336Robin Loc: North Carolina

It makes perfect sense that if you do something you're liable for it. Nothing special just liable. This is a self policing system of regulation in which lawyers do the heavy lifting. Trump should pay for what he did and if he is guilty of starting the i**********n there should also be charges coming.

Again is makes perfect sense that if he is responsible for the i**********n and people were k**led he is an accessory to murder. End of story. Another one bites the dust.



INSIDER
Federal judge rules that Trump can be sued over the Capitol r**t and does not have absolute immunity
Sonam Sheth
Fri, February 18, 2022, 4:58 PM
Former President Donald Trump.
Former President Donald Trump.Evan Vucci/AP




A federal judge ruled that Trump can be held civilly liable for the Capitol r**t.

He also said Trump does not have absolute immunity from civil suits.

"The court well understands the gravity of its decision," the ruling said. "But the alleged facts of this case are without precedent."

A federal judge ruled on Friday that former President Donald Trump can be held civilly liable for the deadly Capitol r**t on J****** 6, 2021.

Trump's speech before his supporters stormed the Capitol, during which he called on them to "fight like hell" against the 2020 e******n results, "can reasonably be viewed as a call for collective action," US District Judge Amit Mehta wrote in a 112-page ruling. He pointed to specific statements in which Trump used the word "we," including:

"We will not take it anymore."

"We will stop the steal."

"We will never give up."

"We will never concede."

"All Mike Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify, and we become president."

"We're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue."

The word "we" being "used repeatedly in this context implies that the President and rally-goers would be acting together toward a common goal," Mehta wrote. "That is the essence of a civil conspiracy."

The focus of Mehta's ruling were three civil lawsuits brought against Trump by Democratic lawmakers and C*****l P****e officers who defended the building on J****** 6.

The judge ruled on Friday that Trump is not immune from the litigation and can be held accountable for his actions and statements related to the Capitol r**t. Mehta acknowledged the import of his decision but said that the events of J****** 6 were unprecedented.

"To deny a President immunity from civil damages is no small step," the ruling said. "The court well understands the gravity of its decision. But the alleged facts of this case are without precedent."

Mehta also noted that Trump was not acting in his capacity as president when he held the rally and told his supporters to march to the Capitol.

"After all, the President's actions here do not relate to his duties of faithfully executing the laws, conducting foreign affairs, commanding the armed forces, or managing the Executive Branch," the ruling said. "They entirely concern his efforts to remain in office for a second term. These are unofficial acts, so the separation-of-powers concerns that justify the President's broad immunity are not present here."

The judge also said that the allegations in the civil lawsuits against Trump are enough to establish "a plausible ... conspiracy involving President Trump." That conspiracy includes the far-right groups P***d B**s and O**h K****rs and others who stormed the Capitol on J****** 6, Mehta added.

He highlighted that a "civil conspiracy" does not require an express agreement between those involved.

"A tacit agreement — one that is 'implied or indicated ... but not actually expressed' — is enough," the ruling said. "The key is that the conspirators share the same general conspiratorial objective, or a single plan the essential nature and general scope of which is known to all conspirators."

Friday's ruling is a major blow to Trump and comes in the wake of several other legal losses. On Thursday, a Manhattan judge ruled that Trump and his two eldest children, Donald Jr. and Ivanka, must sit for depositions in the New York attorney general Tish James' ongoing investigation into whether the Trump Organization violated banking, tax, and insurance laws.

And earlier this week, Trump's longtime accounting firm cut ties with him after concluding that, in the wake of James' recent findings, ten years of Trump's financial statements "should no longer be relied upon."

Read the original article on Business Insider

Liberty Tree

NWR NWR

336Robin Loc: North Carolina

You're acronyms are known only to you but here is something you might need to consider:

https://www.findlaw.com/smallbusiness/business-laws-and-regulations/civil-conspiracy.html

The first step is Civil Conspiracy which opens him up to personal accountability to those harmed by his actions.

The second step is if the conspiracy is a part of an ongoing crime.

That might not be so hard to prove given the crimes of the e*****rs to strip the states of their duly elected results by the use of f**e e*****rs.

It will certainly be looked at I can guarantee that so wh**ever your NWR means. It an abbreviated form of we have nothing more we can say because Trump is guilty as hell.

American Vet

Liberty Tree

Not worth reading, not worth response

Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon

trumps time is coming. There is no way he should get away with what he did.

336Robin Loc: North Carolina

YDKWYTA

Figure that one out big boy! lol

Smedley_buzkill

I**********n my ass. You wouldn't know an i**********n if one bit yours. Only the cops had guns. The only shots fired were by the C*****l P****e Gestapo and the only person k**led was one small, visibly unarmed woman who was murdered by one of the Porcine Police, who was then "investigated" and "cleared" without his name ever being released.

son of witless

Calling for a demonstration is not criminal. That an element decided to criminally r**t does not make President Trump responsible.

336Robin Loc: North Carolina

You can have wh**ever opinion you want but the court might not agree with it.

So let's have them do their job and see how it shakes out. Trump can now be sued for that thing that you say didn't happen by the way. Criminal charges may also be attached if they connect him to an ongoing illegal action like trying to steal an e******n. If that isn't illegal then maybe we need to revisit some of our laws.

336Robin Loc: North Carolina

I guess you need to explain that to the judge. He is the one who said that Trump could be held accountable to the people injured at the i**********n because his statements met all of the tests for civil liability.

Go to it.

son of witless

That only allows the lawsuits to go forward. It does not mean the plaintiffs will win. The people who committed the acts of violence are solely responsible for their own actions.

Show me where politicians and donors supporting the anti police r**ts were successfully sued for the damages.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

An interesting article in The Guardian, (those that want to read can look it up) the i**********n on J** 6th was because the c**p failed. The c**pwas for Pence to refuse to certify the week e*****rs sending the e******n back to the House of Representatives who would v**e for Trump, Republicans had a numerical superiority in the House. Trump also wanted DOJ to declare the v**es false. Barr refused and resigned. The acting attorney grenersl refused. Pence refused to go along with the plan. The military refused to confiscate the V****g machines.

Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

They don’t know how many had guns because few were checked.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

That's all you can think to comment? Come up with something new.