A quote worth remembering
Jan 8, 2022 14:45:06 #
whitnebrat
Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
"Plato says that from the exaggerated license which people call
liberty, tyrants spring up as from a root ... and that at last such
liberty reduces a nation to s***ery. Everything in excess is changed into
its opposite. ... For out of such an ungoverned populace one is
usually chosen as leader ... someone bold and unscrupulous ...
who curries favor with the people by giving them other men’s
property. To such a man, because he has much reason for fear if he remains
a private citizen, the protection of public office is given, and continually
renewed. He surrounds himself with an armed guard, and emerges
as a tyrant over the very people who raised him to power."
Cicero --- first century B.C
liberty, tyrants spring up as from a root ... and that at last such
liberty reduces a nation to s***ery. Everything in excess is changed into
its opposite. ... For out of such an ungoverned populace one is
usually chosen as leader ... someone bold and unscrupulous ...
who curries favor with the people by giving them other men’s
property. To such a man, because he has much reason for fear if he remains
a private citizen, the protection of public office is given, and continually
renewed. He surrounds himself with an armed guard, and emerges
as a tyrant over the very people who raised him to power."
Cicero --- first century B.C
Jan 8, 2022 14:51:09 #
whitnebrat wrote:
"Plato says that from the exaggerated license... (show quote)
I’ve never forgiven Augustus Caesar for having Marcus Tullius Cicero murdered.
Jan 8, 2022 16:24:06 #
Ronald Hatt
Loc: Lansing, Mich
whitnebrat wrote:
"Plato says that from the exaggerated license... (show quote)
My...My....How history repeats itself?
Too bad the "youth" of today, don't care about the classics of the past.....They could evade so much misery?
Jan 8, 2022 17:49:29 #
whitnebrat
Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
Ronald Hatt wrote:
My...My....How history repeats itself?
Too bad the "youth" of today, don't care about the classics of the past.....They could evade so much misery?
Too bad the "youth" of today, don't care about the classics of the past.....They could evade so much misery?
It would seem that the impetuousness of youth and that feeling of immortality leads to a certain sense of certainty in their concepts and ideas ... and of course us old fogies are full of manure and don't understand the youth of today. It's my recollection that most r**ts/revolutions start with the colleges & university population, which makes this particular one somewhat different ... in that it was a reconstituted grievance movement from the post-Reconstruction era that has never gone away (think w***e s*******y).
Yes, history does repeat itself. That quote is just one of any number of similar ones that populate history if one cares enough to read it (and maybe, just maybe learn from it.)
"Those that ignore history are doomed to repeat it." George Santayana
Jan 9, 2022 02:58:07 #
whitnebrat wrote:
"Plato says that from the exaggerated license which people call
liberty, tyrants spring up as from a root ... and that at last such
liberty reduces a nation to s***ery.
liberty, tyrants spring up as from a root ... and that at last such
liberty reduces a nation to s***ery.
Liberty unconstrained is merely anarchy masquerading as a pig on lipstick...
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Everything in excess is changed into
its opposite. ... For out of such an ungoverned populace one is
usually chosen as leader ... someone bold and unscrupulous ...
who curries favor with the people by giving them other men’s property.
its opposite. ... For out of such an ungoverned populace one is
usually chosen as leader ... someone bold and unscrupulous ...
who curries favor with the people by giving them other men’s property.
Need not be a single individual...
People do love the idea of taking from others...
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To such a man, because he has much reason for fear if he remains
a private citizen, the protection of public office is given, and continually
renewed. He surrounds himself with an armed guard, and emerges
as a tyrant over the very people who raised him to power."
Cicero --- first century B.C
a private citizen, the protection of public office is given, and continually
renewed. He surrounds himself with an armed guard, and emerges
as a tyrant over the very people who raised him to power."
Cicero --- first century B.C
Makes one wonder about some of these politicians who have been in office since before I was born..
Jan 9, 2022 03:00:13 #
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Makes one wonder about some of these politicians who have been in office since before I was born..
Pelosi and Schmuck Schumer have been there since before Cicero was born.
Jan 9, 2022 03:02:35 #
Smedley_buzk**l wrote:
Pelosi and Schmuck Schumer have been there since before Cicero was born.
She hasn't aged well
Jan 9, 2022 09:20:02 #
whitnebrat wrote:
"Plato says that from the exaggerated license... (show quote)
Some things never change !
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