A microcosm: This forum is a microcosm of what is happening throughout the country. Many people profess to be of high moral character, but their actions usually prove to be otherwise.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

This forum is a microcosm of what is happening throughout the country. Many people profess to be of high moral character, but their actions usually prove to be otherwise. Many people proclaim that their belief structure (political, moral, religious or ethical) is the supreme one above all others and must be instituted across the land as the common denominator.
A vocal minority in the United States (currently a misnomer) believes that the country was founded as a "Christian nation." In fact, many (if not most) of the founders were "deists" … believing in a supreme being, but not any particular religion or sect. In addition, many different sects populated the original colonies … Quakers, Anabaptists, Puritans, Catholics, and a host of others. They could not have ever agreed on a unified dogma for the country, and reluctantly agreed to unify for common defense and mutual trade. They did not try to impose their moral values on their neighbors and that was usually reciprocal. In fact, that is the reason for the First Amendment, which reads … "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..."
And yet, we have a portion of our citizenry who march through the streets of Charlottesville, shouting "Jews will not replace us." We have a portion of our citizenry that, while purporting to be legislating for the common good and eliminating v***r f***d, are actively suppressing minority v****g capabilities. We have a portion of our citizenry that is scared that they are losing their privileged status, and are being overrun by black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, and L***Q people.
In fact their fears are well founded. The United States is predicted to be a minority majority country by mid-century. The number of regular churchgoers is decreasing every year. The younger generation no longer is as wedded to religion as their parents once were. This is scary to that privileged class, and they are fighting back to preserve that privilege, by making it more difficult for any but w***e A******ns to v**e and hold positions of power.
There will be cries of protest over what I just wrote. They will claim that there was massive v***r f***d in the last e******n (which has been proven innumerable times to be a falsehood). They will proclaim that the states have a better handle on how to legislate for their population.
The era between Reconstruction following the Civil War (which wasn't civil at all) until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was an eighty year period of suppression of b****s in the south, and the institution of pseudo-s***ery based on economics and intimidation. In other words, not much changed after the Civil War except for the actual legal definition of owning some other human being.
This included intimidating b****s to not v**e, by way of lynching, house burning and the KKK. "Know your place, son!" was a common refrain. This was theoretically put out of business in 1965 with the V****g Rights Act. In reality, while it put an end to formal discrimination in the v****g booth, it never accomplished its' goal … it merely papered over the racial hostility that had never gone away since the Civil War.
It worked (kindof) until:
"On June 25, 2013, the United States Supreme Court held that it is unconstitutional to use the coverage formula in Section 4(b) of the V****g Rights Act to determine which jurisdictions are subject to the preclearance requirement of Section 5 of the V****g Rights Act, Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. 529 (2013). The Supreme Court did not rule on the constitutionality of Section 5 itself. The effect of the Shelby County decision is that the jurisdictions identified by the coverage formula in Section 4(b) no longer need to seek preclearance for the new v****g changes, unless they are covered by a separate court order entered under Section 3(c) of the V****g Rights Act." Wikipedia.
The last five years have ripped the scab off of that racial wound that has beset our country for two hundred years.
The former president, while never directly espousing r****m, managed to encourage white m*****a groups, as well as promoting (never directly) w***e s*******y. Republican-controlled states have enacted restictive laws making it much more difficult for minorities to v**e, thus insuring a Republican-led government for generations. In addition, these legislators have given to themselves the power to overturn e******n results on the specious allegation (not proof) of v***r f***d.
It would seem that the well-founded fear of losing white privilege has totally driven our country into warring camps that are engaging in rhetorical combat (for the time being) with no quarter given. A prime example of that is the v**e last night in the U.S. Senate, where a unified Republican minority (plus two Democratic defectors) defeated a bill designed to reimplement the section of the V****g Rights Act that the Supreme Court invalidated. This would have k**led the restrictions on v****g that have pervaded Republican-controlled states. Now (at least for the time being), the return to the repressive and discriminatory e******n tactics of the post Civil War will insure that only white Republican Senators, Representatives, and probably a President, will be the future in those states. One of the more hypocritical facets of this dispute was that the Republicans in the Senate backed the reauthorization of the V****g Rights Act five times in the past, yet are now unanimously opposed.
From a basic moral premise, this seems wrong. The Biblical principle of “And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.”Luke 6:31. It would seem these days there has been added an unwritten exception to the Golden Rule that says "unless they are black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, or L***Q".
A friend of mine says that they have a vision of God reading a report on the human race on Earth, marked "Experiment failed." Another friend claims that there is probably a series of satellites out beyond the orbit of Pluto that broadcast a message to all alien races coming close to our system: "Warning. Hostile life forms capable of nuclear explosions. Enter at your own risk."
<putting on my flak jacket and preparing to be attacked visciously for telling the t***h>

Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle

whitnebrat wrote:

This forum is a microcosm of what is happening throughout the country. Many people profess to be of high moral character, but their actions usually prove to be otherwise. Many people proclaim that their belief structure (political, moral, religious or ethical) is the supreme one above all others and must be instituted across the land as the common denominator.
A vocal minority in the United States (currently a misnomer) believes that the country was founded as a "Christian nation." In fact, many (if not most) of the founders were "deists" … believing in a supreme being, but not any particular religion or sect. In addition, many different sects populated the original colonies … Quakers, Anabaptists, Puritans, Catholics, and a host of others. They could not have ever agreed on a unified dogma for the country, and reluctantly agreed to unify for common defense and mutual trade. They did not try to impose their moral values on their neighbors and that was usually reciprocal. In fact, that is the reason for the First Amendment, which reads … "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..."
And yet, we have a portion of our citizenry who march through the streets of Charlottesville, shouting "Jews will not replace us." We have a portion of our citizenry that, while purporting to be legislating for the common good and eliminating v***r f***d, are actively suppressing minority v****g capabilities. We have a portion of our citizenry that is scared that they are losing their privileged status, and are being overrun by black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, and L***Q people.
In fact their fears are well founded. The United States is predicted to be a minority majority country by mid-century. The number of regular churchgoers is decreasing every year. The younger generation no longer is as wedded to religion as their parents once were. This is scary to that privileged class, and they are fighting back to preserve that privilege, by making it more difficult for any but w***e A******ns to v**e and hold positions of power.
There will be cries of protest over what I just wrote. They will claim that there was massive v***r f***d in the last e******n (which has been proven innumerable times to be a falsehood). They will proclaim that the states have a better handle on how to legislate for their population.
The era between Reconstruction following the Civil War (which wasn't civil at all) until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was an eighty year period of suppression of b****s in the south, and the institution of pseudo-s***ery based on economics and intimidation. In other words, not much changed after the Civil War except for the actual legal definition of owning some other human being.
This included intimidating b****s to not v**e, by way of lynching, house burning and the KKK. "Know your place, son!" was a common refrain. This was theoretically put out of business in 1965 with the V****g Rights Act. In reality, while it put an end to formal discrimination in the v****g booth, it never accomplished its' goal … it merely papered over the racial hostility that had never gone away since the Civil War.
It worked (kindof) until:
"On June 25, 2013, the United States Supreme Court held that it is unconstitutional to use the coverage formula in Section 4(b) of the V****g Rights Act to determine which jurisdictions are subject to the preclearance requirement of Section 5 of the V****g Rights Act, Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. 529 (2013). The Supreme Court did not rule on the constitutionality of Section 5 itself. The effect of the Shelby County decision is that the jurisdictions identified by the coverage formula in Section 4(b) no longer need to seek preclearance for the new v****g changes, unless they are covered by a separate court order entered under Section 3(c) of the V****g Rights Act." Wikipedia.
The last five years have ripped the scab off of that racial wound that has beset our country for two hundred years.
The former president, while never directly espousing r****m, managed to encourage white m*****a groups, as well as promoting (never directly) w***e s*******y. Republican-controlled states have enacted restictive laws making it much more difficult for minorities to v**e, thus insuring a Republican-led government for generations. In addition, these legislators have given to themselves the power to overturn e******n results on the specious allegation (not proof) of v***r f***d.
It would seem that the well-founded fear of losing white privilege has totally driven our country into warring camps that are engaging in rhetorical combat (for the time being) with no quarter given. A prime example of that is the v**e last night in the U.S. Senate, where a unified Republican minority (plus two Democratic defectors) defeated a bill designed to reimplement the section of the V****g Rights Act that the Supreme Court invalidated. This would have k**led the restrictions on v****g that have pervaded Republican-controlled states. Now (at least for the time being), the return to the repressive and discriminatory e******n tactics of the post Civil War will insure that only white Republican Senators, Representatives, and probably a President, will be the future in those states. One of the more hypocritical facets of this dispute was that the Republicans in the Senate backed the reauthorization of the V****g Rights Act five times in the past, yet are now unanimously opposed.
From a basic moral premise, this seems wrong. The Biblical principle of “And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.”Luke 6:31. It would seem these days there has been added an unwritten exception to the Golden Rule that says "unless they are black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, or L***Q".
A friend of mine says that they have a vision of God reading a report on the human race on Earth, marked "Experiment failed." Another friend claims that there is probably a series of satellites out beyond the orbit of Pluto that broadcast a message to all alien races coming close to our system: "Warning. Hostile life forms capable of nuclear explosions. Enter at your own risk."
<putting on my flak jacket and preparing to be attacked visciously for telling the t***h>

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Sonny Magoo Loc: Where pot pie is boiled in a kettle

Such revisions are generally laughed at here.
For good reason. They're loaded with junk.

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

whitnebrat wrote:

This forum is a microcosm of what is happening throughout the country. Many people profess to be of high moral character, but their actions usually prove to be otherwise. Many people proclaim that their belief structure (political, moral, religious or ethical) is the supreme one above all others and must be instituted across the land as the common denominator.
A vocal minority in the United States (currently a misnomer) believes that the country was founded as a "Christian nation." In fact, many (if not most) of the founders were "deists" … believing in a supreme being, but not any particular religion or sect. In addition, many different sects populated the original colonies … Quakers, Anabaptists, Puritans, Catholics, and a host of others. They could not have ever agreed on a unified dogma for the country, and reluctantly agreed to unify for common defense and mutual trade. They did not try to impose their moral values on their neighbors and that was usually reciprocal. In fact, that is the reason for the First Amendment, which reads … "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..."
And yet, we have a portion of our citizenry who march through the streets of Charlottesville, shouting "Jews will not replace us." We have a portion of our citizenry that, while purporting to be legislating for the common good and eliminating v***r f***d, are actively suppressing minority v****g capabilities. We have a portion of our citizenry that is scared that they are losing their privileged status, and are being overrun by black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, and L***Q people.
In fact their fears are well founded. The United States is predicted to be a minority majority country by mid-century. The number of regular churchgoers is decreasing every year. The younger generation no longer is as wedded to religion as their parents once were. This is scary to that privileged class, and they are fighting back to preserve that privilege, by making it more difficult for any but w***e A******ns to v**e and hold positions of power.
There will be cries of protest over what I just wrote. They will claim that there was massive v***r f***d in the last e******n (which has been proven innumerable times to be a falsehood). They will proclaim that the states have a better handle on how to legislate for their population.
The era between Reconstruction following the Civil War (which wasn't civil at all) until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was an eighty year period of suppression of b****s in the south, and the institution of pseudo-s***ery based on economics and intimidation. In other words, not much changed after the Civil War except for the actual legal definition of owning some other human being.
This included intimidating b****s to not v**e, by way of lynching, house burning and the KKK. "Know your place, son!" was a common refrain. This was theoretically put out of business in 1965 with the V****g Rights Act. In reality, while it put an end to formal discrimination in the v****g booth, it never accomplished its' goal … it merely papered over the racial hostility that had never gone away since the Civil War.
It worked (kindof) until:
"On June 25, 2013, the United States Supreme Court held that it is unconstitutional to use the coverage formula in Section 4(b) of the V****g Rights Act to determine which jurisdictions are subject to the preclearance requirement of Section 5 of the V****g Rights Act, Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. 529 (2013). The Supreme Court did not rule on the constitutionality of Section 5 itself. The effect of the Shelby County decision is that the jurisdictions identified by the coverage formula in Section 4(b) no longer need to seek preclearance for the new v****g changes, unless they are covered by a separate court order entered under Section 3(c) of the V****g Rights Act." Wikipedia.
The last five years have ripped the scab off of that racial wound that has beset our country for two hundred years.
The former president, while never directly espousing r****m, managed to encourage white m*****a groups, as well as promoting (never directly) w***e s*******y. Republican-controlled states have enacted restictive laws making it much more difficult for minorities to v**e, thus insuring a Republican-led government for generations. In addition, these legislators have given to themselves the power to overturn e******n results on the specious allegation (not proof) of v***r f***d.
It would seem that the well-founded fear of losing white privilege has totally driven our country into warring camps that are engaging in rhetorical combat (for the time being) with no quarter given. A prime example of that is the v**e last night in the U.S. Senate, where a unified Republican minority (plus two Democratic defectors) defeated a bill designed to reimplement the section of the V****g Rights Act that the Supreme Court invalidated. This would have k**led the restrictions on v****g that have pervaded Republican-controlled states. Now (at least for the time being), the return to the repressive and discriminatory e******n tactics of the post Civil War will insure that only white Republican Senators, Representatives, and probably a President, will be the future in those states. One of the more hypocritical facets of this dispute was that the Republicans in the Senate backed the reauthorization of the V****g Rights Act five times in the past, yet are now unanimously opposed.
From a basic moral premise, this seems wrong. The Biblical principle of “And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.”Luke 6:31. It would seem these days there has been added an unwritten exception to the Golden Rule that says "unless they are black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, or L***Q".
A friend of mine says that they have a vision of God reading a report on the human race on Earth, marked "Experiment failed." Another friend claims that there is probably a series of satellites out beyond the orbit of Pluto that broadcast a message to all alien races coming close to our system: "Warning. Hostile life forms capable of nuclear explosions. Enter at your own risk."
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Not from me! You make some valid points. I recently read that our solar system sits in the middle of a bubble 100 million light years in diameter. Looks like that part of your comment (about the aliens) is true. I can't disagree with the rest either. Others (the ones that proclaim they're right because God is watching & directing this country) will be chastising you shortly. Some also seen to think Trump was chosen by God (not sure why God would choose so despicable an individual), be like picking Lucifer to guard the gates to heaven.

TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!

whitnebrat wrote:

This forum is a microcosm of what is happening throughout the country. Many people profess to be of high moral character, but their actions usually prove to be otherwise. Many people proclaim that their belief structure (political, moral, religious or ethical) is the supreme one above all others and must be instituted across the land as the common denominator.
A vocal minority in the United States (currently a misnomer) believes that the country was founded as a "Christian nation." In fact, many (if not most) of the founders were "deists" … believing in a supreme being, but not any particular religion or sect. In addition, many different sects populated the original colonies … Quakers, Anabaptists, Puritans, Catholics, and a host of others. They could not have ever agreed on a unified dogma for the country, and reluctantly agreed to unify for common defense and mutual trade. They did not try to impose their moral values on their neighbors and that was usually reciprocal. In fact, that is the reason for the First Amendment, which reads … "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..."
And yet, we have a portion of our citizenry who march through the streets of Charlottesville, shouting "Jews will not replace us." We have a portion of our citizenry that, while purporting to be legislating for the common good and eliminating v***r f***d, are actively suppressing minority v****g capabilities. We have a portion of our citizenry that is scared that they are losing their privileged status, and are being overrun by black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, and L***Q people.
In fact their fears are well founded. The United States is predicted to be a minority majority country by mid-century. The number of regular churchgoers is decreasing every year. The younger generation no longer is as wedded to religion as their parents once were. This is scary to that privileged class, and they are fighting back to preserve that privilege, by making it more difficult for any but w***e A******ns to v**e and hold positions of power.
There will be cries of protest over what I just wrote. They will claim that there was massive v***r f***d in the last e******n (which has been proven innumerable times to be a falsehood). They will proclaim that the states have a better handle on how to legislate for their population.
The era between Reconstruction following the Civil War (which wasn't civil at all) until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was an eighty year period of suppression of b****s in the south, and the institution of pseudo-s***ery based on economics and intimidation. In other words, not much changed after the Civil War except for the actual legal definition of owning some other human being.
This included intimidating b****s to not v**e, by way of lynching, house burning and the KKK. "Know your place, son!" was a common refrain. This was theoretically put out of business in 1965 with the V****g Rights Act. In reality, while it put an end to formal discrimination in the v****g booth, it never accomplished its' goal … it merely papered over the racial hostility that had never gone away since the Civil War.
It worked (kindof) until:
"On June 25, 2013, the United States Supreme Court held that it is unconstitutional to use the coverage formula in Section 4(b) of the V****g Rights Act to determine which jurisdictions are subject to the preclearance requirement of Section 5 of the V****g Rights Act, Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. 529 (2013). The Supreme Court did not rule on the constitutionality of Section 5 itself. The effect of the Shelby County decision is that the jurisdictions identified by the coverage formula in Section 4(b) no longer need to seek preclearance for the new v****g changes, unless they are covered by a separate court order entered under Section 3(c) of the V****g Rights Act." Wikipedia.
The last five years have ripped the scab off of that racial wound that has beset our country for two hundred years.
The former president, while never directly espousing r****m, managed to encourage white m*****a groups, as well as promoting (never directly) w***e s*******y. Republican-controlled states have enacted restictive laws making it much more difficult for minorities to v**e, thus insuring a Republican-led government for generations. In addition, these legislators have given to themselves the power to overturn e******n results on the specious allegation (not proof) of v***r f***d.
It would seem that the well-founded fear of losing white privilege has totally driven our country into warring camps that are engaging in rhetorical combat (for the time being) with no quarter given. A prime example of that is the v**e last night in the U.S. Senate, where a unified Republican minority (plus two Democratic defectors) defeated a bill designed to reimplement the section of the V****g Rights Act that the Supreme Court invalidated. This would have k**led the restrictions on v****g that have pervaded Republican-controlled states. Now (at least for the time being), the return to the repressive and discriminatory e******n tactics of the post Civil War will insure that only white Republican Senators, Representatives, and probably a President, will be the future in those states. One of the more hypocritical facets of this dispute was that the Republicans in the Senate backed the reauthorization of the V****g Rights Act five times in the past, yet are now unanimously opposed.
From a basic moral premise, this seems wrong. The Biblical principle of “And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.”Luke 6:31. It would seem these days there has been added an unwritten exception to the Golden Rule that says "unless they are black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, or L***Q".
A friend of mine says that they have a vision of God reading a report on the human race on Earth, marked "Experiment failed." Another friend claims that there is probably a series of satellites out beyond the orbit of Pluto that broadcast a message to all alien races coming close to our system: "Warning. Hostile life forms capable of nuclear explosions. Enter at your own risk."
<putting on my flak jacket and preparing to be attacked visciously for telling the t***h>

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It would be much easier to read this article if you would double space your paragraphs where they are indicated. I have no doubt they were before your copy and paste.

There is much more OPINION than there is t***h in this small book……….In my opinion, of course! LOL!

American Vet

whitnebrat wrote:

In fact, many (if not most) of the founders were "deists" … believing in a supreme being, but not any particular religion or sect.

I quit reading after this often rebutted, incorrect comment.

One of the more kooky revisionist claims is that our Founding Fathers were Deists
https://americanvision.org/2971/were-the-founders-deists/

According to Adherents.com which focuses on statistical data relating to many religions around the world, nearly all of the signers of the Articles of Confederation, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were Protestants with Charles Carroll, Daniel Carroll, and Thomas Fitzsimons being the 3 Catholics among the groups mentioned. The breakdown of religious affiliation is as follows:

Episcopalian/Anglican – 88 -54.7%
Presbyterian – 30 – 18.6%
Congregationalist – 27 – 16.8%
Quaker – 7 – 4.3%
Dutch Reformed/German Reformed – 6 – 3.7%
Lutheran – 5 – 3.1%
Catholic – 3 – 1.9%
Huguenot – 3 – 1.9%
Unitarian – 3 – 1.9%
Methodist – 2 – 1.2%
Calvinist – 1 – 0.6%

Liberty Tree

American Vet wrote:

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You beat me to it. I was going to address the false claim of deist.

WEBCO

whitnebrat wrote:

This forum is a microcosm of what is happening throughout the country. Many people profess to be of high moral character, but their actions usually prove to be otherwise. Many people proclaim that their belief structure (political, moral, religious or ethical) is the supreme one above all others and must be instituted across the land as the common denominator.
A vocal minority in the United States (currently a misnomer) believes that the country was founded as a "Christian nation." In fact, many (if not most) of the founders were "deists" … believing in a supreme being, but not any particular religion or sect. In addition, many different sects populated the original colonies … Quakers, Anabaptists, Puritans, Catholics, and a host of others. They could not have ever agreed on a unified dogma for the country, and reluctantly agreed to unify for common defense and mutual trade. They did not try to impose their moral values on their neighbors and that was usually reciprocal. In fact, that is the reason for the First Amendment, which reads … "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..."
And yet, we have a portion of our citizenry who march through the streets of Charlottesville, shouting "Jews will not replace us." We have a portion of our citizenry that, while purporting to be legislating for the common good and eliminating v***r f***d, are actively suppressing minority v****g capabilities. We have a portion of our citizenry that is scared that they are losing their privileged status, and are being overrun by black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, and L***Q people.
In fact their fears are well founded. The United States is predicted to be a minority majority country by mid-century. The number of regular churchgoers is decreasing every year. The younger generation no longer is as wedded to religion as their parents once were. This is scary to that privileged class, and they are fighting back to preserve that privilege, by making it more difficult for any but w***e A******ns to v**e and hold positions of power.
There will be cries of protest over what I just wrote. They will claim that there was massive v***r f***d in the last e******n (which has been proven innumerable times to be a falsehood). They will proclaim that the states have a better handle on how to legislate for their population.
The era between Reconstruction following the Civil War (which wasn't civil at all) until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was an eighty year period of suppression of b****s in the south, and the institution of pseudo-s***ery based on economics and intimidation. In other words, not much changed after the Civil War except for the actual legal definition of owning some other human being.
This included intimidating b****s to not v**e, by way of lynching, house burning and the KKK. "Know your place, son!" was a common refrain. This was theoretically put out of business in 1965 with the V****g Rights Act. In reality, while it put an end to formal discrimination in the v****g booth, it never accomplished its' goal … it merely papered over the racial hostility that had never gone away since the Civil War.
It worked (kindof) until:
"On June 25, 2013, the United States Supreme Court held that it is unconstitutional to use the coverage formula in Section 4(b) of the V****g Rights Act to determine which jurisdictions are subject to the preclearance requirement of Section 5 of the V****g Rights Act, Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. 529 (2013). The Supreme Court did not rule on the constitutionality of Section 5 itself. The effect of the Shelby County decision is that the jurisdictions identified by the coverage formula in Section 4(b) no longer need to seek preclearance for the new v****g changes, unless they are covered by a separate court order entered under Section 3(c) of the V****g Rights Act." Wikipedia.
The last five years have ripped the scab off of that racial wound that has beset our country for two hundred years.
The former president, while never directly espousing r****m, managed to encourage white m*****a groups, as well as promoting (never directly) w***e s*******y. Republican-controlled states have enacted restictive laws making it much more difficult for minorities to v**e, thus insuring a Republican-led government for generations. In addition, these legislators have given to themselves the power to overturn e******n results on the specious allegation (not proof) of v***r f***d.
It would seem that the well-founded fear of losing white privilege has totally driven our country into warring camps that are engaging in rhetorical combat (for the time being) with no quarter given. A prime example of that is the v**e last night in the U.S. Senate, where a unified Republican minority (plus two Democratic defectors) defeated a bill designed to reimplement the section of the V****g Rights Act that the Supreme Court invalidated. This would have k**led the restrictions on v****g that have pervaded Republican-controlled states. Now (at least for the time being), the return to the repressive and discriminatory e******n tactics of the post Civil War will insure that only white Republican Senators, Representatives, and probably a President, will be the future in those states. One of the more hypocritical facets of this dispute was that the Republicans in the Senate backed the reauthorization of the V****g Rights Act five times in the past, yet are now unanimously opposed.
From a basic moral premise, this seems wrong. The Biblical principle of “And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.”Luke 6:31. It would seem these days there has been added an unwritten exception to the Golden Rule that says "unless they are black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, or L***Q".
A friend of mine says that they have a vision of God reading a report on the human race on Earth, marked "Experiment failed." Another friend claims that there is probably a series of satellites out beyond the orbit of Pluto that broadcast a message to all alien races coming close to our system: "Warning. Hostile life forms capable of nuclear explosions. Enter at your own risk."
<putting on my flak jacket and preparing to be attacked visciously for telling the t***h>

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Why do you assume that white people arre privileged? Please explain how they are privileged. Since discrimination is only legal AGAINST white people.

Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

whitnebrat wrote:

This forum is a microcosm of what is happening throughout the country. Many people profess to be of high moral character, but their actions usually prove to be otherwise. Many people proclaim that their belief structure (political, moral, religious or ethical) is the supreme one above all others and must be instituted across the land as the common denominator.
A vocal minority in the United States (currently a misnomer) believes that the country was founded as a "Christian nation." In fact, many (if not most) of the founders were "deists" … believing in a supreme being, but not any particular religion or sect. In addition, many different sects populated the original colonies … Quakers, Anabaptists, Puritans, Catholics, and a host of others. They could not have ever agreed on a unified dogma for the country, and reluctantly agreed to unify for common defense and mutual trade. They did not try to impose their moral values on their neighbors and that was usually reciprocal. In fact, that is the reason for the First Amendment, which reads … "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..."
And yet, we have a portion of our citizenry who march through the streets of Charlottesville, shouting "Jews will not replace us." We have a portion of our citizenry that, while purporting to be legislating for the common good and eliminating v***r f***d, are actively suppressing minority v****g capabilities. We have a portion of our citizenry that is scared that they are losing their privileged status, and are being overrun by black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, and L***Q people.
In fact their fears are well founded. The United States is predicted to be a minority majority country by mid-century. The number of regular churchgoers is decreasing every year. The younger generation no longer is as wedded to religion as their parents once were. This is scary to that privileged class, and they are fighting back to preserve that privilege, by making it more difficult for any but w***e A******ns to v**e and hold positions of power.
There will be cries of protest over what I just wrote. They will claim that there was massive v***r f***d in the last e******n (which has been proven innumerable times to be a falsehood). They will proclaim that the states have a better handle on how to legislate for their population.
The era between Reconstruction following the Civil War (which wasn't civil at all) until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was an eighty year period of suppression of b****s in the south, and the institution of pseudo-s***ery based on economics and intimidation. In other words, not much changed after the Civil War except for the actual legal definition of owning some other human being.
This included intimidating b****s to not v**e, by way of lynching, house burning and the KKK. "Know your place, son!" was a common refrain. This was theoretically put out of business in 1965 with the V****g Rights Act. In reality, while it put an end to formal discrimination in the v****g booth, it never accomplished its' goal … it merely papered over the racial hostility that had never gone away since the Civil War.
It worked (kindof) until:
"On June 25, 2013, the United States Supreme Court held that it is unconstitutional to use the coverage formula in Section 4(b) of the V****g Rights Act to determine which jurisdictions are subject to the preclearance requirement of Section 5 of the V****g Rights Act, Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. 529 (2013). The Supreme Court did not rule on the constitutionality of Section 5 itself. The effect of the Shelby County decision is that the jurisdictions identified by the coverage formula in Section 4(b) no longer need to seek preclearance for the new v****g changes, unless they are covered by a separate court order entered under Section 3(c) of the V****g Rights Act." Wikipedia.
The last five years have ripped the scab off of that racial wound that has beset our country for two hundred years.
The former president, while never directly espousing r****m, managed to encourage white m*****a groups, as well as promoting (never directly) w***e s*******y. Republican-controlled states have enacted restictive laws making it much more difficult for minorities to v**e, thus insuring a Republican-led government for generations. In addition, these legislators have given to themselves the power to overturn e******n results on the specious allegation (not proof) of v***r f***d.
It would seem that the well-founded fear of losing white privilege has totally driven our country into warring camps that are engaging in rhetorical combat (for the time being) with no quarter given. A prime example of that is the v**e last night in the U.S. Senate, where a unified Republican minority (plus two Democratic defectors) defeated a bill designed to reimplement the section of the V****g Rights Act that the Supreme Court invalidated. This would have k**led the restrictions on v****g that have pervaded Republican-controlled states. Now (at least for the time being), the return to the repressive and discriminatory e******n tactics of the post Civil War will insure that only white Republican Senators, Representatives, and probably a President, will be the future in those states. One of the more hypocritical facets of this dispute was that the Republicans in the Senate backed the reauthorization of the V****g Rights Act five times in the past, yet are now unanimously opposed.
From a basic moral premise, this seems wrong. The Biblical principle of “And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.”Luke 6:31. It would seem these days there has been added an unwritten exception to the Golden Rule that says "unless they are black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, or L***Q".
A friend of mine says that they have a vision of God reading a report on the human race on Earth, marked "Experiment failed." Another friend claims that there is probably a series of satellites out beyond the orbit of Pluto that broadcast a message to all alien races coming close to our system: "Warning. Hostile life forms capable of nuclear explosions. Enter at your own risk."
<putting on my flak jacket and preparing to be attacked visciously for telling the t***h>

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There is really no way to refute such revisionism and wild speculations. This is a rather incoherent and episodic meaningless mass of text, what the Rangers call a "word fit".

The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States
Benjamin Franklin Morris' book has been out of print for over 100 years. If you can find an original copy, it's only because you have looked in the deep recesses of university libraries where the volume is likely collecting dust on dimly lit library shelves. Organizations like the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State have done their best to ignore the content of the massive compilation of original source material found in this book. If Americans ever become aware of the facts assembled by the author in this historic encyclopedia of knowledge, arguments for a secular founding of America will turn to dust. Don't miss out on the fantastic wealth of information this 1000+ page book has in store. Your children and grandchildren are not being taught the t***h of history in public school, and this book will correct that travesty! Christian Life and Character could very well be responsible for the rediscovering of the t***h of America's foundation in Christianity. This book should be the cornerstone of any personal, professional, church or school library.

BIBLE IN AMERICAN SCHOOLS 1700-1900

A Journey to the End of the Universe
Astronomy Professor David Kipping explains why interstellar and intergalactic travel by living creatures to even the nearest star would be problematic.

David Berlinski is an agnostic with an impressive science resume. In his reply to atheist Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion, Berlinski wrote The Devil's Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions. Here is a quote:

“Has anyone provided proof of God’s inexistence? Not even close. Has quantum cosmology explained the emergence of the universe or why it is here? Not even close. Have our sciences explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life? Not even close. Are physicists and biologists willing to believe in anything so long as it is not religious thought? Close enough. Has rationalism and moral thought provided us with an understanding of what is good, what is right, and what is moral? Not close enough. Has secularism in the terrible 20th century been a force for good? Not even close, to being close. Is there a narrow and oppressive orthodoxy in the sciences? Close enough. Does anything in the sciences or their philosophy justify the claim that religious belief is irrational? Not even in the ball park. Is scientific atheism a frivolous exercise in intellectual contempt? Dead on.”
― David Berlinski,

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

WEBCO wrote:

Why do you assume that white people are privileged? Please explain how they are privileged. Since discrimination is only legal AGAINST white people.

Privileged? W****s?
Not in any lines, seating, hearings, courts, government buildings, theaters, busses, trains, airplanes, medical facilities, stores, sports venues, hotels, restaurants, parks, cities, states or any other places we use or travel in.
Not by the government.
Not by the military.
Not in any housing.
Not in elective offices.
Not in employment.
Not anywhere I know of except in my home, which is my castle. There, I am privileged by the Constitution, as is everyone!

I am having a hard time here trying to find our just where else I am so privileged. Can anyone help?

Isn't it so that all citizens have the freedoms and liberty promised us?

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Blade_Runner wrote:

There is really no way to refute such revisionism and wild speculations. This is a rather incoherent and episodic meaningless mass of text, what the Rangers call a "word fit".

The Christian Life and Character of the Civil Institutions of the United States
Benjamin Franklin Morris' book has been out of print for over 100 years. If you can find an original copy, it's only because you have looked in the deep recesses of university libraries where the volume is likely collecting dust on dimly lit library shelves. Organizations like the ACLU and Americans United for Separation of Church and State have done their best to ignore the content of the massive compilation of original source material found in this book. If Americans ever become aware of the facts assembled by the author in this historic encyclopedia of knowledge, arguments for a secular founding of America will turn to dust. Don't miss out on the fantastic wealth of information this 1000+ page book has in store. Your children and grandchildren are not being taught the t***h of history in public school, and this book will correct that travesty! Christian Life and Character could very well be responsible for the rediscovering of the t***h of America's foundation in Christianity. This book should be the cornerstone of any personal, professional, church or school library.

BIBLE IN AMERICAN SCHOOLS 1700-1900

A Journey to the End of the Universe
Astronomy Professor David Kipping explains why interstellar and intergalactic travel by living creatures to even the nearest star would be problematic.

David Berlinski is an agnostic with an impressive science resume. In his reply to atheist Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion, Berlinski wrote The Devil's Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions. Here is a quote:

“Has anyone provided proof of God’s inexistence? Not even close. Has quantum cosmology explained the emergence of the universe or why it is here? Not even close. Have our sciences explained why our universe seems to be fine-tuned to allow for the existence of life? Not even close. Are physicists and biologists willing to believe in anything so long as it is not religious thought? Close enough. Has rationalism and moral thought provided us with an understanding of what is good, what is right, and what is moral? Not close enough. Has secularism in the terrible 20th century been a force for good? Not even close, to being close. Is there a narrow and oppressive orthodoxy in the sciences? Close enough. Does anything in the sciences or their philosophy justify the claim that religious belief is irrational? Not even in the ball park. Is scientific atheism a frivolous exercise in intellectual contempt? Dead on.”
― David Berlinski,

There is really no way to refute such revisionism ... (show quote)

Tiptop789 Loc: State of Denial

manning5 wrote:

Privileged? W****s? br Not in any lines, seating, ... (show quote)

You don't remember signs that read "white only" & "black only"? Things have changed (maybe) but attitudes charge slowly.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

whitnebrat wrote:

This forum is a microcosm of what is happening throughout the country. Many people profess to be of high moral character, but their actions usually prove to be otherwise. Many people proclaim that their belief structure (political, moral, religious or ethical) is the supreme one above all others and must be instituted across the land as the common denominator.
A vocal minority in the United States (currently a misnomer) believes that the country was founded as a "Christian nation." In fact, many (if not most) of the founders were "deists" … believing in a supreme being, but not any particular religion or sect. In addition, many different sects populated the original colonies … Quakers, Anabaptists, Puritans, Catholics, and a host of others. They could not have ever agreed on a unified dogma for the country, and reluctantly agreed to unify for common defense and mutual trade. They did not try to impose their moral values on their neighbors and that was usually reciprocal. In fact, that is the reason for the First Amendment, which reads … "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; ..."
And yet, we have a portion of our citizenry who march through the streets of Charlottesville, shouting "Jews will not replace us." We have a portion of our citizenry that, while purporting to be legislating for the common good and eliminating v***r f***d, are actively suppressing minority v****g capabilities. We have a portion of our citizenry that is scared that they are losing their privileged status, and are being overrun by black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, and L***Q people.
In fact their fears are well founded. The United States is predicted to be a minority majority country by mid-century. The number of regular churchgoers is decreasing every year. The younger generation no longer is as wedded to religion as their parents once were. This is scary to that privileged class, and they are fighting back to preserve that privilege, by making it more difficult for any but w***e A******ns to v**e and hold positions of power.
There will be cries of protest over what I just wrote. They will claim that there was massive v***r f***d in the last e******n (which has been proven innumerable times to be a falsehood). They will proclaim that the states have a better handle on how to legislate for their population.
The era between Reconstruction following the Civil War (which wasn't civil at all) until the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was an eighty year period of suppression of b****s in the south, and the institution of pseudo-s***ery based on economics and intimidation. In other words, not much changed after the Civil War except for the actual legal definition of owning some other human being.
This included intimidating b****s to not v**e, by way of lynching, house burning and the KKK. "Know your place, son!" was a common refrain. This was theoretically put out of business in 1965 with the V****g Rights Act. In reality, while it put an end to formal discrimination in the v****g booth, it never accomplished its' goal … it merely papered over the racial hostility that had never gone away since the Civil War.
It worked (kindof) until:
"On June 25, 2013, the United States Supreme Court held that it is unconstitutional to use the coverage formula in Section 4(b) of the V****g Rights Act to determine which jurisdictions are subject to the preclearance requirement of Section 5 of the V****g Rights Act, Shelby County v. Holder, 570 U.S. 529 (2013). The Supreme Court did not rule on the constitutionality of Section 5 itself. The effect of the Shelby County decision is that the jurisdictions identified by the coverage formula in Section 4(b) no longer need to seek preclearance for the new v****g changes, unless they are covered by a separate court order entered under Section 3(c) of the V****g Rights Act." Wikipedia.
The last five years have ripped the scab off of that racial wound that has beset our country for two hundred years.
The former president, while never directly espousing r****m, managed to encourage white m*****a groups, as well as promoting (never directly) w***e s*******y. Republican-controlled states have enacted restictive laws making it much more difficult for minorities to v**e, thus insuring a Republican-led government for generations. In addition, these legislators have given to themselves the power to overturn e******n results on the specious allegation (not proof) of v***r f***d.
It would seem that the well-founded fear of losing white privilege has totally driven our country into warring camps that are engaging in rhetorical combat (for the time being) with no quarter given. A prime example of that is the v**e last night in the U.S. Senate, where a unified Republican minority (plus two Democratic defectors) defeated a bill designed to reimplement the section of the V****g Rights Act that the Supreme Court invalidated. This would have k**led the restrictions on v****g that have pervaded Republican-controlled states. Now (at least for the time being), the return to the repressive and discriminatory e******n tactics of the post Civil War will insure that only white Republican Senators, Representatives, and probably a President, will be the future in those states. One of the more hypocritical facets of this dispute was that the Republicans in the Senate backed the reauthorization of the V****g Rights Act five times in the past, yet are now unanimously opposed.
From a basic moral premise, this seems wrong. The Biblical principle of “And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.”Luke 6:31. It would seem these days there has been added an unwritten exception to the Golden Rule that says "unless they are black, brown, yellow, non-Christian, or L***Q".
A friend of mine says that they have a vision of God reading a report on the human race on Earth, marked "Experiment failed." Another friend claims that there is probably a series of satellites out beyond the orbit of Pluto that broadcast a message to all alien races coming close to our system: "Warning. Hostile life forms capable of nuclear explosions. Enter at your own risk."
<putting on my flak jacket and preparing to be attacked visciously for telling the t***h>

This forum is a microcosm of what is happening thr... (show quote)

I had to quit reading that compilation of bull schitt about half way through. Now I'll need something to settle my stomach before lunch after reading that cesspool of lies.

manning5 Loc: Richmond, VA

Tiptop789 wrote:

You don't remember signs that read "white only" & "black only"? Things have changed (maybe) but attitudes charge slowly.

If you are living in the past, you are carrying a long-time grudge against those people of yore. But you shouldn't have a grudge against me today, I haven't differentiated myself, or made anyone use a different door, or wh**ever!

I treat everyone the same. If they are not mannered, if they are not clean, if I can't understand what they say, they get short shrift. If they are reasonably presentable, I treat them with normal courtesy. And never mind what color they are. If that is what you refer to as attitude, so be it. Just note that the attitude holds for everyone.

whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon

manning5 wrote:

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If you are as presented, this does not apply to you ... however there are many people out there to whom it does apply. The systemic discrimination exists, and there's no getting around that. The w***e s*******y ideology exists and there's no getting around that either. If the shoe fits, wear it. If not, then ignore it.