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Does the Granville Sharp Rule prove the deity of Christ?
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Jan 18, 2022 16:07:39   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Rose42 wrote:
I wouldn’t bother reading the article in the OP but this is what the Granville Sharp Rule is -

Granville Sharp (1735–1813) was an English political reformer, slavery abolitionist, and Greek language scholar known for his contributions regarding the translation of New Testament Greek as it relates to the divinity of Christ. Sharp believed strongly in the deity of Christ and studied the New Testament in its original language to more ably prove Christ’s deity. The Granville Sharp Rule was first noted in 1798 in his book Remarks on the Uses of the Definitive Article in the Greek Text of the New Testament: Containing Many New Proofs of the Divinity of Christ, from Passages Which Are Wrongly Translated in the Common English Version.

The actual rule of Granville Sharp is concerned with the use of definite articles and copulative conjunctions in the New Testament. Copulative conjunctions (also called additive conjunctions) are words that join other words and indicate the relation of additional information. In English, we have one definite article, the; some copulative conjunctions are and, moreover, and also.

The Granville Sharp Rule states, “When the copulative kai connects two nouns of the same case, [viz. nouns (either substantive or adjective, or participles) of personal description, respecting office, dignity, affinity, or connexion, and attributes, properties, or qualities, good or ill], if the article ho, or any of its cases, precedes the first of the said nouns or participles, and is not repeated before the second noun or participle, the latter always relates to the same person that is expressed or described by the first noun or participle” (Remarks on the Uses of the Definitive Article, 3).

In simpler terms, the Granville Sharp Rule says that when two singular common nouns are used to describe a person, and those two nouns are joined by an additive conjunction, and the definite article precedes the first noun but not the second, then both nouns refer to the same person. This principle of semantics holds true in all languages. For example, consider this sentence:

We met with the owner and the curator of the museum, Mr. Holton.

In the preceding sentence, the definite article the is used twice, before both owner and curator. The curator is obviously Mr. Holton, but the owner could be a different person. Did we meet with one or two people? Is Mr. Holton the owner of the museum as well as the curator? The grammatical construction leaves the question open. However, the following sentence removes the ambiguity:

We met with the owner and curator of the museum, Mr. Holton.

In the second example, the definite article the is only used once, before the first noun. This means that the two nouns, joined by and, are both in apposition to the name of the person. In other words, Mr. Holton is both owner and curator. The Granville Sharp Rule makes it clear that we are referring to the same individual.

Two of the New Testament verses associated with the Granville Sharp Rule are Titus 2:13 and 2 Peter 1:1. The KJV translates Titus 2:13 as, “Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ.” In the original Greek, the words for “God” and “Savior” are joined by kai, and the definite article ho is only used once, preceding “God”; according to the Granville Sharp Rule, both God and Savior must refer to the same person, namely, Jesus Christ. The NASB 1977 renders the verse more literally: “Looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus.”

Similarly, 2 Peter 1:1 refers to “our God and Savior Jesus Christ.” Following Granville Sharp’s rule, Jesus Christ is clearly identified as both “God” and “Savior,” another example of the Bible’s teaching of the deity of Christ. The grammatical construction of the Greek makes it plain: definite article + singular noun + copulative conjunction + singular noun = the same person.

Though the Granville Sharp Rule may seem arcane, the concept has an important impact regarding Bible translation and our understanding of the nature of Christ. The New Testament passages where this rule applies highlight the deity of Jesus Christ. He is more than the Messiah; He is God.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Granville-Sharp-Rule.html
I wouldn’t bother reading the article in the OP bu... (show quote)

I try dealing with the original languages of Hebrew and Greek in the Bible as I study and even use a Reverse Interlinear Bible, a Strong's Concordance and a Webster's 1813 dictionary (to get a MUCH better and real understanding of what our English words mean) among other things but being a linguist is not my forte, I'm more of a "numbers man." But that's not to say that I don't gain new insights all the time studying the original words and what they mean.

Thanks for the info. Sounds like Granville Sharp was a very intelligent and wise man.

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Jan 18, 2022 17:52:49   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
I try dealing with the original languages of Hebrew and Greek in the Bible as I study and even use a Reverse Interlinear Bible, a Strong's Concordance and a Webster's 1813 dictionary (to get a MUCH better and real understanding of what our English words mean) among other things but being a linguist is not my forte, I'm more of a "numbers man." But that's not to say that I don't gain new insights all the time studying the original words and what they mean.

Thanks for the info. Sounds like Granville Sharp was a very intelligent and wise man.
I try dealing with the original languages of Hebre... (show quote)


He was....

Except that even other Trinitarians refuted his rule...

Doesn't surprise me that you'd admire someone who was wrong as long as they support your beliefs

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Jan 18, 2022 18:18:12   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
He was....

Except that even other Trinitarians refuted his rule...

Doesn't surprise me that you'd admire someone who was wrong as long as they support your beliefs

That's what I love about you canuckus. You make broad statements and provide nothing or other people's views to back it up. Have you ever had an original thought?

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Jan 18, 2022 18:49:35   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
That's what I love about you canuckus. You make broad statements and provide nothing or other people's views to back it up. Have you ever had an original thought?


The OP backs it up...

But you refuse to read it😂😂😂

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Jan 18, 2022 22:09:43   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
The OP backs it up...

But you refuse to read it😂😂😂

Like I said, you've never had an original thought.

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Jan 19, 2022 04:06:58   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
Like I said, you've never had an original thought.


Did you learn this at Bible camp???

"Ok kids, what do we do if someone points out our ignorance???"

"Accuse them of being obtuse and unoriginal!!!"

😂😂😂

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Jan 19, 2022 07:22:38   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Did you learn this at Bible camp???

"Ok kids, what do we do if someone points out our ignorance???"

"Accuse them of being obtuse and unoriginal!!!"

😂😂😂

I'm not the one who "read" the Bible in 90-days and learned nothing. Heck, you've never learned ANYTHING from reading the Bible. You read it like you'd read a book and depend too much on other people to tell you what's in it instead of trusting and relying on God.

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Jan 19, 2022 07:41:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
I'm not the one who "read" the Bible in 90-days and learned nothing. Heck, you've never learned ANYTHING from reading the Bible. You read it like you'd read a book and depend too much on other people to tell you what's in it instead of trusting and relying on God.


Obviously you haven't read the Bible...No need to boast about such a thing...

I love how you advocate reading scripture...Don't think...Don't question... Just assume you're right and don't worry about what the words say...

Roll on, Parky

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Jan 19, 2022 12:35:15   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Obviously you haven't read the Bible...No need to boast about such a thing...

I love how you advocate reading scripture...Don't think...Don't question... Just assume you're right and don't worry about what the words say...

Roll on, Parky

It has nothing to do with me being right. It has to do with the Holy Spirit being right.

But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don’t need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true—it is not a lie. 1 John 2:27a

But you see canuckus, you can't discern the Bible because you're not indwelt by the Holy Spirit and thus are a natural man.

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14

I suggest that you quit being so arrogant and get down on your knees and repent.

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Jan 19, 2022 21:04:54   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Parky60 wrote:
It has nothing to do with me being right. It has to do with the Holy Spirit being right.

But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don’t need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true—it is not a lie. 1 John 2:27a

But you see canuckus, you can't discern the Bible because you're not indwelt by the Holy Spirit and thus are a natural man.

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14

I suggest that you quit being so arrogant and get down on your knees and repent.
It has nothing to do with me being right. It has t... (show quote)


Apologies... I don't get on my knees for people (except when I proposed)...

Do you see the irony of quoting men to back up your position???

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Jan 19, 2022 22:34:42   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Apologies... I don't get on my knees for people (except when I proposed)...

Do you see the irony of quoting men to back up your position???


Do you understand what repentance is?

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Jan 19, 2022 22:36:00   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Do you understand what repentance is?


Yes..It's one of the areas I struggle with... Too much pride I suppose...

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Jan 20, 2022 06:57:37   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yes..It's one of the areas I struggle with... Too much pride I suppose...


An affliction we all suffer from.

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Jan 20, 2022 07:21:14   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Yes..It's one of the areas I struggle with... Too much pride I suppose...

For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks.

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Jan 20, 2022 07:38:46   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
An affliction we all suffer from.


I pray for humility... Earnestly... But it doesn't come easily to me...

My daughter has started to occasionally pray with me in the evenings... I find it amazingly calming and humbling... The responsibility of shaping such a young and innocent mind...

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