Putin sounds more like Trump everyday.
PeterS wrote:
So what lies have I said? List them and I will apologize...
You've been repeating lies ever since I joined OPP. They have been pointed out to you numerous times, and you always just double down on them. If the Democrats and MSM told you they had evidence that Trump was an i*****l a***n from Mars, you would repeat that as absolutely factual and proven. You will never apologize until you realize and admit that it is the LEFT that has the cultish, childish followers who quickly and blindly accept wh**ever propaganda they are feed.
I learned MY lesson about how deceitful, conniving, lying, and blatant dishonest the Democrats are in 1996, when they piled lie upon lie upon lie about the Republicans and their agenda. They PROVED to me that they believe the end justifies the means. I learned my lesson. Will YOU ever learn?
PeterS wrote:
Putin and Trump supporters are following the same thread--they only listen to news that paints their leader in a positive light and all else is F**E! The N**is didn't have propaganda that powerful.
You continye to be delusional about who and why people support Trump.
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
15 years for spreading false information...
I could give you a list of what's coming out of the Ukraine...
Most of it is bulls**t...
I don't agree with Russia's crackdown on the media... But I don't agree with the West's crackdown on the media either...
And what crackdown on the media has the west done? If you want crackdowns, the more that Donald Trump lied the more he said the news organization that revealed his lies was F**E NEWS. Distrust of a source of media is as good a way of shutting it down as any. Despots follow patterns and the first thing they all do is try to do is control the narrative because people who don't think for themselves will always believe wh**ever narrative their respective ideologies dictate they should believe. This is as true for Democrats as it is for Republicans. You don't think that any Russian would believe there wasn't a war? Well, I would have never believed that any American would have believed that there was massive fraud based almost solely on the word of one man whose future depended on his followers believing there was fraud. Could anyone get them to believe any differently? NO! And I'm willing to bet the vast majority of them believe the same today.
And of course, Trump was labeling any news media that didn't paint him in a positive light as F**E long before the 2020 e******n so Trump was working on destroying trust in media from the beginning which was made all the easier because conservatives had already conditioned themselves to believe that only media that says what they want to hear as true and all else as false or F**E news and not to be trusted.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-introduce-jail-terms-spreading-f**e-information-about-army-2022-03-04/https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/28/facebook-twitter-ukraine-russia-misinformationhttps://www.npr.org/2022/02/25/1083255054/tiktok-sees-a-surge-of-misleading-videos-that-claim-to-show-the-invasion-of-ukra
PeterS wrote:
And what crackdown on the media has the west done? If you want crackdowns, the more that Donald Trump lied the more he said the news organization that revealed his lies was F**E NEWS. Distrust of a source of media is as good a way of shutting it down as any. Despots follow patterns and the first thing they all do is try to do is control the narrative because people who don't think for themselves will always believe wh**ever narrative their respective ideologies dictate they should believe. This is as true for Democrats as it is for Republicans. You don't think that any Russian would believe there wasn't a war? Well, I would have never believed that any American would have believed that there was massive fraud based almost solely on the word of one man whose future depended on his followers believing there was fraud. Could anyone get them to believe any differently? NO! And I'm willing to bet the vast majority of them believe the same today.
And of course, Trump was labeling any news media that didn't paint him in a positive light as F**E long before the 2020 e******n so Trump was working on destroying trust in media from the beginning which was made all the easier because conservatives had already conditioned themselves to believe that only media that says what they want to hear as true and all else as false or F**E news and not to be trusted.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-introduce-jail-terms-spreading-f**e-information-about-army-2022-03-04/https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/28/facebook-twitter-ukraine-russia-misinformationhttps://www.npr.org/2022/02/25/1083255054/tiktok-sees-a-surge-of-misleading-videos-that-claim-to-show-the-invasion-of-ukraAnd what crackdown on the media has the west done?... (
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I hear you...
Trump was part of the problem...
But not the whole...
Social media in the West has a host of rules on what you can and can't post... Although Facebook is loosening up and allowing its users to support neo n**is...
And numerous nations have now banned media sources from Russia... And its allies...
You have a problem with TikTok??? Because people posting videos must be disinformation??? When all other paths are closed, you start seeking alternatives...
Airforceone wrote:
Nope there not. But keep believing in your hero's
DONALD TRUMP/VLADIMIR PUTIN/ADOLPH HITLER THE NEW IDEOLOGY OF THE REPUBLICAN LETS JUST CALL IT THE SAVAGE PARTY THESE TRUMP SUPPORTERS REALLY LOVE WATCHING WOMEN AND CHILDREN BEING BOMBED. ITS IN THERE DNA ITS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ENJOYED WATCHING S***ES GET RAPED MURDERED WHIPPED AND CASTRATED.
I believe if you read some American history from the time prior to 1863 you will find that it was not Reps but Dems that wanted to rape, murder, whip, and castrate s***es. After Reconstruction ended it was again Dems that tried to continue the murder part. Today it is the Dem that has turned the minds of the youth into believing the Rep was responsible rape, murder, whip, and castrate s***es. Well the time is soon to be when we older folk die and the youth who are left will believe the rewritten history as presented by the Dim schools.
PeterS wrote:
And what crackdown on the media has the west done? If you want crackdowns, the more that Donald Trump lied the more he said the news organization that revealed his lies was F**E NEWS. Distrust of a source of media is as good a way of shutting it down as any. Despots follow patterns and the first thing they all do is try to do is control the narrative because people who don't think for themselves will always believe wh**ever narrative their respective ideologies dictate they should believe. This is as true for Democrats as it is for Republicans. You don't think that any Russian would believe there wasn't a war? Well, I would have never believed that any American would have believed that there was massive fraud based almost solely on the word of one man whose future depended on his followers believing there was fraud. Could anyone get them to believe any differently? NO! And I'm willing to bet the vast majority of them believe the same today.
And of course, Trump was labeling any news media that didn't paint him in a positive light as F**E long before the 2020 e******n so Trump was working on destroying trust in media from the beginning which was made all the easier because conservatives had already conditioned themselves to believe that only media that says what they want to hear as true and all else as false or F**E news and not to be trusted.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-introduce-jail-terms-spreading-f**e-information-about-army-2022-03-04/https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/28/facebook-twitter-ukraine-russia-misinformationhttps://www.npr.org/2022/02/25/1083255054/tiktok-sees-a-surge-of-misleading-videos-that-claim-to-show-the-invasion-of-ukraAnd what crackdown on the media has the west done?... (
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The only problem with your theory is that the MSM WAS INDEED publishing and pushing F**E news, lies, and distortions, as has been proven time after time in the last couple of years.
PROVEN!
And while that doesn't prove everything Trump said true of course, it most certainly does make all of your nice little analysis nothing but a couple of pounds of baloney.
Airforceone wrote:
Nope there not. But keep believing in your hero's
DONALD TRUMP/VLADIMIR PUTIN/ADOLPH HITLER THE NEW IDEOLOGY OF THE REPUBLICAN LETS JUST CALL IT THE SAVAGE PARTY THESE TRUMP SUPPORTERS REALLY LOVE WATCHING WOMEN AND CHILDREN BEING BOMBED. ITS IN THERE DNA ITS THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ENJOYED WATCHING S***ES GET RAPED MURDERED WHIPPED AND CASTRATED.
You mean the democrats right? Or are you trying to rewrite history.
Airforceone wrote:
These people believe only what Donald Trump and Putin tell them. I had a Trump support yesterday made the comment (DID YOU HEAR PUTIN TALK HE HAS A VALID ARGUMENT FOR INVADING THE UKRAINE HES ONLY TRYING TO PREVENT THE N**IE PARTY FROM TALKING HOLD IN THE UKRAINE)
Now what kind of an insane comment is that but these people believe it.
Apparently you only believe what the Main Stream Propaganda tell you.
PeterS wrote:
So what lies have I said? List them and I will apologize...
That there was no e******n f***d for starters
PeterS wrote:
And what crackdown on the media has the west done? If you want crackdowns, the more that Donald Trump lied the more he said the news organization that revealed his lies was F**E NEWS. Distrust of a source of media is as good a way of shutting it down as any. Despots follow patterns and the first thing they all do is try to do is control the narrative because people who don't think for themselves will always believe wh**ever narrative their respective ideologies dictate they should believe. This is as true for Democrats as it is for Republicans. You don't think that any Russian would believe there wasn't a war? Well, I would have never believed that any American would have believed that there was massive fraud based almost solely on the word of one man whose future depended on his followers believing there was fraud. Could anyone get them to believe any differently? NO! And I'm willing to bet the vast majority of them believe the same today.
And of course, Trump was labeling any news media that didn't paint him in a positive light as F**E long before the 2020 e******n so Trump was working on destroying trust in media from the beginning which was made all the easier because conservatives had already conditioned themselves to believe that only media that says what they want to hear as true and all else as false or F**E news and not to be trusted.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-introduce-jail-terms-spreading-f**e-information-about-army-2022-03-04/https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/28/facebook-twitter-ukraine-russia-misinformationhttps://www.npr.org/2022/02/25/1083255054/tiktok-sees-a-surge-of-misleading-videos-that-claim-to-show-the-invasion-of-ukraAnd what crackdown on the media has the west done?... (
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Do you really believe all the dung that you post?
Our media has lied about Trump for the last 6 years and C***d ** for the last 2 years and you believe in all of it. I feel pity for you and your ignorance.
PeterS wrote:
Putin called any news organization that used the words 'war' or 'invasion' in their newscasts as F**e News but what is truly scary is that when Moscow residents were interviewed by ABC news and those who supported Putin wouldn't even believe there was a war paralleling Trump and his followers here in the US who were willing to storm the Capitol based on the lies that he said. This is what happens when people decide to believe in lies and the people who speak them over the t***h and those who tell it!
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Actually he sounds more like democrats than like Trump. Did you not notice his calling those who disagree with him "N**is and Marxists" ?
The end result was that the Ukrainians had helped weaken an American president who, unlike Obama, gave them arms to defend themselves against the Russians. More seriously, they reinforced Putin’s view that, especially in partnership with the Democrats, Ukraine did not understand its true place in the world as a buffer state—and would continue to allow themselves to be used as an instrument by policymakers whose combination of narcissism and fecklessness made them particularly prone to dangerous miscalculations. The 2020 e******n victory of Joe Biden, a man whose family had been paid by the Ukrainians to protect them, can have done little to quiet Putin’s sense that Ukraine needed to be put in its place before it was used yet again as a weapon against him.
From the perspective of the U.S. national security establishment, Biden’s victory over Trump signaled that its actions in Ukraine would stay hidden. So long as the media continued to bark that the 45th president of the United States is Putin’s stooge, no one would be held accountable for anything. Except, as it turns out, D.C. political operatives aren’t the only people who can make history. Putin can, too. And the people of Ukraine will come out much the worse for both of their efforts.”
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