Milosia2 Loc: Cleveland Ohio

J*** 6 was by definition domestic terrorism — but here's why no one is being charged with it: experts
Sarah K. Burris
January 09, 2022

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J****** 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol (Photo by Tyler Merbler/Wikipedia)

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) enraged his own party when he described, what some call, a failed c**p at the Capitol as an example of domestic terrorism. After being attacked by Fox personality Tucker Carlson, Cruz had to come up with a reason he didn't mean what he said.

But what Cruz called it has sparked further discussion about the attack and the laws that deal with domestic terrorism in the United States. Most Republicans who agree the attack was terrorism have stayed quiet, likely fearful of former President Donald Trump, the tea party caucus or their own party v**ers who have turned increasingly right over the past decades.


MSNBC host Ayman Mohyeldin read the FBI's definition of "domestic terrorism" to further prove the point that what unfolded on J*** 6 fit the definition.

"Violent criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, radical or environmental nature," the FBI says.

National Security Council's former senior director of counterterrorism Javed Ali explained that there is a clause in the U.S. Patriot Act that that "lays out a three-part definition of what constitutes an act of domestic terrorism. So, the activity on J*** 6 or a lot of that activity fits within that definition. And a whole host of senior officials have labeled it an act of domestic terrorism. So, it definitely fits the definition."

His comments match that of former FBI counterterrorism deputy Frank Figliuzzi, who also explained on Sunday that the FBI could have done a whole host of things that would have helped on J*** 6. One of the things would be to open a "threat assessment." He noted that J*** 6 wasn't even declared a "National Security Special Event," which is done for everything from the Super Bowl to other major events or gatherings that could be a soft target for terrorism.

"Yet, the peaceful t******r of p***r was not treated even with a threat assessment, which would have allowed the FBI to gather open-source data from where? Social media. Collect source information. You could do that. Now, let's think ahead. Look at the next possible event. Open that threat assessment. Work with social media platforms, give them keywords and phrases tied to that coming event. It can all be done lawfully if they'll just get out in front of it."

He went on to say that local law enforcement desperately needs the FBI to take the baton on this and help them uncover events before they happen.


"We have to start getting ready for the potential for violence, perhaps around the midterms at statehouses, state capitols, perhaps around the issue of certifying extremely close U.S. Senate races in some key states, and I cite what those states might be. and start equipping local, county, and state law enforcement to start identifying the threats," he said.

Mohyeldin noted that charges aren't being leveled at the terrorism level, instead, the attackers are being charged with things like "entering congressional property" or "trying to disrupt congressional proceedings."

"This is one of the really difficult aspects of the domestic terrorism issue in the United States versus international terrorism," said Ali. "It's a complex legal framework to get through. There is a definition of domestic terrorism, we just talked about that. But there is no crime of domestic terrorism. Likewise, there is no list of d******c t*******t organizations like there is on the foreign side. That's why prosecutors can't bring material support charges against individuals aligned with different domestic extremist ideologies, because there's no list of these groups here in the U.S."


He explained that prosecutors would then have to use different federal laws to bring charges.

"If you look at the pool of people who have been charged and arrested, of the 725 charged, the number only seems to get bigger every week. None of the charges have the words terrorism in it," Ali continued. "There are other serious federal crimes. So, that is something prosecutors, I'm sure, have had to look at. What evidence do they have? What charges can they bring forward? Which charges will stick in court and what is the potential as they gather additional information or evidence? Could they then bring something forward under — there's a different clause known as terrorism enhancements. There's 57 different crimes under that terrorism enhancement statute. But so far, maybe outside of the crimes of destroying property at the Capitol, there doesn't seem an inclination right now to bring any of these terrorism enhancement charges."

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

America’s Justice System Says J*** 6 Was Neither A Terrorist Attack Nor An I**********n
BY: DAN O'DONNELL
JANUARY 10, 2022
5 MIN READ
US Capitol
Anyone waiting for the first hysterical 9/11 comparison on the first anniversary of J*** 6 didn’t have to wait long.

“Certain dates echo throughout history, including dates that instantly remind all who have lived through them — where they were and what they were doing when our democracy came under assault,” Vice President Kamala Harris said early Thursday morning. “Dates that occupy not only a place on our calendars, but a place in our collective memory. December 7th, 1941. September 11th, 2001. And J****** 6th, 2021.”

A few minutes later, President Biden compared it to the Civil War.

“R****rs rampaging, waving for the first time inside this Capitol, the confederate f**g that symbolized the cause to destroy America, to rip us apart,” he said. “Even during the Civil War, that never, ever happened. But it happened here in 2021.”

This, Biden gravely intoned, represented a “dagger at the throat of America, at American democracy.” It was nothing short of an “armed i**********n.”

Not an I**********n
Only it wasn’t, according to prosecutors and courts of law. Of the more than 725 people arrested and charged in connection with the J*** 6 incident, none have been charged with “r*******n or i**********n” under 18 U.S. Code § 2383.

The law, which carries a maximum sentence of 10 years in federal prison, applies to “whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any r*******n or i**********n against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto.”

If, as Biden and Harris (and pretty much every Democrat in America) suggest, the J*** 6 defendants had stormed the Capitol with the intent of overturning the results of the 2020 p**********l e******n, then why have none of them been charged with it?

Not S******n
In addition, if, as they have been alleging for a year now, this i**********n was really aimed at toppling the incoming Biden government and reinstating Donald Trump as president, then why have none of the more than 725 defendants been charged with “s*******s conspiracy” under 18 US Code § 2384?

The statute provides that “if two or more persons … conspire to o*******w, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.”

Doesn’t that behavior sound exactly like what Biden, Harris, and the rest of the Democratic Party have claimed happened on J*** 6? Didn’t a group of conspirators — egged on and perhaps even directly guided by former President Trump — take the Capitol by force in an attempt at destroying the government (as well as democracy itself)?

And if Trump — or anyone else supposedly fomenting and guiding the “i**********n” — was indeed advocating for the o*******w of the Biden government, then why have they not been charged accordingly? 18 US Code § 2385 criminalizes “advocating the o*******w of government,” which it defines as knowingly or willfully advocat[ing], abet[ting], advis[ing], or teach[ing] the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of o*******wing or destroying the government of the United States.”

Not a Terrorist Attack
After 365 days of criminal investigations, there has not been enough evidence to bring such charges against any of the more than 725 people arrested in connection with what is now hyperbolically (and laughably) considered a 9/11-like attack on the Capitol.

Were this an actual domestic terror attack, it would have been charged as such. It was not. Not one of the more than 725 J*** 6 defendants has been charged with a terror-related offense. This will undoubtedly come as a shock to Biden, Harris, and any Democrat who believes their hysterical rhetoric.

Domestic terrorism is defined in federal law as “acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State” that “appear to be intended to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping.”

If the J*** 6 “terrorists” really had brought gallows into the Capitol with the intent of h*****g then-Vice President Mike Pence if he didn’t acquiesce to their demands to stop the e*******l v**e certification, then why have none of them faced a domestic terrorism sentencing enhancement?

Under the law, such an act “calculated to influence or affect the conduct of government by intimidation or coercion, or to retaliate against government conduct” is considered a “federal crime of terrorism” and can thus be used to enhance a federal sentence.

Wasn’t the whole point of the J*** 6 “i**********n” to affect the certification of the e******n through intimidation and coercion? Why haven’t the charges or sentences reflected this?

The answer is as simple as it is predictable: The reality of J*** 6 is nowhere near Democrats’ rhetoric about it. J*** 6 was a r**t and a national embarrassment, but it was not an i**********n, an attempted c**p, or the worst attack on America since 9/11 or Pearl Harbor.

If it were, the criminal charges would have reflected it.

River Reb Loc: MS Delta

Maybe for the same reason none of your buddies in b*m and a****a didn't.

Justice101

Your post stated:

"If you look at the pool of people who have been charged and arrested, of the 725 charged, the number only seems to get bigger every week. None of the charges have the words terrorism in it,"

The reason why none of the charges have the words terrorism in it:

The FBI hasn't found any evidence that the J****** 6 assault on the US Capitol was part of an organized plot to overturn the e******n results, Reuters reported, citing law-enforcement officials.

The officials also said that the FBI has "so far found no evidence" that former President Donald Trump or "people directly around him were involved in organizing the violence," Reuters reported.

"Ninety to ninety-five percent of these are one-off cases," a former law-enforcement official familiar with the investigation told Reuters. "There was no grand scheme with Roger Stone and Alex Jones and all of these people to storm the Capitol and take hostages."

More than 570 participants have been arrested by federal officials. Investigators have found that groups such as the O**h K****rs and P***d B**s did plan ahead of time to break into the Capitol, but they didn't engage in much planning beyond that step. Reuters reported that 40 of the defendants are being prosecuted on conspiracy charges, implying a certain amount of planning and coordination.

But prosecutors have generally shied away from alleging a broader plot. Senior Department of Justice officials do not intend to bring forward s*******s-conspiracy charges or even racketeering charges, which are commonly used against organized criminal gangs.

A Democratic congressional source told Reuters that senior lawmakers who have been briefed on the FBI's investigation find the results credible.

https://news.yahoo.com/fbi-finds-no-evidence-trump-153636457.html

NONE OF THE SERIOUS CHARGES REGARDING THE R****RS INVOLVED THE MURDER OF ANYONE!!!!!

Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon

Simply a child's perspective.

currahee506

Domestic terrorism is the activity of the mobs l**ting and burning stores in downtown cities; and, the murdering of law enforcement officers. It is spearheaded by narcissistic c*******t thugs in self-proclaimed authoritative positions of power along with a complicit propaganda machine to make you think this is a "normal reaction" to "white r****m," a bogus charge a self-righteous liar devoid of intellect would make.

vernon

There is a couple of charges you failed to mention. The lady who was murdered in the capitol wasn't armed she was only standing at window when the pig murdered her and not one word from creeps like you.
But then again there was the lady who was literately beaten to death buy that bunch of scum bums.
All this was created bu your friend and my enemy Pelosi .But you don't ever seem to mention k**lers and their
leaders. There are 3 c*****l p****e that need to be charged with murder.

liberalhunter Loc: Your mom's house

Keep up the stupid and see what happens next. Since you've stated Republicans and conservatives should be hung, firing squad, dismantled along with anyone that has normal values.... not the insanity your addled mind wants... being lucid now and then might help, don't care......... your threats and willingness to lie, c***t and steal has brought you to a reality you created.......... you, you and your people ....... you created the threats and actions you now fear.............. and rightfully so,we're coming.... look around you, it has begun and ain't crap you and your keyboard can do to stop what awaits you....... enjoy.

LogicallyRight Loc: Chicago

***J*** 6 was by definition domestic terrorism — but here's why no one is being charged with it
>>>The real fomenters of the r**t might have been FBI plants.

dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA

You realize you may as well be talking to a brick wall.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

American Vet

Then why haven't hundreds, if not thousands, been charged with treason/s******n/i**********n?

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Did you not read the OP

American Vet

Indeed: But that doesn't answer the question. It simple points out some differing opinions. Opinions are not law.

So: Then why haven't hundreds, if not thousands, been charged with treason/s******n/i**********n? (You may consider it a rhetorical question designed to make a person think).

Justice101

My following post is a fair and valid answer to the original post and to your post as well.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/26/law-firms-that-raced-to-defend-terrorists-in-gitmo-leave-j6-defendants-out-to-dry/