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Apr 5, 2022 15:16:42   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Alex Mann, Historian

Ultimately I think Ukraine will win, Putin will be destroyed, and the Russian military will be shattered.

1: Ukraine will win the war

Russia is doomed here. They’ve realized that capturing Kyiv or any major city is out of the question. Even if they had 300,000 men sitting around for that purpose, it’s just not possible.

So Putin needs to exit this war with the public perception of victory. Thus he is deploying most forces to the South in hopes of capturing the regions around Crimea and the Donbas region.

Ukraine has responded brilliantly. As of this moment, Ukraine is on the offensive and pushing Russian forces back. Russian forces in the South are demoralized, undersupplied, and confused while Ukrainians with super-human determination.

The Ukrainian government even came out and told soldiers that they don’t have to declare “captured Russian tanks” on their income for taxes. Ukraine is literally trolling Russia.

Russia is busy sending in more men and trying to build an oil pipeline so that it can get fuel to the front. Even if they manage to build this it won’t matter. Fuel is important but food, ammo, and spare parts matter even more.

There is no way Russia can fix its logistics, suddenly find a way to gain air superiority, and manage to regain the initiative at this point. Ukraine is destroying Russian oil silos in Russia at this point. That’s bad for Russia.

Ukraine knows this and their terms to end the war will be “pull out your men and publicly state Putin is a b***h”.

2: Putin is doomed

This war is Putin's legacy. NOBODY in Russia wanted this conflict. These poor Russian soldiers dying en-masse are just young college students fighting a nation many of them have family in.

Russians are iffy about this conflict as one might expect but now the cost is stacking up.

10,000 dead- that's double the number of men the US lost in Iraq over 10 years. Additionally, sanctions and the economic cost of this war are taking their toll.

I don’t know how Putin is doing to dodge blame for starting this war. He has been the face of this conflict from the start with his TV appearances and speeches.

3: The Russian Military is doomed

Putin is throwing the entire Russian military into this conflict.

After only 5 weeks Russian losses are staggering. 10,000+ k**led, 500–600 tanks lost, thousands of supply trucks lost, hundreds of Jet aircraft and helicopters lose.

This is equipment Russia cannot afford to replace. More importantly, Russia is wasting its very limited manpower.

Russia uses lots of cold war gear because it cannot afford to replace its old stockpiles with modern equipment. This is true today and every single Russian tank, jet, and Helicopter lost just means the Russian military is smaller than before.

More importantly, the myth of Russian might has been shattered- and I mean SHATTERED on the global stage. Calling this a humiliation is a gross understatement. Ukraine has more than held their own against Russia and you better believe the world is taking notice.

I hope things change. I like Russians and I think they deserve a better government than the one they have here. I think Ukraine deserves to be free and I think Putin is an active threat to world peace.

I’d like to see Russia grow and prosper as a part of the international community. Russia has a rich history and culture to share with mankind.

But before that can happen Putin has to go and this outdated Cold-War mentality has to go as well. This goes for the West and East.

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Apr 5, 2022 15:47:21   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
slatten49 wrote:
Alex Mann, Historian

Ultimately I think Ukraine will win, Putin will be destroyed, and the Russian military will be shattered.

1: Ukraine will win the war

Russia is doomed here. They’ve realized that capturing Kyiv or any major city is out of the question. Even if they had 300,000 men sitting around for that purpose, it’s just not possible.

So Putin needs to exit this war with the public perception of victory. Thus he is deploying most forces to the South in hopes of capturing the regions around Crimea and the Donbas region.

Ukraine has responded brilliantly. As of this moment, Ukraine is on the offensive and pushing Russian forces back. Russian forces in the South are demoralized, undersupplied, and confused while Ukrainians with super-human determination.

The Ukrainian government even came out and told soldiers that they don’t have to declare “captured Russian tanks” on their income for taxes. Ukraine is literally trolling Russia.

Russia is busy sending in more men and trying to build an oil pipeline so that it can get fuel to the front. Even if they manage to build this it won’t matter. Fuel is important but food, ammo, and spare parts matter even more.

There is no way Russia can fix its logistics, suddenly find a way to gain air superiority, and manage to regain the initiative at this point. Ukraine is destroying Russian oil silos in Russia at this point. That’s bad for Russia.

Ukraine knows this and their terms to end the war will be “pull out your men and publicly state Putin is a b***h”.

2: Putin is doomed

This war is Putin's legacy. NOBODY in Russia wanted this conflict. These poor Russian soldiers dying en-masse are just young college students fighting a nation many of them have family in.

Russians are iffy about this conflict as one might expect but now the cost is stacking up.

10,000 dead- that's double the number of men the US lost in Iraq over 10 years. Additionally, sanctions and the economic cost of this war are taking their toll.

I don’t know how Putin is doing to dodge blame for starting this war. He has been the face of this conflict from the start with his TV appearances and speeches.

3: The Russian Military is doomed

Putin is throwing the entire Russian military into this conflict.

After only 5 weeks Russian losses are staggering. 10,000+ k**led, 500–600 tanks lost, thousands of supply trucks lost, hundreds of Jet aircraft and helicopters lose.

This is equipment Russia cannot afford to replace. More importantly, Russia is wasting its very limited manpower.

Russia uses lots of cold war gear because it cannot afford to replace its old stockpiles with modern equipment. This is true today and every single Russian tank, jet, and Helicopter lost just means the Russian military is smaller than before.

More importantly, the myth of Russian might has been shattered- and I mean SHATTERED on the global stage. Calling this a humiliation is a gross understatement. Ukraine has more than held their own against Russia and you better believe the world is taking notice.

I hope things change. I like Russians and I think they deserve a better government than the one they have here. I think Ukraine deserves to be free and I think Putin is an active threat to world peace.

I’d like to see Russia grow and prosper as a part of the international community. Russia has a rich history and culture to share with mankind.

But before that can happen Putin has to go and this outdated Cold-War mentality has to go as well. This goes for the West and East.
Alex Mann, Historian br br Ultimately I think Ukr... (show quote)


Putin’s closest confidant , his doctor, becomes a humanitarian.

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Apr 5, 2022 16:16:06   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Be careful when paying attention to the man behind the curtain.

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Apr 5, 2022 16:32:51   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
slatten49 wrote:
Alex Mann, Historian

Ultimately I think Ukraine will win, Putin will be destroyed, and the Russian military will be shattered.

1: Ukraine will win the war

Russia is doomed here. They’ve realized that capturing Kyiv or any major city is out of the question. Even if they had 300,000 men sitting around for that purpose, it’s just not possible.

So Putin needs to exit this war with the public perception of victory. Thus he is deploying most forces to the South in hopes of capturing the regions around Crimea and the Donbas region.

Ukraine has responded brilliantly. As of this moment, Ukraine is on the offensive and pushing Russian forces back. Russian forces in the South are demoralized, undersupplied, and confused while Ukrainians with super-human determination.

The Ukrainian government even came out and told soldiers that they don’t have to declare “captured Russian tanks” on their income for taxes. Ukraine is literally trolling Russia.

Russia is busy sending in more men and trying to build an oil pipeline so that it can get fuel to the front. Even if they manage to build this it won’t matter. Fuel is important but food, ammo, and spare parts matter even more.

There is no way Russia can fix its logistics, suddenly find a way to gain air superiority, and manage to regain the initiative at this point. Ukraine is destroying Russian oil silos in Russia at this point. That’s bad for Russia.

Ukraine knows this and their terms to end the war will be “pull out your men and publicly state Putin is a b***h”.

2: Putin is doomed

This war is Putin's legacy. NOBODY in Russia wanted this conflict. These poor Russian soldiers dying en-masse are just young college students fighting a nation many of them have family in.

Russians are iffy about this conflict as one might expect but now the cost is stacking up.

10,000 dead- that's double the number of men the US lost in Iraq over 10 years. Additionally, sanctions and the economic cost of this war are taking their toll.

I don’t know how Putin is doing to dodge blame for starting this war. He has been the face of this conflict from the start with his TV appearances and speeches.

3: The Russian Military is doomed

Putin is throwing the entire Russian military into this conflict.

After only 5 weeks Russian losses are staggering. 10,000+ k**led, 500–600 tanks lost, thousands of supply trucks lost, hundreds of Jet aircraft and helicopters lose.

This is equipment Russia cannot afford to replace. More importantly, Russia is wasting its very limited manpower.

Russia uses lots of cold war gear because it cannot afford to replace its old stockpiles with modern equipment. This is true today and every single Russian tank, jet, and Helicopter lost just means the Russian military is smaller than before.

More importantly, the myth of Russian might has been shattered- and I mean SHATTERED on the global stage. Calling this a humiliation is a gross understatement. Ukraine has more than held their own against Russia and you better believe the world is taking notice.

I hope things change. I like Russians and I think they deserve a better government than the one they have here. I think Ukraine deserves to be free and I think Putin is an active threat to world peace.

I’d like to see Russia grow and prosper as a part of the international community. Russia has a rich history and culture to share with mankind.

But before that can happen Putin has to go and this outdated Cold-War mentality has to go as well. This goes for the West and East.
Alex Mann, Historian br br Ultimately I think Ukr... (show quote)

You're too busy focused on the shiny object in the g*******ts right hands to notice what's really going on in their left hands...

In early 2021 at the height of media generated c***d fear the World Economic Forum released a series of panel discussions and white papers outlining a “p******c” of a completely different nature; what they referred to as an impending “cyber-attack with c***d like characteristics.” The program agenda at the WEF was titled “Cyber Polygon” and headed with unsettling zeal by g*******t Klaus Schwab.

The WEF and Schwab are best known for two things:

1) Their involvement in a war game called Event 201 which simulated the global spread of a c****av***s p******c. This simulation was held two months BEFORE the real thing happened in early 2020 and a majority of the measures played out in the game were in fact implemented almost immediately following the outbreak.

2) Klaus Schwab’s excited announcement that the p******c was the perfect “opportunity” to institute what he calls the “Great Reset” of the global economy along with the rise of the Fourth Industrial Revolution, which is the complete centralization of world trade and governance into a global socialist empire where you will “own nothing, have no privacy, and like it.”

The fact that the WEF was so prescient when it came to the c***d p******c was quite a miracle. It was almost as if they knew it was going to happen, and their political friends in various nations wasted no time carrying out their draconian mandate policies around the world. But something happened that seemed to throw a monkey wrench into the plan – Event 201 predicted an initial death toll of around 65 million people, but this didn’t happen. In fact, the median Infection Fatality Rate of c***d was only 0.27%. C***d wasn’t k*****g enough people, and the public was starting to question the efficacy of the lockdowns, the useless mask rules and the need to take an experimental m**A v*****e with no long-term testing to prove its safety.

In the US specifically, conservative states began to rise up and block the c***d agenda. Today, the CDC and the Federal Government have declared the removal of most mandates and even l*****t blue states are beginning to relent. However, most conservative red states have been without mandates for well over a year to a year-and-a-half. We’ve been without restrictions this whole time, and the government is acting as if they have just “allowed us” to be free again.

The t***h is, the g*******ts at the WEF and their partners abroad FAILED in their efforts to institute medical tyranny, at least in the US and in certain parts of Europe. The agenda collapsed because the science was against them in every respect. They had nothing. With 99.7% of people safe from c***d, it was impossible to engineer enough fear in enough of the population to get them to relinquish their freedoms.

So, for those of us that have been tracking these events carefully, the alarm bells really started ringing when the WEF switched gears and suddenly shifted focus to a cyber-attack narrative. Was this Plan-B?

In April of 2021, an article titled, “The G*******ts Will Need Another Crisis in America as Their Reset Agenda Fails.” outlined the most likely scenarios for the next disaster event, which included war in Ukraine as well as a global cyber-attack that disrupts the supply chain. In That article stated:

“The media and the Biden Administration are very busy trying to create tensions with Russia over Ukraine. There are renewed tensions between Iran and Israel and continued destabilization by the West in Syria. And, a rising danger of confrontation with China over Taiwan…

There is … a narrative advantage to global tensions; when presented with a foreign threat, are Americans more likely to reject notions of r*******n against government trespasses? I have no doubt that the establishment will try to claim the liberty movement is not a movement for freedom, but an “astro-turf” movement created by the Russians to destabilize America. This has been the l*****t media propaganda strategy for years now; so why would they stop?”

In June of 2021, the article, “‘Cyber Polygon: Will the Next G*******t War Game Lead to Another Convenient Catastrophe?” more specifically detailed the suspicious nature of Cyber Polygon. Then in July of 2021 another article titled, “What If The Next Major Cyber Attack Targeted The Internet?” made the following observation:

In June of this year there was an internet outage event that led to large swaths of the web going dark, including a number of mainstream news sites, Amazon, eBay, Twitch, Reddit and a host of government websites went down. All this happened when content delivery network (CDN) company Fastly experienced a bug. Although Amazon had its website back online within 20 minutes, the brief outage cost the company over $5.5 million in sales (and that’s just one website!).

Fastly identified and fixed the problem within two hours, and continues to claim the outage had nothing to do with a cyberattack. However, it did reveal a huge vulnerability for the internet (what von Clausewitz would’ve called a schwerpunkt). A large portion of the web is dependent on only three CDN companies, including Fastly.

Here is what is concerning. If there was a cyberattack on such weak points in the web, and the attack involved a malicious worm or other highly infectious weapon, then Klaus Schwab could very well get his cyber p******c.


Today, the war tensions with Russia are now about to overflow and I suspect it’s only a matter of time before China also begins operations against Taiwan. But there is a much bigger threat on the horizon. I have little doubt at this stage that a false f**g attack on the US or Europe (or both) is now imminent, and what I mean by “false f**g” is that the attack will be designed to benefit the g*******ts and not necessarily the country that is blamed for it.

Vladimir Putin is a long-time associate of numerous g*******ts. His friendship with New World Order ghoul Henry Kissinger started decades ago and they continue to meet for regular lunches as Kissinger acts as an adviser to multiple branches of the Kremlin. Putin has also maintained a steady relationship to the WEF and Russia even joined Klaus Schwab’s Fourth Industrial Revolution Network just last year. The claim the Putin is anti-g*******t is a lie, he is deeply involved in the g*******t system and always has been.

The g*******ts are playing BOTH SIDES of the Ukraine conflict. This is reality. It’s very important to understand and accept this fact otherwise you will not be able to grasp the events that happen next.

Putin recently threatened western governments with a reprisal the likes of which they have never seen before if they try to interfere in Ukraine. The problem is that many in the mainstream and alternative media automatically assumed this was a threat of nuclear war. I don’t think this is what Putin was referring to. I have another theory…

The g*******ts are unlikely to spend the past several decades building up one of the most complex technocratic control grids in history to track and dominate the public only to then annihilate it all in the blink of an eye with nukes. A post-nuke environment would be impossible for them to control. What is more likely, in my view, is a massive cyber-attack that targets the functionality of the internet itself, and it would have to happen relatively soon.

The amount of economic and business operations tied to the web is staggering. Even if the internet was to go down for a mere two weeks, the repercussions to our markets and to our supply chain would be devastating. By extension, the benefits to the g*******ts would be immense. They could implement filters and firewalls on any part of the web they don’t like (including the alternative media) and claim that this is to protect the internet from possible sources of v***l spread. They could whittle the web down to only a handful of approved corporate and government sites all in the name of protecting the integrity of the net.

Furthermore, such an attack would be a perfect scapegoat for the already crashing economy and rising inflation. At that point, the central banks that are truly responsible for our financial instability could simply say that everything was “about to go back to normal” until (Russia or China) spread the cyber-v***s. And, maybe Russia will be involved, but it will not be Putin that gives the order, it will be his g*******t partners behind the curtain.

The hype machine surrounding Ukraine is in overdrive right now. It’s a little bizarre to me how much panic and indignance is being drummed up. It’s as if people have forgotten that the US government just spent well over a decade devastating a country like Iraq for no good reason. No one seems to be mentioning the hypocrisy of demanding all out war against Russia when US campaigns in Iraq k**led hundreds of thousands of civilians and very few countries batted an eye about it.

Clearly, the controlled media is trying to convince the western people to support direct military confrontation with Russia over a conflict that has nothing to do with us. There are even numerous GOP neo-cons out there (Lindsay Graham, I’m looking at you) campaigning for true conservatives to go along with a war footing. I don’t think it’s gaining much traction, but what has worked as an effective manipulation against conservatives in the past?

The g*******ts need another Pearl Harbor – A 9/11 attack or something even bigger. They need something that will enrage the American population, specifically conservatives. They need a crisis of epic proportions to lure us into an emotional response and the abandonment of logic. They also need a scapegoat disaster that they can use to lay the blame for the impending economic crisis.

I predict this event will come in the form of a large-scale cyber-attack, and the escalation of events suggests to me that they will try to implement such an attack in the near term. Perhaps within the next couple of months and certainly before the year is over.

This is not about Russia. It’s not about Ukraine. The real war is between free peoples and the g*******ts. When they are removed and their puppets are removed, the majority of these disasters will stop. As long as they remain in power, the crisis events will only accelerate and increase in frequency until they find something that works; something that makes most people willing to give up their liberties in exchange for the false promise of security.

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Apr 5, 2022 16:38:48   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Parky60 wrote:
You're too busy focused on the shiny object in the g*******ts right hands to notice what's really going on in their left hands...

In early 2021 at the height of media generated c***d fear the World Economic Forum released a series of panel discussions and white papers outlining a “p******c” of a completely different nature; what they referred to as an impending “cyber-attack with c***d like characteristics.” The program agenda at the WEF was titled “Cyber Polygon” and headed with unsettling zeal by g*******t Klaus Schwab.

The WEF and Schwab are best known for two things:

1) Their involvement in a war game called Event 201 which simulated the global spread of a c****av***s p******c. This simulation was held two months BEFORE the real thing happened in early 2020 and a majority of the measures played out in the game were in fact implemented almost immediately following the outbreak.

2) Klaus Schwab’s excited announcement that the p******c was the perfect “opportunity” to institute what he calls the “Great Reset” of the global economy along with the rise of the Fourth Industrial Revolution, which is the complete centralization of world trade and governance into a global socialist empire where you will “own nothing, have no privacy, and like it.”

The fact that the WEF was so prescient when it came to the c***d p******c was quite a miracle. It was almost as if they knew it was going to happen, and their political friends in various nations wasted no time carrying out their draconian mandate policies around the world. But something happened that seemed to throw a monkey wrench into the plan – Event 201 predicted an initial death toll of around 65 million people, but this didn’t happen. In fact, the median Infection Fatality Rate of c***d was only 0.27%. C***d wasn’t k*****g enough people, and the public was starting to question the efficacy of the lockdowns, the useless mask rules and the need to take an experimental m**A v*****e with no long-term testing to prove its safety.

In the US specifically, conservative states began to rise up and block the c***d agenda. Today, the CDC and the Federal Government have declared the removal of most mandates and even l*****t blue states are beginning to relent. However, most conservative red states have been without mandates for well over a year to a year-and-a-half. We’ve been without restrictions this whole time, and the government is acting as if they have just “allowed us” to be free again.

The t***h is, the g*******ts at the WEF and their partners abroad FAILED in their efforts to institute medical tyranny, at least in the US and in certain parts of Europe. The agenda collapsed because the science was against them in every respect. They had nothing. With 99.7% of people safe from c***d, it was impossible to engineer enough fear in enough of the population to get them to relinquish their freedoms.

So, for those of us that have been tracking these events carefully, the alarm bells really started ringing when the WEF switched gears and suddenly shifted focus to a cyber-attack narrative. Was this Plan-B?

In April of 2021, an article titled, “The G*******ts Will Need Another Crisis in America as Their Reset Agenda Fails.” outlined the most likely scenarios for the next disaster event, which included war in Ukraine as well as a global cyber-attack that disrupts the supply chain. In That article stated:

“The media and the Biden Administration are very busy trying to create tensions with Russia over Ukraine. There are renewed tensions between Iran and Israel and continued destabilization by the West in Syria. And, a rising danger of confrontation with China over Taiwan…

There is … a narrative advantage to global tensions; when presented with a foreign threat, are Americans more likely to reject notions of r*******n against government trespasses? I have no doubt that the establishment will try to claim the liberty movement is not a movement for freedom, but an “astro-turf” movement created by the Russians to destabilize America. This has been the l*****t media propaganda strategy for years now; so why would they stop?”

In June of 2021, the article, “‘Cyber Polygon: Will the Next G*******t War Game Lead to Another Convenient Catastrophe?” more specifically detailed the suspicious nature of Cyber Polygon. Then in July of 2021 another article titled, “What If The Next Major Cyber Attack Targeted The Internet?” made the following observation:

In June of this year there was an internet outage event that led to large swaths of the web going dark, including a number of mainstream news sites, Amazon, eBay, Twitch, Reddit and a host of government websites went down. All this happened when content delivery network (CDN) company Fastly experienced a bug. Although Amazon had its website back online within 20 minutes, the brief outage cost the company over $5.5 million in sales (and that’s just one website!).

Fastly identified and fixed the problem within two hours, and continues to claim the outage had nothing to do with a cyberattack. However, it did reveal a huge vulnerability for the internet (what von Clausewitz would’ve called a schwerpunkt). A large portion of the web is dependent on only three CDN companies, including Fastly.

Here is what is concerning. If there was a cyberattack on such weak points in the web, and the attack involved a malicious worm or other highly infectious weapon, then Klaus Schwab could very well get his cyber p******c.


Today, the war tensions with Russia are now about to overflow and I suspect it’s only a matter of time before China also begins operations against Taiwan. But there is a much bigger threat on the horizon. I have little doubt at this stage that a false f**g attack on the US or Europe (or both) is now imminent, and what I mean by “false f**g” is that the attack will be designed to benefit the g*******ts and not necessarily the country that is blamed for it.

Vladimir Putin is a long-time associate of numerous g*******ts. His friendship with New World Order ghoul Henry Kissinger started decades ago and they continue to meet for regular lunches as Kissinger acts as an adviser to multiple branches of the Kremlin. Putin has also maintained a steady relationship to the WEF and Russia even joined Klaus Schwab’s Fourth Industrial Revolution Network just last year. The claim the Putin is anti-g*******t is a lie, he is deeply involved in the g*******t system and always has been.

The g*******ts are playing BOTH SIDES of the Ukraine conflict. This is reality. It’s very important to understand and accept this fact otherwise you will not be able to grasp the events that happen next.

Putin recently threatened western governments with a reprisal the likes of which they have never seen before if they try to interfere in Ukraine. The problem is that many in the mainstream and alternative media automatically assumed this was a threat of nuclear war. I don’t think this is what Putin was referring to. I have another theory…

The g*******ts are unlikely to spend the past several decades building up one of the most complex technocratic control grids in history to track and dominate the public only to then annihilate it all in the blink of an eye with nukes. A post-nuke environment would be impossible for them to control. What is more likely, in my view, is a massive cyber-attack that targets the functionality of the internet itself, and it would have to happen relatively soon.

The amount of economic and business operations tied to the web is staggering. Even if the internet was to go down for a mere two weeks, the repercussions to our markets and to our supply chain would be devastating. By extension, the benefits to the g*******ts would be immense. They could implement filters and firewalls on any part of the web they don’t like (including the alternative media) and claim that this is to protect the internet from possible sources of v***l spread. They could whittle the web down to only a handful of approved corporate and government sites all in the name of protecting the integrity of the net.

Furthermore, such an attack would be a perfect scapegoat for the already crashing economy and rising inflation. At that point, the central banks that are truly responsible for our financial instability could simply say that everything was “about to go back to normal” until (Russia or China) spread the cyber-v***s. And, maybe Russia will be involved, but it will not be Putin that gives the order, it will be his g*******t partners behind the curtain.

The hype machine surrounding Ukraine is in overdrive right now. It’s a little bizarre to me how much panic and indignance is being drummed up. It’s as if people have forgotten that the US government just spent well over a decade devastating a country like Iraq for no good reason. No one seems to be mentioning the hypocrisy of demanding all out war against Russia when US campaigns in Iraq k**led hundreds of thousands of civilians and very few countries batted an eye about it.

Clearly, the controlled media is trying to convince the western people to support direct military confrontation with Russia over a conflict that has nothing to do with us. There are even numerous GOP neo-cons out there (Lindsay Graham, I’m looking at you) campaigning for true conservatives to go along with a war footing. I don’t think it’s gaining much traction, but what has worked as an effective manipulation against conservatives in the past?

The g*******ts need another Pearl Harbor – A 9/11 attack or something even bigger. They need something that will enrage the American population, specifically conservatives. They need a crisis of epic proportions to lure us into an emotional response and the abandonment of logic. They also need a scapegoat disaster that they can use to lay the blame for the impending economic crisis.

I predict this event will come in the form of a large-scale cyber-attack, and the escalation of events suggests to me that they will try to implement such an attack in the near term. Perhaps within the next couple of months and certainly before the year is over.

This is not about Russia. It’s not about Ukraine. The real war is between free peoples and the g*******ts. When they are removed and their puppets are removed, the majority of these disasters will stop. As long as they remain in power, the crisis events will only accelerate and increase in frequency until they find something that works; something that makes most people willing to give up their liberties in exchange for the false promise of security.
You're too busy focused on the shiny object in the... (show quote)


It’ll end when God says it will end.

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Apr 5, 2022 16:50:49   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
Parky60 wrote:
You're too busy focused on the shiny object in the g*******ts right hands to notice what's really going on in their left hands...

In early 2021 at the height of media generated c***d fear the World Economic Forum released a series of panel discussions and white papers outlining a “p******c” of a completely different nature; what they referred to as an impending “cyber-attack with c***d like characteristics.” The program agenda at the WEF was titled “Cyber Polygon” and headed with unsettling zeal by g*******t Klaus Schwab.

The WEF and Schwab are best known for two things:

1) Their involvement in a war game called Event 201 which simulated the global spread of a c****av***s p******c. This simulation was held two months BEFORE the real thing happened in early 2020 and a majority of the measures played out in the game were in fact implemented almost immediately following the outbreak.

2) Klaus Schwab’s excited announcement that the p******c was the perfect “opportunity” to institute what he calls the “Great Reset” of the global economy along with the rise of the Fourth Industrial Revolution, which is the complete centralization of world trade and governance into a global socialist empire where you will “own nothing, have no privacy, and like it.”

The fact that the WEF was so prescient when it came to the c***d p******c was quite a miracle. It was almost as if they knew it was going to happen, and their political friends in various nations wasted no time carrying out their draconian mandate policies around the world. But something happened that seemed to throw a monkey wrench into the plan – Event 201 predicted an initial death toll of around 65 million people, but this didn’t happen. In fact, the median Infection Fatality Rate of c***d was only 0.27%. C***d wasn’t k*****g enough people, and the public was starting to question the efficacy of the lockdowns, the useless mask rules and the need to take an experimental m**A v*****e with no long-term testing to prove its safety.

In the US specifically, conservative states began to rise up and block the c***d agenda. Today, the CDC and the Federal Government have declared the removal of most mandates and even l*****t blue states are beginning to relent. However, most conservative red states have been without mandates for well over a year to a year-and-a-half. We’ve been without restrictions this whole time, and the government is acting as if they have just “allowed us” to be free again.

The t***h is, the g*******ts at the WEF and their partners abroad FAILED in their efforts to institute medical tyranny, at least in the US and in certain parts of Europe. The agenda collapsed because the science was against them in every respect. They had nothing. With 99.7% of people safe from c***d, it was impossible to engineer enough fear in enough of the population to get them to relinquish their freedoms.

So, for those of us that have been tracking these events carefully, the alarm bells really started ringing when the WEF switched gears and suddenly shifted focus to a cyber-attack narrative. Was this Plan-B?

In April of 2021, an article titled, “The G*******ts Will Need Another Crisis in America as Their Reset Agenda Fails.” outlined the most likely scenarios for the next disaster event, which included war in Ukraine as well as a global cyber-attack that disrupts the supply chain. In That article stated:

“The media and the Biden Administration are very busy trying to create tensions with Russia over Ukraine. There are renewed tensions between Iran and Israel and continued destabilization by the West in Syria. And, a rising danger of confrontation with China over Taiwan…

There is … a narrative advantage to global tensions; when presented with a foreign threat, are Americans more likely to reject notions of r*******n against government trespasses? I have no doubt that the establishment will try to claim the liberty movement is not a movement for freedom, but an “astro-turf” movement created by the Russians to destabilize America. This has been the l*****t media propaganda strategy for years now; so why would they stop?”

In June of 2021, the article, “‘Cyber Polygon: Will the Next G*******t War Game Lead to Another Convenient Catastrophe?” more specifically detailed the suspicious nature of Cyber Polygon. Then in July of 2021 another article titled, “What If The Next Major Cyber Attack Targeted The Internet?” made the following observation:

In June of this year there was an internet outage event that led to large swaths of the web going dark, including a number of mainstream news sites, Amazon, eBay, Twitch, Reddit and a host of government websites went down. All this happened when content delivery network (CDN) company Fastly experienced a bug. Although Amazon had its website back online within 20 minutes, the brief outage cost the company over $5.5 million in sales (and that’s just one website!).

Fastly identified and fixed the problem within two hours, and continues to claim the outage had nothing to do with a cyberattack. However, it did reveal a huge vulnerability for the internet (what von Clausewitz would’ve called a schwerpunkt). A large portion of the web is dependent on only three CDN companies, including Fastly.

Here is what is concerning. If there was a cyberattack on such weak points in the web, and the attack involved a malicious worm or other highly infectious weapon, then Klaus Schwab could very well get his cyber p******c.


Today, the war tensions with Russia are now about to overflow and I suspect it’s only a matter of time before China also begins operations against Taiwan. But there is a much bigger threat on the horizon. I have little doubt at this stage that a false f**g attack on the US or Europe (or both) is now imminent, and what I mean by “false f**g” is that the attack will be designed to benefit the g*******ts and not necessarily the country that is blamed for it.

Vladimir Putin is a long-time associate of numerous g*******ts. His friendship with New World Order ghoul Henry Kissinger started decades ago and they continue to meet for regular lunches as Kissinger acts as an adviser to multiple branches of the Kremlin. Putin has also maintained a steady relationship to the WEF and Russia even joined Klaus Schwab’s Fourth Industrial Revolution Network just last year. The claim the Putin is anti-g*******t is a lie, he is deeply involved in the g*******t system and always has been.

The g*******ts are playing BOTH SIDES of the Ukraine conflict. This is reality. It’s very important to understand and accept this fact otherwise you will not be able to grasp the events that happen next.

Putin recently threatened western governments with a reprisal the likes of which they have never seen before if they try to interfere in Ukraine. The problem is that many in the mainstream and alternative media automatically assumed this was a threat of nuclear war. I don’t think this is what Putin was referring to. I have another theory…

The g*******ts are unlikely to spend the past several decades building up one of the most complex technocratic control grids in history to track and dominate the public only to then annihilate it all in the blink of an eye with nukes. A post-nuke environment would be impossible for them to control. What is more likely, in my view, is a massive cyber-attack that targets the functionality of the internet itself, and it would have to happen relatively soon.

The amount of economic and business operations tied to the web is staggering. Even if the internet was to go down for a mere two weeks, the repercussions to our markets and to our supply chain would be devastating. By extension, the benefits to the g*******ts would be immense. They could implement filters and firewalls on any part of the web they don’t like (including the alternative media) and claim that this is to protect the internet from possible sources of v***l spread. They could whittle the web down to only a handful of approved corporate and government sites all in the name of protecting the integrity of the net.

Furthermore, such an attack would be a perfect scapegoat for the already crashing economy and rising inflation. At that point, the central banks that are truly responsible for our financial instability could simply say that everything was “about to go back to normal” until (Russia or China) spread the cyber-v***s. And, maybe Russia will be involved, but it will not be Putin that gives the order, it will be his g*******t partners behind the curtain.

The hype machine surrounding Ukraine is in overdrive right now. It’s a little bizarre to me how much panic and indignance is being drummed up. It’s as if people have forgotten that the US government just spent well over a decade devastating a country like Iraq for no good reason. No one seems to be mentioning the hypocrisy of demanding all out war against Russia when US campaigns in Iraq k**led hundreds of thousands of civilians and very few countries batted an eye about it.

Clearly, the controlled media is trying to convince the western people to support direct military confrontation with Russia over a conflict that has nothing to do with us. There are even numerous GOP neo-cons out there (Lindsay Graham, I’m looking at you) campaigning for true conservatives to go along with a war footing. I don’t think it’s gaining much traction, but what has worked as an effective manipulation against conservatives in the past?

The g*******ts need another Pearl Harbor – A 9/11 attack or something even bigger. They need something that will enrage the American population, specifically conservatives. They need a crisis of epic proportions to lure us into an emotional response and the abandonment of logic. They also need a scapegoat disaster that they can use to lay the blame for the impending economic crisis.

I predict this event will come in the form of a large-scale cyber-attack, and the escalation of events suggests to me that they will try to implement such an attack in the near term. Perhaps within the next couple of months and certainly before the year is over.

This is not about Russia. It’s not about Ukraine. The real war is between free peoples and the g*******ts. When they are removed and their puppets are removed, the majority of these disasters will stop. As long as they remain in power, the crisis events will only accelerate and increase in frequency until they find something that works; something that makes most people willing to give up their liberties in exchange for the false promise of security.
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Apr 5, 2022 17:39:02   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
It’ll end when God says it will end.

I'm just describing the pr********n and setup of one world government for the Antichrist. Yes God is in control but He is allowing these things to happen that will ultimately usher in the second coming of Jesus Christ.

The shock-and-awe of a cyberattack, shutting down key infrastructures, would create panic and fear throughout the world, leading to the equivalent of the Patriot Act II. When the global technocrat elite suggest that the only way to overcome future attacks is for everyone to have a digital identity, people will flock to it by the billions.

Save us! Save us! they will cry. Many of the same people who bought the lies and lined up for their injections will soon be lining up to get their universally recognized digital ID that allows them to travel, buy and sell.

• This is the Great Reset.
• This is the beast system

And with digital currency, social credit scores, 24/7 surveillance and digital identify, we will have the one world government beast system in place that in my opinion, will ultimately be utilized by the first beast and the second beast in the Bible…Antichrist and the False Prophet.

How long will this take you may ask. A few years perhaps? Perhaps not in our lifetime?

But consider how fast things have developed with C***D in just a little over 2 years. And how our society has quickly degenerated in the past 5-7 years.

It appears that Phase II is in the works.

It's quite possible that the debilitating cyberattack will come before the end of this year, but I believe that it will be sooner, probably before the November e******n.

It will be the next phase in the grand Hegelian dialectic.

• Where the power elites create the problem
• Which causes people to cry out for a solution
• Which they are all too ready to provide

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Apr 5, 2022 18:20:21   #
RascalRiley Loc: Somewhere south of Detroit
 
Parky60 wrote:
I'm just describing the pr********n and setup of one world government for the Antichrist. Yes God is in control but He is allowing these things to happen that will ultimately usher in the second coming of Jesus Christ.

The shock-and-awe of a cyberattack, shutting down key infrastructures, would create panic and fear throughout the world, leading to the equivalent of the Patriot Act II. When the global technocrat elite suggest that the only way to overcome future attacks is for everyone to have a digital identity, people will flock to it by the billions.

Save us! Save us! they will cry. Many of the same people who bought the lies and lined up for their injections will soon be lining up to get their universally recognized digital ID that allows them to travel, buy and sell.

• This is the Great Reset.
• This is the beast system

And with digital currency, social credit scores, 24/7 surveillance and digital identify, we will have the one world government beast system in place that in my opinion, will ultimately be utilized by the first beast and the second beast in the Bible…Antichrist and the False Prophet.

How long will this take you may ask. A few years perhaps? Perhaps not in our lifetime?

But consider how fast things have developed with C***D in just a little over 2 years. And how our society has quickly degenerated in the past 5-7 years.

It appears that Phase II is in the works.

It's quite possible that the debilitating cyberattack will come before the end of this year, but I believe that it will be sooner, probably before the November e******n.

It will be the next phase in the grand Hegelian dialectic.

• Where the power elites create the problem
• Which causes people to cry out for a solution
• Which they are all too ready to provide
I'm just describing the pr********n and setup of o... (show quote)


Fox News, the evangelical fringe, and the right wing have been peddling “End Times” thinking for decades. Armageddon has become a backdrop now that Russia has invaded Ukraine.

Putin and Doomsday: The Far Right’s Fascination With the Apocalypse

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/putin-and-doomsday-the-far-rights-fascination-with-the-apocalypse

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Apr 5, 2022 22:12:59   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Fox News, the evangelical fringe, and the right wing have been peddling “End Times” thinking for decades. Armageddon has become a backdrop now that Russia has invaded Ukraine.

Putin and Doomsday: The Far Right’s Fascination With the Apocalypse

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/putin-and-doomsday-the-far-rights-fascination-with-the-apocalypse

You don't realize it but you've just fulfilled end times prophecy.

By the way, your article is a load of crap.

This is not about Russia. It’s not about Ukraine. The real war is between free peoples and the g*******ts. When they are removed and their puppets are removed, the majority of these disasters will stop. As long as they remain in power, the crisis events will only accelerate and increase in frequency until they find something that works; something that makes most people willing to give up their liberties in exchange for the false promise of security.

For when they say, “Peace and security!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 5:3

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Apr 6, 2022 08:08:27   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
Marty 2020 wrote:
It’ll end when God says it will end.


That’s funny right there.
I’m on the edge of my seat ,
Waiting for Godot .
Who will have the ears to hear hear this
Pronouncement ?

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Apr 6, 2022 09:09:29   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
RascalRiley wrote:
Fox News, the evangelical fringe, and the right wing have been peddling “End Times” thinking for decades. Armageddon has become a backdrop now that Russia has invaded Ukraine.

Putin and Doomsday: The Far Right’s Fascination With the Apocalypse

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/03/putin-and-doomsday-the-far-rights-fascination-with-the-apocalypse


No, dude, the GOP and Fox are not preachers turned pundits, maybe, by delusions of an apocalypse. The far far right ultra-religious yes, but it is not main stream right wing belief or concern.

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Apr 6, 2022 14:33:11   #
MidnightRider
 
slatten49 wrote:
Alex Mann, Historian

Ultimately I think Ukraine will win, Putin will be destroyed, and the Russian military will be shattered.

1: Ukraine will win the war

Russia is doomed here. They’ve realized that capturing Kyiv or any major city is out of the question. Even if they had 300,000 men sitting around for that purpose, it’s just not possible.

So Putin needs to exit this war with the public perception of victory. Thus he is deploying most forces to the South in hopes of capturing the regions around Crimea and the Donbas region.

Ukraine has responded brilliantly. As of this moment, Ukraine is on the offensive and pushing Russian forces back. Russian forces in the South are demoralized, undersupplied, and confused while Ukrainians with super-human determination.

The Ukrainian government even came out and told soldiers that they don’t have to declare “captured Russian tanks” on their income for taxes. Ukraine is literally trolling Russia.

Russia is busy sending in more men and trying to build an oil pipeline so that it can get fuel to the front. Even if they manage to build this it won’t matter. Fuel is important but food, ammo, and spare parts matter even more.

There is no way Russia can fix its logistics, suddenly find a way to gain air superiority, and manage to regain the initiative at this point. Ukraine is destroying Russian oil silos in Russia at this point. That’s bad for Russia.

Ukraine knows this and their terms to end the war will be “pull out your men and publicly state Putin is a b***h”.

2: Putin is doomed

This war is Putin's legacy. NOBODY in Russia wanted this conflict. These poor Russian soldiers dying en-masse are just young college students fighting a nation many of them have family in.

Russians are iffy about this conflict as one might expect but now the cost is stacking up.

10,000 dead- that's double the number of men the US lost in Iraq over 10 years. Additionally, sanctions and the economic cost of this war are taking their toll.

I don’t know how Putin is doing to dodge blame for starting this war. He has been the face of this conflict from the start with his TV appearances and speeches.

3: The Russian Military is doomed

Putin is throwing the entire Russian military into this conflict.

After only 5 weeks Russian losses are staggering. 10,000+ k**led, 500–600 tanks lost, thousands of supply trucks lost, hundreds of Jet aircraft and helicopters lose.

This is equipment Russia cannot afford to replace. More importantly, Russia is wasting its very limited manpower.

Russia uses lots of cold war gear because it cannot afford to replace its old stockpiles with modern equipment. This is true today and every single Russian tank, jet, and Helicopter lost just means the Russian military is smaller than before.

More importantly, the myth of Russian might has been shattered- and I mean SHATTERED on the global stage. Calling this a humiliation is a gross understatement. Ukraine has more than held their own against Russia and you better believe the world is taking notice.

I hope things change. I like Russians and I think they deserve a better government than the one they have here. I think Ukraine deserves to be free and I think Putin is an active threat to world peace.

I’d like to see Russia grow and prosper as a part of the international community. Russia has a rich history and culture to share with mankind.

But before that can happen Putin has to go and this outdated Cold-War mentality has to go as well. This goes for the West and East.
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The real war was over within 48 hours. What you see is bulls**t. A distraction for the puppet Zelensky of the NWO to play and war hawks to try to persuade Brandon to send troops in. They aren't doing too well. Who will win? There are no winners in war, just who was hurt less.

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Apr 6, 2022 15:31:10   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
MidnightRider wrote:
The real war was over within 48 hours. What you see is bulls**t. A distraction for the puppet Zelensky of the NWO to play and war hawks to try to persuade Brandon to send troops in. They aren't doing too well. Who will win? There are no winners in war, just who was hurt less.


I am beginning to think that is a distinct possibility. I have said it many times!!

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Apr 6, 2022 17:53:56   #
Marty 2020 Loc: Banana Republic of Kalifornia
 
Will someone else please tell milonoma2 to shut up!

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Apr 6, 2022 18:00:40   #
lindajoy Loc: right here with you....
 
slatten49 wrote:
Alex Mann, Historian

Ultimately I think Ukraine will win, Putin will be destroyed, and the Russian military will be shattered.

1: Ukraine will win the war

Russia is doomed here. They’ve realized that capturing Kyiv or any major city is out of the question. Even if they had 300,000 men sitting around for that purpose, it’s just not possible.

So Putin needs to exit this war with the public perception of victory. Thus he is deploying most forces to the South in hopes of capturing the regions around Crimea and the Donbas region.

Ukraine has responded brilliantly. As of this moment, Ukraine is on the offensive and pushing Russian forces back. Russian forces in the South are demoralized, undersupplied, and confused while Ukrainians with super-human determination.

The Ukrainian government even came out and told soldiers that they don’t have to declare “captured Russian tanks” on their income for taxes. Ukraine is literally trolling Russia.

Russia is busy sending in more men and trying to build an oil pipeline so that it can get fuel to the front. Even if they manage to build this it won’t matter. Fuel is important but food, ammo, and spare parts matter even more.

There is no way Russia can fix its logistics, suddenly find a way to gain air superiority, and manage to regain the initiative at this point. Ukraine is destroying Russian oil silos in Russia at this point. That’s bad for Russia.

Ukraine knows this and their terms to end the war will be “pull out your men and publicly state Putin is a b***h”.

2: Putin is doomed

This war is Putin's legacy. NOBODY in Russia wanted this conflict. These poor Russian soldiers dying en-masse are just young college students fighting a nation many of them have family in.

Russians are iffy about this conflict as one might expect but now the cost is stacking up.

10,000 dead- that's double the number of men the US lost in Iraq over 10 years. Additionally, sanctions and the economic cost of this war are taking their toll.

I don’t know how Putin is doing to dodge blame for starting this war. He has been the face of this conflict from the start with his TV appearances and speeches.

3: The Russian Military is doomed

Putin is throwing the entire Russian military into this conflict.

After only 5 weeks Russian losses are staggering. 10,000+ k**led, 500–600 tanks lost, thousands of supply trucks lost, hundreds of Jet aircraft and helicopters lose.

This is equipment Russia cannot afford to replace. More importantly, Russia is wasting its very limited manpower.

Russia uses lots of cold war gear because it cannot afford to replace its old stockpiles with modern equipment. This is true today and every single Russian tank, jet, and Helicopter lost just means the Russian military is smaller than before.

More importantly, the myth of Russian might has been shattered- and I mean SHATTERED on the global stage. Calling this a humiliation is a gross understatement. Ukraine has more than held their own against Russia and you better believe the world is taking notice.

I hope things change. I like Russians and I think they deserve a better government than the one they have here. I think Ukraine deserves to be free and I think Putin is an active threat to world peace.

I’d like to see Russia grow and prosper as a part of the international community. Russia has a rich history and culture to share with mankind.

But before that can happen Putin has to go and this outdated Cold-War mentality has to go as well. This goes for the West and East.
Alex Mann, Historian br br Ultimately I think Ukr... (show quote)


Says it all~~ “ this outdated Cold-War mentality has to go as well. This goes for the West and East.”

In today’s technology this form of war is as asinine as the declaration of war to begin with….One zeroed in drone could finish it!

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