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Mar 20, 2022 13:15:54   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
The sheer number of people who know nothing about the ongoing conflict between Ukraine speaking westerners and Russian speaking separatists.

Remember Obama didn't want to supply lethal weapons to Ukraine to use on the separatists. Maybe he was doing the right thing!

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Mar 20, 2022 13:18:29   #
skyrider
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
The sheer number of people who know nothing about the ongoing conflict between Ukraine speaking westerners and Russian speaking separatists.

Remember Obama didn't want to supply lethal weapons to Ukraine to use on the separatists. Maybe he was doing the right thing!


Obama doing the right thing ??????? Now THAT'S, disturbing. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mar 20, 2022 13:43:57   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
skyrider wrote:
Obama doing the right thing ??????? Now THAT'S, disturbing. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Exactly!

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Mar 20, 2022 14:26:50   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
Exactly!


You missed the point but yes, by not providing lethal support, Obama decreased the carnage of the separatists by Ukraine military, the thing that so many now claim did not happen.

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Mar 20, 2022 18:13:38   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
The sheer number of people who know nothing about the ongoing conflict between Ukraine speaking westerners and Russian speaking separatists.

Remember Obama didn't want to supply lethal weapons to Ukraine to use on the separatists. Maybe he was doing the right thing!


Weird... I have never thought about that...

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Mar 20, 2022 21:06:34   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Weird... I have never thought about that...


It's an eye opener. We all know that if one even suggests that there is something more to this than a mad man wanting world domination, you are branded a c****e Putin lover. Kemmer on this OPP has denied that there is any shelling of civilians in the east, the separatists, for the past some odd years.

I guess, if you don't know about the ongoing conflict between the separatists and the Ukraine speaking western Ukraine's, then you might very easily buy into the notion that Vlad is Mad. I h**e to say it but my own wife is in that category and no matter what I say or show her, if she would actually look, will convince her. She just linked me to Dan Rather's forum. It, in and of itself, is an eye opener. They are concerned that we care too much about Ukraine because it is a white country, or that is expressed by many on that forum. They call the coverage r****t. Check it out. You could articulate it far better than I.

Surely our government knows what is actually occurring, in terms of the why's and the wherefores.

As the oracle said, it is a pickle, it surely is!

I believe that the people of the US would sing a different tune if they actually knew what the true history of the conflict is, but it will NEVER be told on our media.

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Mar 20, 2022 21:36:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
It's an eye opener. We all know that if one even suggests that there is something more to this than a mad man wanting world domination, you are branded a c****e Putin lover. Kemmer on this OPP has denied that there is any shelling of civilians in the east, the separatists, for the past some odd years.

I guess, if you don't know about the ongoing conflict between the separatists and the Ukraine speaking western Ukraine's, then you might very easily buy into the notion that Vlad is Mad. I h**e to say it but my own wife is in that category and no matter what I say or show her, if she would actually look, will convince her. She just linked me to Dan Rather's forum. It, in and of itself, is an eye opener. They are concerned that we care too much about Ukraine because it is a white country, or that is expressed by many on that forum. They call the coverage r****t. Check it out. You could articulate it far better than I.

Surely our government knows what is actually occurring, in terms of the why's and the wherefores.

As the oracle said, it is a pickle, it surely is!

I believe that the people of the US would sing a different tune if they actually knew what the true history of the conflict is, but it will NEVER be told on our media.
It's an eye opener. We all know that if one even ... (show quote)


I hear you... My mom is the same way...

I was originally referring to Obama not providing weapons because he knew about the Donbas...That never occurred to me...

The coverage s different because they are Europeans and it's not NATO attacking... I doubt r****m has much to do with it...(although were seeing a lot of r****m being displayed in eastern Europe)

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Mar 20, 2022 21:47:44   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I hear you... My mom is the same way...

I was originally referring to Obama not providing weapons because he knew about the Donbas...That never occurred to me...

The coverage s different because they are Europeans and it's not NATO attacking... I doubt r****m has much to do with it...(although were seeing a lot of r****m being displayed in eastern Europe)


Definitely not a race issue. At least not between the Ukraine speakers of the west and the Russian speakers of the eat. That, is pure h**e, from what I can tell. Like northerners of the US hating the southerners of the US.

But apparently, POC on the outside feel like the coverage is hypes up and the support from the US and EU NATO is because it involves white people! Oh yes, that is clear and I had no idea until just now, not that it surprises me.

Can you imagine if our POC, our l*****ts, our woke found out the t***h about the true r****m of all parties in that region????? I would love to tell them! I truly would. I would love to see the looks on their faces when they realized they are supporting people who disagree with them on a basic level. We would have protests in the streets protesting our support, condemning our arming the Ukraine people!! It would be glorious.

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Mar 20, 2022 22:05:19   #
LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
It's an eye opener. We all know that if one even suggests that there is something more to this than a mad man wanting world domination, you are branded a c****e Putin lover. Kemmer on this OPP has denied that there is any shelling of civilians in the east, the separatists, for the past some odd years.

I guess, if you don't know about the ongoing conflict between the separatists and the Ukraine speaking western Ukraine's, then you might very easily buy into the notion that Vlad is Mad. I h**e to say it but my own wife is in that category and no matter what I say or show her, if she would actually look, will convince her. She just linked me to Dan Rather's forum. It, in and of itself, is an eye opener. They are concerned that we care too much about Ukraine because it is a white country, or that is expressed by many on that forum. They call the coverage r****t. Check it out. You could articulate it far better than I.

Surely our government knows what is actually occurring, in terms of the why's and the wherefores.

As the oracle said, it is a pickle, it surely is!

I believe that the people of the US would sing a different tune if they actually knew what the true history of the conflict is, but it will NEVER be told on our media.
It's an eye opener. We all know that if one even ... (show quote)


***I believe that the people of the US would sing a different tune if they actually knew what the true history of the conflict is, but it will NEVER be told on our media.
>>>I keep trying to point out some of Russia's/Putin's positions and how they aren't as wrong as everyone tries to make them out to be. And biden and the west are not a bunch of saints either. And the more I read, the more I can see the other side's position. We are the ones slowly trying to strangle Russia and contain them and are the aggressors. Keep reading and learning with an open mind and you might start to see questions and not a lot of answers.

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Mar 20, 2022 22:08:15   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Definitely not a race issue. At least not between the Ukraine speakers of the west and the Russian speakers of the eat. That, is pure h**e, from what I can tell. Like northerners of the US hating the southerners of the US.

But apparently, POC on the outside feel like the coverage is hypes up and the support from the US and EU NATO is because it involves white people! Oh yes, that is clear and I had no idea until just now, not that it surprises me.

Can you imagine if our POC, our l*****ts, our woke found out the t***h about the true r****m of all parties in that region????? I would love to tell them! I truly would. I would love to see the looks on their faces when they realized they are supporting people who disagree with them on a basic level. We would have protests in the streets protesting our support, condemning our arming the Ukraine people!! It would be glorious.
Definitely not a race issue. At least not between... (show quote)

If l*****ts understood things there wouldn't be any l*****ts..

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Mar 20, 2022 22:08:38   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***I believe that the people of the US would sing a different tune if they actually knew what the true history of the conflict is, but it will NEVER be told on our media.
>>>I keep trying to point out some of Russia's/Putin's positions and how they aren't as wrong as everyone tries to make them out to be. And biden and the west are not a bunch of saints either. And the more I read, the more I can see the other side's position. We are the ones slowly trying to strangle Russia and contain them and are the aggressors. Keep reading and learning with an open mind and you might start to see questions and not a lot of answers.
***I believe that the people of the US would sing ... (show quote)



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Mar 20, 2022 22:10:10   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
LogicallyRight wrote:
***I believe that the people of the US would sing a different tune if they actually knew what the true history of the conflict is, but it will NEVER be told on our media.
>>>I keep trying to point out some of Russia's/Putin's positions and how they aren't as wrong as everyone tries to make them out to be. And biden and the west are not a bunch of saints either. And the more I read, the more I can see the other side's position. We are the ones slowly trying to strangle Russia and contain them and are the aggressors. Keep reading and learning with an open mind and you might start to see questions and not a lot of answers.
***I believe that the people of the US would sing ... (show quote)


I am! But man, you mention any of that and you are a c****e bastard Putin lover!!

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Mar 20, 2022 22:10:48   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
If l*****ts understood things there wouldn't be any l*****ts..


The understatement of all time!!

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Mar 20, 2022 22:11:29   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
If l*****ts understood things there wouldn't be any l*****ts..


Truly, the best comment of ALL time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Mar 20, 2022 22:17:58   #
AuntiE Loc: 45th Least Free State
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
If l*****ts understood things there wouldn't be any l*****ts..


If you consider how their support of homosexuality and t*********rism is growing, there may not be.

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