Evolution is not a debate.
Feb 9, 2022 20:44:20 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
I've gone through that phase too 
Over here they BBQ them with chili peppers, garlic, and potato noodles... Delicious
Over here they BBQ them with chili peppers, garlic, and potato noodles... Delicious
A stroke ended my phase though my son takes me to a Chinese place every now and then that has smoked oysters to die for. My wife won't take me because she says they will make me die. Eh, if you got to go, enjoying what k**ls you seems the way to do it...
Feb 9, 2022 20:51:18 #
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Atheists should perhaps rethink their Godless universe position and at least give consideration to the possibility that there is, indeed, an intelligence in charge of things.
The reason for this is that in a truly Darwinian Universe such as they envision, There are a number of brainless Liberal Atheists here on OPP that would become as extinct as the Dodo Bird faster than you can say "Origin of Species."
The reason for this is that in a truly Darwinian Universe such as they envision, There are a number of brainless Liberal Atheists here on OPP that would become as extinct as the Dodo Bird faster than you can say "Origin of Species."
We are all going to become extinct--the only question is what becomes of the human race which is in our hands and no one else...
Feb 9, 2022 21:24:09 #
PeterS wrote:
A stroke ended my phase though my son takes me to a Chinese place every now and then that has smoked oysters to die for. My wife won't take me because she says they will make me die. Eh, if you got to go, enjoying what k**ls you seems the way to do it...
Yep...Good way to go
Feb 9, 2022 21:35:00 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
Obviously you've never heard of Parmenides ( i &qu... (show quote)
First off, where do you get the idea that life without God has no purpose? If you need a god to have purpose what kind of pathetic person are you? You don't find purpose in the job that you do, the woman that you marry, the children you raise, or the grandchildren that you get to see grow? No invisible magician in the sky did that in spite of what you've been brainwashed to believe.
Purpose is what you create. The only question is does the product of that purpose benefit humanity or destroy it? So what is it Blade? Is your purpose singular or the multiple of multiples, for the benefit of all humanity...even that part that disgusts you the most? My bet is, you in it only for yourself and if you have a family, sometimes I've doubted it, you've taught them to be singular, in it only for themselves...humanity be damned.
Is that the purpose you think only a God can give you? Thank god I avoided that...
Feb 9, 2022 21:35:34 #
PeterS wrote:
Gosh, and all you evangelical folks try to do is u... (show quote)
Why do you troll? You’re not trying to start a debate.
Feb 9, 2022 21:36:40 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yep...Good way to go
You've got me thinking about your BBQ version now. Damn, I'm getting hungry and I just ate!
Feb 9, 2022 21:38:38 #
Rose42 wrote:
Why do you troll? You’re not trying to start a debate.
I've answered the questions posed. If you think that's trolling then maybe you better look up the term Debate...
Feb 9, 2022 21:43:33 #
PeterS wrote:
You've got me thinking about your BBQ version now. Damn, I'm getting hungry and I just ate!
easy to make at home too
Feb 9, 2022 21:55:03 #
PeterS wrote:
Gosh, and all you evangelical folks try to do is u... (show quote)
The problem you encounter is not what you present. It is your presentational attitude.
Feb 10, 2022 02:30:45 #
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Obviously you've never heard of Parmenides ("Ex nihilo nihil fit"), Lucretius, Aristotle, Plato, Thomas Aquinas, John Philoponus, St. Bonaventure, or the Medieval Muslim scholars, Al-Kindi and Al-Ghazali.
Yeah, and does throwing their names around somehow negate the premise of the meme? Is the only thing you can do is provide a red-herring for me to chase? Just so there is no discussion of the fallacies your religion is built upon you've succeeded in your 'purpose'? Is that the purpose your God gave you? Hide the t***h so ignorance can prevail? Well, it seems you are succeeding...
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Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
The universe began to exist.
Therefore, the universe was caused to exist.
The universe began to exist.
Therefore, the universe was caused to exist.
True.
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Something caused to exist has a purpose,
the universe was caused to exist,
therefore, the universe has a purpose.
the universe was caused to exist,
therefore, the universe has a purpose.
1) How does something coming into existence suddenly create a purpose for it? You go from a truism to complete bulls**t.
2) It's very likely that a multiverse is the best explanation for our universe. So you are saying that an infinite number of universes have purposes? Why?
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To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Ecclesiastes 3: 1
Ecclesiastes 3: 1
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"Then we shall be able to take part in the discussion of the question of why it is that we and the universe exist.
If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of God. . . . . ."
Stephen Hawking
If we find the answer to that, it would be the ultimate triumph of human reason - for then we would know the mind of God. . . . . ."
Stephen Hawking
And what do you think this means?
Snip>>>On Tuesday, Stephen Hawking's final, posthumous book "Brief Answers to the Big Questions" was released, detailing final thoughts the physicist had on the biggest questions humankind faces.
In the book, Hawking wrote "there is no God." But it's not the first time the scientist, who died in March, has shared his belief on the subject.
"There is no God," wrote Hawking, as reported by CNN. "No one directs the universe."
Hawking expands on that premise more deeply, based on an excerpt of the book published by the U.K.'s Sunday Times:
"The question is, is the way the universe began chosen by God for reasons we can’t understand or was it determined by a law of science? I believe the second," wrote Hawking. "If you like, you can call the laws of science 'God', but it wouldn’t be a personal God that you would meet and put questions to."
These were Hawkings last published thoughts. I'll take this over any other 'proofs of god' you can dig up. So if no one directs the universe and there is no purpose...do we make our own purpose or give up and walk away?
Feb 10, 2022 04:11:33 #
Blade_Runner wrote:
br Obviously you've never heard of Parmenides (&q... (show quote)
PeterS wrote:
You certainly create some interesting fantasies about other people's lives and beliefs. First off, where do you get the idea that life wit... (show quote)
It's a shame you are never even remotely close to the t***h.
Far too many self-serving assumptions and subjective conjecture.
I suppose conjuring up these grotesque images of others helps you cope.
The following quote is from The Devils Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions, by David Berlinski, agnostic, PhD , scientist, taught philosophy, mathematics and English at Stanford University, Rutgers, the City University of New York and the Université de Paris. He was a research fellow at the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis (IIASA) in Austria and the Institut des Hautes Études Scientifiques (IHES) in France. Author of 26 books on science, mathematics, evolution, systems analysis, the history of differential topology, analytic philosophy, and the philosophy of mathematics.
“Has anyone provided proof of God’s inexistence? Not even close. Has quantum cosmology explained the emergence of the universe or why it is here? Not even close. Have our sciences explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life? Not even close. Are physicists and biologists willing to believe in anything so long as it is not religious thought? Close enough. Has rationalism and moral thought provided us with an understanding of what is good, what is right, and what is moral? Not close enough. Has secularism in the terrible 20th century been a force for good? Not even close, to being close. Is there a narrow and oppressive orthodoxy in the sciences? Close enough. Does anything in the sciences or their philosophy justify the claim that religious belief is irrational? Not even in the ball park. Is scientific atheism a frivolous exercise in intellectual contempt? Dead on.”
Feb 10, 2022 05:52:10 #
PeterS wrote:
Aquatic Huminid Theory eh? That explains why I love oysters! There was a time I couldn't eat enough of them.
You probably suck and swallow your own snot too.
Feb 10, 2022 05:53:45 #
PeterS wrote:
I've answered the questions posed. If you think that's trolling then maybe you better look up the term Debate...
You post silly memes to incite not spark debate. Thats trolling
Feb 10, 2022 11:19:36 #
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