... (
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NATO is not your ally...
The Donbas and Lahunsk Republics are a reality that the Ukraine that the Ukraine will have to learn to live with...
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
NATO is not your ally...
The Donbas and Lahunsk Republics are a reality that the Ukraine that the Ukraine will have to learn to live with...
And will have to learn to live with the reality that the sweep will go across the whole country and most definitely
right here in Odessa all because the slime bag western countries and the U.S. did nothing to stop it when they
certainly could have before it started.
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
They wanted this war...
And when Russia takes Ukraine , giving Russia control of 24% of the worlds wheat supply,
what do YOU think will happen, Canuck.
skyrider wrote:
And when Russia takes Ukraine , giving Russia control of 24% of the worlds wheat supply,
what do YOU think will happen, Canuck.
Answered on your other thread
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Answered on your other thread
And , wrong answer to boot , Canuck.
skyrider wrote:
And , wrong answer to boot , Canuck.
Sorry Sky...
The Ukraine isn't coming out of this one victorious...
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry Sky...
The Ukraine isn't coming out of this one victorious...
Trust me Canuck. I am well aware of that.
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Sorry Sky...
The Ukraine isn't coming out of this one victorious...
I can hear the clatter of the folding lawn chairs being set up now in Western countries complete with a box lunch,
getting ready to "go to the h*****g".
skyrider wrote:
I can hear the clatter of the folding lawn chairs being set up now in Western countries complete with a box lunch,
getting ready to "go to the h*****g".
IMO.
From the Beginning: Everyone has sadly underestimated the 'will to resist' of the Ukrainian People.
The fight will never end, until Russia withdraws.
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