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We all have a basic and natural Temperament, probably since birth. Yet "nurture" can temper, exacerbate or reduce the primal influence
Jan 18, 2022 00:36:14   #
rumitoid
 
The point most important to make is that we are each unique in every way. There is no less or more in uniqueness. Unique means "being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else; incomparable to any comparisons." This is God's brilliant sense of diversity and spirit, creativity. No one is the same as another. I feel that is difficult to comprehend for many. Science has a very strict system to classify all living things. We are Homo Sapiens Sapiens. This is our designated species.

"Homo sapiens sapiens, in anthropology and paleontology, the subspecies of Homo sapiens that consists of the only living members of genus Homo, modern human beings. Traditionally, this subspecies designation was used by paleontologists and anthropologists to separate modern human beings from more-archaic members of Homo sapiens. H. s. sapiens is thought to have evolved sometime between 160,000 and 90,000 years ago in Africa before migrating first to the Middle East and Europe and later to Asia, Australia, and the Americas."

Yet that says absolutely nothing about who we are in our daily existence; we are not homogeneous: the extremes are both frightening and inspiring, and the middle is usually somewhat perplexing, predictable and complicated. What does it matter? Such is life.

I am using this thread as something of a apology. I do not honor other views as often as I may need to.

It seems we are all born with our biases: can we blame anyone? But of course we can, as Christians we are duty bound to rebuke those who stray from the Gospel and preach or act counter from its teachings. We are to judge. That never means to castigate or condemn them, which the Bible specifically warns against. And it also requires that elders of the church agree to approach an individual together in observed and witnessed behavior, not gossip. The point of their confrontation scripturally commands us to show respect in order to properly educate and encourage those that stray.

The love Jesus spoke of in treating our neighbor and enemy alike; that is our primary and ultimate attitude. That is what changes hearts. We all can get wild hairs occasionally and lose sight of the goal: to be as Christ was in this world. Our temperaments often persuade us to be contrary for various reasons. We are unique for God's intricate plan to save us all...if we open our eyes and listen to Spirit. Do I always do that? No! Yet I know that is the way.

Right now I feel that only Christians can save America from the chaos and lies of Satan. We need to be of "one spirit." I will try but I need your help. My opinions about the observed behavior of the Right too often castigates their opinions. I need to be more loving period. My temperament seems to obligate me to an adversarial stance. Maybe I can learn from being an a**hole a better way to deal. For me, I feel we might all need AA, an attitude adjustment.

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Jan 18, 2022 01:34:33   #
JW
 
rumitoid wrote:
The point most important to make is that we are each unique in every way. There is no less or more in uniqueness. Unique means "being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else; incomparable to any comparisons." This is God's brilliant sense of diversity and spirit, creativity. No one is the same as another. I feel that is difficult to comprehend for many. Science has a very strict system to classify all living things. We are Homo Sapiens Sapiens. This is our designated species.

"Homo sapiens sapiens, in anthropology and paleontology, the subspecies of Homo sapiens that consists of the only living members of genus Homo, modern human beings. Traditionally, this subspecies designation was used by paleontologists and anthropologists to separate modern human beings from more-archaic members of Homo sapiens. H. s. sapiens is thought to have evolved sometime between 160,000 and 90,000 years ago in Africa before migrating first to the Middle East and Europe and later to Asia, Australia, and the Americas."

Yet that says absolutely nothing about who we are in our daily existence; we are not homogeneous: the extremes are both frightening and inspiring, and the middle is usually somewhat perplexing, predictable and complicated. What does it matter? Such is life.

I am using this thread as something of a apology. I do not honor other views as often as I may need to.

It seems we are all born with our biases: can we blame anyone? But of course we can, as Christians we are duty bound to rebuke those who stray from the Gospel and preach or act counter from its teachings. We are to judge. That never means to castigate or condemn them, which the Bible specifically warns against. And it also requires that elders of the church agree to approach an individual together in observed and witnessed behavior, not gossip. The point of their confrontation scripturally commands us to show respect in order to properly educate and encourage those that stray.

The love Jesus spoke of in treating our neighbor and enemy alike; that is our primary and ultimate attitude. That is what changes hearts. We all can get wild hairs occasionally and lose sight of the goal: to be as Christ was in this world. Our temperaments often persuade us to be contrary for various reasons. We are unique for God's intricate plan to save us all...if we open our eyes and listen to Spirit. Do I always do that? No! Yet I know that is the way.

Right now I feel that only Christians can save America from the chaos and lies of Satan. We need to be of "one spirit." I will try but I need your help. My opinions about the observed behavior of the Right too often castigates their opinions. I need to be more loving period. My temperament seems to obligate me to an adversarial stance. Maybe I can learn from being an a**hole a better way to deal. For me, I feel we might all need AA, an attitude adjustment.
The point most important to make is that we are ea... (show quote)


Not to take anything away from your apology; the best way to understand the nature/nurture issue is to think of an NBA star player. Nature gave him his upper and lower limitations; nurture determines where between those two extremes he performs. So it is with all aspects of our persons; physical and mental. We are born with an operating range of possibilities. Where we operate is subject to our abilities to learn and understand.

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Jan 18, 2022 03:30:39   #
Jlw Loc: Wisconsin
 
JW wrote:
Not to take anything away from your apology; the best way to understand the nature/nurture issue is to think of an NBA star player. Nature gave him his upper and lower limitations; nurture determines where between those two extremes he performs. So it is with all aspects of our persons; physical and mental. We are born with an operating range of possibilities. Where we operate is subject to our abilities to learn and understand.

You Sir are most correct

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Jan 18, 2022 06:37:57   #
Liberty Tree
 
rumitoid wrote:
The point most important to make is that we are each unique in every way. There is no less or more in uniqueness. Unique means "being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else; incomparable to any comparisons." This is God's brilliant sense of diversity and spirit, creativity. No one is the same as another. I feel that is difficult to comprehend for many. Science has a very strict system to classify all living things. We are Homo Sapiens Sapiens. This is our designated species.

"Homo sapiens sapiens, in anthropology and paleontology, the subspecies of Homo sapiens that consists of the only living members of genus Homo, modern human beings. Traditionally, this subspecies designation was used by paleontologists and anthropologists to separate modern human beings from more-archaic members of Homo sapiens. H. s. sapiens is thought to have evolved sometime between 160,000 and 90,000 years ago in Africa before migrating first to the Middle East and Europe and later to Asia, Australia, and the Americas."

Yet that says absolutely nothing about who we are in our daily existence; we are not homogeneous: the extremes are both frightening and inspiring, and the middle is usually somewhat perplexing, predictable and complicated. What does it matter? Such is life.

I am using this thread as something of a apology. I do not honor other views as often as I may need to.

It seems we are all born with our biases: can we blame anyone? But of course we can, as Christians we are duty bound to rebuke those who stray from the Gospel and preach or act counter from its teachings. We are to judge. That never means to castigate or condemn them, which the Bible specifically warns against. And it also requires that elders of the church agree to approach an individual together in observed and witnessed behavior, not gossip. The point of their confrontation scripturally commands us to show respect in order to properly educate and encourage those that stray.

The love Jesus spoke of in treating our neighbor and enemy alike; that is our primary and ultimate attitude. That is what changes hearts. We all can get wild hairs occasionally and lose sight of the goal: to be as Christ was in this world. Our temperaments often persuade us to be contrary for various reasons. We are unique for God's intricate plan to save us all...if we open our eyes and listen to Spirit. Do I always do that? No! Yet I know that is the way.

Right now I feel that only Christians can save America from the chaos and lies of Satan. We need to be of "one spirit." I will try but I need your help. My opinions about the observed behavior of the Right too often castigates their opinions. I need to be more loving period. My temperament seems to obligate me to an adversarial stance. Maybe I can learn from being an a**hole a better way to deal. For me, I feel we might all need AA, an attitude adjustment.
The point most important to make is that we are ea... (show quote)


We will see how long this last.

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Jan 18, 2022 07:51:32   #
liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house
 
rumitoid wrote:
The point most important to make is that we are each unique in every way. There is no less or more in uniqueness. Unique means "being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else; incomparable to any comparisons." This is God's brilliant sense of diversity and spirit, creativity. No one is the same as another. I feel that is difficult to comprehend for many. Science has a very strict system to classify all living things. We are Homo Sapiens Sapiens. This is our designated species.

"Homo sapiens sapiens, in anthropology and paleontology, the subspecies of Homo sapiens that consists of the only living members of genus Homo, modern human beings. Traditionally, this subspecies designation was used by paleontologists and anthropologists to separate modern human beings from more-archaic members of Homo sapiens. H. s. sapiens is thought to have evolved sometime between 160,000 and 90,000 years ago in Africa before migrating first to the Middle East and Europe and later to Asia, Australia, and the Americas."

Yet that says absolutely nothing about who we are in our daily existence; we are not homogeneous: the extremes are both frightening and inspiring, and the middle is usually somewhat perplexing, predictable and complicated. What does it matter? Such is life.

I am using this thread as something of a apology. I do not honor other views as often as I may need to.

It seems we are all born with our biases: can we blame anyone? But of course we can, as Christians we are duty bound to rebuke those who stray from the Gospel and preach or act counter from its teachings. We are to judge. That never means to castigate or condemn them, which the Bible specifically warns against. And it also requires that elders of the church agree to approach an individual together in observed and witnessed behavior, not gossip. The point of their confrontation scripturally commands us to show respect in order to properly educate and encourage those that stray.

The love Jesus spoke of in treating our neighbor and enemy alike; that is our primary and ultimate attitude. That is what changes hearts. We all can get wild hairs occasionally and lose sight of the goal: to be as Christ was in this world. Our temperaments often persuade us to be contrary for various reasons. We are unique for God's intricate plan to save us all...if we open our eyes and listen to Spirit. Do I always do that? No! Yet I know that is the way.

Right now I feel that only Christians can save America from the chaos and lies of Satan. We need to be of "one spirit." I will try but I need your help. My opinions about the observed behavior of the Right too often castigates their opinions. I need to be more loving period. My temperament seems to obligate me to an adversarial stance. Maybe I can learn from being an a**hole a better way to deal. For me, I feel we might all need AA, an attitude adjustment.
The point most important to make is that we are ea... (show quote)




I'll keep my primal..... I don't look good in a panty and bra set....... wanna see?

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Jan 18, 2022 10:18:53   #
Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio
 
liberalh****r wrote:
I'll keep my primal..... I don't look good in a panty and bra set....... wanna see?


Oh great , another Republican perv .

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Jan 18, 2022 18:47:03   #
rumitoid
 
JW wrote:
Not to take anything away from your apology; the best way to understand the nature/nurture issue is to think of an NBA star player. Nature gave him his upper and lower limitations; nurture determines where between those two extremes he performs. So it is with all aspects of our persons; physical and mental. We are born with an operating range of possibilities. Where we operate is subject to our abilities to learn and understand.


Very good, thank you; and I was aware.

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Jan 18, 2022 18:47:46   #
rumitoid
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
We will see how long this last.


Yup.

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Jan 18, 2022 18:48:42   #
rumitoid
 
liberalh****r wrote:
I'll keep my primal..... I don't look good in a panty and bra set....... wanna see?


Hmm, give me a second. No!

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Jan 18, 2022 20:32:01   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
The point most important to make is that we are each unique in every way. There is no less or more in uniqueness. Unique means "being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else; incomparable to any comparisons." This is God's brilliant sense of diversity and spirit, creativity. No one is the same as another. I feel that is difficult to comprehend for many. Science has a very strict system to classify all living things. We are Homo Sapiens Sapiens. This is our designated species.

"Homo sapiens sapiens, in anthropology and paleontology, the subspecies of Homo sapiens that consists of the only living members of genus Homo, modern human beings. Traditionally, this subspecies designation was used by paleontologists and anthropologists to separate modern human beings from more-archaic members of Homo sapiens. H. s. sapiens is thought to have evolved sometime between 160,000 and 90,000 years ago in Africa before migrating first to the Middle East and Europe and later to Asia, Australia, and the Americas."

Yet that says absolutely nothing about who we are in our daily existence; we are not homogeneous: the extremes are both frightening and inspiring, and the middle is usually somewhat perplexing, predictable and complicated. What does it matter? Such is life.

I am using this thread as something of a apology. I do not honor other views as often as I may need to.

It seems we are all born with our biases: can we blame anyone? But of course we can, as Christians we are duty bound to rebuke those who stray from the Gospel and preach or act counter from its teachings. We are to judge. That never means to castigate or condemn them, which the Bible specifically warns against. And it also requires that elders of the church agree to approach an individual together in observed and witnessed behavior, not gossip. The point of their confrontation scripturally commands us to show respect in order to properly educate and encourage those that stray.

The love Jesus spoke of in treating our neighbor and enemy alike; that is our primary and ultimate attitude. That is what changes hearts. We all can get wild hairs occasionally and lose sight of the goal: to be as Christ was in this world. Our temperaments often persuade us to be contrary for various reasons. We are unique for God's intricate plan to save us all...if we open our eyes and listen to Spirit. Do I always do that? No! Yet I know that is the way.

Right now I feel that only Christians can save America from the chaos and lies of Satan. We need to be of "one spirit." I will try but I need your help. My opinions about the observed behavior of the Right too often castigates their opinions. I need to be more loving period. My temperament seems to obligate me to an adversarial stance. Maybe I can learn from being an a**hole a better way to deal. For me, I feel we might all need AA, an attitude adjustment.
The point most important to make is that we are ea... (show quote)


And of course “chaos and the lies of Satan” is Trump, Right! LOL!

Perhaps you should worry about your attitude adjustment before you question anyone else’s! 🤷🏻‍♀️

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Jan 18, 2022 22:03:59   #
rumitoid
 
TexaCan wrote:
And of course is Trump, Right! LOL!

Perhaps you should worry about your attitude adjustment before you question anyone else’s! 🤷🏻‍♀️


Sadly, I use provable facts in my estimations of character. Even though I did not say that Trump was part of the “chaos and the lies of Satan,” he does fit snugly. His so-called "Big Lie" is vile and poisonous. Yes, and I do believe he is in the league of the Anti-Christ minions. Maybe a drill sergeant. Basic training for corruption and defeating democracy.

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Jan 18, 2022 22:23:49   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sadly, I use provable facts in my estimations of character. Even though I did not say that Trump was part of the “chaos and the lies of Satan,” he does fit snugly. His so-called "Big Lie" is vile and poisonous. Yes, and I do believe he is in the league of the Anti-Christ minions. Maybe a drill sergeant. Basic training for corruption and defeating democracy.


There went “love your neighbor”………..😱😂

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Jan 19, 2022 00:05:31   #
JW
 
rumitoid wrote:
Sadly, I use provable facts in my estimations of character. Even though I did not say that Trump was part of the “chaos and the lies of Satan,” he does fit snugly. His so-called "Big Lie" is vile and poisonous. Yes, and I do believe he is in the league of the Anti-Christ minions. Maybe a drill sergeant. Basic training for corruption and defeating democracy.


What IF, just, what IF..., his "big lie" isn't a lie. Think what that says about where we are as a country. That is where many of us are poised.

If it is true that Joe Biden actually won the e******n, all we need to come to grips with is that the majority of the country so h**ed Donald Trump that they willingly installed a known plagiarer, grifter and person Obama's own people openly declared to have been wrong in every step he took as VP and every decision he made.

On the other hand, if Donald Trump was the factual winner of the e******n, then the United States of America has been subjected to a c**p d'état and we have a hive of t*****rs who need to be rooted out, tried and hanged.

I do understand how difficult it is to come to terms with that. It's much simpler just to h**e Trump, isn't it.

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