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So why didn't Trump push for a wall during his first two years when Republicans held both houses of Congress?
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Feb 25, 2022 21:24:29   #
PeterS
 
Tiptop789 wrote:
You're incorrect (per usual)

You guys are shifting the topic as is usual with you fallacy-minded conservative's. Wh**ever Trump diverted from the military was a drop in the bucket that he needed to finish HIS wall. So again, the question is why didn't Trump get this done when he had both the house and senate in his back pocket and he had an actual shot at getting HIS wall?

Stick to the topic and if you can't then at least have the courtesy to bow out.

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Feb 25, 2022 21:30:01   #
Airforceone
 
JFlorio wrote:
Couldn’t been to much of a mess liar. It’s way worse under Biden. So what is Biden doing right that Trump did wrong?


Trump did nothing Biden is in the beginning of major sanctions. All Trump did was agree with Putin.

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Feb 25, 2022 21:33:25   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Wasn’t there lawsuits from environmental groups and others that halted quite a bit of construction? Point being, Trump was correct. We should have a wall among other deterrents. Those on the other side, whether, Republicans or Democrats have been proven wrong. Unless, of course you are good with millions of third world, not vetted, possibly disease carrying, uneducated, i******s, depleting our finite resources.

PeterS wrote:
You guys are shifting the topic as is usual with you fallacy-minded conservative's. Wh**ever Trump diverted from the military was a drop in the bucket that he needed to finish HIS wall. So again, the question is why didn't Trump get this done when he had both the house and senate in his back pocket and he had an actual shot at getting HIS wall?

Stick to the topic and if you can't then at least have the courtesy to bow out.

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Feb 25, 2022 21:58:12   #
PeterS
 
JFlorio wrote:
Couldn’t been to much of a mess liar. It’s way worse under Biden. So what is Biden doing right that Trump did wrong?

How is it 'way worse' under Biden? What would Trump have done to stymie inflation, address the economy, and do anything to address C***d? Trump's failure to understand the most basic function of our government is the reason there is no wall along our southern border. You are asking how someone who was too arrogant to ask, even amongst his own administration, how they could get this legislation passed can somehow be turned into a president who can do more than lie and blame his failures on Democrats? Well, that's all Trump knows how to do. He could have sought to pass legislation to cover the funding of the wall but he would have to ask his administration to get a proposal together--something that he could give to the speaker and McConnell to get the ball rolling. But Trump couldn't even do that so how do you think he could actually affect change when he couldn't do it when he had both chambers of congress?

As for Biden. Biden is today being blamed because there is no border wall while the one thing that's been established is that it was Trump's failure to use the house and senate to his and your advantage, during his first two years, that is responsible for there being no border wall today. Trump failed so you blame Biden. Is there any part of that that I've gotten wrong? Other than crawling up Putin's ass there is nothing that Trump could do any better than Biden...

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Feb 25, 2022 22:27:11   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
What a low I.Q. rant. Trump wouldn’t have reduced drilling and fracking. Causing a huge jump in goods and services costs. He wouldn’t have kept dumping trillions in the economy when there’s a supply chain problem. Exploding inflation. He wouldn’t have supported C***d mandates that helped facilitate the supply chain problem. C***d? More have died under Biden per/month than did under Trump. You have just reminded me of what a dimwitted waste of time you are. I don’t even like Trump but can defend what he did correctly. Biden’s a disaster. Only the i***ts don’t admit it.

PeterS wrote:
How is it 'way worse' under Biden? What would Trump have done to stymie inflation, address the economy, and do anything to address C***d? Trump's failure to understand the most basic function of our government is the reason there is no wall along our southern border. You are asking how someone who was too arrogant to ask, even amongst his own administration, how they could get this legislation passed can somehow be turned into a president who can do more than lie and blame his failures on Democrats? Well, that's all Trump knows how to do. He could have sought to pass legislation to cover the funding of the wall but he would have to ask his administration to get a proposal together--something that he could give to the speaker and McConnell to get the ball rolling. But Trump couldn't even do that so how do you think he could actually affect change when he couldn't do it when he had both chambers of congress?

As for Biden. Biden is today being blamed because there is no border wall while the one thing that's been established is that it was Trump's failure to use the house and senate to his and your advantage, during his first two years, that is responsible for there being no border wall today. Trump failed so you blame Biden. Is there any part of that that I've gotten wrong? Other than crawling up Putin's ass there is nothing that Trump could do any better than Biden...
How is it 'way worse' under Biden? What would Trum... (show quote)

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Feb 25, 2022 22:31:06   #
PeterS
 
JFlorio wrote:
Wasn’t there lawsuits from environmental groups and others that halted quite a bit of construction? Point being, Trump was correct. We should have a wall among other deterrents. Those on the other side, whether, Republicans or Democrats have been proven wrong. Unless, of course you are good with millions of third world, not vetted, possibly disease carrying, uneducated, i******s, depleting our finite resources.

So if Trump was correct then why didn't he try to his pass the legislation necessary to stop i******s from depleting our precious resources? Why are you relying on Democrats to do the job that Trump should have done?

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Feb 25, 2022 22:34:23   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
PeterS wrote:
So if Trump was correct then why didn't he try to his pass the legislation necessary to stop i******s from depleting our precious resources?


He did. Legislation starts in Congress. Being a populist, Trump wasn’t much loved by the Republican establishment. The problem at the border is much, much, worse under Biden. If you can’t admit that, you’re hopeless.
Quite a bit of wall got built with much more material ready to go. It’s rusting out in the weather under i***t Joe.

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Feb 25, 2022 22:37:27   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Airforceone wrote:
Trump did nothing Biden is in the beginning of major sanctions. All Trump did was agree with Putin.


Another lie. Go have a drink.

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Feb 25, 2022 23:40:26   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JFlorio wrote:
What a low I.Q. rant. Trump wouldn’t have reduced drilling and fracking. Causing a huge jump in goods and services costs. He wouldn’t have kept dumping trillions in the economy when there’s a supply chain problem. Exploding inflation. He wouldn’t have supported C***d mandates that helped facilitate the supply chain problem. C***d? More have died under Biden per/month than did under Trump. You have just reminded me of what a dimwitted waste of time you are. I don’t even like Trump but can defend what he did correctly. Biden’s a disaster. Only the i***ts don’t admit it.
What a low I.Q. rant. Trump wouldn’t have reduced ... (show quote)



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Feb 26, 2022 05:58:54   #
rjoeholl
 
PeterS wrote:
Well, he didn't borrow it and the military didn't give it to him so if 'stealing' isn't the word then tell us what is...


As commander in chief, President Trump WAS the military.

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Feb 26, 2022 06:31:02   #
American Vet
 
JFlorio wrote:
https://www.fox47news.com/news/national/court-ruling-allows-trump-administration-to-use-3-6-billion-in-military-funds-for-border-wall


Thanks - you beat me to it!!

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Feb 26, 2022 06:32:56   #
American Vet
 
PeterS wrote:
Well, he didn't borrow it and the military didn't give it to him so if 'stealing' isn't the word then tell us what is...


LOL

As Commander in Chief, he is the military. And he is authorized to use "military money" to protect the nation. That's what he did. Read the SCOTUS ruling.

Now you know "what is".

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Feb 26, 2022 06:39:14   #
American Vet
 
PeterS wrote:
How is it 'way worse' under Biden? .


I*****l i*********n soars under Biden to third-highest in 97 years
https://news.yahoo.com/illegal-immigration-soars-under-biden-200400500.html

Soaring i*****l i*********n during Biden's first year
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10543563/Illegal-immigration-Bidens-year-drives-foreign-born-population-new-high.html

And let's not forget to mention the F******l scourge coming in as well;
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/f******l-seizures-u-s-southern-border-rise-dramatically-n1272676

[b] And, for good measure, I will throw in biden's other "accomplishments":

Afghanistan debacle

Rampant inflation

Ending our energy independence and made us beggars to OPEC

Attempting to cut parents out of the educational system: Ordering the DoJ to get inappropriately involved.

"Sanctuary Cities"

Defund the police

Believe the woman (unless she is accusing a democrat)

Creating "climate crisis"

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Feb 26, 2022 06:42:29   #
American Vet
 
PeterS wrote:
You guys are shifting the topic as is usual with you fallacy-minded conservative's. Wh**ever Trump diverted from the military was a drop in the bucket that he needed to finish HIS wall. So again, the question is why didn't Trump get this done when he had both the house and senate in his back pocket and he had an actual shot at getting HIS wall?

Stick to the topic and if you can't then at least have the courtesy to bow out.


Haven't been paying attention, have you....

Your fallacy is thinking President Trump had both Houses: He was saddled with some Republicans who didn't like him as well.

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Feb 26, 2022 14:05:57   #
nonalien1 Loc: Mojave Desert
 
PeterS wrote:
Simple question especially now that Biden is uniformly being blamed by Republicans for our lack of a wall today. Instead of pointing your finger at Biden why don't you point your fingers at all the Republicans, in both houses, that are the real ones responsible for our lack of a wall today...that and a president who never really pushed for it until Democrats took back the house and he could use it as nothing more than a political whipping horse as Republicans are continuing to do today!



I agree that the republicans we're part of the problem In wall construction. In Trump's first two years almost no one in Congress was behind President Trump. But they seen him getting things done. By the time most republicans got behind him it was mid term e******ns . Then the republicans joined him some reluctantly. If you can't remember what happened 5 years back why ask questions you won't remember anyway?

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